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post Jul 11 2017, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 10 2017, 04:46 PM)
I have a problem.

I'm getting incredibly bitter at people who had hurt me, and yet have a much more successful life. It's worse because i work so hard with so little returns.

I'm aware that someone else could be thinking the same about me. That in their eyes, I'm the successful one.
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I think it may help to detach from comparing yourself or to be concern with other people. It maybe hard but sometime we just have to do it.

This is supported by scripture as well, hence it's the life we are to live.


John 21:20-22 (NIV) - Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them. He was the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper to ask, “Lord, who is going to betray You?” When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?” Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain until I return, what is that to you? You follow Me!”


1 Thessalonians 4:11 (NIV) - and to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life: You should mind your own business and work with your hands, just as we told you,

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post Jul 11 2017, 10:26 AM

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Why we are stuck.

Hebrews 6:1 (NIV) - Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God,

This verse is saying, we need to move on but many times we are harping on and repeating the same old same old..always revolving about our struggles with sin. The contention on this subject..is that some voice tells us we must be sin conscious all the time when fact of the matter Christ came to make us clean. I beg to differ, my bible tells me we need to be Righteous conscious in Christ all the time. The context has to do with Salvation (elementary teachings about Christ), the verse talks about repentance and of Faith in God, meaning difficulty in changing our mind (repentance) and believing in God (Faith) for whatever reasons.

We are not moving forward towards maturity or progress...the Much more portion of the abundant life God has in store for us.

This verse starts with a "Therefore" so it means the preceding verse is related, so let's take a look in hebrews 5, what it's all about. In hebrews 5, it talks about not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness (Verse 13).

I submit to you, this is the key reason why we are not able to move on to maturity. It has to do with righteousness. The truth of the new covenant...the way God instituted, we are credit righteousness on the basis of our Faith but too often we hear voices condemning us...we are not doing right before God or we are not doing enough. The legality and religious spirit which IMO is not what God wants in the believer's life is one of the reason why believers life are stifled. I've encountered enough opposition to know this.

My ministry is to unveil this truth from your blinded eyes and ears. You may confess with you mouth you know you're righteous by Faith but deep down inside, you still believe your actions matters to being righteous.

Until we learn to rest in Faith that God no longers sees us in our performance to be justified before him, until we learn we don't have to be who we are not in order to please God but to be our true self and allow God to touch us where we are, there can be no change, we will keep on repeating this cycle of elementary life not able to be taken forward to maturity. The point of hebrews 6:1 is that there is the Much portion of the Gospel, the abundant life God promised in John 10:10. Think about it, why it's called "elementary".

This much more portion has been very much attacked and persecuted because the devil knows it threatened his evil kingdom. The Devil hates it when a Christian is set free from being oppressed into a joyful state..in a way Life has meaning and can be enjoyed.

I pray the Lord gives you this revelation. God Bless.


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post Jul 11 2017, 03:38 PM

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Netanyahu reads from Bible to prove Hebron’s Tomb of Patriarchs is Jewish

https://worldisraelnews.com/netanyahu-quote...roves-un-wrong/

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu read passages from the Bible during Sunday’s weekly Cabinet meeting as a refutation of Friday’s resolution passed by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) World Heritage Committee designating the Tomb of the Patriarchs and Hebron a Palestinian heritage site.

“I would like to read from Genesis 23:16-19: ‘And Abraham hearkened unto Ephron; and Abraham weighed to Ephron the silver, which he had named in the hearing of the children of Heth, four hundred shekels of silver, current money with the merchant…And after this, Abraham buried Sarah his wife in the cave of the field of Machpelah before Mamre–the same is Hebron–in the land of Canaan. And the field, and the cave that is therein, were made sure unto Abraham for a possession of a burying-place by the children of Heth,'” Netanyahu read.

“The connection between the Jewish People and Hebron and the Tomb of the Patriarchs is one of purchase and of history which may be without parallel in the history of peoples,” Netanyahu declared.



“Of course this did not prevent the UNESCO World Heritage Committee last Friday from passing yet another delusional resolution which determined that the Tomb of the Patriarchs, the same Cave of Machpelah, is a Palestinian heritage site,” the Israeli premier derided the resolution.

Netanyahu explained that in wake of this resolution, he has decided to cut an additional $1 million from Israel’s UN membership dues and transfer the funds to the establishment of “The Museum of the Heritage of the Jewish People in Kiryat Arba and Hebron.” The money will also serve additional heritage initiatives related to Hebron.

