hi every one, i am new in this forum, thanks Jeff for bringing me here, took me two days to digest postings here, many thanks to seeseng, swiftbuild & others who shared their valuable input . i owned two bird hosues, one is about 2 years and the other one is about 6 months, will start another one in kuala krai soon, anyone from kuala Krai ? any advise for this location ?

welcome,

U have 2 bird houses n 1 is 2yrs I don't consider u new .We may need yr advise.Anyway welcome to the forum.How is yr 2yo farm doing? mind to tell us a little about it as yr intro.

Swifbuild

Kuala krai 3 storey shoplot belong to my brother inlaw, near completetion, the location is near centre of swiftlet, about 50 meter from a sucessful farm can harvest +10kg a month. I will design & manage the farm for him 50/50, but one thing I susah..it is too far about 8 hours drive from my place. , how far is tumpat from kuala krai, want to have a look at the HYPER MEGA bird house when i get there..

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Added on July 7, 2007, 1:27 ammy first house so so only lah, not very impressive, first year about 50 nest, i have big problem fighting with the Owl and have white ants problems in the first year, now coming to 2 year about +180 nest only. last month i havest +40 pieces makan sendiri, I just went in today spay PW liquid on the wall.., temparature reading today Low@ 28 high @ 29, humidity reading low@ 83rh high@ 92rh,..haze is coming, like last year lots of birds cabut to east coast go to Jeff punya tempat ..my second house about 6 months, have plobem now only 2 nest, will do renovation next month changing from DK type to open roof type.., add double layer roof... very hot inside


This post has been edited by wahoowahi: Jul 7 2007, 01:27 AM

Hi wahoowahi, may I know how you deal with white ants problem? My farm is wood flooring so I scare will need to face this problem. That place long time ago got infested with white ants now gone. But scare they will come back again. Please advice. 8 hours drive to reach K.Krai walaueh I guess you 're in Gua Musang? 8 hours from here can reach KL already.

83%RH to 92%RH what type of humidifying system you're using? Mine controlled by hygrostat. Sensor high up on nesting plank. When nesting plank area reach 85%RH places below it already reach 95%RF very foggy. So now I set it to on at 70% and off at 75%RH.

my humidifier is those comon type for chiken farm make in taiwan, i don't use hygrostat, just set timer to on off alternately every half hour from morning until midnite. inside the farm also have a few tanki with water fountain (buy from aquarium shop), in this way can mange the humidity between 80rh to 95rh. if your bird house flooring is wood better don't use humidifier sure kena white ants, last time i call white ants company charge me rm 1500 they use one type of powder chemical put on the wall (in a box), white ant problem sesolve, but I wonder it can last for how long, they said can't last at lease 5 years no problems.

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Added on July 8, 2007, 4:18 pmHi every one, i miss the CD exchange party, anyone interested to exchange with me please email me your bird sound, in exchange i will send you mine thru' email. (Note: the length of the sound preferbly MP3 format around 5 to 6 minutes or +/- 10mb.) , if you have more than one sound, send seperate email for each sound.

my e-mail address is wahoowahi@yahoo.com..... give & take, that's the spirit of sharing...

This post has been edited by wahoowahi: Jul 8 2007, 04:18 PM

It's easy to get high RH but just adding more humidifier. To me 95%RH is too high. Might cause nesting plank fungus or nests too wet turn yellowish. In fact stable and just enaugh RH is the aim. My farm is at river side. So at midnight can reach max 90%RF without humidifier. Humidifier is only on when needed by hygrostat. Use of humidifier is a must during hot weather. For this river side farm I must be ready for white ant problem. With or without humdifier at midnight RH still very high. As long as can 100% solve the problem RM1500 is a reasonable price to pay.

Hi every one ,

I am new here , so happy because I found a forum that every one is talking about the swift . I am ne w in swiftlet farming and heard a lot of people keep on telling that if u wish to have a succesful farm house your sound is the most important and some is telling the smell is important .

So here I would like to ask those who are experience which is important in attracting the bird ?The sound or the smell ??

