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archangel22
post Jul 2 2017, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Jul 2 2017, 03:26 PM)
This news does not bode well for investors of bitcoin.
I still have some bitcoin, and am really at a loss of what to do with them.
If the hard fork happens and I am just holding the coins, it might be years before they come back to this price level again.
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Archangel, what are your thoughts on this?
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Prob best just hodl Btc.
No one can control Bitcoin nor guess whats going to happen. I personally prefer it that way. Bitcoin black swan. biggrin.gif

Bitcoin is still tiny. If its gonna take over gold, and money market, it better survive this. Unchanged, with meaningful, tested upgrade.

The words Im getting is that Bitmain can hardfork anytime, theyve been saying it since BitcoinUnlimited.

Now ever since theres a conference Future of Bitcoin, everyones furious after the con artist Craig wright keep saying he's satoshi, bad-mouthing Segwit and Blockstream.
Even the bigblockers hate him. For the first time, Core and BU supporters might have something in common. laugh.gif
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post Jul 2 2017, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(archangel22 @ Jul 2 2017, 07:52 PM)
Prob best just hodl Btc.
No one can control Bitcoin nor guess whats going to happen. I personally prefer it that way. Bitcoin black swan. biggrin.gif

Bitcoin is still tiny. If its gonna take over gold, and money market, it better survive this. Unchanged, with meaningful, tested upgrade.

The words Im getting is that Bitmain can hardfork anytime, theyve been saying it since BitcoinUnlimited.

Now ever since theres a conference Future of Bitcoin, everyones furious after the con artist Craig wright keep saying he's satoshi, bad-mouthing Segwit and Blockstream.
Even the bigblockers hate him. For the first time, Core and BU supporters might have something in common. laugh.gif
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Fiund this link
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#3m
With this stat, you can argue:
1) hodlers are just gonna hodl.
2) if we're still seeing mass adoption, this means last congestion was likely intended. Someone or group of people spammed the network and push narratives that Bitcoin should compete with Paypal/Visa/MC.

Indeed there are many factions in Bitcoin. I personally believe we all want good things abt Bitcoin, but human acts based on each own self interest. Even within Bitcoin Core itself.

If this is any help to make your own decision whether to hodl or cash in: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Segwit_support

In Bitcoin, everyone is free to enter or exit. If you are required to stay, that defeats the purpose of Bitcoin existence. If Bitcoin value goes to 0 after 1 Aug, I wont make the same mistake.

And no, not gonna buy Bitmain hardforked coin.
Lol.. I'd rather have current Bitcoin, even without segwit.
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post Jul 3 2017, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Jul 3 2017, 09:37 AM)
ok, im missing out on the btc news. what is this btc fork means to us? can i cont to keep my btc in exchange ? been busy over the weekend on my job.
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https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitcoi...g-bip-148-uasf/


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archangel22
post Jul 3 2017, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 3 2017, 10:34 PM)
Huh? Bitcoin rally 8%!??!!

Could it be due to this? Breaking: South Korea is Preparing to Regulate and Legalize Bitcoin : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/south-korea...galize-bitcoin/
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Not only that.
1) unconf txn less than 10k https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
2) mempool declined 100mb to 3mb in weeks
3) fees abt $1 and confirmed within minutes
Various sources on twitter

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post Jul 4 2017, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(dc_talkz @ Jul 4 2017, 12:28 AM)
Aren't that supposed to be worrying news instead? Seems to me like people are slowly limiting their transactions ready for the fork? I don't know, just a thought
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Mybe I missed something. Why do you think its a bad thing that pple limit their transactions?
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post Jul 4 2017, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jul 4 2017, 09:45 AM)
Whats wrong with Luno that I dont know? the UI and UX from Luno is nicer as compare to other wallet I used. And it supports MYR to BTC
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I understand the confusion. Trust is tricky.

If you have 1kg of "gold", and youre sensing theres a storm coming (global/financial/humanity crisis), everybody taking care of their own self interest.

Would you rather keep your gold in your "safety box" at your home, or put it in a bank that offer "custody service"? The proper question is, do you trust the bank to keep your gold? Only you can answer.

My answer? laugh.gif Legend says, in crypto, be your own bank.
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post Jul 4 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Secruoser @ Jul 4 2017, 11:26 AM)
Hahaha... so do people use the loophole and transfer RM49k instead?

This is why the Greek guy said cryptocurrency is about liberty. My money, I transfer how much, I sukak lar! Why authority needs to busy body asks me? biggrin.gif
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It is indeed about liberty. Individual sovereignty, censorship resistance.
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post Jul 4 2017, 12:22 PM

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'Glitch' they said, 'not a crash' they said,

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Finance sites erroneously show Amazon, Apple, other stocks crashing
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/finance-s...hing-2017-07-03

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post Jul 4 2017, 07:24 PM

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Fourth largest Bitcoin exchange Bithumb, hacked for billions of Won

https://bravenewcoin.com/news/fourth-larges...illions-of-won/

One victim claims that the attacker posed as an executive at Bithumb and phoned to say that he was "suspicious of a foreign hacking transaction,” and instructed his victim to give him an “identification number written on the letter from Bithumb.” The number in question was the victim’s One-Time Password, (OTP) which granted the attacker immediate access to ten million won, worth about US$8,700
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post Jul 4 2017, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Chelsea-Fan @ Jul 4 2017, 09:24 PM)
Taken from a chat group.

