Well I believe He wishes so, that is recorded in the Bible.

I don't subscribe to the doctrine where suffering such as terminal health condition such as cancer is part of God's will. Not under the New Covenant anyway.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 5 2017, 01:14 PM

All the same whatever supernatural beings.

I accept they are God's servant as we are.

But to revere them in as in respect yes, but to revere as in to pray or worship....even Angels tells us not to.

Sorry I need to correct that, Bible never says , You shall not pray to angels. Only the Do not worship is recorded in Revelation 22:9.


Just that no where do I find a verse that tells me I can pray to the Angels but mostly prayer are pointed to either Jesus, God the father or the Holy Spirit.

Catholics may have a differing view on this though...you can ask them in their thread.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 5 2017, 02:34 PM

From Christian understanding when we pray to God, God will instruct His angels to carry out whatever God commanded them to do. This is quite consistent throughout the Bible.

Hence, I don't understand the need to pray to Angels when you can have access directly to God for prayer.

Never really bother if it's okay or not okay as there's no need to.

??? For me personally as Christian, I've always acknowledge God's angel existence, never doubted them.

Hi Asenav,

The way out of sin's behaviour will only work through what Christ did. May I give a truth perspective of what Christ did for you at the cross, I take that you're a Christian and have said the sinner's prayer.

If you have accepted Christ as your Saviour then you need to hold Christ as your Saviour, you also must hold the position, admitting cannot save yourself by your effort or performance. If you have accepted Christ's sacrifice at the cross, then you need to hold the position of No Condemnation, meaning, don't condemn yourself. (Romans 8:1) Hold that position by Faith, that you've been made righteous apart from your work/performance. Righteous state is given to you as a Gift of God's Grace, you don't get it by abstaining from exhibiting pride.

Why is this important? Because it will change your Life System..in a way the Holy Spirit can come in and help you to remove Pride. Until you hold the position of No Condemnation and that you've been made righteous by your Faith, the Holy Spirit cannot work in your life to remove that nature of the flesh.

This may not be immediate, you may go through a period of struggling but you need to confess and hold that position that you are cleaned (through Christ), that you are a Saint, you are righteous in Christ every single day. This is our Christian fight on daily basis.

That is why .....this entails living by Faith...because it takes Faith to believe in all of these. We are too prone to believe that our righteousness has a lot to do with what we do (example..you trying to stop your pride).

I hope you understand. If you need more detail explanation...I will oblige.

God Bless.

Jesus will come down to the level of your Faith.


Matthew 9:21 (NIV) - She said to herself, "If I only touch his cloak, I will be healed."

There are many voices out there who portray God as being hard to please, that God will not hear us because we have not been doing this or we are that.

The Bible however portray otherwise. God has given me this ministry to show Him in the right light and the reason why I'm still here today is because The Lord has been gracious and supportive according to his great Faithfulness. I just want to say God is nothing like how some people paint Him to be..Mean or being distance God. God is a Good God who is very very close, Like a Father to his own child. That is a very accurate truth of our God.

I want to bring you this Bible incident where there was woman who was suffering bleeding for 12 years. Can you imagine such a predicament, how the person will be like? This lady reasoned with herself...if only she can touch the edge of Jesus cloak, she will be healed. You must understand she isn't suppose to be there, according to God's Law, She is unclean and shouldn't be in public places. But this lady was desperately seeking for a cure which she must have been hearing this fame Christ can give. However she did this and only wanted the healing, she didn't really care for the Healer, hence she crept up to Him from behind. We have lepers who came to Jesus in the front to ask for healing.

When she did touched Jesus's garment, our God stop among the throng of crowd. And turn to her. For a brief moment, the Face of God met with this lady, it's as if time stop for this beautiful moment, face to face and the Lord told her..."“Take courage, daughter,” He said, “your faith has healed you.”

Our Lord Jesus did not respond "Do you really think a piece of cloth, my garment has healed you and not me as the Healer, and because you did not respect to ask me but you crept secretly, because of this I will not heal you". Our Lord responded to her..because she believe the cloth can healed her, God came down to her level of Faith and responded!

This is my Lord Jesus Christ.

God will come to you and your level of Faith...."According to your Faith, be it unto you".

So If you felt more comfortable in medicine and doctors, God can use medicine and doctors to heal you. And I hope as you get to know more about Jesus Christ, your Faith will increase as the days goes by.

God Bless.

Pray Everyday

Philippians 4:6 (NIV) - Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

Morning Friends.

