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post Dec 26 2017, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 23 2017, 04:51 PM)
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post Dec 26 2017, 09:45 AM

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The Battle belongs to God

Deuteronomy 3:22 (NIV) - 'Do not fear them, for the LORD your God is the one fighting for you.'


What is your battle in life? Take this verse to heart, believe it, declare it, pray it and see God deliver your enemies out!

Scripture is God's word. A promise given to only people who has believed in Christ as Lord and Saviour.



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post Dec 26 2017, 01:35 PM

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[Verse 1]
When you're at the end of the road
And it's not the one that you would have chosen
When you're at the end of your rope
And you're holding on, but feel like you're falling

[Pre-Chorus]
With every option exhausted
You've tried everything you know
You saw a light then you lost it
But there is still hope

[Chorus]
Like the fire in the night
Like the ocean parted wide
Like the grave, empty inside
You will see He still does
Miracles, miracles, miracles, miracles

[Verse 2]
Even if you don't see it now
Without a doubt, He's already moving
There is not a pain that you hold
He doesn't know, and He isn't using

[Pre-Chorus]
With every option exhausted
You've tried everything you know
So reach for something beyond it
'Cause He is our hope

[Chorus]
Like the fire in the night
Like the ocean parted wide
Like the grave, empty inside
You will see He still does
Miracles, miracles, miracles, miracles
Miracles, miracles, miracles, miracles

[Bridge]
A broken heart can be restored
A broken soul can be reborn
And greater things are still in store
For us, for us

[Chorus]
Like the fire in the night
Like the ocean parted wide
Like the grave empty inside
You will see He still does
Miracles, miracles
Miracles, miracles
Miracles, miracles
(He still does, He still does)
Miracles, miracles
Miracles, miracles
(More than you can dare to dream)
Miracles, miracles
(More than you have ever seen)
Miracles, miracles
(There's still more, there's still more)
Miracles, miracles
(Miracles)

[Outro]
(Miracles, miracles)
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post Dec 26 2017, 03:41 PM

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post Dec 27 2017, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Dec 27 2017, 09:18 AM)
Thanks for sharing something so amazing.

Have been attending churches for few years and these are what I have seen. I really do not understand why some people against the idea of going to church.

They say it's a scam but i can be very sure to tell you that the churches i attended to did not scam me a single penny from me. They were just equally happy even I decided not to donate.
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2 Corinthians 4:4 (NIV) - The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.



The verse above helps us to understand why. The (small letter) god there as we know is satan. he has planted through the ages.... in all kind of seed (doubt, hatred, etc) into the heart and mind of unbelievers and even have the gumption trying.............. (so to speak) "scam" believers (baby christians) against God, against christianity, christians and the church. And that god of the world will hold fast to every unbeliever in bondage...he will not let go so easily. <----It's a warfare.

This is something they do not see and realize because they are also under the bondage of sin..thus making them blind and oblivious. You can see this in the way how they think of us.

They do not even understand the hostility, why they hate God. They think they do but if one would really think deep about it, they have no real reason.

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post Dec 27 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 25 2017, 09:29 PM)
Hey, while I was discussing Jesus with BF, we found these two geneologies

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...w+1&version=NIV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+3:23-38

I only know that Matthew is a Jew and Luke is not, so their way of writing genealogies may differ.

So why is Luke's list different from Matthew?
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Different targeted audience.

One is towards the jews (Mathew account) and One is towards the Gentiles (Luke account).

Matthew emphasizes on Christ as the seed of Abraham and the legal heir of David, the long–awaited King of Israel who would ultimately restore his people from exile. (Jewish perspective)

Luke, emphasizes to the first Adam, thus making the point... Christ as the Second Adam, the key/gateway salvation, the Savior of all humanity. (Gentile perspective).

Hence why the order of the genealogy is different.

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post Dec 27 2017, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Dec 27 2017, 11:33 AM)
I understand if an atheist/unbeliever try to disprove Christianity when it's being promoted to them. I would probably do the same if you tell me to follow your practice out of nowhere. However, I wouldn't create a thread just to tell how BS that is.

It's also funny how people always say that churches are good in brainwashing people. LOL. In fact, the person who is afraid of going to church because of this reason is the one to have been brainwashed. I was one of them, afraid of being brainwashed by pastors but I feel regret that I didn't go to church earlier now.

