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post May 22 2018, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ May 22 2018, 11:27 AM)
Nope, never did I said the HS is 1/3 of the Trinity. Don't twist my words.
For anyone to believe that the Holy Spirit is the MEDIUM and the FORCE or ACTIVE PRESENCE is clearly heresy. Do I need to say more?

The Holy Spirit is GOD.
The Holy Spirit is NOT a MEDIUM or FORCE or ACTIVE PRESENCE.
GOD is not a MEDIUM or FORCE or ACTIVE PRESENCE.

See the fallacy here? I don't know how to make myself any clearer.
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but the Holy Spirit is the presence of God in the believer's life, isn't that active presence?
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post May 22 2018, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ May 22 2018, 01:40 PM)
Is this thread really full of Watchman Nee & Witness Lee believers?

The Holy Spirit is GOD full stop

Upon justification, the HS indwells a believer as a seal guaranteeing the deposit of salvation.

There is a fundamental difference between these two statements:
1) The Holy Spirit is the presence of God in the believer's life (not sound)
2) The presence of the Holy Spirit in a believer is the presence of God in the believer's life (sound)

The Holy Spirit is NOT the presence of God in the believer's life.

Please speak to your pastors or church leaders for clarity on this I urge you.

Example:
Najib is Rosmah's husband
When Najib is beside Rosmah, Najib is not the presence of Rosmah's husband in Rosmah's life.
When Najib is beside Rosmah, Najib still is Rosmah's husband.

I hope you guys get it. Because to merely say that the Holy Spirit is an active presence, a force, a medium or any other thing for that matter is heresy.

The Holy Spirit is GOD full stop
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For me, for the Holy Spirit to be the presence of God would mean the HS is definitely God. I don't see why it is confusing at all.

What you're gripping about on "forces", etc what not, thinking it's representing God from afar...I don't think Pehkay or me or anyone else construe it that way.

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post May 23 2018, 09:12 AM

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I think what is important is living out the New Life, loving others rather finding faults and accusing.

That's falling prey to what the enemy wants. Which is to create conflicts and dissension.

We always welcome Jesus with open arms but fold our arms towards others. <---We need repentance in this area.

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post May 25 2018, 09:38 AM

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If God is not angry with me...

Hebrews 12:6 (KJV) - For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Good morning fellow believers,

In our previous devotion, we know that God is no longer angry at you in the sense of God's wrath. Because and "otherwise" IF God is still angry with you, and is still exhibiting the dispensation of wanting to punish you if you do wrong, it will be redundant for God to send his Son to die. And we always take this phrase lightly. Would you send someone you love dearly to die for someone else if you are angry at that person?

YET there are some people who will think out of their carnal mentality, if God is not angry with me then I can do whatever I want. The same thought goes to what has been said (In Bible) about Grace hyper increasing to cover us "where" sin increases. The whole problem with this sort mindset is the ignorance of not understanding Christ Sacrifice on the cross for the believer has change his/her status from sinner to righteous, apart from our performances. I said apart from our performances. We only grasp this in theory but hardly believe it's correct and true in practicality. We keep tying in New Covenant Righteousness with our performances. I can repeat this 100 times and there will still be people who will not understand this truth. It takes the Holy Spirit for this revelation, your carnal mind will never accept this goodness of God. You will say it's too good to be true.

What am I saying? I'm saying you have been made clean in the judicial eyes of God apart from your own works. Do not think the phrase works refers to charity work. No, it refer to ALL your own performances including your obedience to adhere to God's law, that is under works too. If you do not believe me, read in the Bible of what was said about the self justification of a pharisee and the tax collector in Luke 18:9-14.

Anyway, for those who have been following my devotion and understand it, this is a continuation from the last. YES, God is no longer angry at you. EVEN when you failed and have done wrong. You can keep on coming to God. But will there be correction? Answer is Yes. Before I continue, I want to let you know, God will NEVER correct you with accidents or give you cancer. This is New Covenant biblical truth you must learn to hold dear to your spirit and your heart otherwise you will be easily shaken by whatever people say.

