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 LYN Christian Fellowship V13 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.

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SUSHoka Nobasho
post Mar 4 2018, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Mar 4 2018, 12:48 PM)
Thanks for the heads up...
It's still an interesting discussion and fellowship in which some of us have not met for at least 15 years.
Some of their questions still lingering my mind now tho..
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No problem. Should you need any help about those questions, you can lay it out so that we can see what they're all about, so that you don't need to shoulder those burdens yourself. I'm an atheist myself, and I should be able to understand what are some of the questions that are asked by atheists.
SUSHoka Nobasho
post Mar 5 2018, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 5 2018, 09:43 AM)
Atheists are different animal.
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Nope, both atheists and theists are homosapiens, which is why there are Christians who are ex-Christians who became an atheist and vice versa, while being the same species in the animal kingdom.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 5 2018, 09:43 AM)
They are called A-theist for a reason. That they reject the concept of Theos. So they approach everything with this mindset.
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Nope, atheists do not reject the concept, we merely do not believe in it. It would be like saying we reject the concept of the invisible pink unicorn when it's clear that we merely do not believe in it in the first place to even have the capacity to reject or accept the concept at all.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 5 2018, 09:43 AM)
Next they will try to use 'science' to justify their reasoning not knowing that their 'science' is also a belief system as science is based on numerous ASSumptions in itself. Therefore one needs to 'believe' the ASSumptions to get to the perceived conclusions.
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Nope. Not all atheists use science as reasoning. Simple examples include Buddhist atheists who uses the spiritual teachings of Buddhism as a guide i life as opposed to the belief of an existence of a god or gods.

The second nope here is that science is not a belief system based on assumptions It is a method of investigating reality by testing hypotheses in order to ensure that the withstand the veracity of claims so that whenever they're being tested, it is shown to be true. Science is also not dogmatic like a "belief system" as new evidence can overturn any previous scientific understanding, and then move on with the new understanding thanks to the new evidence.

As a matter of fact, we are doing science everyday without the need to be in a lab. Whenever you test something in order to verify its authenticity and to verify it predictability as well, you are proving that the scientific method works, which is what we do whenever we try to test something in our everyday lives.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 5 2018, 09:43 AM)
So Yeah, short of God appearing to them personally, you will have a hard time to reason with them unless they are serious in seeking like the 'free thinkers'.
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That depends on whether if atheists believe in a god or not, but if they do, then they wouldn't be called an atheist anymore, wouldn't it?

SUSHoka Nobasho
post Mar 6 2018, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 5 2018, 02:19 PM)
You forget to add that ex Atheist who were SErious in finding out, managed to rationally argued their way to becoming Christians.
I am not referring to your biological specie, but to your worldview and mindset.
You should de construct my paragraph to make an out of context statement.
Well, this is not about the invisible pink unicorn. Did you read about Jesus in its context? Or you just rejected it without research?
OR you just like to take scriptures verse and make God as a blood thirsty, vengeful being? 


Most Atheists would use science as the evidence to the absence of God.

Most tests have its own set of assumptions.
Yeah...science is a changing chameleon, depending on its controlling environment and what suits it.
God's TRUTH is unchanging. Its absolute and non moving, non dependat on MAN's moods and evil desires. That's the reason it is dependable and trustworthy because the originator is not a chameleon.
An Atheist who believes in God is an oxymoron.  Well, they always say, "if God showed Himself, then I may believe"
Well, He did in Jesus Christ.  Go and research as a scientist and then conclude.
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I would love to correct the massive and blatant misconceptions and the misinformation here about atheists, but this is the Christian Lounge, and we think we shouldn't discuss about atheism here. Would you like to continue our discussion in the LYN Atheist and Agnostics thread instead?


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