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post Jan 12 2008, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Jan 12 2008, 12:35 PM)
Kohloh,

I am STRONGLY agree wth you. We are talking about dealling wth the uncivillise homosapien.
Where got rules one. Ya you submitted everything according to rules "sai Lang" they themselves will not follow rules .They will tell you my boss up there say can not unless "kopi-O".

Somemore export license ha! dream man! Got license mean 'License to settle thru KOPI-O'

Don't have license mean can also settle thru Kopi-O but bigger cup ++++ lots of sugar if not sweet enough then demolish.

We have forgotten that swiftlet farmer are dealing wth people who has no integrety, honesty, ethic of proffessionism, etc.  You follow the rules they wiil not even though  they make the rules.
The council people are linced Gan...ter
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KNN CCB now days if i farm my self n harvest my own nest to sell overseas,i need 1 floor plan that approved by the local council and 4 stupit donno what they call "licences" only is what they called following the rules.KNN CCB""

I THINK IF I DEAL WITH FIRE ARMS ALSO DONT NEEDED SO MUCH LICENCES"" vmad.gif

i,m really "HOT" not,lets put it this way,we make an renovations at our properities that cannot rent out for many years into nest farm,so after renovation we needed an floor plan that sign n chop by an arcitec,then submit into the "ZOO"(council) then come the ZOO tecnitions to looks at yr places n sure come with this n tat "TAK BOLEH" then we have to make "KOPI O" then OK,then come Bomba n say this n tat "bila berlaku kebakaran ,burung nak lari ikut mana??" then we make "KOPI" again then come the Kesihatan,donno what involve them since e places is newly renovated but at last also "KOPI" then back to the "ZOO" again to get approval n again "KOPI" to the approval department only we can start
OK,capital invested,waited fr some years n lastly come the result,go havest then come Perhilitan say "taukey,ini kena lesen oh""ini protected animal goods oh""
then apply licences,kena pulak,then got market at overseas,we do processing by investing few hundreds K then come again the "ZOO"people saying "Taukey,ini kena licences lagi oh""then kena lagi "KOPI"
ok lah,after all those years i,m in this line let the past be the past lah,then our goods my be tested by Haiwan pulak so it does not contain bird flu,sent samples n wait n wait fr result then finally get it n they come with an licences to export animals good too so come out with 2 licences frm tat department.Haiyo,all those licences n fees,if i dont eat Virga also cannot tahan oh,
then come last month this Perhilitan come pulak,new law,any dealing(sell,buy,keep,distribute or export)need licences n if export need to apply another licences tat only 3 places in the whloe MAL can apply,went there n the first question they ask is "mana dapat itu sarang??either yr own or u buy at market u needed to provide the seller ID n name so that we can submit to the minister of finances""buat apa finances minister pun mahu tahu kah??? rclxub.gif
about blogger,please dont take picture of others people nest farm n post at yr blog tat u think its cool cause this will trigger the ZOO department n the fearest of all in this department is the tax department, then this will provide info fr the local council Zoos gang to know where is the KOPI bistrol are located so they can come fr KOPI all the time n it will creact lots of problem fr us
tats why lah,please dont creat more problem fr us,we are almost half way to hell aready.want to say much ,me also no more mood
here i had provide many info fr u guys,those understand they know whats happening
Bulan lah kali ini,hope it will shine better.

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post Jan 18 2008, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Jan 17 2008, 06:41 PM)
Here is the side view of the 5 stars boutique hotel. It makes me want to check in too....
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hi swiftbuild,
what is the total cost fr this building not inculding the land???


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post Feb 13 2008, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(athlic @ Feb 1 2008, 11:42 AM)
i guess they have those freezers given the amount they harvest per month....

anyway, why your price din change ah?
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we didnt change is because we r constant,......we r here to stay,,,,,,any one know me here????never ind,,,time proof it....

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post Feb 13 2008, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Feb 13 2008, 02:37 PM)
TOWKAY! HAPPY NEW YEAR...GONG XI FA CAI!

