Most consultants can't gurantee success yet they're overpriced. Especially the time when you started. My friend got a farm also in Kg Cina hired a consultant from outstation to do 5-6 years ago. Produce some nest but stopped growing since 3-4 years ago until now less than half kg/month. Can't even cover the old house installment.  The farm uses total flat planks without any groove. The sound not attractive at all. 5-6 years ago the same consultant even comment on plaza perdana farm : "If there can have bird I'll chop off my bird! " ....... see how's plaza perdana now doing? One of the top in town.
God bless until now not a single case of bird flu worldwide is related to A.F. yet. Since you can have a nest without sound then it should do well with sound on and other stuffs.

Hi kent,

1 successful n silence farm locate above bata shop at jalan sultan zainal abidin, owner turn off the sound few years back after neighbours complain, seems doing very well with no audio no ding dong.
Looking for motorolla tweeter a rational price, any suggestion guys.

I started collecting bird chirp CDs since few years back. Until recently I took over a failed/gave up mini farm of 18'x45' to renovate. Spent 3 months+ DIY then re-open on 21/7/2007. I treat this as a hobby only. Swiftlet farming is interesting and addictive. Always think of ideas to improve. Sometimes in dreams also about swiftlet farming Read lots of farming books. Bed time reading also farming books... Get as much info online join all the swiftlet forums I can find. Teh tarik discussions, exchange ideas, experiences and sound with kt newbie farmers like me. Also I like to do farm watching. Go up tall buildings to observe other people's farms.

Higher buildings definitely have advantage. But don't be supprise there are double storey old shop house doing better than 4-5 storeys building. There're a few tall farms near the temple. Longer operating history than the 2 storey but the 2 storey is really heavy duty. Monthly 20-30kg but the size is quite big 3 shoplots but only upstair for farming.
Those out of town farms are mostly stand-alone farms. They choose out of town for low profile. Cheaper land, build without permit also small chance bandaran can find out. More and more farms like these in Setiu district and Kuala Berang. These area not many farms some even pioneer farm. Birds that come visit don't have much choice to choose from so stay permanantly chance higher.

My 8 directional tweeter is already up there since 21/7. Want to see can go to water front jetty behind Seri Malaysia sit there can see a DK with the 8 directional tweeter on top.   This morning I just went there big crowd of birds playing around the tweeters. Most of my tweeters are 95cents piezo tweeters. Some connect with condenser capacitors. Sound better but volume become lower. For internal I also use carbon magnetic tweeters sound more natural but volume also lower than piezo.

Nope. wrong guess. The heavy duty double storey doing good not because bird got no choice. This farm is newer than a few taller buildings farms beside temple. It's newer than top floor of old Sony building. Why birds choose the double storey rather than these 4-5 storey building farm? God knows 
Population will sure increase IF you're the only farm in the area. Young birds won't fly to other farms and the farm is in A.F. "food canteen" area. With good sound population will multiply 3x-4x each year. But if there're other farms nearby. Young birds got other choices to choose. Couple birds which built nest before would likely to stay but hatching young birds will go test around for a place it like. There are many farms the number of birds stop growing for many years already when more competitors nearby.

Nope. wrong guess. The heavy duty double storey doing good not because bird got no choice. This farm is newer than a few taller buildings farms beside temple. It's newer than top floor of old Sony building. Why birds choose the double storey rather than these 4-5 storey building farm? God knows 
Population will sure increase IF you're the only farm in the area. Young birds won't fly to other farms and the farm is in A.F. "food canteen" area. With good sound population will multiply 3x-4x each year. But if there're other farms nearby. Young birds got other choices to choose. Couple birds which built nest before would likely to stay but hatching young birds will go test around for a place it like. There are many farms the number of birds stop growing for many years already when more competitors nearby.

The building material normal one lah. As long as desired temperature achieved ok already.  I'm using 1 old china made vcd player and 1 new DVD player with USB port. All cheap cheap one. 2x amplifiers. I know some insist on using Pioneer players and expensive amps. Sifus said that human's over sensitivity not birds'.  Design, powerfulness of sound, strategic placement of tweeters more important.

The building material normal one lah. As long as desired temperature achieved ok already.  I'm using 1 old china made vcd player and 1 new DVD player with USB port. All cheap cheap one. 2x amplifiers. I know some insist on using Pioneer players and expensive amps. Sifus said that human's over sensitivity not birds'.  Design, powerfulness of sound, strategic placement of tweeters more important.

If not run too hot cheap and avoid put inside farm(humid) players can be heavy duty.  Choose those with USB port. Can run flash drives no moving mechanism so less heat longer lifespan. My internal sound running 24/7 on USB drive. Rest 10min every 5 hours. No problem at all. Fan? I have a 12cm standby but not using. Touch with hand only. Not too hot no need to use. Thoese small type new players often run slightly warm only. Old players with big transformer would be quite hot.