Beware of EOS token.

"EOS TOKENS HAVE NO RIGHTS, USES OR ATTRIBUTES. The EOS Tokens do not have any rights, uses, purpose, attributes, functionalities or features, express or implied, including, without limitation, any uses, purpose, attributes, functionalities or features on the EOS Platform. Company does not guarantee and is not representing in any way to Buyer that the EOS Tokens have any rights, uses, purpose, attributes, functionalities or features.

NOT A PURCHASE OF EOS PLATFORM TOKENS. EOS Tokens purchased under this Agreement are not tokens on the EOS Platform. Buyer acknowledges, understands and agrees that Buyer should not expect and there is no guarantee or representation made by Company that Buyer will receive any other product, service, rights, attributes, functionalities, features or assets of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, any cryptographic tokens or digital assets now or in the future whether through receipt, exchange, conversion, redemption or otherwise.
• PURCHASE OF EOS TOKENS ARE NON-REFUNDABLE AND PURCHASES
• CANNOT BE CANCELLED. BUYER MAY LOSE ALL AMOUNTS PAID.
• EOS TOKENS MAY HAVE NO VALUE.
• COMPANY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REFUSE OR CANCEL EOS TOKEN
• REQUESTS AT ANY TIME IN ITS SOLE DISCRETION."
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Oh look!

USDT got similar T&C lol
What could go wrong.

https://tether.to/legal/

LICENCE TO USE THE SITE: If you comply with these Terms of Service, we grant you the limited right to use the Site and the Services. The right to use the Site and the Services is a non-exclusive, non-transferable, revocable, limited licence, and it is subject to the limitations and obligations in these Terms of Service. Nothing in these Terms of Service gives you any licence (other than as set out in this paragraph), right, title, or ownership of, in, or to the Site or any of the Services.

PURCHASE AND REDEMPTION OF TETHERS: The Site is an environment for the purchase and redemption of Tethers. Once you have Tethers, you can trade them, keep them, or use them to pay persons that will accept your Tethers. However, Tethers are not money and are not monetary instruments. They are also not stored value or currency.
There is no contractual right or other right or legal claim against us to redeem or exchange your Tethers for money. We do not guarantee any right of redemption or exchange of Tethers by us for money. There is no guarantee against losses when you buy, trade, sell, or redeem Tethers.
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post Jul 7 2017, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(yk8 @ Jul 7 2017, 06:31 PM)
ethereum classic comeout from spit chain , there is no developer continue update this currency anymore , is like dead lane , maybe will rise , but not much
mainly playing ethereum and ethereum classic player is korea and china
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethere...lassic/#markets
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ETC is the original chain. ETH is the forked one.
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post Jul 8 2017, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Jul 7 2017, 10:15 PM)
Errr. confused.gif  He is telling what really happen.the split and all
The /r/bitcoin politic and hate stuff yeah just take it with pinch of salt.
But its really happen from my neutral point of view because i hve btc and eth and lurking in both sub.
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The politics in Bitoin is all about those who think Bitcoin exists to increase freedom vs those who think it exists to make them rich.
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post Jul 9 2017, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2017, 01:38 AM)
U already bought his report?

Quite expensive his alta report is 100usd every month...

Rm425 every month to burn...

Unless u share the cost among us la 😅
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$100?? blink.gif

Last time I remember each report is like $15
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post Jul 9 2017, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 9 2017, 03:17 PM)
dont share freely. the reports is expensive. share it with the ones who willing to share the buying cost with you.  biggrin.gif

what for giving good stuff for free to people who wont appreciate it
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I remember Clif made an announcement to youtubers/blogger not to give audiences extensive review about his reports, close to plagiarizing.

Imo the logic is that since his technology to read linguistics on the internet, gets more popular and cheap, people will start using his reports for decision-making basically for anything. He will end up getting linguistics about his own report. Trying to predict but eventually a self-fulfilling prophecy. rclxub.gif

Maybe it's a good thing he increased the price. And I think it's worth it anyway.

So sharing in public for free, does affect Clif's future report, quite possibly in a bad way.
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post Jul 11 2017, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Jul 11 2017, 03:28 PM)
Miners still need to predict the medium/long term prospect of the coins, is this not correlated?
Im thinking of putting about 10%-20% into buying things to hold

Buy the way if I want to buy some TenX (Pay),
I can easily to it in bittrex? (dont have acc)
cant find it on poloniex?
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You can hedge by mining Bitcoin again, but with Segwit via BIP141 or 148.