He tasked Minister of Jerusalem Affairs and Heritage Ze’ev Elkin with submitting a proper proposal on this matter.

“Against UNESCO’s denial, Israel will present to the world the historical truth and the Jewish People’s deep connection – of thousands of years – to Hebron just as we did with UNESCO’s other delusional decision regarding the absence of a connection to Jerusalem,” Netanyahu vowed.



After UNESCO previously passed Muslim-sponsored resolutions denying the Jewish connection to Jerusalem and the Old City, Israel reduced its UN dues.


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Epic Way to Give Away A Daughter at Her Wedding
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post Jul 11 2017, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 11 2017, 07:21 PM)
My hard work depend on popularity. No popularity = no people = nobody buy my stuff sad.gif

A lot of blood, sweat, and tears went into it. The lack of recognition makes me really bitter. And angry.

edit: ugh I'm really not going to be able to explain this right. I'm feeling overshadowed by someone who had hurt me and other friends in the past. They're not even doing it as a professional work. Me, on the other hand, doing thing professional... and borderline forgotten.
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Okay, I hear you.
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post Jul 12 2017, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(leekangtao @ Jul 12 2017, 11:23 AM)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation_i...Christian_World

Can christian people after death being cremated coz no money?
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Nothing wrong with cremation.
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post Jul 12 2017, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(leekangtao @ Jul 12 2017, 11:30 AM)
but in bible. we are created by sand and should go to sand too liao. what can you explain about that verse?
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Not sand. Ground of the Earth. Bible called it dust.

Nothing. When you die, your spirit is what is important, our body decay and returns back Earth in minute particles.

Don't see what is the problem.
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post Jul 12 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(leekangtao @ Jul 12 2017, 12:48 PM)
where is our spirit when we died?

Spirit go to hell can die liao?
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Return back to God for judgement.
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post Jul 12 2017, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(leekangtao @ Jul 12 2017, 01:00 PM)
so our spirit is sleep before the judgement?
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There is a first death and second death.

First Death would involve Paradise and Hades. This is where our spirit reside until the second coming of Christ.

When Christ comes back again and after the millennial rule, the great tribulation, etc.....There will be the final Judgement when Earth and Heaven gives up all the dead for Judgement.

Second Death would involve New Heaven & Earth and the Lake of Fire.

I will only tell you what the Bible records. Anyone who is not found in the book of Life will be thrown into the Lake of Fire and those who are found will inherit their Salvation to be with God forever.

The Bible uses the term "sleep" is for meant for the believers because in essence we have pass over from death to life. For the unbelievers, separation from God, eternal torment.


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post Jul 13 2017, 09:32 AM

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Why is it, at time the word of God doesn't take effect for some believers.

It's because the person is still in the learning process.

I feel the Lord wants me to share this.

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My advise, don't feel bad, keep on learning and persevering in faith.

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post Jul 13 2017, 11:10 AM

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God wants you to live!

John 3:14 (NIV) - Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,

In this passage, our Lord Christ Jesus was talking about the incident when the israelites complaint against God, and God withdrew his protection, venomous snakes came in to bite and many died. Then the people approach Moses asking him to pray to God to take away the snakes.

Interestingly God answered but He did not take away the snake, instead He told moses to build a bronze snake on a pole and said..whoever looks at this bronze snake will live and interestingly the bible recorded in the next instance whenever someone was bitten but looked at the bronze snake he lived. This tells me, the snakes was still around even after Moses Prayer.

In the Hebrew word, the snakes was recorded as fiery serpents. Some translation use poison/venomous/ burning, etc. Whatever it is, the root word is haś·śə·rā·p̄îm which another occurance happened in Isaiah 6:6 where an Angel of God took burning coals to touch the lips of prophet Isaiah.

The point of John 3:14, is that when the people of God was afflicted, they were told to look at the bronze serpent on a pole and they lived. Jesus refer a likeness to what Moses did as the bronze serpent. When people look to Christ and believed, they too shall Live and not die.

Friends, God came to give us Life and not death. Never conclude evil affliction as the will of God so that you will die. God will is for you to LIVE! Even when the Israelites sinned against God and was punished by their own Fault, God in his Love still wants them to Live...else what is the point of creating that bronze serpent on a pole?

We must repent in our mind and be convinced God loves us and want us to have life and not only that Life more abundant as declared in John 10:10.

I pray that God will give you this revelation, that you may take that step of Faith to believe God is willing to heal if you have been afflicted in life for whatever condition.

