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LYN Christian Fellowship V13 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.
LYN Christian Fellowship V13 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.
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Aug 12 2017, 04:45 PM
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Good to see Bro Unknown warrior is still alive and kicking
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Aug 15 2017, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(techjunkie @ Aug 15 2017, 10:01 AM) Thanks for the reply. I always think of it this wayI was also thinking along the line of wht you hv said...guess I just have to manage my time more effectively. If u can date thr girl u like or need to see ur wife everyday What more of God who loves us and only requires one to 2 hours of our lives per week. He deserves our full attention during Church. No phones no talk whatsoever. |
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Aug 16 2017, 07:34 PM
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I am not very fond of the charismatic movement, but I am not against it either.
I have heard about the real tongue gift and read stories about them, of course, being Catholic I searched the catholic version of tongues. There are a few examples of saints who spoke in other nation's languages without them knowing, while preaching to them. There were instances of priests spoke in Bahasa but never had any knowledge of Bahasa, while praying for malaysians in UK and Ireland. I believed those are real. However there is also the version where the lead (pastor etc) started shimbala kala shumbi malakala shumbilakala and everyone besides just started mumbo jumbo the same way. Any new friends who just joined then started to mumbo jumbo Was it due to peer pressure? To feel belonged in the group? or is it really speaking in tongues? I never ask. I do not think I am in the position to blasphemy against Holy Spirit. I am also happy my friends feel closer to God with it than without it. The gifts are meant for increasing one's faith...be it speak in tongues, prophesy, etc. I however disagree with some churches pastor who repeatedly ask the congregation to speak in tongues, desire tongues etc rather than increase his or her faith. would you like me to come to your house for a visit and say "Where is my gift, J?" wouldnt you respond "IM YOUR GIFT!" This post has been edited by Jedi: Aug 16 2017, 07:36 PM |
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Aug 24 2017, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(bismikaallahuma @ Aug 24 2017, 11:04 AM) 1) Are you a Christian? Yes or no? First of all, u may have been taught what u listed here from your ulama or whosoever. Thats just my take, based on my conversations with muslim friends, but if it is not as such, my apologies.2) Do you truly believe? Yes or no? 3) Have you been baptized? Yes or no? 4) Mark 16:16-18 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; (a) In my name shall they cast out devils; (b) they shall speak with new tongues; ©They shall take up serpents; and (d) if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; (e) they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." 5) Once again. Have you (a) been baptized and (b) do you believe? a) If NOT then you WILL NOT BE SAVED BUT DAMNED. b) If a Christian has been baptized and believes then they should exhibit the "signs" mentioned above, such as being able to drink any deadly poison (such as battery acid, etc.) and not be harmed. How about the other signs? Can all believing and baptized Christians lay their hand on any randomly selected terminally ill cancer patient or paraplegic and have him rise completely cured? Does this not require that the Christian world be completely free of all illness, doctors, and hospitals? According to this verse, should not all believing, baptized, Christians be able to do this if they truly believe are to be saved? If a Christian does not exhibit these signs, then does this not prove that they do not believe, and thus will not be saved but damned? 6) Go back to (1). The bible is a book where u cant pick a single line and literally use it to debate just so with people. It has to be read in the whole context. Yes, anyone who has listened to the Word of God and experienced the love of God will be damned if they did not baptise into Christ (but the word baptism is as what Unknown Warrior said) Jesus also said, Follow Him. As long as anyone has love, he will be saved. QUOTE The Judgment of the Nations Any muslim, hindhu, buddhist, or caveman has every chance to enter the Kingdom of God because they have love, even if they never heard the Word of God.31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, 33 and he will put the sheep at his right hand and the goats at the left. 34 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; 35 for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? 38 And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? 39 And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ 40 And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family,[a] you did it to me.’ 41 Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Of course, you can stand in front of Jesus and say: I wish not to enter it, but to go to hell. God will not force you. There will be people who are kind etc but enter damnation, because they chose to reject life with Christ, just as a music lover who appreciates rap rejects serene, pop. This post has been edited by Jedi: Aug 24 2017, 08:00 PM |
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Mar 18 2018, 09:33 PM
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Many years after, still debating about faith works grace salvation.
Yummy. Just that this time it isn't me. I still maintain my stance. Salvation is by grace through faith. However one cannot disregard fruits (not works) Tree without fruits will be cut off and thrown to fire. Becoming a Christian is the start, not the end of pathway to heaven. |
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Mar 18 2018, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Mar 12 2018, 06:15 PM) Anyway. For a Catholic, they probably have ready made answers for you for every "concern" that you have.. It probably does not make sense but then when you point out their fallacies they have another answer for that. They are probably the master of "answering" questions so why bother? This is what we call apologetic discussion. QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 12 2018, 08:56 PM) I know debating with yeeck will not change his traditional heart. Don't worry. Everybody is catholic in heaven. No more Denlinger!!! Love is love, it does not matter about race. Just don't marry Catholics. kidding yo.. We just have to wait till hour of our death and ull experience the fullness of the truth. This post has been edited by Jedi: Mar 18 2018, 09:39 PM |
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Mar 20 2018, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Mar 19 2018, 06:36 PM) Well. Problem is. Bad tree bears bad fruit. Are you implying that someone who is rooted in Christ is a bad tree. I m telling that Luke 13:9 and Matthew 7:19 Jesus forewarned so. U can be a Christian. Everybody can say I know and I believe in Jesus. But not everybody follows Him and listen to Him. MATTHEW 31 specifically explained this for when judgement day comes. Not everybody who calls Lord Lord will be saved. But the one who does Fathers will. There are lukewarm christian, devoted christian and those who tag by name but do not live out the life of Christ despite knowingly, persistently rejecting God and persistent in sin refusing His grace. Hence it is of course, not right when evangelise, there is no proper catechism/Alpha course or faith formation course but rather a random prayer and boom ur now a believer kind of preaching and during some feast with food, party which is what is happening alot. Those are not rooted and need alot of guidance. |
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