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 LYN Christian Fellowship V13 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.

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post Jun 27 2017, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jun 27 2017, 08:50 PM)
Kesian. That guy lawan people for no reason then...
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Let us not waste time talking about other people but to spend time talking about our Lord Jesus Christ. smile.gif
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post Jun 27 2017, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 27 2017, 09:43 PM)
Let us not waste time talking about other people but to spend time talking about our Lord Jesus Christ.  smile.gif
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Betul

Ah for those who have paypal money, there's this charity that gives directly to people in need. I'll paste the link here if anyone's interested.

https://www.givedirectly.org/


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post Jun 27 2017, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jun 27 2017, 09:46 PM)
Betul

Ah for those who have paypal money, there's this charity that gives directly to people in need. I'll paste the link here if anyone's interested.

https://www.givedirectly.org/
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I still think we're on the right track and God is watching over us...our fellowship. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 27 2017, 11:21 PM

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I wonder if myway is okay now...
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post Jun 28 2017, 11:40 AM

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I think it's time wasting to argue with non-believers on the bible. The unregenerate has no hope of ever seeing the truth.

Just like to encourage believers on the accuracy of the scripture:

http://patternsofevidence.com

Think I have mentioned this here before, we are seeing more archaeological evidences of the events in the bible.

The director is making another doco on moses, cant't wait.

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QUOTE(thomasthai @ Jun 28 2017, 11:40 AM)
I think it's time wasting to argue with non-believers on the bible. The unregenerate has no hope of ever seeing the truth.

Just like to encourage believers on the accuracy of the scripture:

http://patternsofevidence.com

Think I have mentioned this here before, we are seeing more archaeological evidences of the events in the bible.

The director is make another doco on moses, cant't wait.
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We're not suppose to argue with them, just share and leave it to their discretion.

I think what happened is beyond arguing but...... end up throwing punches like a bar fight, laugh.gif
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post Jun 29 2017, 08:53 AM

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Where does sin gets its strength from?


Romans 7:8 (NIV) - But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead.

When you preach the Law or when you put demands on believers, "you must do this or do that to appease God", this is like adding wood to fire where the act of sin will explode. There is no stopping it when Law is magnified.

We all think that the works of the devil is synonym with things prostitutes, murderers, robbery....true as it maybe but those are not the greatest deception. Those are the works of lower minions of the evil one. The greatest deception of the devil are the works behind the pulpit. He'll come to you as an angel of light, preaching strongly on the Law. There are some sermons you hardly hear the blood of Jesus or about Jesus preached.

2 Corinthians 11:14 tells us in the KJV

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

The word End there in the Greek is "telos" which means that the preaching's purpose or goal is according to "works".

Why?

Because the devil knows Romans 7:8. Apart from the Law, sin was dead but the flipside will be true, Expound on the Law, Sin comes alive. That is why whenever you hear people saying "you must be righteous before God hears your prayer" are the preaching of the Law..where Satan can use to put people in bondage, as we have evidently encounter in this forum, the spirit behind it.

The only antidote to this is to move away from the Law as much as possible and look to Grace. Complete and abundance Grace is the only power that God has given to the believer for freedom.

Why?

Because Grace dismantle all qualification. It causes you to be vulnerable to God's mercy and goodness and that is something good! Why? Because in there, the devil cannot get you and God is able to hold you completely. I pray the Holy Spirit will give you this revelation.

God Bless.



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post Jun 29 2017, 06:39 PM

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Ha, i remember reading that one of the bad teachings had the term "Golawsple" because it's enphasis on the law. I'll share the bigger list when I get on pc.

edit: wait I got it wrong

http://www.christsiouxfalls.org/index.php/...=50:listeners-..

Check this page out. Very interesting stuff. Thoughts about it?

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jun 29 2017, 06:39 PM)
Ha, i remember reading that one of the bad teachings had the term "Golawsple" because it's enphasis on the law. I'll share the bigger list when I get on pc.

edit: wait I got it wrong

http://www.christsiouxfalls.org/index.php/...=50:listeners-..

Check this page out. Very interesting stuff. Thoughts about it?
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The preaching of Christ death and resurrection should result in transformed lives of the believers (any and every aspect, be it healing, deliverance, miracles, etc) otherwise people can say it's just "theoretical religion". As such, testimony of the believers life are equally important as they dismantle and defeat voices and ideology of Satan. (Revelation 12:11)

I think this is where I differ from most other teachers.

As what was written in the link and as mostly taught conventionally the key message focus on the believer of repenting from their sins where I stress on the remissions of sin by the work of Christ.

One focus on self while I try to engage the believer to focus on what Christ did. His blood separated our sins. I believe we need to acknowledge we are sinners but after accepting Christ, the main focus is geared more towards how perfect the work of Christ over our sins and that we are made righteous in Christ. The focus is on the beauty that God has made us in Christ.

But some preachers loves to make believers to always feel dirty and sin conscious..to me that is dishonoring what Christ did and magnifying the work of Adam more than Christ. It's like what Christ did never took off and never really changed the person. That is their mindset which (to me) belongs to the OT covenant preaching. NT is about Christ has delivered us not WIP trying to deliver us.