This message is for all miners out there. No one indeed can predict future, but theres a good opportunity when crisis like this happen, with Bitcoin.

If you currently mining altcoins in which the value has dropped and facing uncertain future, Bitcoin with Segwit is one way for you to at least hedge your hardware investment. Pay bills etc.

Mine on your own or join pools like Slushpool (founder is one who design Trezor).

For users and investors, same strategy is to hodl. You dont want to put your Bitcoins in exchange as you wont know which chain each exchange will follow in case of split. Even though they announce supporting any particular BIP, decision may change anytime, without notifying users.

For maximum protection against Bitcoin chain split:
1) Run your own full validating Bitcoin node. Don't trust. Verify.

And no, youre not gonna compete with Bitmain, as the announced they will be mining their own altcoin via hardfork. Mine Bitcoin with Segwit and run your own full node to keep Bitcoin decentralized, censorship-resistant. Immutable.

I, for one, not gonna transact anything that's Bitmain related in case theres a split or hardfork. Segwit2x just forked today a week before full deployment. Not planning to put my coin on that chain. Im good with Core.

BIP148 - http://www.uasf.co/

Sekian.

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post Jul 11 2017, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 11 2017, 06:01 PM)
Segwit2x just forked meaning the chain is already split?

Any idea what will happen to altcoins that is paired to BTC if BTC really hardforked?  hmm.gif
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Nope. They were testing Segwit2x very own testnet.
Mining seems to be stuck https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6...erably_forks_a/

A 'big if' ever Bitcoin is to split/hardfork, you should be worried if you hold any coins on top of BTC eg. Omni. Even worse, crypto on top of Omni, USDT.
They may halt USDT withdrawals or exchange to fiat.


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post Jul 11 2017, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Jul 11 2017, 08:19 PM)
all home/hobbiest miner i know are all mining altcoin, its not as profitable to mine bitcoin on small scale.
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Just a suggestion.
Purely about incentive. Miners who mine altcoins wants to earn side income, cover the cost and profit. They were incentivized to mine by the recent bullruns.

But crypto is in bear market. Since "majority" of miners (aka Bitmain) dont want to mine Bitcoin with Segwit, perhaps it is the best chance to claim the prize. Get block rewards and earn txn fees. BIP141/148 could use small scale mining.


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post Jul 11 2017, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Secruoser @ Jul 11 2017, 09:57 PM)
With that kind of attitude, I won't be surprised if they just pack up their bags and leave after filling their pockets up.
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ICOs work like securities issued by the company, backed by full faith and confidence on the core devs.
Must be happy youngsters got hundreds of millions dollars in matter of hours. Cant remem which ICO but they do announce publicly that they will sell the crowdsale funding for fiat, in order to hedge the development for 3-5yrs. Public dump signal. doh.gif

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post Jul 12 2017, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(keldramon @ Jul 12 2017, 02:46 PM)
I think blockchain tech will inevitably be mainstream, just don't know which blockchain(s) will survive in the end just like the Internet during the dot com burst. It'll be the fundamental layer of reality itself, not just Web 3.0.

For the time being I think cryptocurrency as whole will have to bear the bear market until Bitcoin got their shit together, with several chain splitting possibilities down the line until early next year I think?

What's up with SegWit vs Segwit2X? From my understanding SegWit on 1st August is pretty much is a given, since both parties has reach to the same consensus as of now. So minimal splitting chances on 1st of  August. The issue is the SegWit2x part which due to activate around 3 months after SegWit activated(so around November?). Majority of miners are on SegWit2x, but core devs are not so split still may occur. Is that right or did I get that completely wrong?
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Segwit2x is not even close to a consensus. Its a backdoor meeting done by corporates who think their decisions are backed by the actual users. Their business isnt moving bcse malicious miners dont want to adapt a safe, tested softfork.

For 3.5yrs Bitmain and big blockers halt Segwit adoption and now they say ok with Segwit but have to infuse with a contentious hardfork?

This isnt abt scalability alrdy. This is abt control of Bitcoin protocol. Simply increase blocksize will further centralize the network, setting bad precendent, and in no way represent values and principles of Bitcoin.

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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Jul 12 2017, 07:38 PM)
How would big blocksize cause network centralisation?
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I'll just simplify as the debate is still ongoing.

Big block means more bandwidth, bigger blockchain. I personally dont want bitcoin only run by corporate or data centers. The value proposition with Segwit&Uasf is that so anyone can run/fully validate txn with cheap PC as full node. Further decentralize the network. Like running Bitcoin on your cheap Android phone. The direction shld be in that way.

And its not necessarily big block.
If Bitcoin started as 100MB on the genesis block then theres no problem or maybe a different problem.
My point is that the 'change' within Bitcoin. Does gold fork?




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