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KELVINHENG
post Jul 13 2008, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(wongpaul @ Jul 12 2008, 02:13 PM)
Hello seeseng,
Sorry to hijack your thread.....

About thie Kelvinheng of Pearlnest......... I have read alot about the problems faced by innocent peoples doing business with him. I think most on this forum and other similar forum knows who he is..... but I think our friend at Bt Aman would very particularly wants to know more about him and his business... so everybody, watch out for him at the meantime.
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Excuse me Mr paul wong...u come in with one f*** king post

Accusing me as in bukit aman case.....


wait a minute....u are also another consultant i f*** issit?

if got nothing againgst me ...please by all mean go plants vege....


AT THE MEAN F***KING TIME.....do call me at 016-3063 619

I BET YOU JUST ANOTHER CONSULTANT( SABOTAJING ME)

WHAT DID I DO FOR U TO POST THIS TREAD...SEESENG.......OR MODERATOR...THIS POST HAD TO BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY AND WHOEVE WANT TO SEE ME COME TO MY OFFICCE IN KLANG

DONT JUST TALK COCK

PAUL WONG OR NOT YOUR REAL NAME CALL ME TO SELTTLE

BSLEE79.......CALL ME .... I AM WAITING!!!

IF NO CALL MEANS YOU ARE ALL CHICKEN SHIT HEAD



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post Jul 13 2008, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(yscagro @ Jul 10 2008, 11:43 PM)
yea, agree wit what seeseng said....dont be a dumb dumb listener...think n analysis urself.....dun ppl say wat u listen wat......

gohchua, ur BH still new, 8 nest i dont think its bad though.....think for the worst, plan for the best......as long as u dun giv up, thing that cannot happen also will happen.....smile.gif good luck!!!
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HI MR RAYMOND ...HAD YOU RECEIVED MY CD?

sincerely
kelvin heng


Added on July 13, 2008, 12:28 pmSEESENG AND MODERATOR....


IF YOU THINK THIS FORUM IS FOR PPL COMPLAINING PPL THEN IT SHOULD BE SET AS SWIFTLET COMPLAIN SECTION.

NOT ABOUT SWIFTLET FARMING.....FOR NEWBIES WHO POST ONE ...BSLEE79 + 69ING + WONGPAUL.......OR WHOEVER YOU ARE......YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER PPL WHO HIDE BEHIND THE CURTAIN..

SO MODERATOR PLEASE REMOVE THEIR POST.

Thank you

kelvin heng



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post Jul 15 2008, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(tsm198092 @ Jul 14 2008, 06:49 PM)
kelvin

i remember when i first approach mr Har.. n i also asking hw was his opinion abt u, he said u r not resposible to the swiftlet house u converted n ask me to watch out u.

Is ths consider bad mouth ( Mr H said he not bad mouth to other ppl in his blog)

mayb the name about is...............................

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Hmmm....

will its ok...nothing personal....will...he said i am not responssible...then can he prove it...common...guys and ladies, customer complaints...this consultant not good..that one not good....U KNOW FOR WHAT... to please us so we start talking....

About Mr H, will basically... iam blurr....why he said like that ....i did even know him... i remember he called me last three weeks ....to organise a seminar for seremban...and charge rm 50.(to help out the complaint)

I did not want to do it coz...seremban folks already given rm 300 each to kau tim the council...where it is unreasonable to charge again...

Honestly speaking..... consultatnt are doing their part providing their past knowledge and experience...

I myself do not there to TELL PPL HOW GOOD AM I... not that some even do 1 farm.....but given all 100 comment ....it is easy to comment, complaint and give thoughts....but can you perform in your bird house.

Today, i got calls from my customer ..." Thank you me " for bringing 19 nest.(1mth)...after changing a few tweeter placing. So do i have to put it here...how goood....n and so on....excuse me...not me ....

The moral of it.... dont just hear one side since you got two ears....then please listen to two side.Simple....just listen...don't make complaints....

MR H....., IF YOU READING THIS...CALL ME AND TELL ME DID I STEP ON YOUR TOES........YOU CAN CALL YOUR CUSTOMER..(YUNUS)..N ASK.... I NEVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOU....INSTEAD I SAID YOU ARE PROVIDING GOOD INFORMATION......FYI...NW I AM DOING 30 X 80 AT HIS LAND.....SG BESAR.

