I'm not into Calvinism or Armenian for that matter, all I know is..the power to live Godly life comes from the power of the Holy spirit. It comes by Grace, meaning, you don't force it out of God by your performance.

Neither can you will, exert or psyche yourself up by your own performance to overcome sin.

so I don't believe in all these demands or stern theological argument that you impose on people. It doesn't work.

(Being hard on people..too does not work but the opposite..it pushes ppl away)

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jun 28 2018, 09:33 AM

Wasn't referring to you and I agree with what you said here (not referring to Calvinism though) but on properly understanding the Bible through proper theological framework.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jun 28 2018, 10:27 AM

Actually I believe in Freewill...there's incident in the Bible that should put all arguments to rest.

I also know the verse where it talks about pre-destination and the elect but if we were to understand that God desires everyone comes to repentance and also He lives outside of time and understand from that POV, then perhaps we can begin to see how the phrase predestined and elect comes into place.

GRACE of God Saves you.

John 5:24 (NIV) - Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

This is the word of Jesus Christ. He promised you will not come under judgement. The word Very truly in the Greek is "Amen Amen", meaning MOST ASSUREDLY. Why does God have to convince us so?

I leave this to your thoughts.

God Bless

There is a way to lose Salvation.

If you purposely slap away God's grace and you tell God to judge / assessed you based on what you do, whether you're able to meet up with his standard of holiness...and that would include you trying to adhere to obey God and all his commandments.

Based on that, you can lose it.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 5 2018, 10:14 AM

Well, that's another consideration.

Hey Bro....

I think here is where a lot of us missed it. I'm not saying don't obey God. I'm saying as what you said above...that one cannot meet God's standard by our performance and that would include trying to meet up to God's standard via his commands. Many of us subconsciously do that unknowingly.

Besides..we are made saints, made righteous, given this divine status by Grace and it comes from receiving it by Faith.

This is where the devil has a hold on many..because he always point your status as saint back to yourself by what you do when God wants you to be pointed to Christ as your righteousness. We always equate righteousness and holiness based on what we do with our performance when it's a grace gift.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 6 2018, 02:23 PM

thats the right thing to do....

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