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post Oct 19 2017, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 19 2017, 12:11 AM)
Speaking about reports, 2 of my post in An Ordinary Christian Thread just got reported yesterday. The funny thing was that those post got posted last weak. But right now they got reported by you know who.

I really do not want to reveal the name, but then me and everyone else who read this post probably knows who is the one who is doing the reporting.

So now we know who is the hypocrite here who claims that he has no intention of offending anyone and yet is willing to report my posts. Now we know who is the real liar right? We know who is the real bitter one right?

Just funny. Seems that this kind of person like to project his own deficiencies to others. He is a liar, a bitter person. And he is getting desperate. Because now he even resorts to reporting post posted a weak ago. Well. He will be going to his place for certain.

Having pastors like him really shows that we are at the end times right now. He will definitely pay at the end.
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You can check with any of the Moderators If I reported you.

laugh.gif So butthurt over your own presumption.

You forgot, you made many enemies out of your own aggressive attitude towards others.
Ownself problem but want to blame me.

Really stupified amazing.


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post Oct 19 2017, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(zanness @ Oct 19 2017, 10:04 AM)
If you say you are a Pastor, then walk away from this.
Is this not also what Jesus asked His disciples to do so?
Matthew 10:14, "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."

Do remember that the entire journey of a christian is to be more Christ-like.. which means acting like one too.

James 1:19,20 "Wherefore, my beloved brethen, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God".

Personally, i think you should answer lesser with your words but with God's word.
Because its not biblical when you dont keep your eyes upon God as the final destination of whatever you want to discuss.
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No I'm not a pastor, they say that just to spite me out of being sarcastic.

I Prefer to be known more of a laity.

But you are right, these days I don't bother much with whatever nonsense they spew out, just to correct where it is necessary but not more than that.

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post Oct 19 2017, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(zanness @ Oct 19 2017, 10:35 AM)
Does it matter what you can be known as? Laity, pastor, or whatever. In the end of the day, we have our responsibility as Christians, as a candle on a lampstick.

James 4:11, "Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge."

Unless you are perfect by the law, then judge. But we all are sinners saved by grace. Who are we to judge but by Jesus Christ.

James 5:19-20, "
Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins."

Isn't this what God has commanded us to do. to communicate and to do it with charity (love). I'm sure you know how Paul commanded the Corinthians to do it with love in Corinthians.. and how meaningless it will be without it.
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post Oct 19 2017, 11:16 AM

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I have to agree with Thomas.

Science is at best predicting what is the most plausible explanation for the beginning but that doesn't mean it's actually what it was.
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post Oct 19 2017, 04:47 PM

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zanness

which church you go to?
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post Oct 19 2017, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(zanness @ Oct 19 2017, 05:35 PM)
I beg to differ,
When God wrote on Genesis 6 days and got rested on the seventh, it literally meant so.
Most Lutherans would take this out of context and claim that it is an era but when you dig deeper in into the original language of the Genesis, and also cross reference it with new testaments and other verses in the Bible,
you will realize God meant 6 days.
Exodus 20:11
Hebrews 4:4
Exodus 31:17

and with reference to poetic writing, i believe God meant ALL SCRIPTURE in
2 Timothy 3:16 and not SOME scripture..
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

I believe that when God wrote clearly certain locations, and certain places, He meant it so.
Revelation 22:19
" And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book"

Just because God's prophecies have yet to take place, we should not claim it will not.. Else, we contradict ourselves in faith, altering God's word to suit our human believes?

It is best we take God's word seriously... word by word..

We should give God glory and not undermine it..
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Trying to understand God's word as it is..word by word literally also falls into danger of reading it from the flesh.

God's word is spirit, not alphabet letters.

It has to be understood in revelation by Holy Spirit and every scripture must be understood under the light of New Covenant, more especially in Christ because the Bible is all about God's son.

In the OT...there are many hidden revelation of Pre-incarnated Christ.

I can give you a very good example.

