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post Oct 19 2017, 09:47 AM

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Good morning...
May I ask? If the questions are not appropriate for discussion, I beg TS to delete them.
I am not Christian but I did read some passages of Bible for self interest.

1) Who documented the book of Genesis since humans only created on day 6? How about day 1 to 5 since there is no human that have witness the incident and documented the history.

2) In the Bible, God said the earth, plants, living things, animals, humans etc were created in the course of just 6 days. However, scientists has proven that dinosaurs have roam the earth for at least 200k years before human ever existed. So which is which?

On the other hand, those archaeologists also have evidence that humans evolved from apes and it take thousands if not million of years of evolution before we become real humans today. But the Bible stated that Adam and Eve were just created by God's hand... I am confuse which is which...
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post Oct 19 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(thomasthai @ Oct 19 2017, 10:07 AM)

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LoL, I do not mean creation. I mean evolution.
Why did the Bible says it's a creation and takes just 6 days while natural beings are evoluted through million of years with scientific proof.

And that day I got one Christian friend told me got my Bible sentence says "Water turns into wine" and "Egypt river (it not mistaken, is Nile) turns into blood". I mean Science already proven this can't be done.
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post Oct 20 2017, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Oct 20 2017, 09:39 AM)
I think the word 'day' used in Genesis means 24 hours as per our time. Remember how it was set as a rule that people weren't allowed to work on seventh day?

However, science tells us that our world existed for 4.5 billion years. Hmm....

Could God speed up the process? Otherwise, there wouldn't be a lot of trees, fruits and plants on the sixth day when God created human because we all know it takes time for them to grow? tongue.gif
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And I also wonder why there is no events documented on other countries like Malaysia, Australia, China, Japan, USA... etc etc?
What happened to the peoples in these countries during Jesus era? Why Jesus didn't go to other parts of the world preaching?
The whole Bible from A to Z only documented events happening on Egypt, Israel and Jordan. Even miracles only happened in these countries. How about other parts of the world?
I am not debating the Bible is true or not but I am just curious.

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post Oct 22 2017, 10:00 AM

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Good morning, I just know yesterday that...
Why need to spilt into methodist and protestant?
Why can't just have one type of Christian?
So, which type am I now?

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post Oct 29 2017, 12:16 AM

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Got an interesting question come across my mind.
If a person is brain death, it is consider dead in Christianity? It is consider death in malaysia law, how about Christianity?
Can we just terminate the life of a brain death person?

Can't find any answers in Google.
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post Dec 11 2017, 09:25 AM

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So do you guys support Jerusalem is the official capital for Israel 🇮🇱?
I support, really thanks Trump for this.
As Christians, we must safeguard our holy land for Christ. Peace ✌️
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post Dec 13 2017, 06:24 PM

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anyone here intended to become a full time pastor or church staff to serve God?
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post Dec 13 2017, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 13 2017, 05:38 PM)
It always has been the capital for Israel. If there are opposition, they will have to contend against God.

In theological POV, the devil doesn't want this because he's trying to stop Christ return.
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Fully agreed bro.. Thumbs-up thumbup.gif
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post Dec 19 2017, 07:03 PM

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Wow, you guys are really awesome... and have strong faith.
I am still thinking whether to baptise or not.
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post Feb 23 2018, 12:42 PM

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That's why I seldom read the Bible but I did believe in God... no one told me about this when I accepted Christ until recently someone share with me this.
There's are tons and tons more of contradictions and here's I share a few.

Bible Inconsistencies - Bible Contradictions

John 1:1, 10:30 Jesus and God are one.
John 14:28 God is greater than Jesus.

John 3:17, 8:15, 12:47 Jesus does not judge.
John 5:22, 5:27-30, 9:39, Acts 10:42, 2nd Corinthians 5:10 Jesus does judge.

Exodus 34:6-7, Joshua 24:19, 1 Chronicles 16:34 God is faithful, holy and good.
Isaiah 45:6-7, Amos 3:6 God is responsible for evil.

Matthew 5:22 Anger by itself is a sin.
Ephesians 4:26 Anger is not necessarily a sin.

Matthew 5:17-19, Luke 16:17 Jesus did not come to abolish the law.
Ephesians 2:13-15, Hebrews 7:18-19 Jesus did abolish the law.

Matthew 1:16 Jacob was Joseph's father.
Luke 3:23 Heli was Joseph's father.

Joshua 11:20 God shows no mercy to some.
Luke 6:36, James 5:11 God is merciful.

Mathew 8:16, Luke 4:40 Jesus healed all that were sick.
Mark 1:32-34 Jesus healed many (but not all).
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post Feb 23 2018, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 23 2018, 04:29 PM)
Timeline and overall sequences of the Bible and understanding the Bible from overall perspective..will help you to see there is no contradiction.