SO .....THERE YOU HAVE IT tsm198092, EXPLAIN ALL,,,...... if i am not responsible than mr h call me to organise the seminar...........??????

Listen both side.

MR RAYMOND........THANK YOU.......

sincerely

kelvin heng

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For all the member here.....mr paul wong....69ing and bslee79....never call me.......(moderator....watch out) seeseng....i though you always help member here.....why silence......






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post Jul 19 2008, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(tsm198092 @ Jul 15 2008, 08:16 AM)
kelvin

ths thg he told me a few month ago. mayb nw he found tht u can help him, so so nice with u nw.

jt beware, buddy

ppl have 2 ears, also have "2 face".

As  i knw from my friend, u r very good consultant, better tht Mr.........................

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Hi sir,

ok i apologize if i make mistake. If free we yam cha. Seeseng ,.....no worry......just make sure this forum remain for learning ...not sabotaj. Thank you and had called up harry 2 days ago....he knew about this.....

sincerely
Kelvin C C heng
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post Jul 22 2008, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(BSLEE79 @ Jul 20 2008, 11:44 AM)
Another victim bite the dust.  Just like the China girls calls about winning tens of thousands cash lah. Until recently still got people kena. Well, if I'm telling people to ignore those China girl calls am I ruining their "business"  Point out which statement I've made is false. I'm telling based on facts, evidence and victims statements.
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OPPS.....I ALREADY SENT THE CD LAST WEEK....WHEN RECEIVED ....PLEASE POST HERE....AND HE JUST WANT TO DOWNLOAD MY BOOK....I WAS AWAY MAH...

BS LEE 79, U ARE CONSULTANT OR WAHT?

MY POST OF RM 23,800........ARE GENIUNE.....WANT ME TO GIVE YOU ALL SUCESSFUL TELEPHONE NO>? WAH LAU...CAN, EVEN FIT INTO THIS LAH....SO WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE IS SABOTAJ...WHY NOT GIVE ME A CALL

016-3063 619........ CALL ANd MAKE APPOITMENT... I DARE YOU ......BUT WILL YOU SHOW UP!!!!????

Again as i said...this forum for reading and learning.. i do not have time posting here. just to defence myself.



bye


Added on July 22, 2008, 12:02 pm
QUOTE(tangsn @ Jul 21 2008, 09:41 PM)
Hi Kelvin Heng,

Still not receive your product!
Please send to me asap..................
Regards
Tang
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Ok will do .thanks

kelvin


Added on July 22, 2008, 12:11 pm
QUOTE(Lucas 1 @ Jul 20 2008, 10:50 PM)
After reading the above good offer,my heart and soul really moved. But,there is a few doubts that make me feel puzzled.
1) RM23,800 for 1,600 sf ? Average area of one floor is 20'x60',20'x70' or 20'x80'.So,RM23,800 is for only one floor. Nowadays,do you think that a serious investor would do only one floor?

2) 24 hours security system? Do you think that buglars would visit a new BH of less than a year old?

3) Pest control? Why do we need that for a new BH?

4) Bird dropping? Dont tell me that this consultant still resolves to the spankling of bird droppings to attract birds?

5) 24 times visit to farm in a year,i.e. once in 2 weeks. Plus bird survey done weekly for one year or till the BH is successful? Do you think it is practical or realistic? Or unless they set up a branch office next to my new BH.

6) Guarantee of farm success or money back and no GIMMICKS and all transactions are in cash?   
Why not this way,I would prefer to POST PAY RM 50,000 that I dont bother how this consultant is going to use and do on my BH,and he can keep the keys,just as long as there is no less than 50 genuine nests in one year. I am prepared to enter into any agreement with a bank guarantee to GUARANTEE payment. I think this should be a WIN-WIN for both parties. Well,any taker?
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1) 20 x 70
2) use cctv lah
3)If you do not protect your bird hse.........with pest at first ....then you only protect when got sarang?....i think you have to read or maybe let me explain....in person
4) u dont spank it...brother......you know it work or not?
5) do you think i am playing a fool with this.....do you know how many time i visit my customer????? welll.......want the list fo rmy visit???
6)Look for all the famous consultant and let the forum know you fine one,,,,,

i think you are totally blur about this industries...

call me please...thank you...or you want me to call you .

kelvin heng

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post Jul 23 2008, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(Lucas 1 @ Jul 22 2008, 11:49 PM)
Sorry,Kelvin,I didint mean to insult u or any other consultant.I must admit that I was blur as I didnt know whose package offer it was from. I only spoke out what I felt that seemed not logic and clear in that 'ADVERTISEMENT'.I dont know who is goldennest,whitenest,supernest etc.Neither do I know who is who.Now only I realise that u are pearlnest and pearlnest is u.No hard feeling ,pl.

