You're not in RWI. This is Serious Kopitiam. RWI is not the same as Serious Kopitiam
RWI has their own board over here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showforum=74
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Jul 15 2017, 09:34 PM
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You're not in RWI. This is Serious Kopitiam. RWI is not the same as Serious Kopitiam
RWI has their own board over here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showforum=74 |
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Jul 15 2017, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 15 2017, 09:34 PM) You're not in RWI. This is Serious Kopitiam. RWI is not the same as Serious Kopitiam Just ignore him, I've reported him to the mods for trying to stir up provocation.RWI has their own board over here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showforum=74 I think there mental nut people in this forum. Some people just cannot be normal and be courteous, just have to act like a psychopath in trying to to provoke people "must" argue otherwise the world will end. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 15 2017, 10:31 PM |
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Jul 15 2017, 10:49 PM
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Jul 16 2017, 01:49 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 15 2017, 10:23 PM) Just ignore him, I've reported him to the mods for trying to stir up provocation. You know UW, I've seen some seriously surreal stuff on Tumblr In Action's Reddit page. At first it was about one website, now it includes any outlandish logic on the internet.I think there mental nut people in this forum. Some people just cannot be normal and be courteous, just have to act like a psychopath in trying to to provoke people "must" argue otherwise the world will end. Nothing really surprises me anymore. Or at least, most things. |
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Jul 17 2017, 06:56 PM
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I'm having trouble reconciliating two things. How is it possible that God wants us to live an abundant life, but the Christian path is not meant to be a happy one?
Many Christians believe that life is all suffering as a side effect of going against the world. Is life on Earth unhappy by default? Or a happy life is a sign of getting too comfortable? |
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Jul 18 2017, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 17 2017, 06:56 PM) I'm having trouble reconciliating two things. How is it possible that God wants us to live an abundant life, but the Christian path is not meant to be a happy one? I think Jesus' sermon on the beattitudes can answer you on this.Many Christians believe that life is all suffering as a side effect of going against the world. Is life on Earth unhappy by default? Or a happy life is a sign of getting too comfortable? Replace all the 'blessed' with 'happy' and Jesus is telling us the true meaning of happiness. Original greek word for blessed is makarios, happy. He flips over everything that people understood about happiness. |
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Jul 18 2017, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 17 2017, 06:56 PM) I'm having trouble reconciliating two things. How is it possible that God wants us to live an abundant life, but the Christian path is not meant to be a happy one? Christian life is meant to be a joyful one even though persecuted. And Yes to live an abundant life is backup by the Lord.Many Christians believe that life is all suffering as a side effect of going against the world. Is life on Earth unhappy by default? Or a happy life is a sign of getting too comfortable? People (generally) unhappy in this world because they're in bondage to the god of this world so you need to know the difference, who is the one who is enforcing the unhappiness. Sometimes the problem lies with the people themselves thinking God wants them to have an unhappy life but if you study the bible in detail, everywhere and everytime God tells you to be joyful and always wants to blesses you in your predicament. This is true even in the beatitude as thomas mentioned. When the bible make mention to put on sadness it's usually in the context towards people who have no heart for God. The reason being, they need to be humbled to look away from self. |
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Jul 19 2017, 03:04 AM
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Hmm... the beatitudes are the following.... Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they who mourn, for they will be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the land. Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied. Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Blessed are the clean of heart, for they will see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. I'm finding it rather hard to imagine it in real life. Do you guys know of personal antecodes of this happening in practice? Maybe it's because most of the time I hear secular or athiestic worldviews. It's very hard to find a Christian example without it lamblasted as fantasy. This post has been edited by Sophiera: Jul 19 2017, 03:07 AM |
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Jul 19 2017, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 19 2017, 03:04 AM) Hmm... the beatitudes are the following.... Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they who mourn, for they will be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the land. Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied. Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Blessed are the clean of heart, for they will see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. I'm finding it rather hard to imagine it in real life. Do you guys know of personal antecodes of this happening in practice? Maybe it's because most of the time I hear secular or athiestic worldviews. It's very hard to find a Christian example without it lamblasted as fantasy. Blessed are the poor in spirit are not just referring to financially poor people. This poor can also mean one who is destitute and in desperate need of God. Truth is, those who are without God are poor in every sense. However the focus is not on being poor...this is where some people missed it. If you read carefully, see where God wants this poor person to be in. The focus is here is being blessed and the kingdom of heaven is theirs. As I've said God always want the person to be in state of being joyful and blessed. Problem is...people always see the negative words but lack the desire to see the revelation of where God wants them to be. Hence some will coin their own conclusion and form what they think is from God, by saying "Oh God wants me to be poor" "Oh it's better to be poor"..I can quote some of the verse they think supports what they say and I can debunk the error if anyone shows this to me. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 19 2017, 11:07 AM |
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Jul 19 2017, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 19 2017, 03:04 AM) It is true that poor in spirit is not financially poor as uw pointed out.It is the spiritual bankrupt attitude (think the pharasee and the tax collector, the tax collector that was beating on his chest crying out for forgiveness, he was the one justified) that will allow for them to see the kingdom. What Im trying to say is, worldly happiness dont last. You can only find true and lasting contentment in our Lord Jesus Christ. Saturate yourself with the knowledge of God, the bible and you will know what I mean. Study the life of Paul, he was constantly beaten, running for his life, persecuted, go in hunger, cold, etc. but in his epistles he was still able to give praise and be joyful for what little he had. He faith took him all the way to matyrdom. |
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Jul 19 2017, 08:10 PM
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I memang salute Paul. His life so hard, but he's so grateful with his missions and so on.
