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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 15 2017, 10:49 AM
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Who is against you?
Romans 8:31 (NIV) - What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?
If you feel that everything in this world is against you. Know that God is for you.
Even if you feel God is against you. Know that by truth of scripture, God is for you!
The Bible says, the Devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour (1 Peter 5:8). What this means is that he seeks to deceive someone to give a false impression of God, making it seem as if God is angry with you as a roaring lion.
But let Romans 8:31 sink into your spirit and heart, God is not angry at you and is for you!
God Bless!
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 15 2017, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Sep 15 2017, 01:52 PM) I'm sorry UW. I find it very hard to understand. By just existing we cause a chain of events that hurt another person. By deed and thought, by inaction or action. Just existing as a human contributes to the problem of sin and there's no way to have everyone 100 percent good all the time... That is why Christ came to set things right for people who receive His Grace. And that is why you must receive because only Grace can change you from the inside, not God's law. People ask me, what is Grace? Is it a teaching? A subject? No, it's the person of Jesus Christ. I used to be in bondage to Fits of Rage and Anger and Lust to pornography. Christ delivered me from such bondage as many others have. These days I'm quite resistant to such compared to previously. If Christ can do this for me, He can do it for you too. Hence Romans 8:31. True, I don't think people can be 100% perfect while in this body...but does that mean in our negative temperament God will be against us? Answer is No. God is not like our earthly father. He is God who knows everything about you and still would sent his Son to die for you. Beside this is just temporal. When we pass on and be with the Lord, we will have our new Heavenly Body absent of all sin, we will have perfection by then. So don't worry about it. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Sep 15 2017, 02:16 PM
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 17 2017, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Sep 9 2017, 05:47 PM) QUOTE(Carlo J @ Sep 17 2017, 06:54 PM) Guys, Nabeel Qureshi has finally entered into the joy of the Lord Jesus Christ after a year long battle with stomach cancer. Here's the link: https://blogs.thegospelcoalition.org/justin...eshi-1983-2017/I noticed that people who converts like Nabil, are usually on fire. passionate for the gospel......the passion burns incessantly. Christians don't lose. either way. We live for God, when we die we enter into God's Kingdom.
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 17 2017, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Sep 17 2017, 08:36 PM) Oh no... I still feel sad. MOre like "who's going to talk to the Muslims now?" It feels like a huge loss. Plenty of ex-moslem convert to christian apologetics from middle east. Plentiful. Not to worry, Nabil isn't the only one or the best. Many of them are residing in the states, some still in the middle east.
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 20 2017, 10:36 AM
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Many Christians don't consider their old self dead
Colossians 3:3 (NIV) - For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.
One of the reason why God's word assures of us Salvation is because we are suppose to be dead. Colossians 3:3 says that we have died and our life is now hidden in Christ in God.
What this means is that, our old sinful identity is dead before God, our rightful identify before God is now Christ, that is why we can have assurance of Salvation. And because Christ has been judged, we will not be judged because God promised when we put our Faith in Him, God credit that as righteousness. What many Christian don't understand about Colossians 3:3 is that God only look to Christ(and not us) when we received Christ as our Saviour.
Problem right now is that many of us consider ourselves alive before God to be judged in our thoughts and action.
This is the key problem where we have missed it and don't understand Colossians 3:3.
You may understand this for this very second, but come tomorrow morning, you will forget and there will be some sort of subconscious voice of condemnation, the guilt that you feel when you have done wrong or fallen short of God's standard. This tendency will keep coming back, making you forget, you have died even when you have done wrong, your old identity is no more. You will believe your identity is still alive.
It takes the Holy Spirit to give you this revelation to sink in. It is not easy, even I have struggles in this area of identity at time but I believe this truth is critically important to share out regardless.
Please stop for a moment and refuse to move until you really understand this revelation of you have died. Past tense.
God Bless.
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 21 2017, 10:33 AM
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Release from Ceremonial Law?
Romans 7:6 (NIV) - But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
Good Days fellow believers.
This verse implies we have been released from the Law under the OT. There's a teaching among Christian circle purported, we have been only released from ceremonial laws of moses and not the 10 commandments.
but if you look at the context of Romans 7..where in verse 7, it says;
Romans 7:7: What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "You shall not covet."
The Law of Covet is part of the 10 commandments.
This once and for all, put to rest the argument we have been released not only ceremonial laws but also the 10 commandments. Those who fight for the law in the OT need to read this and understand this.