What happens to rebellious believers who don't go to Churches or even refuse to read the Bible or live the New Life of God's Kingdom? God still love that person as a Father to a son or daughter. In such instances, God will allow disappointments to come in. Where at times there will be close doors. Bible says in Hebrews 12:6..God corrects those that He loves. Meaning to say, whatever the person does may end up in disappointments..nothing is happening, no breakthroughs. The reason for this is to draw that person to God. If you have been hitting at a dead end wall, know that God loves you deeply that He wants you to come to Him in repentance, in solitude, in prayer and in relationship.

Do not be afraid of the word "scourgeth", it sounds painful and unpleasant. But the context of that words means chipping off everything that is killing you slowly. Being refine in fire, removing every unwanted dross so that you will be a better person. That is the aim of what God wants to do in your life. Amen?

God Bless.







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post May 28 2018, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ May 27 2018, 03:47 PM)
Anyway, you would never have guess the person who spoke this:
(Guess? biggrin.gif)
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post May 28 2018, 11:12 AM

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God put demands?

2 Corinthians 9:8 (NIV) - And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.

Morning Guys or Night....

Some of us have this thought, If I were to surrender everything to God, God may demand me to do something I'm uncomfortable with. Like going to missions to Somalia or Africa, etc.
It may not be going to far places, could be doing something, like perhaps fear of martyrdom (like apostle Stephen)...whatever it is, the prevailing worry is something along the matter of God's demand.

And behind that idea, someone may quote Bible saying..the cost of following Christ is very High, that we need to surrender all.

Today I will put that misconception to rest.

The problem of this supposedly scripture verse putting demand on the believer is only 1 part of scripture, they don't complete the next scripture verses that equip the believers. Understand that God will not ask you to do something without providing the means or the grace to do it. Where is the basis of this?

Answer is in 2 Corinthians 9:8. This verse is not talking about material provision but involves every aspect in life. Long before God opens up a door of ministry for you..He gives you abundance of willingness, passion, anointing, the means (financial or whatever) to do it.

For example, long before you're given the opportunity for children ministry, God would have put into you, the love for children, the wisdom, the drive, etc.

There are Christians who do no understand 2 Corinthians 9:8. This grace of God providing...is not given when the need arise. It has been given LONG before the opportunity arises AND it is 24/7.
God is constantly supplying...long before asking you to do something for Him. And this is where many Christians have missed it. They always quote God demanding this or that out of fear and have never experience the constant supply of God in 2 Corinthians 9:8.

What am i trying to say?

Simply this; God will not ask you to do something without enabling or equipping you to do it. If there are things that supposedly, God asking you to do and things are constantly failing, it's a high possibility, it never came from God.

As a child of God, you have access to that constant 24/7 supply from God. Receive 2 Corinthians 9:8 into your heart.

God Bless.


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post May 29 2018, 07:52 PM

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Jong Makato, have you applied what you subscribe to, to your own life and see the changes?


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post May 30 2018, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(yaokb @ May 29 2018, 08:36 PM)
UW,

not fair la...
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It is fair actually. laugh.gif

For me, it's pointless to talk at lenght what you believe in if you're unable to walk in it.

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post May 30 2018, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 30 2018, 07:32 PM)
> Martin Luther the Heretic!

There is a catholic thread. Maybe you would find that a better use of time than to argue with Protestants.
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post May 31 2018, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ May 30 2018, 09:37 PM)
Recovering from a nasty virus.

I also found a community of fellow protestants on Discord smile.gif
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TABUNG HARAPAN MALAYSIA
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Please continue to pray for our country, we're deeply in debt and so hordes of Malaysians from all walk of life has pledges to save the country by donating to the tabung harapan malaysia fund.

Please also pray for my well being, recovering much better than previous but still unable to sleep well at night, coughing badly. still on medication and nasal spray. already 2 months
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The Lord Bless you with divine health in the name of His Son, Jesus.
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post Jun 6 2018, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Jun 5 2018, 11:17 PM)
Hi Unknown Warrior,

Does Bible talk about aliens?

I've also got another question about global flood. Were those animals that live in cold climate on the ship as well? If yes, how could they manage to survive despite the climate difference?

