Welcome Julee.

Hi welcome

UW, don't use Photobucket anymore. Now they want to charge money for basic service.

Use http://imgur.com instead

This post has been edited by Sophiera: Dec 23 2017, 04:52 PM

It's Christmas season!

And so happen they released this vid.

Hey, while I was discussing Jesus with BF, we found these two geneologies

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...w+1&version=NIV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+3:23-38

I only know that Matthew is a Jew and Luke is not, so their way of writing genealogies may differ.

So why is Luke's list different from Matthew?

Merry Christmas everyone!

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank every single one of you who willing to spend your time answering my questions.

Really appreciate it and may God bless you today and always

thanks.

Hello welcome to the fellowship, feel be at home when you're here

Which church are you currently attending right now?

The Battle belongs to God

Deuteronomy 3:22 (NIV) - 'Do not fear them, for the LORD your God is the one fighting for you.'


What is your battle in life? Take this verse to heart, believe it, declare it, pray it and see God deliver your enemies out!

Scripture is God's word. A promise given to only people who has believed in Christ as Lord and Saviour.

[Verse 1]
When you're at the end of the road
And it's not the one that you would have chosen
When you're at the end of your rope
And you're holding on, but feel like you're falling

[Pre-Chorus]
With every option exhausted
You've tried everything you know
You saw a light then you lost it
But there is still hope

[Chorus]
Like the fire in the night
Like the ocean parted wide
Like the grave, empty inside
You will see He still does
Miracles, miracles, miracles, miracles

[Verse 2]
Even if you don't see it now
Without a doubt, He's already moving
There is not a pain that you hold
He doesn't know, and He isn't using

[Pre-Chorus]
With every option exhausted
You've tried everything you know
So reach for something beyond it
'Cause He is our hope

[Chorus]
Like the fire in the night
Like the ocean parted wide
Like the grave, empty inside
You will see He still does
Miracles, miracles, miracles, miracles
Miracles, miracles, miracles, miracles

[Bridge]
A broken heart can be restored
A broken soul can be reborn
And greater things are still in store
For us, for us

[Chorus]
Like the fire in the night
Like the ocean parted wide
Like the grave empty inside
You will see He still does
Miracles, miracles
Miracles, miracles
Miracles, miracles
(He still does, He still does)
Miracles, miracles
Miracles, miracles
(More than you can dare to dream)
Miracles, miracles
(More than you have ever seen)
Miracles, miracles
(There's still more, there's still more)
Miracles, miracles
(Miracles)

[Outro]
(Miracles, miracles)

Thanks for sharing something so amazing.

Have been attending churches for few years and these are what I have seen. I really do not understand why some people against the idea of going to church.

They say it's a scam but i can be very sure to tell you that the churches i attended to did not scam me a single penny from me. They were just equally happy even I decided not to donate.

This post has been edited by NicoRobinz: Dec 27 2017, 09:18 AM

2 Corinthians 4:4 (NIV) - The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.



The verse above helps us to understand why. The (small letter) god there as we know is satan. he has planted through the ages.... in all kind of seed (doubt, hatred, etc) into the heart and mind of unbelievers and even have the gumption trying.............. (so to speak) "scam" believers (baby christians) against God, against christianity, christians and the church. And that god of the world will hold fast to every unbeliever in bondage...he will not let go so easily. <----It's a warfare.

This is something they do not see and realize because they are also under the bondage of sin..thus making them blind and oblivious. You can see this in the way how they think of us.

They do not even understand the hostility, why they hate God. They think they do but if one would really think deep about it, they have no real reason.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 27 2017, 10:40 AM

Different targeted audience.

One is towards the jews (Mathew account) and One is towards the Gentiles (Luke account).

Matthew emphasizes on Christ as the seed of Abraham and the legal heir of David, the long–awaited King of Israel who would ultimately restore his people from exile. (Jewish perspective)

Luke, emphasizes to the first Adam, thus making the point... Christ as the Second Adam, the key/gateway salvation, the Savior of all humanity. (Gentile perspective).