There is also another teaching in the body of Christ, obedience is key to Salvation.
I want to bring this verse that will also put to rest of this argument.
Galatians 3:2 (NIv) - I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard?
Do you see that? Works of the Law here refers to your obedience or performance.
The Spirit here is referring to the Holy Spirit. And how is it tied to Salvation?
Bible says it like this;
Ephesians 1:13-14 (NIV) - And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession to the praise of his glory.
Without the HS in you, you do not have Salvation. You do not receive because of obedience, you receive because of Faith.
Very clear cut in these verse as evidence. Obedience is the fruit, not the root! You cannot produce it by will power or effort, only comes and works by Faith.
Grace is the Gospel, that will lead you home!
God Bless.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Sep 21 2017, 11:43 AM
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 21 2017, 03:35 PM
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 25 2017, 09:38 AM
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Working out, not working for
Philippians 2:12-13 (NIV) - Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.
It is interesting to note that the scripture is so clear. We are to work out our Salvation, not work for. What is the difference? The difference is; working for denotes working in order to qualify. Working out denotes, because of, therefore we work out.
Do you understand? because there is errornous teaching in the body of Christ purporting that we need to work for our Salvation and they quote this verse in ignorance saying see? This verse say we need to work for our salvation else you won't get it then goes on teaching about obedience, sin and what not. Those who have followed my devotion will know this classic error.
However that is not the message I wanted to bring to you today. There is another teaching in that verse which i want to bring to you.
It is interesting to note and I feel preachers behind the pulpit should emphasize on this more on verse 13 of above main text.
It is God who works in you....to will, meaning if you are unwilling, God can give you the ability to be able to and also to want to. (to will).
I want to bring to you an interesting passage in the Bible in Mark 9. A Father whose son was possessed by a demonic spirit did not have the Faith to believe for deliverance.
He said it like this ironically in Mark 9:24
Immediately the boy's father exclaimed, "I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!" He wanted to believe but just unable to.
I can imagine how panicky and how anxious the father is, he was willing to say anything before God just to get his son delivered. And yet interestingly Jesus worked in spite of his unbelief. Oh I don't think you heard me. I said: Jesus worked in spite of his unbelief.
What is the my point?
With regards to Philippians 2:12-13; You can ask God for Faith is you don't have Faith. If Jesus is willing to work his miracle for this Father who couldn't believe recorded in Mark 9, how much more if you asked Jesus the will to believe?
There are testimonies of people I've heard who don't have faith for healing. This person has been attending a healing rally and he couldn't receive. He came back again and again, but on the 2nd or 3rd night, this person prayed to Jesus asking to impart Faith for him to believe and Jesus imparted what He asked for.
Our God is amazing. In the Gospel of the Grace of Christ, we are covered in almost all areas of weaknesses! If only you knew scripture and the word of God, how much God has got you covered!
Give God the Glory and the Praise. What we don't have, God will supply for us to work out our Salvation!
God Bless.
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 27 2017, 08:58 AM
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God is a Father
Romans 8:15 (NIV) - The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father."
The Holy Spirit refuse to translates this word "Abba" but to record it as it is.
Children in Israel, even today call their paternal fathers as Abba. I can imagine them running around the house calling "abba abba" to get their Father's attention. In the cultures of various people, we called our Fathers as Papa, Ba, Bapa, etc, it would not be wrong to call God as that because Romans 8:15 helps us to understand that.
This is how Jesus came to reveal God. He demonstrated this when he welcome children into his fold, hug them and kiss them as a father would.
This is how God wants us to know Him as demonstrated in the beginning in the book of Genesis when He walk with Adam and Eve.
This is the God whom I also reveal to you because God has been a father to me as well. Hence why the strong devotional emphasis on all the goodness of God, for example his grace, his blessing, his prosperity, his unshakeable Salvation, etc which is what I receive, so I share with you.
Some of you may not have good earthly fathers, but understand that God is not like any earthly fathers. He will reveal himself in reality and you will experience his goodness when you learn to see and understand who His Son (Christ) is. God never abandon his Son Jesus, He will never abandon you.
The reason for the sharing is so that you too can be strengthened in Faith to know Christ and to know Father God and in turn when you are strengthened i hope you will help others.
I do this because I know there are many troubled individual in this forum who needs help but has yet to come to God to ask for help.
Throughout the years I've faced persecution because of this but it does not faze me because to the testimony of His glory, Father God has been real to me, so real I cannot go back, neither turn away to help others. No matter what people throw at me, the strong grace The Lord has imparted to this thread and to my life has help me stand.
