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post Mar 29 2018, 04:37 PM

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Blessed Easter guys.

Entrance and Parking is free

This year we are having a grand Easter Musical!

- 30 March 2018 (Friday), 8PM
- 31 March 2018 (Saturday), 5PM
- 1 April 2018 (Sunday), 5PM

Calvary Convention Centre Bukit Jalil

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post Mar 30 2018, 09:03 AM

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Jesus paid it all

Romans 10:9 (NIV) - If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

In every worship songs there ever is, almost all of them sings of the wonderful grace, Lifting up God's Name, lifting up the work of Christ and the blood of the lamb being the pivotal focal. You will hardly hear any songs that says it's because you were obedient, you got your Salvation. There is no such worship song because it's not scriptural. I strongly believe..this doctrine of saying the work of Christ is not finished, that we have a part involve in the justification of Salvation, is not from God but the Devil.

The pivotal focus has always been Jesus, not you. Because whether you like it or not, IF you have a part to play, not all the glory goes to God, regardless whether you want to acknowledge this or not, when you say you have a part in justification to God's plan of Salvation, inevitably the glory is split to part you and part God.

Someone said a while ago, it is not enough to just confess Jesus is Lord but you must do the will of God (implying obedience) to enter Heaven. The idea behind this saying is that vocal "talking, saying or confessing, etc" is not enough. You must "DO" something (action)

The Lord gave me this revelation that will settle this once and for all, why that is an error and not scriptural. And I will share this wonderful revelation why, Jesus paid it all, your Faith and by the confession of your mouth Jesus is Lord is more than enough to bring you Home to Salvation according to Romans 10:9.

We all agree that Jesus is the same, Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow, yes? All Christians agree on this regardless of denomination. If we all agree on this THEN consider the Dying Thief on the cross. All he did was believed and confessed. As He was on the cross, what action or performance could he do to prove himself in action?

Christ gave him Salvation the moment he believe and repented by his confession He rebuked the other thief for wrongly maligning Christ. All He did was vocal confession. Think about it.

Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."

If you agree that Christ is the same, yesterday, Today and Tomorrow, then consider that the way the dying thief got his salvation is on equal foundation for you and I.
To deny this is to say God is not consistent or God contradict Himself.

Dear Friends...Rest and Be assured. Christ work is FINISHED at the cross. He paid it all. What Christ did is more than enough because it is divine and perfect work of God, not the works of Mankind.

God Bless







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post Mar 30 2018, 09:16 AM

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GRAHAM KENDRICK
Only By Grace Lyrics
Only by grace can we enter
Only by grace can we stand
Not by our human endeavour
But by the blood of the Lamb

Into Your presence You call us
You call us to come
Into Your presence You draw us
And now by Your grace we come
Now by Your grace we come

Lord if You mark our transgressions
Who would stand
Thanks to Your grace we are cleansed
By the blood of the Lamb


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post Mar 31 2018, 08:46 AM

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Lyrics is in the video. smile.gif

the lyric = the gospel. wub.gif

Showing Christ through our good works.

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post Apr 2 2018, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Apr 2 2018, 11:38 AM)
Weird. No one is forced into celibacy. It is on their own free will. That would be equivalent to saying single people always have abnormal sexual thoughts. LOL.
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post Apr 3 2018, 10:34 AM

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The Love of God

John 3:17 (NIV) - For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.

Some people have this idea, that Father God is a strict disciplinarian who folds his arm, seeing if you are worthy enough to measure up or that Father God is seen to be the type of God who is out to get you and punish you whereas, Jesus Christ, his Son is the loving one, the kind one.

but No, It was the Father's idea to send his son to die on the cross for you, that you may not be punished nor die for your sins. He loves you.




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post Apr 3 2018, 10:49 AM

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One of the things that God has impressed me...many of us give up too soon, give up too fast believing God's word is true.

When there are opposition or contradictory situation opposing what you're prayed for and believed, you give up believing.

And that is the problem and can be dangerous because it leads you to form your own theology of how God's miracle work.

The Bible has said it and is clear so many times...there will be opposition to what you believe in because the devil or satan is still alive. There are powers, principalities in the spiritual realm and that is everyday at work against people of God.

Some of you keep forgetting this element.

We need to keep on preserving in Faith, believing whether in trial or whether in joy, giving thanks in praise and worship. Why is this important?

I don't know why, don't ask me why, I only know God's kingdom, His delivery system works on the basis of your Faith. God will "NOT" the moment you refuse to believe.

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post Apr 3 2018, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Apr 3 2018, 11:03 AM)
Hi,

Actually, can Christians eat foods that have been used to worship idols?

or hold joss stick?
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Yes you can eat the food and it all depends ...if your family members already know that you're a christian and it doesn't stumble them, it's ok. This verse below is talking about people who may not know you and may stumble...that makes the difference.