This is what I believe caused so much argument and hatred towards what I preached and have resulted in another thread created.

They do not understand this revelation.




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post Jun 30 2017, 06:29 PM

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Today's prayer had something that confuses me. It's from Psalm 107

23 Some went down to the sea in ships *
and plied their trade in deep waters;
24 They beheld the works of the LORD *
and his wonders in the deep.
25 Then he spoke, and a stormy wind arose, *
which tossed high the waves of the sea.
26 They mounted up to the heavens and fell back to the depths; *
their hearts melted because of their peril.
27 They reeled and staggered like drunkards *
and were at their wits' end.
28 Then they cried to the LORD in their trouble, *
and he delivered them from their distress.
29 He stilled the storm to a whisper *
and quieted the waves of the sea.
30 Then were they glad because of the calm, *
and he brought them to the harbor they were bound for.
31 Let them give thanks to the LORD for his mercy *
and the wonders he does for his children

Did God cause a storm to demonstrate his saving grace instead of preventing it? If a human tried to cause trouble to show their good later, it would have been called a conspiracy. So i don't get what this means.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jun 30 2017, 06:29 PM)
Today's prayer had something that confuses me. It's from Psalm 107

23  Some went down to the sea in ships *
and plied their trade in deep waters;
24  They beheld the works of the LORD *
and his wonders in the deep.
25  Then he spoke, and a stormy wind arose, *
which tossed high the waves of the sea.
26  They mounted up to the heavens and fell back to the depths; *
their hearts melted because of their peril.
27  They reeled and staggered like drunkards *
and were at their wits' end.
28  Then they cried to the LORD in their trouble, *
and he delivered them from their distress.
29  He stilled the storm to a whisper *
and quieted the waves of the sea.
30  Then were they glad because of the calm, *
and he brought them to the harbor they were bound for.
31  Let them give thanks to the LORD for his mercy *
and the wonders he does for his children

Did God cause a storm to demonstrate his saving grace instead of preventing it? If a human tried to cause trouble to show their good later, it would have been called a conspiracy. So i don't get what this means.
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Rule of the thumb to always remember..under the Old Covenant, people are judged by their deeds against God's Law, failure to obey would bring wrath while the flip side of obedience will bring blessings.

Psalm 107 was most likely written by King David, depicting the lives of Israelite. If you read verse 11...


11 because they rebelled against God’s commands
and despised the plans of the Most High.

You'll get the idea why they're subject to punishment. But despite of their disobedience God was merciful to still love them and rescue them from their own iniquity. By right a just God would mete out Just punishment but the fact the God still rescues them...show the Grace and Mercy of a loving God.

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post Jun 30 2017, 07:12 PM

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Oh i see. Skeptics and ex Christians always bring up the OT as their proof that God is cruel. So knowing the context is comforting.

Another question to ask

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comme...comment/djlitdn

I think this commenter going out of a limb? Whatever i studied of the NT, isn't Church all members of the body of Christ? Of course they support community and encourage people to come together. But to say not going to Church as a building or group makes you not Christian... Seems to me is totally off the mark.

The sole requirement should be the blood of Jesus Christ.
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post Jul 1 2017, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jun 30 2017, 07:12 PM)
Oh i see. Skeptics and ex Christians always bring up the OT as their proof that God is cruel. So knowing the context is comforting.

Another question to ask

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comme...comment/djlitdn

I think this commenter going out of a limb? Whatever i studied of the NT, isn't Church all members of the body of Christ? Of course they support community and encourage people to come together. But to say not going to Church as a building or group makes you not Christian... Seems to me is totally off the mark.

The sole requirement should be the blood of Jesus Christ.
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There are people who can't come to Church because of health reasons. Then what does that makes them?

Just ignore those sort of comments.

As long as the person keeps the relationship with Christ alive and well, continue to trust what Christ has done for the person, follows the command to love one another, don't see why He/She cannot qualify to be a Christian.
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post Jul 1 2017, 09:26 AM

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sceptics like atheists are welcome to come and witness.



30th June, 1July & 2nd July at Kelana Jaya stadium

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post Jul 1 2017, 08:08 PM

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Oh man, all that animated illustration! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 1 2017, 08:08 PM)


Oh man, all that animated illustration! biggrin.gif
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Ancient Jewish Literature helps to give insight...for example, David buried Goliath Head on mount Golgotha which is where the same location Christ was crucified.

Goliath symbolize Satan. Christ cross crushed his head symbolically.




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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 1 2017, 09:26 AM)


sceptics like atheists are welcome to come and witness.
30th June, 1July & 2nd July at Kelana Jaya stadium
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Anyone went for this?
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post Jul 3 2017, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Jul 2 2017, 09:03 PM)
Anyone went for this?
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This many people...sea of multitude.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 3 2017, 08:29 AM)
This many people...sea of multitude.
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Wow, I only saw the pics my church members and friends uploaded but the aerial view.

Glad to see miracles performed and souls saved during this rally.

Praise the Lord!

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