Hi west wing, you need to order his (forum owner and admin) book direct from him or attend one of his seminar.

While we desperately wait for pieces of advise from sifu2 here (from Seeseng, Swiftbuild, West Wing and others) , I can give my 1 cent worth of advise:

1. Swiftlets book, seminars and SMC forum,

In my humble opinion, it is advisable to have a book on swiftlets farming if we are serious in the business. Even though the book is very basic, we my miss and overlook some of very basics in the swiftlets farming. Same goes with seminars. again it is basic for some but it is worth the money if you DIY or you hire a consultant or at at least for networking.

2. Kelvin Heng order

I went to his office last 2 weeks to accompany my friend for a discussion on some of his proposal, I understand now why your order is still outstanding as he is a very busy man now. He only managed to meet my fren for oly 5-10 minutes only. Fyi, he is currently embarking big project on swiftlets eco park in Kuala Krai project and other big projects in the pipelines too.

So some of ouf fren who aleady paid him money, good luck and pls do frequent follow up to get your order delivered.

Excellent point WestWing. Totally agreed with your view. My view is the same. Harry, James, WestWing, Seeseng and the rest are all great SIfus giving great ideas, ideas how to be successful and more successful in BHs farming. They also give great update and ideas on latest technology and updates on swiftlet farming locally and overseas. Keep up with good work.

As`not all Sifus are perfect and not 100% of their bh are succesful as different bh has different strength and weakneses. But they are not 'kedekut' to share their idea, knowledge and findings with the others.

Keep up with good work and continue sharing with the rest. May God bless you guys with more birds and nests. I will always look up to all Sifus out there for guidance and help . Hope more James, Harry, Pak Hen and more Sifus will share and provide kind assistance render in future.

Samgam, yscargo, Of course it is best to put the layer before you tile up your roof tile. However, I think we can also use it after the roof has been installed (post construction) by sticking and knocking it up to the wood below the roof. Need to know and seek your advise whether this way is effective?