We got to pray everyday because

1. Nature of our flesh
2. We an enemy who seeks to destroy us everyday


We need the Holy Spirit to keep the nature of our flesh in check. What I do is...only daily basis ask the HS to remove the desires of the flesh like hating your enemies, lust to pornography, bitterness and to help me to love my enemies and to be considerate of others. I normally pray asking the HS to fill me with his divine power and to help me walk in the spirit.

We need to pray to God for protection everyday because our spiritual enemies does not rest to take every opportunity to destroy us.

I don't know about you but I see no reason not to pray because of these 2 factors it is vital and crucial to see that we need God everyday.

the Bible says in Philippians 4:6 we need to pray in EVERY situation. We have situations in our life as Christians. The 2 above qualify.

Hope this spurs you to pray on daily basis. Seek Jesus everyday. God loves for you to come to Him in prayer. God loves for you to be in his presence everyday, He will not reject you.

Jesus loves you guys.

God Bless.



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 7 2017, 08:46 AM

Hi Nico, no I'm not a pastor, just a fellow servant of Christ who work in Church who has a heart and passion for God's word and ministry to the lost in this forum.

Yes anyone can believe, follow and be baptised to Christ Jesus.

Of course can. Before I was baptised, I see God responding to my prayers....I believe God accepted me on the basis of my Faith in Jesus Christ.

On theology study, from God's perspective, He accepted me based on his Mercy and Grace...I never really did anything to qualify just..my Faith simple believe in Christ.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 7 2017, 11:19 AM

As long as you've accept Christ as your God and Saviour, you're a full fledge Christian thus you qualify to take Holy Communion.

Water baptism is like......how should I put it?

It's like this. When you marry a person, you register with registrar of marriage, take an oath before the officer in charge of marriage with witnesses and sign the marriage document/cert.
That makes you legally married.

Water baptism is like throwing Wedding Dinner inviting everyone celebrating to show that you're married.

Whether you do a wedding dinner or not, you're legally married.

Not a very accurate example but..hope it gets the message across.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 7 2017, 02:30 PM

Trying to cut down on apologetics and focus more on Christ centred fellowshipping...... encouraging one another in the Lord.

Praise God! that's good. I'm hoping more people will join the fellowship, you're always welcome to.


Nothing much to say on this...just that I notice people who spend regular quiet time with God are tremendously blessed in the sense they will sense God's presence at time, and If we include reading of his word in the quiet time we get to understand his word more and more and I notice there's a difference ....versus the time we don't spend time with God....answers to prayers also follow in tandem. I don't mean to say there's no answers to prayer but there's seem to be more of increase of God's Grace in our life when we really connect with God 24/7...., just my general observation, don't want to make this into a doctrine because it's not.

This thread fellowship can never replace actual church organized fellowship such as Small Group / Home Fellowship or Cell Group. Those who have their own church should attend their church small group meetings. Please don't miss it.

What I mean is that, this fellowship thread is just a place for Christians who are in this forum to hang out, have simple/friendly fellowship, make new friends.

I think it's a good thing because there could be Christians who may not have attended Church for some time, Christians who have backslided....this thread can in a way give hope perhaps ...keeps the person connected with his faith (hopefully).

Well, the thing is, we all don't know the future, what God has in store, we may feel (like) it's hopeless for a partner.....but Life can be a surprises sometime, you'll never know.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 7 2017, 10:15 PM

This song minister to my life, if the door is good for me, God will open it for me when I pray.

...I think I will need to address this problem...hopefully will write something about it.

Anwar recalls reading the Bible six years in jail

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-years-in-jail/



KAJANG: Anwar Ibrahim passed the time, when he was jailed in 1999 for six years for corruption, by reading the Bible every other day besides the Quran.
He did not say what comparisons he made.
The Opposition Leader was speaking at a largely Christian gathering at a church in Kajang, the Holy Family Church, which was the venue for a joint Deepavali-Christmas celebration.
He was expressing his embarrassment that over-zealous religious authorities in Selangor had seized copies of Malay and Iban Bibles for carrying the Arabic term Allah, for God, and initially refusing to return them.

“I could assume some difficulty although I don’t, in prison, other than reading the Quran, I can assure you every other day I would also look at the Bible,” he said in speaking directly to Father George the parish priest at the Holy Family Church. “I can give you quotes but not with Father George present because he is the authority.”
Turning to John in the Bible, the de facto Pakatan Rakyat (PR) Chief recalled that “you shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free” in dismissing falsehoods, racism and fanaticism.