1 Corinthians 10:25-33 (NIV)

25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26 for, “The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it.”f

27If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. 29I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience? 30If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?

31So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. 32Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God— 33even as I try to please everyone in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved.


* Don't eat the food in the sense because you worship the idol. You can eat the food offered but you don't worship the idol.

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post Apr 3 2018, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Apr 3 2018, 11:45 AM)
Hi Unknown Warrior,

Can you please explain the context 'stumble' here?

what does it mean to cause a person stumbles by seeing a Christian eats foods that have been used to worship idols?

thank you.
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Easiest way to understand the context of stumble is that when an unbeliever sees a christian worshiping an idol literally...act of bowing down to pray to a deity and THEN eating the food because the person prayed to the idol.

The meaning of stumble......without offence: not troubled and distressed by a consciousness of sin.

The person may think "how can it be?"..a Christian who worship God and yet pray to idols...the person may get offended or stumbled....hey this Christianity is like 'simply can do anything".


Maybe this verse below can help to understand the context of stumble.


Romans 14: 1-3, 14-18

1 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them.

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14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.



If it affects your conscience, then just avoid eating it. If you're forced to out of your will, you can pray for God to sanctify the food and cover you in his Grace.

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post Apr 3 2018, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Apr 3 2018, 12:40 PM)
Thank you for the clear explanation, Unknown Warrior.

How about offering joss stick to ancestors? Is it OK to offer joss stick to ancestors when in my mind, I know very clear that they aren't gods? it's just as an act of respect more than worshiping.
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Hi Nico....this is one of the common problems faced by Christians in Chinese culture.

I can understand your concern.

For the Chinese they believe burning joss stick as a way of passing merits or communicating...whichever it is, nobody really knows the real reason for it's basis. It's just a handed down generation thingy. I can bet, if you ask why why to any of your family members, nobody can really tell you, the real reason why. Most of them do it because of tradition.

For your question, it's the matter of your intention. If you're forced to do this because you wanted to respect your parent's wishes, I believe God knows your heart, you may not want to do it, but you're forced.....you are covered by God's grace.

but If you do it willingly without being forced, then understand it can be a form of worshiping ancestors, though you may not consider it. If your family are okay with you, you can politely say No as it's against what you believe in.
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post Apr 4 2018, 10:32 AM

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Justified by Faith not by our actions

Galatians 3:24 (NIV) - So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith.

One of the most devious tactic of Satan is to trick you into believing, you're justified by your actions. So for example...these week Ching Ming, some of us may have been forced to do things that is considered unbiblical. I say this with regards to myself. I don't have a perfect life...at times things messed up.

When that happens, we feel condemned, we feel we have forfeited relationship with God.

I'm here to tell you by the word of God, recognize the devils primary role to always deceive you to look to your own performance . We need to go by the truth of God's word. Not what we think is right by our definition.

If God's word says we are justified by faith, then that is the truth. So what do we do as Christians? Do you still believe in God, despite of whatever failings there is? Then you are still righteous in the eyes of God. Move on, forget what is behind, move on BELIEVING you are justified by faith according to main scripture verse of today's devotion.

Always remember this is made possible because of Christ Jesus's sacrifice at the cross! Let us always give God the praise He deserve!

God Bless.


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post Apr 5 2018, 01:54 PM

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We must receive DEAD to imputation of the Law because it has been PAID!

Romans 7:4 (KJV) - Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

What this verse means is that Christians are "Dead" to the imputation of God's law because of Christ sacrifice at the cross. You can no longer be condemn by the law. We need to receive this even when we are imperfect and especially when we are imperfect. Receiving this gift of grace of no imputation will lead you out of death and into the life of God'd spirit.

Bible says there is NO condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus...meaning those who belongs to God. Then there is a portion that says "this no condemnation is only for those who live according to God's Spirit" and not according to the Flesh in KJV and other translation.

Well, if you're obedient and did not transgressed against God, what is there to be condemned about? Isn't it? Obviously, there is more to this verse, it is not what you think it is.

The Bible never leaves a believer confuse or clueless. And don't worry, God knows your worry on this. I will expound on this so that you can be at peace, consider the exposition:

Romans 10:5 (NIV) - Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires

It all starts at the mind level. Bible never says, you MUST do right living first. Whether you are able to carry out the performance depends primarily on the first criteria. We all have to agree what Jesus said is truthfully correct. We need to turn away from sin because sin is wrong and it destroys! Once you repented in your mind and agree that sin is wrong, then implore to God, you need the power of his spirit to put to death every corruption of the nature of the flesh BECAUSE on our own it is a dead impossibility!

Then understand the next verses that explains....there IS continuous sanctified life even though there ARE imperfections....