I've finished reading the Bible and planning to study it in depth. I think I don't have much trouble understanding the New Testament although what I understood can be different than what the Bible meant. But at least I could comprehend what was written in The New Testament. As for the Old Testament, I'm afraid I couldn't say the same, not to mention understanding the true message that the writer wanted to deliver.
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Hi Nico,

1. No, there's no mention of alien.
2. The word of God did not mention specifically the types of creatures that went into the ark, it could be that there wasn't any cold climate creatures that went in and what is to stop God from creating after the flood?

Well the thing is, the Bible is not a record on taxonomy of biology or science. You'll note that God did not record everything that has happened since the beginning of time. It only records the incidents where there is relative incidents of God Himself and communication between Himself and his creation. It's is in essence a Book on what God wants us to know of where we went wrong and what is the salvation from all these. It is a book to reveal Christ predominantly.

Just remember the old testament are shadows of what was promised to come and it's always about God's son. Many things that happens back in OT is a hint of revealing Christ. For example the sacrifice of Isaac...that is a picture of Christ....Even Joseph, Naomi...all have hints of unveiling Christ Jesus.

Good for you, please do not lose this. I mean the habit of reading God's words, keep it as constant as possible, it's vital for your spiritual life and growth.

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post Jun 8 2018, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Jun 7 2018, 10:55 PM)
Hi Unknown Warrior,

1. In this case, generally, do Christians believe in the existence of alien?

2. Did you mean God create more animals after the flood?

thank you for your summary what the Old Testament is all about
New question

3. I've no question in the teaching of gospels because all these are said by Jesus himself. However, how do we know all the prophecies in Revelation is from Jesus? John said that he saw Jesus but anyone can say similar thing. This includes all the letter written by Paul.
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1. Not everyone does. For me personally, I think it's possible God may have created other intelligent life out there beyond the reach of our galaxy but it's not important. If God doesn't want us to be worried about it, I'm not going to bother.

2. Yes. There are new variants of creatures being discovered even in this age, that tells me God is still creating. Scientist calls it evolution, I call it creation. So what is to stop God from creating cold climate creatures after the flood? We cannot limit what has happened in the Bible to what God is able to do still...... It is what opponents of Christianity love to argue against trying to limit God, making it to no sense from their pov.

It's so timely that you asked me question No.3 because just yesterday night, I happened to watch the Movie, Paul, Apostle of Christ (no coincidence there). How do we know they are authentic in all they have written, inc the prophecies? They all died persecuted for their faith. Why would they want to do that IF it was something they did't held to be true? It must be something that is either real, so strongly you believe in, in order for you to sacrifice your own life. Besides, it's not just 1 person alone, 99% of the apostles all died defending the Faith, tortured or punished by the Romans. That tells you, it's not just 1 or 2 person's delusion.

It is something that was said in the Bible.

1 John 1:1 (NIV) - That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched--this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.

Paul persecuted Christian before his encounter with Jesus. That is one. For him to turn around and suddenly preach a fake religion (implying writing the New Testament, how do we know it's not his own self made opinion) would not make any sense. He was at his height in life, having the power and authority to persecute others. Why would he write, preach and live something that contradicts what he stood for in Judaism?

And remember it's not him alone but all the other disciples stood on the same ground.

You MUST remember this...It was written in the Bible the phrase "...fear of the roman". Too often we take this phrase lightly. But after watching the movie, I understood better. The Romans literally tortured, kill and capture people who professed to be Christians. They were burned alive in public (imagine this..you are alive, tied to a pole, roman soldier pouring oil on you and light you up...while you are alive ..It's really gruesome)...depicted in the movie. The people who converted were living in fear of dying or tortured. There were children, man and woman, young and old all living in secrecy, in hiding.....try to imagine Malaysia May 13 revisited today. The Romans tried to eradicate Christians....And It was literal! Yet the writings of Paul, John and the other disciples survive till this day and age. What does that tells you? If it wasn't something to be of strong conviction of truth, what is the point of them resisting the persecution and dying for the cause of Christ?