The Sacrifice of Isaac. Do you think God actually was talking about Isaac being Sacrifice?

He is actually talking about his coming Son Messiah. When Isaac was carrying the wood up to the mountain, that is a picture of Christ.
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post Oct 19 2017, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(zanness @ Oct 19 2017, 06:32 PM)
Agreed.. there are numerous verses in the past where Jesus Christ is actually being revealed. Not just Issac's Sacrifice, you can see Moses and Aaron being bitten by the poisonous snake, you can also refer to Moses hitting the rock at the wilderness, and much more.. but taking each word of God is just a PART of interpreting God's word. And still, each word matters.
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Yup I agree, every word in Bible is important.

But as for the matter whether it's days or age, that is something I'm still contemplating.

For me It's not impossible for God to create the world in days but then again Bible is written in Hebrew and Greek.

Even we don't know for sure if God really did that in days or in age if we were to say nobody was there to witnessed creation to know for sure.

Anyway the point is (for me); Old Earth or Young Earth is not something that is critical that has to be solved, what is important is what God wants us to know; which is the condition of every human has fallen, we have been separated and God is calling everyone to come home to Him where we can find life and the meaning of life.

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post Oct 20 2017, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(zanness @ Oct 20 2017, 08:00 AM)
If you ask me, i personally think you love God but are at the same time trying to make sense of what the Bible has written.
You've got the gospel half right.. old earth new earth its just a timeline which we are going through. But i am puzzled. Does God surprise you when He says He can do it in 6 days ? lols..

(God has His ways, its whether we have faith in Him that He did it or not)
Isaiah 55:8-9," For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts"

(Believe as a little child, child-like faith is what we need to practice, not through logical human reasoning)
Matthew 18:2-4, "And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven."
Whats important is, yes you are right.. man has sin.. Sin separates us.. but Jesus Christ PAID for our sins through death, cleansed us through His blood, and overcome death for us through his resurrection.. this part is VERY important..

**(Why i stress this? James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.")**
** Matthew 7:22,23 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will i profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Its not merely believing there is one God.. Muslims do so too.. its very important to know and believe what the entire true gospel is about..
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Huh? I think you missed what I said about It's not impossible for God to create the world in days. biggrin.gif

btw bro, Gospel is not about Young Earth or Old Earth.

Think about this; Every Scripture is God's breath but not every scripture is the Gospel.

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post Oct 20 2017, 09:02 AM

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Olam in the Hebrew = ages (1), all successive (1), always (1), ancient (13), ancient times (3), continual (1), days of old (1), eternal (2), eternity (3), ever (10), Everlasting (2), everlasting (110), forever (136), forever and ever (1), forever* (70), forevermore* (1), lasting (1), long (2), long ago (3), long past (1), long time (3), never* (17), old (11), permanent (10), permanently (1), perpetual (29), perpetually (1).

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5769.htm

Yom = afternoon* (1), age (8), age* (1), all (1), always* (14), amount* (2), battle (1), birthday* (1), Chronicles* (38), completely* (1), continually* (14), course* (1), daily (22), daily the days (1), day (1115), day of the days (1), day that the period (1), day's (6), day's every day (1), daylight* (1), days (635), days on the day (1), days to day (1), days you shall daily (1), days ago (1), days' (11), each (1), each day (4), entire (2), eternity (1), evening* (1), ever in your life* (1), every day (2), fate (1), first (5), forever* (11), forevermore* (1), full (5), full year (1), future* (1), holiday* (3), later* (2), length (1), life (12), life* (1), lifetime (2), lifetime* (1), live (1), long (2), long as i live (1), long* (11), midday* (1), now (5), older* (1), once (2), period (3), perpetually* (2), present (1), recently (1), reigns (1), ripe* (1), short-lived* (1), so long* (1), some time (1), survived* (2), time (45), time* (1), times* (2), today (172), today* (1), usual (1), very old* (1), when (10), when the days (1), whenever (1), while (3), whole (2), year (10), yearly (5), years (13), yesterday* (1)


http://biblehub.com/hebrew/3117.htm

Look at the examples used in scripture verses in context. (Right Hand side)



*Not disagreeing or agreeing with anybody but to tell you

Day 24 hours is correct in Genesis but also it denotes "Time" which may not also be 24 hours because it is interchangeable, hebrew is a rich language, which at times, English just cannot justify.