If I did, I might not have done so many mistakes in my life. There was a time that I even tried to suicide but thank God, it was a failed attempt (that was also the time I started going to church). I know what people have been saying behind my back, weak, pussy, strawberry generation but other than these, there's no one that's really willing to help (other than family members of course).

Therefore, call me a delusional person to believe in fairy tale if you like. I certainly do not mind because I know this 'fairy tale God' is much more willing to help than those who really did exist in this world. The persons who should be ashamed aren't Christians but those who only know how to judge others.

Before I started going to church, I always heard some Christians said how they wish they could get to know Jesus earlier. At that time, I thought it was just an exaggeration to promote Christianity. Now I know it's true because i feel the same way.
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Actually it wouldn't matter. As long as the person has been separated from God, the nature of the flesh in that person will exhibit a sort of a hostility against God. Even if the person feels... has nothing against God, he/she will find God, Christianity, Salvation does not make much sense.

The reason why a person would go to the extend of opening a thread..even to confront in real life, (may get physical even) tells the sign of being in deep/great bondage.

Such a person would need deliverance as his mind is already pass the verge of rationality, being manipulated by the evil one.

As Christians we need to understand the fight is NEVER against flesh and blood but is always primarily against spiritual forces, principalities, etc.

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post Dec 29 2017, 01:55 PM

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Where sin increased, grace hyper-increased

Romans 5:20 (NIV) - The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,

There is provision of abounding grace where sin increases. Why? Because for the believer, the blood of Jesus Christ is divine redemption, it is the blood of both Eternal God and Man..not the blood of bulls and goat where provision is temporal. The Redemption of Christ is not wish-wash but eternal. It is divine blood!

Believers may sin, but they fall in the Ark of God's covenant. While Noah was in the ark..though the waves may rock the boat, but they all were safe, though they may trip..but they trip in the Ark.

I pray the Holy Spirit gives you this divine revelation.
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post Dec 30 2017, 08:56 AM

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"Grace Is Enough"

I can boast to many works
Done out of insecurity
And credit many conversations
To my immaturity
And while I’m misunderstood
You are understanding me
And showing me
How grace is enough

For everything that I’ve done right
Seems like a thousand I’ve done wrong
And I keep on losing count
Of all the times my flesh has won
And when the light of Christ that’s in me
Is overshadowed by the fall
You’re showing me
How grace is enough

When I feel unworthy
And so undeserving

[Chorus:]
Still I can come, just as I am
For I find Your love
Is free of condition
So I will run to Your wide open arms
Where I am accepted
And I am forgiven
Grace is enough for me
Your grace is enough for me

I’ve been quick at passing judgment
When I’m worthy of conviction
And the times I’ve measured virtue
Only based on my religion
But theology it seems
It’s not the things that’s saving me
Your are showing me
A grace that’s enough

When I feel unworthy
And so undeserving

[Chorus]

[Bridge:]
Though I was blind, now I see
Sweet is the sound
Of Your grace over me
You said it all on the Cross
Your grace goes beyond
All that I’ve done

When I feel unworthy
And so undeserving
You love me beyond
All my failing and hurting
It’s not who I am
But who I can be
And I know You are working
Your purpose in me

[Chorus]

Your grace is enough
More than enough
Your grace is enough for me
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post Dec 30 2017, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 30 2017, 05:11 PM)
That's such a sweet song smile.gif

I can already imagine many Christians having problems with this song though
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I like the phrase

But theology it seems
It’s not the things that’s saving me
Your are showing me
A grace that’s enough


Theology cannot save..the Grace of God..in what Christ did can.
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post Dec 31 2017, 10:16 PM

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Happy New Year 2018, fellow Christians and friends.
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post Jan 1 2018, 03:46 PM

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Was helping to remove lalang in one of my relative house....the place has idols.....funny thing is; the ordeal was so tiring, it caused me to be extremely exhausted to the point I had to pray for God to give me strength.

I felt warm sensation upon my prayer....

Gain back strength even upon prayer....




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post Jan 2 2018, 05:08 PM

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Interesting article.....take it with pinch of salt though.......