“Do not worry because there are voices from a small group, including from the Malay Muslim community in the current administration, which showed the attitude which equates Islam with arrogance,” he advised. “We do not represent that view and respecting the rights of other religion does not lower our confidence in our faith.”
Anwar stressed that Selangor Menteri Besar Azmin Ali deserves every praise for persuading the religious authorities to return the seized Bibles within weeks of taking office after advising the Sultan that the holy books belonged to the Christians.

Supporters of the palace, miffed that Azmin was getting all the praise, had been quoted as saying in the media that the Menteri Besar had in fact nothing to do with the return of the Bibles and that credit should go to the Sultan.

Anwar did not touch on media reports that Christians and non-Christians alike throughout the country are upset and furious that the seized copies of the Bible which were returned by the Selangor Sultan on November 14 have been desecrated and defaced with a warning. It’s not known who desecrated and defaced them.
The warning, which has since gone viral on social media, reads in English in the Malay and Iban Bibles: “Strictly for non-Muslims usage only and shall not be published or used in any part of the state of Selangor pursuant to section 9 (1) Non-Islamic Religions (Control of Propagation Amongst Muslims) Enactment 1988.”

The warning is also in Malay above the English version.

The Bibles were seized by Selangor religious authorities from the Bible Society of Malaysia (BSM) bookshop in Petaling Jaya earlier this year.
They were handed over on Nov 14 by the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) to the Association of Churches of Sarawak (ACS) in a ceremony witnessed by the Sultan of Selangor. Azmin was also present. Rev Archbishop Bolly Lapok is ACS chairman.

This is a repeat incident.
In Mar 2011, the Home Ministry similarly not only stamped but serialized 5,000 copies of the Bible which were seized on 20 Mar, 2009 after holding the consignment worth RM70,000 at Kuching Port for two years.

The BSM then took the view in a statement that the desecrated and defaced Bibles could no longer be sold but would be archived as “heritage for Christians in Malaysia”.
Sarawak, like Sabah, is a majority Christian. There’s no religion in the Constitutions of the two Borneo nations in line with the Malaysia Agreement 1963, and constitutional documents like the 20 Points and 18 Points.

BSM has issued a statement asking the religious authorities in Selangor to explain why their 351 copies of the Bibles in Malay and Iban which were seized by them in January were returned only after they were desecrated and defaced with a warning.

What is of God and what is of the devil

John 10:10 (NIV) - The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

Dear Friends,

Whenever you have your joy killed, your peace stolen, whenever you have your health stolen, detrimental in any way, when you have your financed short-changed by unscrupulous elements, understand that this is NOT of God.

Jesus came to give you abundant life, it will be in such a way that you're glad you have Life and that you're living and not only that God wants to give you the MUCH MORE of life.

I pray the Holy Spirit will give you divine revelation on this verse.

God Bless.

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The founder of Yayasan Generasi Gemilang shares his mission to restore dignity to the under-served communities, beginning with education.

http://my.asiatatler.com/society/bright-yo...nerasi-gemilang




When Daniel Tan was just four months old, his father left the family, leaving his mother to fend for three young children. He may have been too young to understand, but he grew up affected by his mother's struggles to make ends meet. At the age of 10, his mother remarried but it was hardly a few months after his stepsister was born that he, too, left them. Like many children from broken families, he entered his teenage years troubled and wayward.

Today, not a trace of bitterness emanates from this gregarious man, as he recounts the events that led to the formation of Yayasan Generasi Gemilang (GG), a foundation that educates under-served children and families. For someone without prior background in social work, seven steadfast years of running GG has saw to its expansion from Kuala Lumpur and Selangor, to the outskirts of Sarawak.

In the darkest hours of his youth, Daniel found solace at church. “These adults were my guardians, and despite my background they believed in my potential.” Daniel had started smoking, drinking, and mixing with bad company in his high school days.

“I couldn’t speak a word of English up to Form 2. I began picking up the language, and eventually I went on to get a diploma in IT,” shared Daniel, who thrived in the field. At the same time, Daniel served as a pastor and counselor for youths and families, as well as the urban poor.

His counselling work was a calling to fix a broken society. “I started with character building syllabuses for schools,” the founder and CEO of GG explained. “I wanted to make the moral subject fun. The key of this program was to impact students, on top of making learning fun and engaging.”

In 2010, Daniel registered GG as a society with a few likeminded friends, and not long after, scored a corporate partnership with Danone Dumex on their first CSR campaign.

GG was quickly approached for more corporate partnerships, including Prudential, whom GG created the PRUkasih campaign offering free financial protection plans for low-income families. “When we keep to our principals and values, our integrity and credibility, people pay attention and come to us,” Daniel reiterated his foundation’s goals.



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In summary, this guy understands what hardship is and wants to give a chance to the underprivileged for a better life.