It sometimes get hard for me when I'm surrounded by non-Jesus philosophies. Makes me wonder 'what if I'm the one who's wrong?' |
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Jul 20 2017, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 19 2017, 08:10 PM) I memang salute Paul. His life so hard, but he's so grateful with his missions and so on. Hence why it's important for you to experience God in your life. When you have too many "coincidences" of God answering your specific prayers, that is how you know. It sometimes get hard for me when I'm surrounded by non-Jesus philosophies. Makes me wonder 'what if I'm the one who's wrong?' God has many times expressed himself in the Bible, As the true Living God, this expression isn't just for us to read it and feel nice...it is for reality experience for the purpose of letting us know, He is real. Hence why I'm against any doctrine purported to disarm God's miracle as something elusive. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 20 2017, 11:26 AM |
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Jul 21 2017, 09:43 AM
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Always Live and Pray in the sense of the Father's Love
Good Day friends, I used to feel that whenever I pray to God, I imagined God on his throne looking down to where I am but in a neutral or impartial manner. It's hard to imagine how God sees us when we can't see him. Many times we judge the outlook of God based on what we see...the silent 4 corners of our room seem to depict God louder than anything. The Lord impressed on me to tell you this, See God as how Jesus revealed Him in the story of the prodigal Son. When God took the first step of running, couldn't wait to run to his lost son...when his son was on his way home. That is how God is when we come to Him in prayer, you think you're the one coming to Him in prayer but truth is God is looking forward,couldn't wait for you to come...He Loves to have our time, He loves for us to come to Him in prayer. And that is Bible truth. Never make circumstance to overshadow the truth of who God is, like the silence of the 4 corners of your room. And when you pray, remember He love you. Don't try to imagine this in theory but actualize this in believing. Pray with the sense God loves you, don't pray trying to beg God as if God needs to be convinced as if He is folding his arm. That is not praying in Faith and That is not praying in the Father's Love. Praying in the sense of the Father's Love is praying according to the truth of this word, very aptly..this verse. Romans 8:32 (NIV) - He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? Hold on to this truth, ignore the sayings of people. Look to the word of God as Truth and believe. Don't be discourage if God says No, trust a No from God is for your good and God may have something better in mind for you. But pray in Faith believing God will! I pray you will experience God manifesting his reality in your life. |
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Jul 21 2017, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(Prinny @ Jul 21 2017, 10:45 AM) If you're a Jew and if you're living under the old covenant, those were the rules to follow if you want to avoid being unclean.As Christians, the way we get cleaned is by accepting what Christ did at the cross by faith, plus Jesus did mentioned what goes into our mouth (food) does not make us unclean anymore. Hence there are no rules that bound a Christian regarding food. With that being said, of course we don't partake things like blood, but food like pork is okay. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 21 2017, 01:36 PM |
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Jul 22 2017, 05:18 PM
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Everyone in the thread: are spoken prayers always more powerful than silent ones? Someone once taught me that prayers won't be as effective if not spoken. Because, the logic of breath.
The Holy Spirit is the breath of God. So so best effect we follow His ways and pronounce breath too. |
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Jul 22 2017, 11:25 PM
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https://twitter.com/NAQureshi/status/888068668051140609
From Nabeel Qureshi: Hey everyone, I'm having an emergency endoscopy today, going to the hospital now. Please pray for me. Psalm 34.6 |
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Jul 23 2017, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 22 2017, 05:18 PM) Everyone in the thread: are spoken prayers always more powerful than silent ones? Someone once taught me that prayers won't be as effective if not spoken. Because, the logic of breath. Spoken words increases our Faith according to our Savior...so you think leh? The Holy Spirit is the breath of God. So so best effect we follow His ways and pronounce breath too. I would think it does help to speak out. Does God answer both, Yes. But why spoken is better? Jesus said "speak" to the mountain, never said...mutter in silence against the mountain. It's interesting just before that his disciple asked Him How to increase their Faith before He told them to speak.... Think about it. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 23 2017, 12:40 PM |
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Jul 23 2017, 02:06 PM
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Hi. Am a Christian for since I'm 10 (32 now), and you can say I'm kinda...wavering in my faith. Used to be strong in faith, but nowadays...not so much. Tried praying and all, but seems like it doesn't mean anything.
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Jul 23 2017, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 23 2017, 12:37 PM) Spoken words increases our Faith according to our Savior...so you think leh? I personally don't agree. Jesus also said that when you pray, do it behind closed doors.I would think it does help to speak out. Does God answer both, Yes. But why spoken is better? Jesus said "speak" to the mountain, never said...mutter in silence against the mountain. It's interesting just before that his disciple asked Him How to increase their Faith before He told them to speak.... Think about it. If we say there's more value to spoken prayer, we're putting faith in the method of prayer instead of the One behind it. Kinda like magic words de. |
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