Remember that many cults, movement, ideology of Man and some religion has come and go, some have ended (except those preserved by the principalities and the dark powers in the spiritual realm - Ephesians 6:12), Christianity survived too great a persecution during it's birth when Christ walked the earth. It still alive and well today because God is behind this. If it was something that is Man originated(implying we don't know if it's true or not)....it doesn't last. It takes God or some spiritual forces to preserve something this long.

Hope this helps you.

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post Jun 8 2018, 10:07 AM

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Those who are wondering which movie I was talking about in my last post.

Here it is:



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post Jun 11 2018, 02:33 PM

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Trusting God, I believe

Romans 4:5 (NIV) - However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

Good day friends.

When we are born again, at infancy, our faith can soar like the eagle, our passion & zeal fresh as athletic young man. For some, as we grow older.....sometimes we are bogged down by life experiences, we can get discourage by the flaws of being human and the negative things that happens in our life. Sometimes we are influenced and affected by what people say.

We all stumble in many ways and I'm reminded the devil's number one tactic to hinder Christian living is to use the laws of God to put condemnation whenever we can't measure up. This propaganda workings of the evil one works in hidden shadows, in ways we don't realize immediately. The Bible label Satan as "accuser of the brethren.." This enemy is very good in accusing, planting thoughts in our mind, sometime working behind the scene, through people, through our surroundings.

The essence of God's law is demand. The essence of God's grace is supply. What I mean is, under the Old Covenant...God put's demand on Man to measure up against his laws for righteousness but under the new covenant, God imparts righteousness as a gift. ( Romans 5:17). Many times over the devil tries persistently to hoodwink us to live In the New Covenant but with the Old Covenant mindset.

We need to understand the meaning of "gift", it means something we didn't earn by our works or performance. it's given freely by God's grace. What Romans 4:5 is saying when we put our Faith in God, God credits (an accounting term) Righteousness to us and the phrase "who does not work" is very crucial. It means you didn't earn this and God does not owe it to you even if your try to earn it. God wants us to dismantle the dependency of our performance, so much so The Holy Spirit uses the phrase "God who justifies the ungodly".

You know, If God says He justify the Godly, it's something that is right and we all can accept BUT YET, God chose to use the phrase "Ungodly. Why? Well it involves you and I and everyone qualifies! Also because it is that important, how much God wants us to know, you didn't get this righteousness and you didn't get this salvation by your performance. I would dare to venture to say, even your obedience and repentance can dangerously be something that you depended on to qualify and that can become works.

The Bible is very clear. Christ death & resurrection has fulfilled and also cancelled the judgement that was charged against us from God's Law. When Christ cried "it is finished", it was Him alone who worked what God the Father wanted Him to work and it is finished divine work that has broken the chain that brings us home.

As I was writing this, God spoke to me.."My works are not your work". What God is telling me, it is not by might nor power but by His Spirit. My works means nothing. Christ's work means everything and is perfectly accepted by God.

With this encouragement I received, I write to you, to encourage you.

God Bless.


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post Jun 18 2018, 09:08 AM

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Faith is the car key. After starting your car, you still need to step on the pedal to get the car moving. If you think about, if you don't step on the pedal, the car is not moving, you will be stagnant, stuck at where you are, not moving.

Whatever the case, you are still inside the car, never outside.

That car is your Ark, your Christ, your Saviour. smile.gif


This is a parable. laugh.gif

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It's because of Him, not because of You

1 Corinthians 1:30 (NIV) - It is because of Him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God--that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.

Him here refers to God. It is because of God, Christ is our wisdom, our righteousness, our holiness and redemption. When you're in a mess and don't know what to do, you need wisdom. In order to walk with God, you need to know how you are righteousness. In order to have Faith and answered prayers you need to tenaciously know and believe you are redeemed.

And how is it because of God? Answer is; Christ's finished work at the cross.

In other words, what scripture is saying, It's not because we repented, because we obeyed, Christ became our righteousness, holiness and redemption.
Those who have followed my devotions would know I teach... we cannot be our own righteousness, holiness and redemption.