I pray for the Grace of Christ to be on you.
God Bless.
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 27 2017, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(BlueTicket @ Sep 26 2017, 11:32 AM) Hi, I think we learnt this world is there for 4.5 billion years in science. so when you learn this in science, what do u feel when bible say our world is only here for 6000 years? QUOTE(BlueTicket @ Sep 26 2017, 11:43 AM) In Quran, they say 6 days is measured in day in universe. would like to know how Christian say about tis as well. Since you indicated "Bible Says". Show me where is the verse that states our world is only here for 6000 years?
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 28 2017, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(BlueTicket @ Sep 28 2017, 05:54 AM) i think u can count from adam generation to Jesus christ. it is very clear show in the bible. maybe u will say after God made the world then it take very longgggg time until they eat the apple tat is not supposed to eat. and Adam and eve have no children until they left garden of eden. but since both of them havent eat the fruit yet, supposed no death, right? how come fossil dinosaurs can be found around the world? they r buried for million of years. and according to science, dinosaurs extinct b4 human appear. would like to know how christians view these as well. No offense, im not challenging ur belief. just wanna know more. When you say, you can count, that is what you say but nothing whatever the Bible states of whatever age of this world. So it doesn't make sense to state "The Bible says", when you are the assuming. Talking about the context here. No offense taken, just trying to dispel the misconception here. This is something, Atheist, and those who attack christianity usually used in ignorance. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Sep 28 2017, 08:27 AM
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 28 2017, 09:51 AM
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Angry Rebuking God?
Hebrews 1:3 (NIV) - The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
Good day fellow believers,
Hebrews 1:3 says that Jesus is the exact representation of who God is. What this means is that how Jesus is is exactly how God the father is. Jesus told Philip in John 14:9: Jesus replied, "Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Even Jesus's disciple did not understood that at first, whatmore many people today.
Throughout the Bible, I see Jesus as always being wonderfully calm and in peace, if not being quite a cool God. Jesus only reserve his rebuke against the Pharisees for their hypocrisy in trying to make it hard for people to come to God. And The only place where the Bible record with the words stating, Jesus being angry was when the pharisees and the teachers of the Law wanted to catch him to see if he would heal a man with a shriveled hand. (Mark 3) And that is also because those people have a hard heart in wanting to uphold the Law rather than help a desperate person in need of healing, displaying lack of grace. That is what made Christ angry.
People tell me when Christ overturn the money changer table at the temple and used the whip, that is a display of anger. I used to think so as well until it occur to me, the Bible never state, Jesus did those things out of anger, only that we presumed that it was. Jesus Christ could do those without anger as well and it can be equally true. John 2:17 gave a clue on the word "zeal" and I've check the word zeal in the Greek is "zelos" which also means eagerness/jealous.
What is my point?
I've began to understand where we as the Church have missed it. Some people reluctant to come to God because they see Him as an Angry God, waiting to catch mistakes as how some Pastor portray him to be. I know for a fact it's because there are pastors / church leaders who give the impression, God will angrily rebuke you and then go on in a tirade of displaying Angry rebuking against another fellow believer which can be discouraging.
but UW, what about in the Old Testament?
My answer is; Of Course! When you put yourself under Law, presuming on your own strength then God will treat you according to your own strength. You will be judged according to whatever you do or say. Remember the difference. And you will begin to note why some other religion which heavily emphasize on the Law, have so much problems after problem and conflicts within their community and also affecting those outside their community.
Because the bible say in John 1:17, Grace and Truth came through Jesus Christ, that is the New Covenant. The Laws of God is not the New Covenant. Grace and truth is. The Truth that came by Jesus Christ is Grace that will set people free. When you don't know how to properly divide the Covenants and mix up the two, no wonder we have so much angry rebuking in the Church today and people are leaving Church, not because of sin but because they are discouraged if not disappointed of not seeing God's Grace when in actual fact God is far more graceful than any preacher display him to be.
I'm here to reveal to you Father is not how some people portray him to be. God is perfect Love, not like the kind of love displayed by any Man. Look to Jesus. That is why I expound of the characteristic of Christ in the beginning of this devotion. Look to Christ, HE is the exact representation of God and if you study about Him, you will not find Him to be angry rebuking God as how some people portray in ignorance.