For example

Matthew 5:17-19, Luke 16:17 Jesus did not come to abolish the law.
Ephesians 2:13-15, Hebrews 7:18-19 Jesus did abolish the law.
In Matthew 5, Christ said in the same passage, HE came to fulfill the requirement of the Law..hence why the Law cannot be abolished (at that point in time). If it's abolished, how can He fulfilled it?
In Ephesians 2, After Christ Ascension,  He became the fulfillment of the Law...and He is the End of the Law for all who believe in Him, hence why the Law no longer has any imputation to the believers. Hence why it is abolished for the believers but at the same time still stand valid against unbelievers.

See the sequence.
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actually what makes you trust the Bible so much?
all these years, I only believe in God in my heart but I don't read the Bible because I believe the Bible is the past... just history... we should focus on the future,
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post Feb 26 2018, 10:04 AM

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Human greatest mystery... The age of Jesus from 12 to 30 is totally unaccounted for... not recorded in the Bible.

This sometimes makes me lost faith in Christ.

Of course some of you may argue that it is totally not important and irrelevant... But too bad I do not buy into that. Otherwise, National Geographic will not waste time to produce this video.

Don't get me wrong. please....Since He is such an important person we trust all the time, I believe every events happening within Him must be well documented like other famous persons around the world.

Don't blame me as well... admin can delete this post too if you feel that offended you. I trust a lot on facts and evidence and recently I lost a lot of faith in Christianity, maybe I am a science and tech guy.

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post Feb 26 2018, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Tariq_H @ Feb 26 2018, 11:36 AM)
Jesus never claim him self as god
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LoL, are you sure.. hmmm
Then why did you worship Jesus, ask Jesus for healing and pray to Jesus?
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post Feb 27 2018, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 27 2018, 11:34 AM)
That is what happen when one allow riches to control the person's character......then again there are prosperous believers who are not controlled by money but by God.

I think it's important to give a fair view on this and not allow stereotypes to come in.
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how do you know if riches control a person or otherwise?

as far as I know, the only time when riches control a person is when the person gamble, committing crime for the sole purpose of money.

Other than that, there is absolutely nothing wrong for one to pursue riches. We are living in a democratic country anyway... just remember to give back some to God as offering whenever you attend church.
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post Feb 27 2018, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Feb 27 2018, 12:01 PM)
May I know why you still choose to believe in God if you have doubt in Bible?

Surprisingly, I've encountered quite a number of followers from different religions think the way you do.
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First of all, I am a very very very science and technology kind of person. I love to read a lot of documentaries and do a lot of research.

I personally feel that God is in existence.

Before that, I did a lot of research... one of them is the Big Bang... if you analyse this way, for the Big Bang to occur of this scale, only God can make this happen. Imagine until today, there are millions of stars still bursting away from each other following the Big Bang billions of years ago.

I have a good life now, everyone in my family is healthy and happy... I don't take these for granted.. and I believe all these are a result of God's blessings and protection.

Then of course miracles... I watched a lot of youtube video seeing how the sick with stage 4 cancer just healed overnight... keyword is "overnight"

On the other hand, the Bible. I always has doubts on how true is the Bible.
Who wrote the book of Genesis when there is no human before Genesis 1:1 ? Likewise for 10 commandments... is it really true? i know is God's commands... but how come it can be in documentary form? and many others.
The great flood (Naoh's case), many scientists couldn't find evidence that earth was once heavily flooded.
If Adam and Eve are the first male and females respectively... then how about Cain's wife? Where did Cain's wife came from???
Of course, there are many dozens of inconsistencies and contradictions around the Bible too... I posted them a few days ago in this thread.

and finally, I feel that the Bible is also too boring to be frank...
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post Feb 27 2018, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Feb 27 2018, 12:49 PM)
Then why do you still choose to believe in Christianity? Or are you?
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Didn't I have answer your questions? of course, I am a christian just that I seldom read the bible.

QUOTE(yeeck @ Feb 27 2018, 12:51 PM)
You are not the first person in history to ask these questions.  Seek and you shall find. biggrin.gif
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so far unable to find any concrete or conclusive answers. if you have any, you can share with us here.
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post Mar 4 2018, 12:38 PM

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Asking atheist to believe in christ is damn more difficult to ask a Buddhist to believe in christ..

They will ask all kinds of difficult or funny questions that even some Christians finding it hard to answer.

During CNY, we chat for 4 hours among our friends which also includes a bunch of atheist and my Christian friends all look clueless..

True story. Not easy to deal with atheist.
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post Mar 4 2018, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Hoka Nobasho @ Mar 4 2018, 12:42 PM)
I'm sorry to hear what you've gone through. Should you are genuinely curious, you can ask atheists any questions without any reservations at the LYN Official Atheist & Agnostic thread here:https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3241500
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Thanks for the heads up...
It's still an interesting discussion and fellowship in which some of us have not met for at least 15 years.
Some of their questions still lingering my mind now tho..

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