Nevertheless,my offer still stands and open to anybody or any'nest' who can help me to do up another new BH without me having to go through all the hustles personally.Of course,it is subjected to further details in agreement to avoid misunderstanding and its going to be POST- PAID.

I think u are right that I am still quite blur in this industry despites I already own a number of BHs.Some are already many yrs and some are new.Some are doing well and some are not that well. Many methods were used including the spankling of birdshit,ammonia and the so called aroma from EKA.From my personal experiences,my fastest in bird staying in and building of nests BHs are those not using the above formula. 4 yrs ago,I started blasting off the invitation music on 4 separate units of new BHs with same design in the same Taman on the same day.All with same music.2 with above mentioned ingredients added.2 were 'kosong' and so cleaned that I could roll on the floor without dirtying myself. After 2 months,I found a few nest bases started on the 2 'kosong' BHs whereas the other 2 with ingredients added took more than 5 months b4 I saw a couple of bases. So,If you were to ask me,I could only scratch my head.

I ever applied 'HORMONE' and the aroma purchased from the famous N*** T*** on those not so well BHs and after 6 months yet no improvement.Whereas for those already doing well,I did nothing,they keep on doubling up. So,u see,I am at a loss.How I wish that someone could come out with a good explaination and if possible,a conrete and proven solution or method to share and enlighten all of us. I do not mind in rewarding reasonably to those who are prepared to share their proven findings with me. I do appreciate and I think it is fair to compensate their time and effort.
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Hi Lucas, swiftlet farming is not as easy as many ppl though here, as i am a consultant also not easy....example b4 you talk to me personally...u already have doubt, same goes with bird house. Your entrance sizes...design, roving area, wood plank sizes, temperature and the sound aerodynamic...must all in correct position. i know it is frustrating when you had a failed farm....

Look it on the bright side is that you still can help your farm now as august coming. You still 1 step ahead of ppl who did not have any bh yet. what i can do is that maybe you visit me and let me explain. i never charge anyone for failed farm.

lastly, if anyone who think i am offreing too cheap of my rm 23,800 package....then perhaps....anyone can suggest how much i should charge my customer? you know how much i make from this? if anone who think this package are too damn cheap...then please offer a price for 20 x 70 ( open roof top design). Lucas...you first?

For applying medicine, have to see the area, you do not have to apply bird shit all around and lucas, i never did that, bird shit is to put on the entrance hole and middle of nesting area. Hormone, you can apply once got nest,

Your rm 50k can let me do 4 if i diy myself. Why not like this, since you offer this, i will do your unit,,,,,,no need to pay...then when got 100 nest within 2 years...u pay me rm 38k......We make agreement... and i do not TC. Where is your place, i do this coz....not i greed for money....but to prove all this member here i dont TC only. James or swiftbuild, seeseng, west wing , Bslee79 or 69 ing, or anyone want to be part to witness this event, please come forward. Lucas, call me for this.

Since all members are here to read, please offer all your experty regarding lucas failed farm, i will offer my service for you free for your failed farm,.

Thank you

kelvin c c heng
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PS: Mr calvin lee, i had post 6 cd to you today as i am bck to kl, last few weeks went to sg petani, completing project. I am very greatful for your help, thanks.


Added on July 23, 2008, 9:01 am
QUOTE(alexdiong @ Jul 23 2008, 08:25 AM)
Anyone saw the banner in KLIA about imposing tax on bird nest? I guess there are just too many people taking it to China by hand-carrying.
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hi there, how much ther charge per kg. Thank you