Jesus was symbolically the bronze serpent as to the people of Israel back in Moses time. All they had to do was look and they lived, what more we who have the real substance, not the shadow but the lamb of God who came to give us life. Can we look to Christ, believe and live?

God Bless.


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post Jul 13 2017, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 13 2017, 05:35 PM)
Aah the bronze snake. I remember reading about its comparison with Jesus before.

I want to ask about what's the proper interpretation of the talents parable?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comme...comment/dk5ob04

From this thread there are people convinced that it means if you don't use your talents for Jesus, you'll go to Hell even if you believe His work on the cross.

rclxub.gif everything also masuk neraka.

So if it's nothing about salvastion, what does the parable of the servants and talents actually talk about?
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What does the very beginning words of Matthew 25:1 tells you?

What Age is it?
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post Jul 13 2017, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 13 2017, 08:05 PM)
I don't know actually. That's another one of those verses that made my head spin. Is that the end times?
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Yes the parables of the talents is in the context of tribulation period ...that's why Matthew 25:1 writes like this;

At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like...meaning it's a different gospel dispensation...not the same as what we have now..which is the gospel of God's grace.

This will happen after we are raptured up.

Those who are left behind are new believers who will have it the hard way...hence the meaning of the parable if you don't value the talents given, all will be taken away.

That's why it's called tribulation....it will tough for believers in that age.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 13 2017, 09:19 PM)
The future is scary sweat.gif Don't know where we'd end up and so on.
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In the matter of your Salvation, have the Faith, have the confidence because it's God who promised.

If it was man's promise, you and I would be right to be concern on the future as what you said.
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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Jul 14 2017, 07:40 AM)
Hi Unknown Warrior,

Are Christians guaranteed to heaven?

What if this Christian truly believes in Jesus, yet he does many evil things?
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Christian by definition means one who follows Christ hence Christ.."tians". To follow Christ would also mean to heed what Christ says about evil things, to understand that it is not right to do such thing because it is destructive and it destroys. God wants us to be in a place where people live in love and harmony hence the act of evil cannot be.

There's no such thing as one who follows Christ and yet does many evil things. Thus it would make no sense to say Christian who believe in Jesus and yet does many evil thing, it's like saying God delights in evil.

So Yes Christians are guaranteed by GOD to heaven, it's not just guaranteed just like that without the one who makes the guarantee involved.

The foundation is the cross, that is the divine justification why we are guaranteed to Heaven because someone qualified has pay a dear price for our entrance.

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post Jul 14 2017, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Jul 14 2017, 09:10 AM)
I believe those people do exist.

For example, Guan Yu is a popular deity worshiped by Chinese triads. Similarly, why can't a person does evil things and go back to Jesus and call himself a Christian?
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I understand your question. We have people who proclaim to be Christians and yet live double life but my point is;

People who don't really understand the gospel is the core problem.

In most Church setting that I know of, whenever the gospel is shared and invitation to accept Christ are given out, the mention of the problem of sin and why we need to stop pursuing sin and that we need a saviour is usually explained.

If the person choose to ignore the sin part but prefer to just take on the saviour part, he/she has not really understood the gospel message and it's more than that.

It saddens me some Church hardly explain, on our own strength, it is impossible to turn away from sin. They just enforce you need to turn away. That has caused untold condemnation and guilt when one tries and fail. And one other matter is that..some Church hardly expound the Love of God that will cause the believers fall in love with God and let the love of sin go, they just force you to "love" god without even explaining what did God do. And there's some that is even worse, the mention of Jesus is not even there, what more the Cross that has remove and wash our sins away.

So the focus has gone down to what Man must do or not do, which makes it the worse by the lot. In such scenario, yes there maybe people subscribing to Jesus and yet does many evil things, as what you've said. You may say it's person own fault but I point it to incomplete preaching to move people to repentance.

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post Jul 14 2017, 08:14 PM

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biatche have you read page 1 of this thread?
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post Jul 15 2017, 07:21 PM

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There's a reason why This thread is called Christian Fellowship thread. All the Christians in here already believe in God for so many years, we have lived our life as Christians for so many year. This place is for us to gather because we have similar interest which is our belief in God Almighty.

Who are you and What makes you think you can throw the word "deceiving" as if you knew our lives or you know us in person?

So refrain from using the word "deceiving" when you are the one who is out of place, don't even know what he's talking, what more abusing his welcome stay.

If it gives you the pleasure to argue, you're welcome to do it in other threads but not here.

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post Jul 15 2017, 07:38 PM

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Not going to bother.

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post Jul 15 2017, 07:57 PM

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