Hence why the order of the genealogy is different.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 27 2017, 11:32 AM

I understand if an atheist/unbeliever try to disprove Christianity when it's being promoted to them. I would probably do the same if you tell me to follow your practice out of nowhere. However, I wouldn't create a thread just to tell how BS that is.

It's also funny how people always say that churches are good in brainwashing people. LOL. In fact, the person who is afraid of going to church because of this reason is the one to have been brainwashed. I was one of them, afraid of being brainwashed by pastors but I feel regret that I didn't go to church earlier now.

If I did, I might not have done so many mistakes in my life. There was a time that I even tried to suicide but thank God, it was a failed attempt (that was also the time I started going to church). I know what people have been saying behind my back, weak, pussy, strawberry generation but other than these, there's no one that's really willing to help (other than family members of course).

Therefore, call me a delusional person to believe in fairy tale if you like. I certainly do not mind because I know this 'fairy tale God' is much more willing to help than those who really did exist in this world. The persons who should be ashamed aren't Christians but those who only know how to judge others.

Before I started going to church, I always heard some Christians said how they wish they could get to know Jesus earlier. At that time, I thought it was just an exaggeration to promote Christianity. Now I know it's true because i feel the same way.

This post has been edited by NicoRobinz: Dec 27 2017, 11:38 AM

Actually it wouldn't matter. As long as the person has been separated from God, the nature of the flesh in that person will exhibit a sort of a hostility against God. Even if the person feels... has nothing against God, he/she will find God, Christianity, Salvation does not make much sense.

The reason why a person would go to the extend of opening a thread..even to confront in real life, (may get physical even) tells the sign of being in deep/great bondage.

Such a person would need deliverance as his mind is already pass the verge of rationality, being manipulated by the evil one.

As Christians we need to understand the fight is NEVER against flesh and blood but is always primarily against spiritual forces, principalities, etc.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 27 2017, 11:57 AM

Where sin increased, grace hyper-increased

Romans 5:20 (NIV) - The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,

There is provision of abounding grace where sin increases. Why? Because for the believer, the blood of Jesus Christ is divine redemption, it is the blood of both Eternal God and Man..not the blood of bulls and goat where provision is temporal. The Redemption of Christ is not wish-wash but eternal. It is divine blood!

Believers may sin, but they fall in the Ark of God's covenant. While Noah was in the ark..though the waves may rock the boat, but they all were safe, though they may trip..but they trip in the Ark.

I pray the Holy Spirit gives you this divine revelation.

"Grace Is Enough"

I can boast to many works
Done out of insecurity
And credit many conversations
To my immaturity
And while I’m misunderstood
You are understanding me
And showing me
How grace is enough

For everything that I’ve done right
Seems like a thousand I’ve done wrong
And I keep on losing count
Of all the times my flesh has won
And when the light of Christ that’s in me
Is overshadowed by the fall
You’re showing me
How grace is enough

When I feel unworthy
And so undeserving

[Chorus:]
Still I can come, just as I am
For I find Your love
Is free of condition
So I will run to Your wide open arms
Where I am accepted
And I am forgiven
Grace is enough for me
Your grace is enough for me

I’ve been quick at passing judgment
When I’m worthy of conviction
And the times I’ve measured virtue
Only based on my religion
But theology it seems
It’s not the things that’s saving me
Your are showing me
A grace that’s enough

When I feel unworthy
And so undeserving

[Chorus]

[Bridge:]
Though I was blind, now I see
Sweet is the sound
Of Your grace over me
You said it all on the Cross
Your grace goes beyond
All that I’ve done

When I feel unworthy
And so undeserving
You love me beyond
All my failing and hurting
It’s not who I am
But who I can be
And I know You are working
Your purpose in me

[Chorus]

Your grace is enough
More than enough
Your grace is enough for me

That's such a sweet song

I can already imagine many Christians having problems with this song though

I like the phrase

But theology it seems
It’s not the things that’s saving me
Your are showing me
A grace that’s enough


Theology cannot save..the Grace of God..in what Christ did can.