My internal amp used both LR channels because many tweeters. External amp not so many tweeters also used both channels. Normally farming sound system got player, amplifier, timer, cable, tweeters.  Got other things? No necessary liao lor. Adjustment knobs amps normally got quite a few lah but volume knob enaugh. Others no need to use. As natural as possible.  hey I saw your farm already. Downstair is mobile phone shop one? Nearby got 2 silence farm leh. Try to pancing the birds from there with sound. Their home no sound you got sound more likely can lure them leh.

You farm sound system should cost around RM300 for the full setup. Any farm got potential just the time to take to have results. Actually Kg. Cina not a good place for new farms now. We may see a lot of birds around this area because it's a bird residential area. Well there are things I shouldn't reveal openly in forum. There're so many without contribution post forumers reading this thread each day. Check out the number of clicks. Tweeters most people using piezo tweeters. Dirt cheap and durable. Proven good enaugh to lure birds but cannot tahan if the amplifier set to high volume. Installation area and numbers of tweeters is very very important. Also another thing I shouldn't reveal here. A teh tarik session then I can tell lah. Jef are you coming for teh tarik?

Just coming back fr kota bharu, Im always ready for teh tarik session, when ? 
Now reading Strategi Jitu Memikat Walet, pak hen magic book  .

I knew I'm taking the risk of being call up by strangers but after people listen to my shared "best sound" they'll think twice before getting some "best" tips I would share   
If they want consultation I'll give them Crystal or Nest Tech number lor.

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Added on August 24, 2007, 1:12 pm
That doesn't mean the MB fully understand this industry. Most probably he only know it's chance to earn only.  This industry should be supported by the agriculture department.

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Added on August 25, 2007, 1:10 amHi bgarcon welcome to the forum. One good thing with AF farming in east Malaysia is low competition at the moment. In general AF farming for good results need few things:
1) Height
2) Designs
3) Techniques
4) Knowledge

There are quite some informations in this thread earlier posts that all conclude into these few things. There are things not appropriate for me to discuss openly here in details. I previously discovered the number of clicks to read this thread increase a lot in just few hours. There are many people reading without giving any feedback.

Hormone/PW : In my humble opinion. No significant increase. Yes I've use it before.  (Hope those companies selling don't sue me)

Hygrostat: I have 10 units coming by ship direct from China. Definitely way cheaper than local supplier. If you're interested can PM me for details. According to my supplier the product doesn't sell to Singapore. Indonesia a lot.  It's originally made for mushroom plantation and swiftlet farming. Useful product. Farm won't be over humid.

You can get this Super Long lasting life time Ampifier for swiftlets Farming at RM120.00 at Progress Jln. Banggol. They also have MPEG4 player with USB port at RM120.

You can get this Super Long lasting life time Ampifier for swiftlets Farming at RM120.00 at Progress Jln. Banggol. They also have MPEG4 player with USB port at RM120.

seeseng, you better provide kent complete phone no with contact person maaa ha ha ha

Wattage unknown since it's a made in China that you buy in quantity can request to put your own brand type. Left and Right channel only. According to seller each channel can support up to maximum of 60 tweeters. I'm using one of this and a 5.1 surround amp. This one run at way lower temperature than the 5.1 amp i.e. suitable for 24/7 operation. 1/4 of the volume knob enaugh sound volume to cover my 64 internal tweeters. If you're using for external sound. Connect 1 channel to outside tweeters and another one for roving/guidance.

kent kt
Progress Electronic is opposite Ban Lee Heng and next to Seng Huat. FYI Progress family own 2 units of 5 storey farms in Setiu area. 1 still under construction the older one 1 year++ already harvested 1KG few months ago.

You want to use it to cover up cement smell? I also don't know where to get in KT. Maybe can ask those shops selling fertilizer one. Because it's also been use in "penternakan and industry fish farming" Spray with pressured water few more times can reduce the smell already. Otherwise can try man-made bio ammonia liquid? 

While I'm waiting for carpenter's waiting list. I'm currently planning on what to change in the renovation of my farm.

Carpenter need 1 week+ to settle current in hand job. I think they can make it. Pure NH3 of course smell too heavy. Must mix with water. Most of the time we human think what we don't like birds will also dislike. Some people even judge chirping sound by his personal preference without understanding the type of sound in use. Such as colonial sound consist of sound from birds of all ages. Some human said this type of sound very confusing/disturbing. 
So as smell. There are birds living happily in farms where human can't even tahan 5 minutes inside. NH3... hohoho classified informations.

I was joking about the homemade ammonia lah. I meant bio ammonia from toilet. Do you mean this farm in the pic? The large area not the entrance to the farm but its purpose like a roving area and shelter the smaller entrance in there from sunlight. Birds will fly cirle in there before go into the nesting area. The light is for anti-owl.

Normally ammonia is use for new farms to cover up cement smell and other chemical smell faster. Alternatives are wash with water everyday for 2 weeks otherwise use bird shit methods.
Recently quite some farms installed anti-owl lights. For some farms from the location they installed the light (some using normal 4' tubes) their purpose is to anti-"spiderman".
Birds attracted to what? That's the way to pancing birds lah. I got a lot more pics and records. Learn new things by studying other farms.