kelvin

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post Jul 24 2008, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(BSLEE79 @ Jul 24 2008, 10:44 AM)
When you made mistakes, face it, be responsible to it. Not making excuses. I am not consultant nor anyone in the industry. I'm just one of the many many frustrated customers who paid but need to keep on follow up calls, emails etc for months. Keep getting promises. Old promises became empty promises replace by new promises. New promises later on postponed to another empty promises.  Called the main number nobody answer then got another number from other souces then call got people answer. 2 numbers belong to 1 same person 1 can be very busy then other one not? I'm so frustrated I do not want my goods any more. Keep it. Keep the money. Consider my donation. Keep on follow up is bad for health I will get high blood pressure or worse heart attack.
Why should I call you? You're not worth the 30cents. Why must only talk 1 on 1? It's not a point of who's brave and who's coward here. Do you get the point? Call me chicken or coward is fine but it is IRRELEVANT to the matter. You got guts, big balls, 3 balls you're very very dare.... SO?  doh.gif    <--facepalm action like Anwar made when debated with Shabery Chick corner nest.  1 word. Irrelevant. How good are you in term of knowledge in the industry or how many theories is also irrelevant to what I had mentioned. That's another story. What I mention is only about business moral and responsibility. Simple yet many can't achieve.

Can't face the general public? Worry more victims' evidence leak out? If you're really clean be transparent. Let the public know. If really made mistake apologize lor. Don't deny the truth. Actually I got more evidence in hand from other sources.  When delayed a customer's order for many months finally sent the goods and customer received. Is that consider settled? Settled in term of business deal maybe. In term of moral it's already a scar to the business. Once customer had such bad experience will they buy again? A successful customer cannot be used to "Contra" with a bad experience customer. This is not accounting. Got 10 good customers can mean cover up for 1 bad customer? The bad experienced customer can consider never exist? Many successful customers then congratulation. But the list of bad experienced frustrated customers also equally big list. Which statement I've made is not true? Then only can consider I'm sabotaging. If my statement are the truth then it should be useful information to the general public. Period.
p/s send regards to Chan Poh Tiang & Chan May Ghee

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Ok what did i owe you then i selttle it as my customer are too many, listed your demand and i greatly fulfill it.
tahnks
call me when you have Balls....

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post Jul 25 2008, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(GOHCHUA @ Jul 24 2008, 07:39 PM)
I had the same experience too so I keep my distance from this person since I had enough of his empty promises
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Yupp tweeter are cheap, but effective in bird house, my order really too many...even as we speak, sorry di not follow up my order with you...guys. I will recheck my status on your product and resend...anyway, thanks for purchasing my product.....

Will perhaps a full name or phone would be appropriate in displaying your forum here. So....your name and phone.How do i know you are same person with bs lee 79 + 69 ing+ gohchua+ and whatever.

Thank you

sincerely
kelvin heng


ps: dont just post without phone no

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post Jul 26 2008, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(tangsn @ Jul 25 2008, 08:29 PM)
Ok what did i owe you then i selttle it as my customer are too many, listed your demand and i greatly fulfill it.
tahnks
call me when you have Balls....

kelvin heng
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Kelvin Heng,

Where is my stock?
So answer my call if you have ball.

Regards
Tang
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Mr tang...your stock with you already?

cd follow the instructions.

Thank You.
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post Dec 7 2008, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(swiftie @ Dec 7 2008, 07:19 PM)
Good advice from West Wing. What I lost I cannot recover. I cannot contribute in terms of expertise but I hope my posting will help newbies to not judge anyone by face value. Some may have positive encounters with this person I don't know. Anyway what I want to say has been aptly put by West Wing. That was my main intention. rclxms.gif

I shall seriously surf starting from Pg1.  icon_idea.gif there is a wealth of information here just like an ebook ! thumbup.gif
Thank you for the genuine contributions by fellow experienced Bird ranchers! smile.gif
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Hi mr Ting Hing Kok, at last you sabotaj me here, i had been waiting for you to come in... How i know is you...hahaha! just put your name lah...make ppl more easy.

For your guys information....Mr Ting is the one who had been sabojing me.... anyway....welcome to the world of swiftlet....What did you lost? you stole my product in office ...did you tell ppl?

YOu had make me lost RM 60K....you still not happy...if you want to open up your unities office and cheat ppl...i dont want to get involve...PLS...IF ...I WANT TO CON..PLL I ALREADY MAKE MILLIONS BY NOW....

Ladies and gentlemen, this guy is setting up office for coning 15 k from ppl....why do youwant to set up two sdn bhd...oh ya mr ting ...you stole my workers away and did not pay..he is looking for you. And about the Mrtan workers....i paid them all for 11 k.....

Did cb chuah know you are going to use him as stepping stone.... ?