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The initial steps towards the scientific study of the Shroud of Turin and the blood of Jesus imbedded in the relic were taken soon after the first set of black and white photographs became available early in the 20th century. In 1902 Yves Delage, a French professor of comparative anatomy, published the first study on the subject. Delage declared the image anatomically flawless and argued that the features of rigor mortis, wounds, and blood flows were evidence that the image was formed by direct or indirect contact with a corpse. William Meacham mentions several other medical studies between 1936 and 1981 that agree with Delage. However, these were all indirect studies without access to the shroud itself. The first direct examination of the shroud by a scientific team was undertaken in 1969–1973 in order to advise on preservation of the shroud and determine specific testing methods. This led to the appointment of an 11-member Turin Commission to advise on the preservation of the relic and on specific testing. Five of the commission members were scientists, and preliminary studies of samples of the fabric were conducted in 1973.

The Veil of Veronica is enclosed in an elaborate outer frame with a gilded metal sheet within, in which is cut an aperture where the face appears; at the lower extreme of the face there are three ancient bloodstains which correspond to the shape of the hair and beard. Very few inspections of the Veil of Veronica are recorded in modern times and there are no detailed photographs. The most detailed recorded inspection of the 20th century occurred in 1907 when Jesuit art historian Joseph Wilpert was allowed to remove two plates of glass to inspect the image. He commented that he saw only "a square piece of light coloured material, somewhat faded through age, which bear two faint rust-brown stains, connected one to the other".

Ron Wyatt discovered the Ark of the Covenant, and, as a totally unexpected second discovery, to his astonishment found the blood of Christ on its Mercy Seat. A DNA analysis proved the miraculous nature of the blood. Ron Wyatt's discovery should have made international front page news, but was largely blacked out by the corporate news media. It was quietly but excitedly reported on by the Christian news networks. When scientist Richard Rives tested the dried, two-thousand-year-old "dead" blood, he was able to analyze its chromosomes—which is only possible with living blood. Upon further analysis, the blood was found to contain twenty-three chromosomes from the mother (Mary)—as is normal—but only one "Y" chromosome from the Father (God)—which should have been impossible, as regular humans have 23 chromosomes from mother and 23 from the father—a total of 46!

The Knights Templar knew that Joseph Arimathea was believed to be the man who collected some of Christ’s blood in a chalice as he hung on the crucifix, using a cloth to wipe excess splattered blood. No one knows what became of the Holy Grail or the blood it contained, but a piece of that cloth was obtained and preserved by the Templars.

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post Jan 4 2018, 08:56 AM

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Where sin increased, grace hyper-increased

Romans 5:20 (NIV) - The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,


Some people think God's Law is given to help us to be Holy and obedient. But my Bible tells me in Romans 5:20, the Law was brought in to increase transgression! The 100% opposite.

I believe here is where some Christians has missed it.

Until we as Christians understand this; there will be a distinction between baby Christians and Fully matured Sons Christians. Many a times we may think we understand this in the mind but never walking in it's truth in practicality. We will say things like God please cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Praying such prayers shows that the person still look to the Law to make him righteous as what Romans 5:20 tries to persuade us otherwise.

I pray The Holy Spirit gives you this revelation.

God Bless.


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[Intro]
The word says
"For the spirit of heaviness
Put on the garment of praise"
That's how we fight our battles

[Chorus 1]
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles

[Verse]
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You

[Chorus 1]
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles...
This is how I fight my battles

[Verse]
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You

[Chorus 1]
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles

[Verse]
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You
It may look like I'm surrounded but I'm surrounded by You

[Chorus 1]
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles
This is how I fight my battles




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Spiritual Warfare Song! This means War against spiritual forces of darkness!
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post Jan 6 2018, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Mr. WongSF @ Jan 6 2018, 03:41 PM)
What does hyper-grace mean?

                                  Does it mean the more i sin, the more God forgives me?
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If you take this verse coupled with Romans 6:14....

It means that if you receive this abounding measure of the grace Christ has given you, sin will lose it's hold on your life, you will not want to sin.

As Christians..God has us covered. In the area of our weaknesses, God's grace super exceed.

This will only work if you receive this as it is, unmerited.
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post Jan 6 2018, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Mr. WongSF @ Jan 6 2018, 08:19 PM)
What about Christians who continue sinning even after a 'salvation experience' ? Are their sins forgiven past, present & future?
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Do you understand what Romans 6:14 is saying? Does it not help you to understand why Christians continue sinning?
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post Jan 6 2018, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mr. WongSF @ Jan 6 2018, 10:13 PM)
How come you are answering my question with questions?
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Because I want you to read the scripture verse I gave you. It basically helps you to understand the question you asked me.

