in that case, do you believe our world has only existed for 6000 years?

I personally think our world is older than that. If our world is 6000 years, then what we learnt in history are wrong.

still remember all those zaman paleotik neolitik?

but they say certain things require that long to be what it is today.

For example, petroleum. if my memory serves me right, it's carcasses of the sea animals that took thousand or even million of years to be petroleum.

I don't agree on your statement. I don't believe Satan can overpowered the powerful God's words and cover-up events happening in other parts of the world except just Egypt, Israel and Jordan.
I did ask myself this question as well dozens and dozens of times. I did even ask pastors but unfortunately most of them just try to twist the question and answer something else.
In fact, TS question has been challenging my faith for quite some years.

I don't agree on your statement. I don't believe Satan can overpowered the powerful God's words and cover-up events happening in other parts of the world except just Egypt, Israel and Jordan.
I did ask myself this question as well dozens and dozens of times. I did even ask pastors but unfortunately most of them just try to twist the question and answer something else.
In fact, TS question has been challenging my faith for quite some years.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just trying to understand your view.
Your proposition is if there's no God, life over billion of years isn't possible. So for life to continually sustain over billion of years, there must exist a God. I understand this much.

But I'm still lost, how does it connect to the Young Earth's plausibility?

*Please note that I'm not here for debate. I just got curious after seeing your post on that one lol. After your reply, I was thinking could God exist and there still be 4.6 billion year old Earth?

Couldn't God exist and there still be 4.5 billion years old Earth?

Thanks for your reply.
But I still couldn't get it why Jesus allows those incidents to be covered-up?
Yes, Jesus did allow evil spirit to happen... but why not just document everything in the Bible? Then, only we as humans will see whether to accept and follow it or not.

BTW, currently I am going FGA church once a month.

I personally think Science and God can both co-exist.

Science teaches us how His creation work. I buy the idea of 'old earth' more.

sun and moon only created on the fourth day. How do we know the days before was measured in 24 hours?

I think RC Sproul gives a very good explaination on salvation and works.

Catholics teach that salvation = faith + works

Many false teachers will say salvation = faith alone

This gives many people a false security that they can believe in Jesus and keep on living their sinful lives thinking they are saved, aka salvation without lordship to Christ.

And then other people will attack people who teach the Lordship of Christ as a works-salvation.

But at the heart of the issue, the scripture really teaches this : true faith = salvation + works

If you have no works, you still love your sins, you have no salvation.

Not only will this shake the faith of those people (who thinks that they are saved for raising their hands during altar call), but will encourage the true belivers that their faith is real because their works are visible.

Hope all are clear on this.

Just for discussion sake.

Not here to disagree or agree with any denomination.

Say if a person says the sinners prayer, confess and accept Christ as Lord and Savior but later lives a contradictory sinful lifestyle or doesn't go to Church anymore and doesn't really live a Christian life as how brother Thomas ask, is He saved?

Let us discuss this;

I think either something is wrong with the way how the Gospel is shared..either it's incomplete  or the person didn't fully understand what was shared.

Now understand that I'm against Sin. UW is 100% against Sin. But how We overcome sin...this is where I differ from others.

But back to this dilemma, when we share the gospel, we need to tell the person, Christ died for you, He was judged and punished for your sins, If you put your faith in Him as your Savior & Lord, You are saved; sin is wrong, it's what corrupts the person and it's what separate the person from God, because God is holy. On Judgement day, any person who is still separated from God will be judged according to what He has done or said. Now I'm not God so I'm in no position to say God will send the person to Hell or Heaven, we don't know what the person did, only God knows.

But I will say this, any person who reject Christ will come under judgement. Most translation use the word condemned in John 3:18 but the Greek Word there is Krino which is Judgement...meaning will be tried. 
Condemned means you are judged guilty. Whichever I leave that to your thoughts.

To be fair, the Bible does give chance to the person who wants to be justified by the Law (Performance base) under the New Testament but on the condition, you are bound completely to fully comply, break just 1 law is as good as breaking all of it. And the next condition is, there's no Grace for you. You cannot have both, can't have both the cake and still want to eat it. Bible is very clear on this in Romans 11:6. Jesus also said you cannot mix new wine into old wine skin, He was referring that you cannot mix both the old Testament covenant with the New Covenant, Law and Grace.