Will there be correction? Answer is Yes. but look the way Jesus correct people, You will never find Christ tirading against sinners in angry judgemental rebuking as how some preachers does. He does the opposite, Jesus is very gentle in handling people, especially the ungodly. When Jesus is hard on people, He doesn't hurt people, Even when He seems Soft, He is immensely powerful and untouchable by all the powers that is in this world. Jesus is altogether lovely and this is the God that I worship because of his perfect love and grace.
God Bless.
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 28 2017, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Sep 28 2017, 08:40 AM) While the Bible does not explicit say the age of the earth is 6000 years, but many notable Christians and even Christian scholars have made that calculation and came to the figure of about 6000 years. Which I agree is being used by atheists to attack Christianity. So the fire did not start with atheist ignorance but it is an often argued position for many Christians who insisted on the biblical age. https://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-ear...d-is-the-earth/Quote, At this point, the first five days are negligible. Quite a few people have done this calculation using the Masoretic text (which is what most English translations are based on) and with careful attention to the biblical details, they have arrived at the same time frame of about 6,000 years, or about 4000 B.C. Two of the most popular, and perhaps best, are a recent work by Dr. Floyd Jones4 and a much earlier book by Archbishop James Ussher5 (1581–1656). See table 1. Table 1. Jones and Ussher Name Age Calculated Reference and Date Archbishop James Ussher 4004 B.C. The Annals of the World, A.D. 1658 Dr. Floyd Nolan Jones 4004 B.C. The Chronology of the Old Testament, A.D. 1993 The misconception exists that Ussher and Jones were the only ones to arrive at a date of 4000 B.C.; however, this is not the case at all. Jones6 lists several chronologists who have undertaken the task of calculating the age of the earth based on the Bible, and their calculations range from 5501 to 3836 B.C. A few are listed in table 2. The same I would pose them the question as well as to anyone who tells me, The Bible says the age of this world...etc etc.
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 28 2017, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(BlueTicket @ Sep 28 2017, 05:54 AM) how come fossil dinosaurs can be found around the world? they r buried for million of years. and according to science, dinosaurs extinct b4 human appear. would like to know how christians view these as well. No offense, im not challenging ur belief. just wanna know more. The Bible is easily accessible to anyone, you can read the account in Genesis 1, humans are the last in order of creation.
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 29 2017, 11:38 AM
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Jesus Christ
1 John 1 (NIV) -That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.
I can imagine when the apostle John penned down these words, He remembered his hands had touched Christ. He has seen Christ. Someone who is real.
This passage in scripture affirms, Jesus Christ was never an imagination or a fairy tale as suggested by some people.
Jesus Christ was heard by many people He was seen by many people He was touched by hands of many people
The apostle's life was so revolutionized and was so touched by Christ, they wrote about Him and it wasn't by just 1 person by many witnesses.
The God is the Bible was never a concept of someone who lives in lofty Heaven, a sky daddy or an old man in the sky but someone who came into reality in the lives of his creation and seen (witnesses) by many people.
God Bless.
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TSunknown warrior
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Sep 30 2017, 08:47 AM
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Why we shouldn't be judgemental
Romans 12:6 (NIV) - We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.
God gives each believer different gifts to serve. This is equally true of preachers behind the pulpit. There are preachers who are gifted to dispense Hard Messages and there are preachers who have been gifted in dispensing Graceful messages.
In the Body of Christ, God knows which of his people need hard messages as well as which congregation that needs to graceful messages. As such we shouldn't condemn whichever preachers that has assigned by the Lord.
We have hard preachers like Paul Washer which whom I know some people can be ministered to as well as preachers like Joel Osteen whom some people can be ministered to.
The point is, there is no one and perfect preacher whom God has gifted as perfect, there's not one. God would not do that less any man become proud.
With that being said, we should never judge another fellow believer for the gift that He or She has been bestowed upon.
There is a passage in the Bible that teaches us this. Jesus said this in Luke 9 verse 49 to 50;
Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in Your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not accompany us.” “Do not stop him, Jesus replied, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”
Think what Christ is saying here.
God Bless.
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TSunknown warrior
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Oct 1 2017, 12:19 PM
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Not going to bother.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 1 2017, 12:39 PM
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TSunknown warrior
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Oct 1 2017, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Oct 1 2017, 06:21 PM) Ini fella sudah reported ke belum? They come in to insult you personally and go on insult your Faith then proceed to demand that you answer their question. I just don't know why in this forum there are quite a number of disturbed if not psycho people. There was a statistic made in the paper last time. We have quite a number of orang gila in this country For us.....Sign of end times where people are just being evil and they don't realize it. Blind! Sigh. PS: if people would just realize, ask nicely, you will get a warranted response. It goes without saying...don't have to teach this. If I have to teach this for "those" people to understand why I couldn't care less to respond...something is seriously wrong with people these days. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 1 2017, 10:29 PM
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TSunknown warrior
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Oct 2 2017, 09:13 AM
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No powers can separate you from God loving you
Romans 8:37-39 (NIV) - No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Morning Fellow Believers of Christ Jesus.