You are my partner but stabb my back for three project which cost me to lost money. Nevermind my fren..... i dont take .....you con me with invoices and so on.....comon lah...you want to con...me not easy.


Added on December 7, 2008, 8:52 pmMr Ting , i help you in collecting your house rent which you cannot collect for 6 month...now you stabbb me . Hmmm....now i know you had been telling ppl about my back.

As you want to follow my footstep...you do not have to sabotaj me...just go and tell ppl you are consultant.....ok.

Did you tell ppl that you use my office for 5 months no pay rent......????? did you ...why only say good thing about yourself.? You are so perfect arrrr? why use goh chuah and west wing quote?

I ask for your architect bill and engineer...u say you photostate for me...? where is the original? EXCUSE me.......where is the tel no i can call and ask? you simply ask me to pay you BLINDLY arrrrrr?????

Comonlah mr ting.......u do NO SALE IN OFFICE FOR 5 MONTHS...IF ME I WOKE AWAY LAH....NO SALE STILL TALK C....K

I am famous been stabb by ppl....this way it make me more famous...Thank you from thisforum which me a hit in my batik selling. You tell my fren...mr loh i collect 40 % and did not do anything....Hmm...here are photo attach to be judge. you dont know any construction....dont get involve....BY THE WAY MR HOO..OWE ME 12 K UNPAID.


Added on December 7, 2008, 9:08 pmFOR ALL CONSULTANT OUT THERE OR TO BE....MAKE SURE YOU ASK YOUR INVESTOR TO PAY YOU ACCORDINGLY TO THE BILL...WHERE AS THIS CASE ABOVE... I LOST 12 K FOR MR HOO IN KAJANG WHO FAILED TO PAY ME....BECAUSE BEEN SWEET TALK BY MR TING HING KOK ...WHO TOLD PPL I COLLECT 18 K...N DO NOTHING.....ALL WALL UP, TWEETER, POND...PLASTER AND REDO CEILIING...

I THOUGH HE IS A FREN...THEN COME HIS WIFE..... I LOST 12 K FOR THIS....... AS FOR RECORD I CHARGE HIM ONLY 29,999....FOR TWO STOREY...BOTH CONCRETE ON WALLS.....NOW COLLECT ONLY RM 18 K...STILLL GOT 12 K DUE

MERANTI 2 TONS.....AND THEY SAY I DO NOTHING...........????????

MR HOO...IF YOU READING THIS...ASK YOURSELF ARE YOU HAPPY FOR NOT PAYING ME.....?

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post Dec 8 2008, 11:09 AM

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I have frequently been asked by customer of how to keep fish in the Pond.....here are tips of how to breed fish without changing water and feeding them for years.

Pond which are size of 20 x 40 x 2 feet

This one appliable for new and old Pond( This advise is from my own 16 years experience in fish farming)

1) New pond, please soak water for at least 10 days, then wash it away and again soak for another 5 days ( pouring 2 kilogram of seasalt)

2) After that wash it and then try out the pond by putting ( longkang fish), if it die next day, means there are harmful compound for the fish.

3) If this occur then please soak in for another 5 days and try again. if ok then you can start buying some of the fish below:

: Guppy,sword tail or just normal long kang fish, 10 male and 20 female. This is to increase the fish population. By year end you will have more then 2000 guppy in your pond.

4) But before that, your water must be treated by putting in anti chlorine ( appliable for new tap water) dont ever use rain water as it carries harmful and toxic contents. Fyi, rainwater are mostly ph 6 .

5) To feed them everyday??? No need at all, just put the anacharis plant where you can find it most in the Malaysia Long kang....but before you put inside the pond, please be advice that you buy antiseptic from any aquarium shop and soak it for 15 minutes. Then put it in. This is their live food, but ...now your guppy all vegeterian. Once a month please feed your guppy with live worm...dont overfeed.

5) If you want your water not to be cloudy, then please put 1 filter or dont want any filter then....just get stone( water fall type) not coral sand.

6) Lastly please make sure all your pond waterflow system are cover with net....you do not want all the guppy to be overflow to long kang.

Have a nice guppy breeding experience. Below are some fish photo.You might start to enjoy this fish, lovely and easy to take care. Ohhhh...please buy this fish after qurantine form pet shop. How you know it is ok...move your finger across the aquarium and see which one follow. Buy that one.

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