Romans 8:10-11 (NIV)
10 But if Christ is in you, then even though ---->your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

Do you see what it says in verse 10 where it says..."even though your body is subject to death..."? That is key to help us understand God knows we have imperfection...otherwise no point for the Lord to mention "Even though..". Even though means despite of...in spite of...It is also pointless to interpret this as eternal life because it talks about life in our mortal body...meaning this provision for the now not the next life after we die.

So I submit to you...this grace works in the midst of your imperfection but on the condition we must accept "dead" to the imputation of the law! Don't allow anyone to otherwise condemn you with the law!

Well those who live according to God's spirit is to live a life of faith, keep on preserving... receiving God's grace 24/7. God's grace is for the ungodly and the undeserving. Until we receive this...we cannot bear Fruit to God. (end verse of Romans 7:4)

Amen? God Bless you all!


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post Apr 9 2018, 03:52 PM

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We just sang this song last week in our church.

[Verse 1]
How great the chasm that lay between us
How high the mountain I could not climb
In desperation, I turned to heaven
And spoke Your name into the night
Then through the darkness, Your loving-kindness
Tore through the shadows of my soul
The work is finished, the end is written
Jesus Christ, my living hope

[Verse 2]
Who could imagine so great a mercy?
What heart could fathom such boundless grace?
The God of ages stepped down from glory
To wear my sin and bear my shame
The cross has spoken, I am forgiven
The King of kings calls me His own
Beautiful Savior, I'm Yours forever
Jesus Christ, my living hope

[Chorus]
Hallelujah, praise the One who set me free
Hallelujah, death has lost its grip on me
You have broken every chain
There's salvation in Your name
Jesus Christ, my living hope
Hallelujah, praise the One who set me free
Hallelujah, death has lost its grip on me
You have broken every chain
There's salvation in Your name
Jesus Christ, my living hope

[Verse 3]
Then came the morning that sealed the promise
Your buried body began to breathe
Out of the silence, the Roaring Lion
Declared the grave has no claim on me
Then came the morning that sealed the promise
Your buried body began to breathe
Out of the silence, the Roaring Lion
Declared the grave has no claim on me
Jesus, Yours is the victory, whoa!

[Chorus]
Hallelujah, praise the One who set me free
Hallelujah, death has lost its grip on me
You have broken every chain
There's salvation in Your name
Jesus Christ, my living hope
Hallelujah, praise the One who set me free
Hallelujah, death has lost its grip on me
You have broken every chain
There's salvation in Your name
Jesus Christ, my living hope...

[Outro]
Jesus Christ, my living hope
Oh God, You are my living hope
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post Apr 12 2018, 09:37 AM

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Hallo guys....
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, anyone want to discuss this?

Romans 8:13 (NIV) - For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.

*misdeeds of the body here refer to act of sinning.....pornography, lying, rage of anger, cheating, scamming, corruption, stealing, etc.

How do you put to death the misdeeds of the body?

How do you do it by the Spirit? What does it means?

Let's discuss this in a group...consider this a small group session.



* I'll start the ball rolling.

For me ..what I understand of "...by the Spirit"..refers to means by..prayer and praying in tongues...while Faith being the pillar. Those who don't believe in tongues...it's alright...just ignore this portion.
By the spirit WOULD mean, it's by God's spirit...not our might, effort or even any inclination that originate from us, Man or Woman.

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post Apr 12 2018, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Apr 12 2018, 05:41 PM)
What should we discuss about? The application? Method?
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Yes...so that we can all learn from each other.

I'm learning as well....
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Apr 13 2018, 04:01 PM)
I felt that applications and methods are not as important as knowing the Spirit first. Knowing the Spirit will determine how we experience it.

When the apostle John in 7:39 uses the words, "the Spirit was not yet" and "has been glorified", he was not referring to the Spirit in His eternal existence (with the inner life of God; it is concerned with God’s relation to us). Rather, John is referring to the Spirit in the exact sense that he presents Him in chapters 14 through 16, as the reality of Christ in the believers.

This is far different from the notion of a representative of Christ or worse, just the power of the Spirit. We have not seen that the Holy Spirit is the Triune God. The Spirit is the realization of Christ, who as
both God and man offers Himself as the life, supply, and satisfaction of His believers.

When Christ tells His disciples that He is not leaving them as orphans, that He is coming to them (John 14:18), He does so in the context of telling them that the Spirit of reality will come to indwell them (John 14:17).

So, when the Spirit comes, Christ comes; Or in other words, Christ comes as the Spirit. When John speaks of the glorification of Jesus, he is referring to a glorification that makes Christ real and available in the believers, so that He Himself can first quench their thirst and ultimately flow forth from their innermost being in a way that manifests God and glorifies Him. His glorification means His passing through death and resurrection and His coming into the believers as the Spirit of reality for their living. He became the indwelling Spirit as the reality of Himself in us.