There is an erroneous teaching that teaches that because you repented, you acted right (righteous), have been in good obedience, therefore you are in good standing of God's grace to receive Salvation.

Those who propagate such do not realize, you are inevitably saying, because you have done right, therefore God finds no fault in you and therefore grants you...... This is where you have missed it. You confound and mix this up. But Bible says..God owes no one and God is not indebted to anyone. Romans 4:4-5 substantiate that as explained in my previous devotion.

Now before you get uneasy and gets triggered or confuse; am I saying obedience, refraining from sin and the acts of righteousness is not important? I'm saying, you cannot obtain Salvation through those. Learn this difference.

We need to come to the place and look to Jesus as our wisdom, our righteousness, our holiness and our redemption. Acknowledging it's Christ who are all these and when we receive Christ, God credits all these unto us.

God Bless.





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post Jun 21 2018, 09:51 AM

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Looking to Christ


Acts 20:21 (NIV) - I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

Repentance is coming to Jesus, having a solid and firm trust on Him as Saviour and that you stop depending having trust in your efforts.

If you are willing to come to Him, and say Lord...I don't know what to do, what to pray anymore but to look to you and believe. That is repentance.

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post Jun 24 2018, 08:17 PM

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2 Corinthians 12:9 (NIV) - But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me.

The power of Christ here is what helps believers to walk in repenatance.

*Everything is from God, even faith...what more the ability to walk in repentance by deeds. So the secret is..to tap into God...to be connected by GRACE!

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One of the reason why we stumble

1 Timothy 1:19 (NIV) - holding on to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and so have suffered shipwreck with regard to the faith.

Morning guys, it's no point to remind the leper, the root source of his problem. In Bible days, it was believed, it's because of sin, the leper suffered. Reminding him of his source problem is of NO HELP. Same principle today...it is of no point to remind believers of their flaws..because there is NO POWER in there to deliver.

In 1 Timothy 1:19, what the Word of God implies is that;

If you hold on to Faith but you do not have good conscience, you shipwrecked your Faith. If Paul were to write the Bible in this modern time, he may have use the phrase (instead of shipwrecked), plane crashed your faith. What this means is that...when you don't hold on to righteousness by Faith and good conscience, having condemnation conscience or bad conscience, you shipwrecked your faith or you ruin your faith, you will stumble

What is this conscience?

In the latter part of 1 Timothy, in 1 Timothy 4:1-3...it says: Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron
The key there is that whose consciences have been seared with hot iron. We've been taught... The idea is that; the person is numbed, not able to feel the consciousness of sin. The phrase; sear with a hot iron come from the Greek Word "kautériazó".

but if you checked in Thayer's Greek Lexicon, it says:

http://biblehub.com/thayers/2743.htm

STRONGS NT 2743: καυτηριάζωκαυτηριάζω: (καυτήριον ((cf. καίω)) a branding-iron); to mark by branding, to brand: (perfect passive participle) κεκαυτηριάσμενοι τήν ἰδίαν συνείδησιν, i. e. κεκαυτηριασμενην ἔχοντες τήν ἰδίαν συνείδησιν (cf. Winers Grammar, 230 (216)) (cf. ἀκταφθείρω) (branded in their own conscience i. e.) whose souls are branded with the marks of sin, i. e. who carry about with them the perpetual consciousness of sin, 1 Timothy 4:2 R G L, the major edition, see καυστηριάζω; (some (cf. R. V. marginal reading) would give it here the sense of seared, cf. Ephesians 4:19). (In Hippocrates in a medical sense, to cauterize, remove by cautery).)


So I submit to you, the context of having one's conscious seared = having the perpetual consciousness of sin.

When Jesus Christ cleansed our sins....we are to have a good conscience, out lined in Hebrews 10:2 (KJV) - For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

What Hebrews 10:2 is saying is that, the annual sacrifices of bulls and goat, could not purged the conscience of sins. But in comparison....the Blood of Christ can. In that context we can have a good consciousness of No SIN. And we need to uphold that all the time.

That is one of the Key in helping the believer not to stumble.

God Bless.


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