Swifbuilt says.
"I suggest the discussion should be here so that more will know about it rather on a specific group that not known to many. Furthermore it seemed like it is specially created for few to thrash their ideas that is what the Garis paduan has been doing all this while without letting or inviting any related associated and planning it quietly.

It is time to create publicity. We want everybody to know that what the gov is doing doesn't benefit all and what they are doing is blind leading the blind.

A discussion should be transparent and easy excess to all!We shall all share out views and comments @ public forum as personal discussion groups or blogs"..


Agreed 100% as someone once told me that if one want to post negative comments in his blog, go and open your own discussion blog!!!!!
So, you see that there are only one sided comments on personal blog or so called discussion forum is only one sided story.....you only see what he want you to see.

Feel free to visit other sites on swiftlets but post your comments here as we all share and nobody can edit your comments except you. Once reaching 250...open another one, shouldn't be a problem with us, can't we?? So, remember before the golden 250, Create a new discussion forum and we all migrate there........All for one and one for all.

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Added on February 14, 2009, 3:28 pmchiongguo,

Chank said you are H or H is you so what is the matter actually...this is a public forum and everyone has the right to post his view but wrong posting get afew shot in his ass....sorry for bad manner.

Even if H is to post some good news here, aren't we happy that he posted?
Chank is not wrong to advice us to be wary of H and Chiongguo may have his reason to be offended....stay focus on our problem and this is not the right time to fight between ourself as we have to prepare for the battle ahead.

As for Sarawah, Sabah need to help in the coming massacre cos the next state will be Sabah if Sarawak is easily defeated. Need not LauTze to teach us that. If the country Association doesn't come out with a workable and friendly formula, then form your own working committee to prepare for war........Arrows, tanks and fund and most importance of all, legal opinions from Lawyers and Professionals. If one BH come out with Rm1000, then we may even be able to engage a Queen lawyer; chicken feed compare to the amount of money we spend building BHs not to mention our sweat and blood.

Above my personal opinion only.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Feb 14 2009, 03:28 PM

Engineer Lee......You are very helpful and deeply appreciated by all.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Feb 15 2009, 11:43 AM

Agree wiith you, Coolandy....100% !!

with the war coming, I wonder if we still have the strength and heart then. Hopefully that all well and end well....believing that with 60,000 BHs owners and maybe many times more supporters from friends and families countrywide......they need to give us due respect....else, we will help to change the sky and turn the sky Red.

Politicians esp. the MCA and Gerakan, now is the time to show that you care......remember that we are citizens, too and we do vote......you help us to keep our rice bowl, we may appreciate and help you to keep yours too.

I did posted that legal help must be seek in the murdering of protected species and also destroying of swiftlets sanctuaries.....get a court order to stop them and then let the court decide......appeal if lost and appeal to the last.......that''s will be longer then the 3 years you BH owners in Sarawah seek for. Why 3 years...and then what? Change the sky and if fail, you will eat your own words... One warning....good man die early, bad man live to a hundred as God has no place for them...... you want to wait and see if he live for another 3 years....

But then above are my humble comments and feel free to comment cos' the thought of the dying birds and the destroying of their sanctuaries really put a knife into my heart. Maybe I am not myself now......forgive me if my words offended our friends in Sarawak or cause unrest there.

Cursing someone can sometime come true. Someone once cursed another BH owner because of his selfishness that during that week, that guy passed away at the age of only 50+....

So, with 60,000 and many more curses to whom we all know, maybe one curse do come true......but I won't want to be the one to curse...ha.ha.ha and what if my curse do come true!!!!!!

Just to keep you all focus..... don't curse and be nice

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Added on February 16, 2009, 7:08 pmAnyone with common sense will not invest in Eco Park unless it is for human and not birds. Out of 100 BHs in Eco Park, only 10 may survive and are you in the the 10%...........if the number of BHs in the Park increases, the percentages drop..............maybe, if you are going to invest, better buy a piece of land and builf your own BH. Since Ben has already informed you who is behind the Eco Park, there are even more reasons for BH owners to decline to buy @ Eco Parks esp. in Sarawah.

Above, are my honest suggestion.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Feb 16 2009, 07:08 PM

I am neither pro this or that but that I am just for the betterment of swiftlet.
Who is right and who is wrong.... History will tell

Once, my uncle told me this, care not what each and everyone think of you and if you do, you end up doing nothing. Think of what's right and what you think of yourself.......if you think you are doing right.....then do it.... .and let future pass the judgement on you and hope that History may say " Here lie a MAN, a real MAN"

So, listen to all but just do it which you think is right as everyone will have own opinions on it .................if you follow everyone's suggestions, you will end up doing nothing and will be blamed by all. If you do what's right fot the industry, as least you will have the majority behind you.....care not about the minority as never all people think the same.

Pls. forget all the F*** and the C**** cos we will not be thinking of how to solve the problem but to bad mouth others.

Above are my little words of advice on the present forum climate and it't hot and many will die before any good can happen. Be free to comment but not now as the battle is here and we are fighting among ourself.

Tirokswift, I wish not to hear your defend for your friend cos' the more you try, the more you get hurt yourself (I feel sad for you) I rather wish to hear from you on what going on and what do you think and what have been done if any by your friend if any and hope that he have corrected the errors, we human do make mistakes but it is the very difficulty to admit it and it take a great man to admit his own mistakes. Hope that your friend will correct any wrong and end up in History as what I stated above.......