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So in Romans 8, we walk according to our human spirit that is indwelt by the Spirit (v. 13). We set our mind on the spirit (v. 6). Then spontaneously, we shall by the Spirit put to death the practices of the body. For example, we are tempted to talk unnecessarily long in our phone call. Or we spend too much time reading a newspaper but our time with the Lord cannot compare with it. These are practices of the body that need to be put to death.

The walk whether it is prayer, singing, praying over the word, reading the Word, praying in tongue etc etc should "switch on" the "scientific" law of the Spirit of life. Then, we can put to death in v. 13. Also, there is a dispensing of the Triune God as divine life (vv. 10, 6, 11).

If those activities that we perform do not touch or contact the Spirit of reality, they are just vanity and religious fleshly doing.

Also, we follow the leading of the indwelling Spirit (v. 14) and be led by the Triune God Himself as the Spirit. Then as children of God (v. 16), we live, act and move according to the divine life in our spirit. The Spirit will witness in us, telling us that as child of God, we should not do certain things, say certain things or act certain ways.

We live not by some kind of power or representative that is "detached" from the Triune God. Rather we and Him have one life and one living in the Spirit which is the reality and application of the Triune God Himself.

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Thank you Pehkay.....I kinda agree with you..being lead by God's Spirit would entails things like cutting short talking too long on the phone...or to just at times keep quiet and listen...things like that.

But how does one put to death the acts of the flesh...what's the relation to scientific laws of the HS?
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post Apr 18 2018, 10:37 AM

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Your way out and the way of death to the misdeeds of the flesh

2 Corinthians 5:21 (NIV) - God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

The Lord told me, if you tried to abstain from sin through your discipline and will power, you will have to maintain it and keep it by your discipline and your will power. No wonder, sometime there are up times and down times. But if God is the one who empower you to abstain from sin, God will maintain it. There is no 2 ways about it.

The ways of God is not the ways of Man. We think we need to do things by our performance. God's delivery system is different, it is not through our performance but by the power of your confession of God's word.

As Christians we all know this familiar verse:

The power of life and death is in our tongue, yet I'm convince many Christians do not believe this neither subscribe to it's importance. We feel, we need to do something. We feel. just confessing is not enough...it is easy believism.

All of Jesus's miracle came by Him "speaking". Think about it. No lighting bolt came from his hands, No energy was shot from his eyes. All came through His spoken words.

And this same empowerment has been given to us to speak out.

The verse above is given to you to confess, in the midst of your failure..in the midst when you sin. Do not confess condemnation, do not confess your self guilt and pity. The way out of your sin and IN THE MIDST of your sinning...confess 2 Corinthians 5:21.

The same way how Jesus manifested miracles is the same way how you will experience God's delivery system.

Confess that your sins has been judged...even when you've just freshly committed and confess you become the righteousness of God. Nobody in their right mind, would want to confess they have been made righteous when they've just sin. This self-guilt is something the devil loves to use against believers, because it stops the believer from receiving grace.

Friends...believing in what God says..by Faith...this is the way out of sin.

God Bless.

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God is not angry with you.

Isaiah 54:9 (NIV) - To me this is like the days of Noah, when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth. So now I have sworn not to be angry with you, never to rebuke you again.

It cannot any clearer than this verse. God has sworn....and God doesn't have to swear but for your sake to be convinced, God swore...NOT to be angry with you.

The Bible says...the devil is like a "roaring lion.." Why roaring? But wait a minute..time and time again the Bible describe Christ as the Lion of Judah, so how come the devil is also described as a lion in 1 Peter 5:8?

We all know the devil is an impostor, an imitator to malign God. I submit to you, the verse in 1 Peter 5:8 is to trick people into thinking God is angry. The devil puts out an imitating roaring lion to put fear into people, thinking God is angry at them.

Yet in Isaiah 54:9, the word of God tells us, God swore not to be angry with us. I write this devotion to reach out to all backsliden Christians or Christians who may have given up, to come Home to Father God. The Lord is not angry with you. This is one of the many Bible truths that encourages me and keeps me in Faith and I hope it will be for you too.

If you think about it, It is redundant for God to send Christ to die for your sins if God is still angry with you.

God Bless, people of God.



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QUOTE(pehkay @ May 21 2018, 03:32 PM)
My bad that was a typo. "We have seen that the Holy Spirit is the Triune God." XD

At least someone was reading ... and I am grateful ... I suppose:P
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Morning Guys, from what I understand about the Holy Spirit....The Holy Spirit does not bring attention to Himself, He always bring our attention to Christ.

Perhaps this is what Pehkay technically meant about the HS being the realization of Christ.

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