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post Oct 20 2017, 10:35 AM

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Hey Brothers and Sis......

come chip in your testimony, how God has touched your life.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4300116/+600#entry86742845

Apologetics in session!
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post Oct 20 2017, 10:52 AM

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To be honest, I would think it's more plausible for Young Earth, you know why?

Things decay and I don't think we can have enough resources if it's billion of years...if you can understand how long is billions.
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post Oct 20 2017, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Oct 20 2017, 10:57 AM)
Would you mind to elaborate this part?
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I'm thinking from the viewpoint if there is no God, everything that has life are left alone to survive with whatever that is sustainable and because Nothing last forever, every matter decays over time........

How can there be a continual sustainable life over billion of years? Because the propensity for death and decay would be greater in the absence of God...imo.
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post Oct 20 2017, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Oct 20 2017, 11:37 AM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just trying to understand your view.
Your proposition is if there's no God, life over billion of years isn't possible. So for life to continually sustain over billion of years, there must exist a God. I understand this much.

But I'm still lost, how does it connect to the Young Earth's plausibility?
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Because nothing last forever, the propensity for death and decay is there.

We should have a dead earth with no life or not much life over billion of years as with other planets.
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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Oct 20 2017, 11:48 AM)
Couldn't God exist and there still be 4.5 billion years old Earth?
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Possible too, hence i've yet to be conclusive on this.... just my random thoughts hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 20 2017, 03:38 PM)
His writing sounds like was borne out of hurt.

anybody can quote scripture but I can tell, he's trying to self justify his own reason, there's bitterness in his writing as well.

To refute this claim, the Book of Acts documented Church organization as well as the hierarchy given, so this means Church was God's own idea.

You cannot use a verse to refute another verse, Bible does not contradict each other unless it's clearly mention in the Bible ..for example, the Old Covenant where God ended for the believer in Christ.

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post Oct 21 2017, 09:00 AM

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Veteran Christians who may Failed

Philippians 3:12-13 (NLT) - I don't mean to say that I have already achieved these things or that I have already reached perfection. But I press on to possess that perfection for which Christ Jesus first possessed me. No, dear brothers and sisters, I have not achieved it, but I focus on this one thing: Forgetting the past and looking forward to what lies ahead,

Some of you may have lived some years, some decades down the road of walking with Christ. And yet, despite of having such a vast and rich experience, knowledge and revelation, you at some point failed and sinned against God.

You will feel dejected because you knew many things revealed and you have tasted the powers of divine Heaven in your life, feeling by right you shouldn't have failed.

Here is where the devil will accuse you to your face and you will feel the pinch of his accusation.

I'm here to encourage you to pick up where you've fallen and move on. If the very chosen apostle of Christ can say.....I have not reach perfection, let us not be too vain to think we have.

You were running a good race. Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who then is the one who condemns? No one

The word of the Lord says No one because it is God who justify you in Christ. The work of Christ are done by the works of his divine hands alone, not yours.

Those who have travelled some years will understand this, The Lord bless you with much Grace.

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post Oct 21 2017, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2017, 12:19 PM)
To be honest after empires album release the subsequent quality of albums releases by Hillsong already drop it's no longer appealable anymore, even the latest christmas album by them is not so nice
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by Elevation Worship.
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post Oct 21 2017, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2017, 01:04 PM)
This is just ok, better than hillsong though, but not good enough to be on the chart
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It's the matter of how the song can minister to you bro.

Here's another one to keep you going. When you hear this, let it all your hurts and pain go, let your praise arise and let your spirit worship God.

Listen to the lyrics



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