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post Jul 5 2018, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 5 2018, 12:55 PM)
is it possible to lose faith after regeneration? ie continue sin wilfully
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Yes, one will eventually lose one's faith if one continues to remain in sin preferring the darkness than to light, like the unrepentant who will die in their sins.

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post Jul 8 2018, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Haledoch @ Jul 8 2018, 03:39 PM)
But there are two commandments in which we are told to obey,

Matthew 22
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’

Jesus made it clear, they are two different commands. What you are saying about loving each other only fulfills the second command. It doesn't fulfill the first and the greatest command. Why I say that because of this verse,

Luke 14
26 If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

It basically made a distinction between loving God and loving human, in which we must prioritize God over anything else. Abraham was told to sacrifice Isaac his son for God's sake. And he chose God over his son.

If we cannot reach the level of decision like Abraham, then our faith is not really faith. The truth is we don't have faith. Do you agree? Knowing this, does loving each other then suffice to meet God's standard of loving Him?

p.s. can we make it less tldr?
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I am sorry but loving your neighbour does not equate to loving God by His standard, likewise with the second greatest commandment cannot be equal to the Greatest Commandment.

By the way, what is tldr ?

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post Jul 9 2018, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Haledoch @ Jul 9 2018, 07:36 AM)
You get it? Nice. OK this is an example: The catholic church is correct when they reject homosexual people into their church. Am I right? There are other protestant churches that have begun to accept LGBT communities into their place of worships because of their distorted view on the love to each other concept. Even some priests (man + man) are legalised to marry. They thought to love each other must also be the greatest command and fullfill the commandment to love God. This is wrong. If we love God we must be ready to go against people who practice abominations but not to the point that we started to hate them. So by doing that we adhere to both commands of God.

tldr means too long didn't read. Basically I am suggesting we should keep our opinion short but still informative enough.
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Yes you were correct but that was in the past. A similar question was posed to Pope Francis (the current pope) and his reply was ”Who am I to judge?", which is strikingly similar if not almost plagiarised from Jesus himself "My friend, who gave me the right to judge ..."

As for the LBGT, I suspect that there are a lot of undercurrent within the Catholic Church too on many other matters as well.

Surely you remember the Scriptures which says in the begining the Creator created people both male and female. And God said, 'For this reason a man will leave his parents and unite with his wife ....' That's explicit enough and there are other verses but KISS (Keep It Short & Simple).

You are right to mention about their distorted views and their thoughts about the Greatest Commandment having equal standing with love for neighbour, is obviously incorrect too.

The official stand of the Catholic Church on LBGT is to hate the sin but love the sinner, which is same with your following text as well. wink.gif

The contentious issue is how do we move from here onwards to resolving the issue, someone has to play to bad cop but must have a pleasant disposition etc so that everything sounds nice.

What's required is someone born of the Spirit, to call a spade a spade ♠️, like the prophets of old and pay the price for no prophet is welcome is in own home ? How many is willing to do just that risking it to do God's will ?

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post Jul 10 2018, 06:19 AM

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post Jul 10 2018, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 10 2018, 08:27 AM)
Did Jesus say that?  HMmmmmmmm
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Of course, He said that, it's in the Holy Bible. Don't tell me that I am expected to quote that verse where exactly it's in the Bible.

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post Jul 10 2018, 09:14 AM

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Here's the great divide where finally it all comes to this, to be able to be born of the Holy Spirit.....

"I am telling you the truth, no one can see the Kingdom of God, unless he is born again." ~ Jesus Christ


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post Jul 10 2018, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 10 2018, 09:17 AM)
Yes Please

Please quote the verses and passage.
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"My friend, who gave me the right to judge ....." ~ Jesus Christ [Luke 12:14]

This is my first and my last referencing online, i thought Christians must know their Holy Scrotuyres by heart ❤️.

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