Have you read it? What do you think it says there?

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post Jan 8 2018, 10:37 AM

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Should we sin more that grace may hyper increase? Part 3

Romans 5:20 (NIV) - The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,

The question that was asked towards me is same level of accusation was level to the apostle Paul in Romans 6:1: What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?

The devotion that I've shared with you is the same message that the apostle Paul preached. Many a times we have ignored the next verse, Romans 6:2: By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?

What this verse means is that born again believer, have died to the imputation of sin , aka the life of a sinner. The status as a sinner. Romans 6:5-14 (Please read your bible on these verses before continuing) tells us that those who accept Christ, when Christ died..our old person also died (hence signifying the status of the sinner hood status also dead). When Christ was resurrected, we who are in Christ are resurrected as a New Creation.

Now with that being said, people may ask...as Christian does it mean we cannot sin? Well, it doesn't mean we as born again believers are unable to sin or fall from grace. We can, and I say this prophetically...we will in the future. The only wrestle that you may have is that; does your irregular periodic falling away/sinning, changes your status of being righteous/sinner before God?

If the covenant that God cuts with you, for righteousness depends on your act or performance then it does...it is a covenant of God's Law which is the Old Testament.
But if the covenant that God cuts with you, for righteousness depends on your Faith, then how can your status be so flimsy and change like the covenant of old, where it is the sacrifice of bulls and goat offering temporal covering.

As a born again believer...which covenant are you under? The old or the new?

Is the work of Christ Jesus temporal and flimsy like the blood of bulls and goat?

This is where if you understand how you attain righteousness under the New Covenant....is basically what separates baby Christians and full mature Sonship Christians.

I leave this to your thoughts.

God Bless.

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post Jan 8 2018, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Mr. WongSF @ Jan 8 2018, 01:04 PM)
So thats mean i can't go on sinning after i'm saved? What will happen then? I try not to sin. But i love to sin. Occasionally. Willfully even. All the time.

But i still believe tat Jesus is the Son of God & that He died for my sins. 

What is this "sin unto death"? Are there sins that don't lead to death? Which are bigger sins then? 

How does hyper grace work? Do i need to confess again & again every time after i sin?
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No Brother.

What Romans 6:2 is saying is that...we who have died to sin means our status hood...as sinner is no more, If you read the entire chapter of Romans 6...it's expounding in the context of our "status". The key verse is in verse 11: In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Look at the previous text..what it's talking about "in the same way"?

See from verse 8 to 10..Christ died only once and was resurrected only once. The Bible also repeated this in other parts...Christ is not going to come down and die again on the cross...everytime you sin. Do you agree?

If Christ died once and that is enough to remove your sins...In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin..meaning in the same way count your status as sinner no more..it is dead. Done away with! Count YOURSELF dead (no more) to Sin. Talking about your person, not the action.

Do you get me so far?

Christ came to change the believers status hood once and for all.

Now just because, God has changed our status from Sinner to Saint by his Grace through Christ...does it mean..we cannot sin? The answer is we can. Why because the nature of the flesh still reside in our body.

Before I continue..I need to say this; The Flesh does not define who we are...God's grace define us. We may have the flesh but we are NOT the flesh as it's status. We are made righteous by our Faith in Christ.

And what causes us the tendency to sin? The answer = God's law. The more we focus in trying to obey God's Law, the more God's law work against us to cause us to sin.

So what is the solution? Well...Look away from God's Law, look to God's Grace. That is the antidote to sin and that is the only answer that will deliver us. Why? Because Grace is not a subject, it is the very person of Jesus Christ.

The way out of sin..is to keep on receiving God's Grace everytime you fall. Romans 6:14 promise this Grace will lead you out. Keep your eyes on Christ all the time 24/7.

In summary, what is God's grace all about? Simply put..it to just rest and believe Christ sacrifice is more than sufficient and has us covered in every area of our weaknesses...everytime there is sin..it has been judged at the cross. We must practise this...everytime we fail...confess and Thank God, that sin HAS BEEN judged at the cross.

When we keep receiving this grace in abundant [His Grace will super abound (hyper). The word Hyper comes from the Greek (Hooper)] God promise in Romans 5:17...It will lead us out of sin. See..When we reign in Life (romans 5:17), sin does not!

Hope this explanation helps you to understand a bit.








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