Hi kseng_99 welcome to the forum. Are you currently running swiftlet farm? A successful farm house is very complicated to achieve. The same method use in a successful farm may not be useful to another farm that's the problem. No standard A-Z method. Lots of time to monitor, analyse and make changes to imporve.
Personally I would vote for sound more important than smell because you'll need sound to attract the birds to come before they can smell the scent. There are no significant proof that smell would give much advantage. Without sound for a new farm no bird will come at all. Is smell more important than in farm micro habitat? Definitely not.

Thanks seeseng,

Thanks for your quick reply . At this moment I plan to involve in this field .As for your info my relatives do involve in this field but unfortunately he failed to archive great result, so this moment I am helping him searching for help from this forum.

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Added on July 12, 2007, 3:47 pmhi seeseng ,

I read the article that you and swiftbuild and other members do cd exchanging may I know how to do this and can I take part ??

This post has been edited by kseng_99: Jul 12 2007, 03:47 PM

I don't know about others but at the moment I stop exchanging because most exchange is bad deal. After receiving the cds from others and I play the cd I discoverd most r poor attraction birds cd.

kseng_99 how long your relatives' farm being operating? How bad's the result? Sometimes everything we've done is right but still so so result only. Many people do not see the importance of competition. Well there're people think open a new farm near successful farms is a good thing. e.g. 50meter away from a monthly 10kg result farm. To me that's a huge disadvantage. A farm can produce 10kg monthly mean it's good in almost everything. Are you confident enaugh to attract the birds over?? Is your farm higher altitute and better micro habitat than the 10kg farm? If not better be worry lor. There'll be problem even to attract your first batch of bird to stay. Most successful farms are pioneers of the area or lone operators of the area.

CD exchange days are over. Because we don't want too many people using same type of chirping sound. It's not good.

SeeSeng,

Ha ha ..aha..ha...ha... very straight forward ha? Same goes for me "the day is over" due to fierce competition.

Nowadays any tom,d*** n harry .Ahmad,Ah Chong n Ramasamy all got farms one. Imagine that man......... In any one area I can bet that the number of farms are more than the number of coffee shops.

I bet u will never see a role of shop lot occupied by coffee shop from end to end but u will often see a role of shop lot fully occupied by farms. Coffee shop only operated on ground floor but farms take the whole block from roof to ground from one end to the other end!

Fierce Competition!

It had operate for a year but there is still no bird.I do purchase some cd from eka do you think is it good enough

No bird stay? Or no bird go inside? Or no bird even come to play outside? Is there bird shit on the wall or on the floor?

Pop quiz: Can a 2 weeks old farm be stayed by over 100 birds in 1 night? For the past 2 weeks no birds even come play near external tweeters. But after that special night. Now everyday also got birds play at external tweeter. That special night is when over 100 birds stayed overnight for 1 night. Seen with my own eyes that evening so many birds rushed into the new farm to stay for 1 night. Anyone got answer what that special situation?

[farm farm arm no chilli padi?

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Jan 19 2008, 11:40 AM

At this moment bird is flying outside some have been going in but still not staying .

I am definately agree with that juz like chinese there are hokkien and other different type of chinese but if for A.F how sure we ar in using the sound that is suitable for each races so far as I know there are 4 kind of subspecies in AF is this true ?

IS that one kind of good sound will work for all 4 kind of subspecies in AF

1 year old 0 nest 0 bird staying got something wrong already. Better do something. From my earlier posts you can sort of get some basic info to analyse your problem. AF only 1 type. Indonesia commonly use AF and common swift(grass swiftlet) joint farming method so the sound you bought "MAY" contain common swift sound which is not suitable for farming in Malaysia. There are subspecies of Aerodramus family but the others are either not available in Malaysia or like A.Maximus only lives in caves. Only AF and grass stay in farm house.

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Added on July 13, 2007, 8:36 pmActually the situation happened was sudden very strong wind. All the swiftlet came out for food during the rain. Suddenly wind became so strong they can't even fly properly. So all rush to nearest farm to stay overnight. AF has no problem flying in heavy rain but not strong wind.

This post has been edited by seeseng: Jul 13 2007, 08:36 PM

walet yang besar suka terbang ke utara

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Jan 19 2008, 11:41 AM

My farm within these few days can open. Now cleaning up and clearing out my tools and stuff. Lots of birds also mean fierce competition. Will keep you guys update on the outcome.