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 V1. Swiftlet Keeping-EVERYTHING About The Industry, Techniques, Tips, Tricks, Complaints etc

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Christopher Loke
post May 1 2008, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 1 2008, 09:44 AM)
I guess so many failed is because 1st they employed the wrong people to do the job or they themselves do wrongly, 2ndly some recon the mistake but reluctant to make changes. This happened too often.Its just like stock market when stock in dropping one should sell to cut damage. But most still wait oneday it will go up eventually they got burned.

I think most just like to sit and wait ..the waiting time to them is short very short... 5-10yrs to them is very short. Or some r very contented .I could say Malaysian swiftlet farmer are very sincere n contented n charitable  people. 10 or 20 nest in few years they r very sastisfy. And the spend ten of thousand to wait for something that never come.

So no wonder the farm increased so fast , llike mushroom.

Some even know the promblem but just reluctant to make changes.

Malaysia BOleh!
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Dear Swifbuild,
Since you mentioned that so many failed BH so what should these failed BH owners do now? Can you advise them?
How do you judge a BH to be successful? Is is by the number of nests after certain years of operation?
So does it consider to be successful if you have 100 nests after 3 years.

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Christopher Loke
post May 5 2008, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 4 2008, 09:12 AM)
The estimation is about 20% of the 8 nest p/sf . So estimate 1 nest p/sf consider very very safe already lah .But most time 1 nest p/sf also can not happen what. U r right let them do what they want don't distrub people rice bowl.  Better have beer at night n enjoying harvesting.
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Hi Swifbuild,

I have read a book written by an author now that claimed to be the 2nd fastest growing BH owner in Malaysia. According to his book, his BH reached more than 200 nests after one year. Does it mean that kohloh will be Malaysian 1st since his result always show great numbers of nests (> 1000+).
What do you say about this?

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Christopher Loke
post May 6 2008, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ May 6 2008, 10:41 AM)
The claim was by the media only. You can claim of anything you want. There're many BH achieve better results than that. 11 months achieved 300 nests all cup nests no corner nest at all also have.
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Correct me if I am wrong, I believe the result may vary from town to town.
I am from the Batu Pahat, Johor. Does any one know the average result of the BH in this area?
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Christopher Loke
post May 6 2008, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 6 2008, 03:19 PM)
Not only vary from tw 2 tw but also from bh to bh "even 1 identical 1 next door.
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So, what are the factors that make the difference between BHs?
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Christopher Loke
post May 7 2008, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 6 2008, 07:47 PM)
Deep undestanding of Af Behaviour and the skill to design BH also not forgeting in-dept knowledge of internal factors "MicrO"


Added on May 6, 2008, 7:50 pm
The fungus will deter Af from building nest not onlt that the af will run away too.

When you change yr plank mean u need to knock here and there this all chase the birds away.Understood?
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Hi Swifbuild,

Thank you for the advise.
I have read most of the books in the market and understand the important of the Macro and Micro habitats of AF.
I surf the net for info as well.
Besides these what will you advise to do in order for newbie to gain more knowledge.

Many Thanks
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Christopher Loke
post May 7 2008, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 7 2008, 12:30 PM)
There are thousands like you who attended seminars buy hundred of books n surt the net. If all do think that they can have a successful farm after doing the same like you then the failed rate won't be 90% right.

The problem are all think like you. It is not as easy as you think.
Sorry to say that.
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Exactly, So what can I do in order to be successful in this line?
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Christopher Loke
post May 7 2008, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 7 2008, 03:48 PM)
Pay to learn, simple as that.


Added on May 7, 2008, 4:21 pm
I sometimes may sound hard, but I am telling the thruth. Nothing is free. Those who knew the rules of the game had started once like u. They paid thru their nose ,travelling rain or shine thousands of km ,  begging for info ,uncounted cash used, time ,effords, unsleepless night and thousands more untold sad stories to have acquired the rules.

correct me if I am wrong, just one dude from the net who wants to start a farm and expect to have all these in their finger tips thru just one POSTING in Lowyat?

What u guys say? Is it fair?

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Exactly, But pay who and how much will that be?
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