Now, the best of the Old Testament, King David whom God call a Man after his own Heart failed to uphold the law perfectly, what makes you think you can? What makes you think anybody can?

So back to the scenario, Either we fail to explain properly, you need to turn away from sin and that's it, never explain how [it's impossible for you to do that in your strength, you need to believe for the power of the HS to change you from inside], just tell him to "repent" , the person tried to live the Christian Life, failed then later find it impossible and  gives up, then loses Faith or the person wasn't really born again in the beginning, He/She may say the sinners prayer but never fully comprehend What Christ did for Him and why Sin is wrong, thing like that.

What if the person fully understand the Gospel, said the sinners prayer and yet live a contradictory lifestyle? I will say there's no such thing. Because if you fully understand the gospel, you will also understand you need a Savior, so when the person said the sinners prayer with understanding, You accept Christ, you have the Holy Spirit in your life, He will convict you and the person will feel very uneasy on sinning.

What if such a person who accepted Christ and have the Holy Spirit but refuse to submit and wants to sin? Then I will say, either the person don't understand sin is wrong or we never tell him/her it's wrong.

So the scenario would mean for a person who said the sinners prayer but leave church and live contradictory lifestyle either the person has never really been born again or there's incomplete Gospel being shared.

What if the person understands sin is wrong, have accepted Christ, wants to live right but find himself failing and yet still has his/her faith in Christ, still comes to Church, still study the Bible, Still trying to live the Christian Life...I would say this person is still save, because He knows his Salvation is in his savior not himself. This is where I differ from other people.

Edit: Can such a believer as above be changed? Definitely can.

Thank you. this really does put my heart at ease.

It really fills me with anxiety when people go "you have to put your faith by living right, otherwise you're not truly saved."

There are a lot of things that I want to do, or think I should do, but I just can't get past the first step. So it's a spiral of angst and anxiety of not living up to standards.

It's the main reason why I dare not go to church anymore. The cycle had become unbearable. I know it's bad and the worst thing to do, but... I just can't.

There's one thing I don't understand. Why is there so much rage against One Saved Always Saved? People calling it demonic doctrine and so on

Edited for clarification

Again, im not preaching works-salvation.

Im just saying justification and sanctification goes hand in hand. You cannot have justification without sanctification.

I think though not every translation is perfect, let just say we need all the translation for reference because we can never stick to just one translation.

Some people tells me NIVUK ver is more accurate. , Some people tells me New King James is better, Some prefer The Message translation.

What is safe, refer back to the Greek and Hebrew.

Biblehub.com can help you because it has most of the major translation.

Actually in Biblehub.com, you can click on the Hebrew/Greek page for each scripture verse and can further click on each hebrew / greek (depending OT or NT) word for the meaning. In there it will also tell you which other verse in scripture those words apply so it's hard to go wrong.

For example

http://biblehub.com/text/genesis/1-1.htm
you can see the most left side column, you can check each line. Once you go in there, you can see on the most right hand column which other verse apply of the same word used.

Then from there, you can also check with all the english translations available. (of course you have to come out to the main page)

Hope that helps.

Methodist is part of protestant, protestant has many denominations AOG, BAPTIST, PRESBYTERIAN, ANGLICAN, METHODIST, etc

As to why so many denominations churches under protestant, I have no answer for that for now

Got an interesting question come across my mind.
If a person is brain death, it is consider dead in Christianity? It is consider death in malaysia law, how about Christianity?
Can we just terminate the life of a brain death person?

Can't find any answers in Google.

Jesus was born on September 11, 3 B.C.

In the 1st month, month of Tishri, the 1st day of the month.

Feast of Trumpets as well.

Regards
King David was born in Jewish year 2854 and died in Jewish year 2924, and 2854 + 2924 = 5778.

Regards

I was speaking in resposne to this:
Read again, I never asserted any numbers of any sort. Some misunderstanding maybe. I've found that many christians are very fond and yet certain of written history, their dates, and intricate details of their life.