Today's verse talks about How the apostle Paul went through Life in threats of Death, in harsh Persecution, in Abundance, in Prosperity and He knows, No matter what people throw at you, No matter what wrong prayers, prayed against you by ignorant fellow believers, No matter what the devil try to deceive you, No matter what good or bad things people do to you, be convinced of 1 thing.
No Powers on Earth can separate you from God's Love. Not even psychotic attacks of people whom behind are works of malicious spirit belonging to the god of this world.
Romans 8:37-39 assures us that because nothing can separate or caused God to stop loving you, when you know God loves you, you can also be assured God looks after his own children. Some people may accuse you of many things but know that..the opinions of Man is not important. People may call you all kind of hurtful names but God will never do things like this. Only Jealous and insecure people do.
I have been through persecution and through rough time, some will know this to be true and some expect that perhaps this thread will be given up in hopelessness but by God's grace I'm here to encourage you and to strengthen those whose Faith are wavering...God loves you.
No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
God Bless you and your family.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 2 2017, 09:13 AM
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TSunknown warrior
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Oct 3 2017, 09:26 AM
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Why did Christ curse the Fig Leaves?
Mark 11:21 (NIV) - Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"
Morning Fellow Christians.
Actually I have another devotion in mind on "Christians having a wrong spirit" but for the sake of non-Christians asking a recent question that beg an answer, here it is.
There are 3 revelations here.
First revelation is found in Genesis 3, when Adam and Eve fell, they covered themselves with leaves. But in detail, Genesis 3:7 mentioned that they covered themselves in Fig leaves. In the beginning God clothed Adam and Eve with his Bright Glory and they were not ashamed. God provided this in his Grace. But After the Fall, they felt shame and tried to cover themselves. This speaks of Man's Self Effort in trying to cover up and trying to provide for themselves. If you follow my devotions you will know God hates self righteousness and everything about Man's self strength. Why? Because Self will Destroy Man.
Hence when Christ cursed the Fig Leaves it is also symbolic He will put an end to the problem of Self because He came to provide the true covering which Man had in the beginning with God. (John 17:22).
Second revelation talks about Prayer. Sometimes when we pray, we don't see the result. When Jesus cursed the Fig Tree, its root died immediately. Nobody could see that because the root was hidden in the ground. And the result came the next morning when the Fig Tree withered. Jesus is teaching us to be patience and believe when we pray. Hence why the narrative of prayer is included in the story of the Fig Leaves in verse 22 to 26 of Mark 11.
The point of the Fig Leaf with regards to prayer is to believe that it will happen, that is why Christ demonstrated this and it happened.
The third Revelation is found in Luke 13:1-9. It's talking about God reaching out to Israel (Fig tree speaks of Israel spiritual life, Vineyard speaks God's chosen own). It is symbolic. The Man who fertilize speaks of Christ. God has been reaching out to Israel and they rejected Him. If you have spiritual eyes to see..God has been patience. God reasoned, for 3 years which could also symbolically mean 3000 years, If they keep rejecting Him, they will perish and yet Christ petition for 1 more year. God is not willing for any of them to perish.
So what is the connection to Christ cursing the Fig Leaves?
After the Fall, Man have been trying everything in self effort to provide, to justify, to cover themselves as how Adam & Eve did when they fell. Let me tell you something. Whatever Man tries to do in their self effort, there will never be fruits because All things in creation has fallen and Man lives in a fallen world. People who continue to reject Christ (God) will be cut off when Day of Judgement comes.
The Bible specifically says, Apart from Christ, we can do nothing and whatever we do, will not bear Fruit. (John 15:5) So the revelation of Christ cursing the Fig Tree here means that the struggle of self ends with Christ. Everyone who receive Christ and when the believer depends on Christ, God promise there will be fruits. The Point is; All Self must end. And the Bible mentions We have died when we accept Christ. Our New Identity is in Christ. Until we walk in that revelation, the fruit will be slow. But when Self Dies...Life in God thrives!
I pray that God will give you this revelation.
God Bless you and your family.
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