May your harvest per year reach 10,000kg

Wah ,Plenty of red nests rclxms.gif
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GONG XI,,,GONG XI....election time is here.
time to decide who will hold the state of oil this time
let the postal war begin,,,,,,


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post Feb 28 2008, 07:34 AM

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,,,,dream on,,,,,



another human "KEE SIEW""'=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN3rBB2Cn8s



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post Feb 28 2008, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(KELVINHENG @ Feb 28 2008, 10:38 PM)
Thanks in advanced for the pic. I will call you when i am free. Basically, i don't really care whether it is corner or full nest or broken nest , coz after i had mould it and bottle it..it is the same....

wait for your pic...i based in kl and sarawak

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Hmmmm,,,wat should i comment ah seeseng ??

better jus see see lok lok ,,,,


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post Mar 15 2008, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(kent kt @ Mar 15 2008, 04:23 PM)
Althought the big blue still in control,before the election there is some promise made regarding birdhouse by ours big blue YB. So if any problem look for the YB,of course this is a promise only how true it is we still don't know yet.What we scare is the changing of the promise.Another hope is BA now is taking over a few state already,so for the big blue to take any action must think twice also because of the next general election.
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can this be the big blue promise??.....



http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/new...ftlet&x=11&y=14


think now days ther r not so dare lah,,,
hopefuly...
we see




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post Apr 30 2008, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(hin24098 @ Apr 30 2008, 11:30 AM)
Swifbuid brother,
I  not agree with what r u mention,but somehow the most important think is AF live behavior r never changed since it born right,?
So , the problem it do we need to update our equiment time by time suite to market evolution in order to suscess our BH?
I already visit to once of BH in Medan,the BH is totaly out of date compare with malaysia talent BH,but he able to harvest 20kg/month.. :stars:and he on going to open for third BH witn zero equipment support... shocking.gif
So back to our view point.  Why the percentage of  BH fail  in malaysia still higher although malaysia hv a lot think high tech BH support equipment.
What r our  so call '$'pert play roll on it ....?every day almost hv i new BH support equipment come out.what r they perception on it?  whistling.gif
AF live behavior never change,Af maintain it live style day by day.
The big changer is human perception due to interpersonal itself.(do the busniess like open "kopitian" .)
AF feild in malaysia still young,population for AF still small compare with indo..
BH increase 35% year by year rclxub.gif .
those fail BH are totaly related with AF populatio ratio place by place.
So,like what u mention" not has any support equipment but can haverst 10kg/month"
Every place got different behavior of AF.Understanding the basic requiest on Af is enough to suscess you BH.
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i aggree at wat Swiftbuild say here cause not much know wat really happening at the nest farms market now days,u cannot compare with any hs from any places is just when they start.no ned to say how many bird farms i had visited at indonesia n some one here knows wat i do.
my indon partner has over 30years of rescearch over this matters wit 5 U graduate only doing R&D fr his company n they r top 3 indon nest exporters at world market so no ned to ask about their expreances.all i have to say here tat swiftbuild is right.
here at malaysia there r many players with over 20 bird farms but only 1 with nest others is "O"
nest farming is not so simple as 85% of playerssees it as an simple task.till now days i still can manage farms from O to 1000+ nest jus in 2 years time but i,m not ready to share it out n even at future time cause this is an business(better ask me to fill yr pocket with cash is more easy)
simply an tips here=its not about any types of equipment or aromas tat u use can garantee u success tat i can say
just started an new one when sold out 1 with 1600pcs fr 1.6M tat manage it fr 4 years time

its an game my fren


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post Apr 30 2008, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Apr 30 2008, 08:51 PM)
Koh Loh ,

Its great to hear from you . Sing Lee Ho Ho ha? What you said is not only 100% right but 1000% right .People like us understand the in-depth of AF. We ride the same boat lah "taw Kay"

I guess that guy should have  looked at yr pics of yr red nest then he will understand me. Besides he totally mis-understood what I was trying to say. He should read my post slowly words by words and digest it or he could just don't bother it n ended up having 10 nest in 4yrs.

If those had used common sense and IQ high enough they know what I am saying.I am not talking about any other thing its......."Desi.....Koh Loh u know I know lah "taw kay"

Koh Loh you are big time business man anything below 100Kg you wont buy one. I am only kacang putih.

We keep the game as it is so the economy  can keep rolling. We know the rules n when is the off-side ,when is foul,. Can u imagine those who want to play the game and knows nothing about the rules? What do you call them ? Spectator, pay money to watch the game either pay Astro or going to the stadium both still PAY. some pay heavily!

Its ALL IN THE GAME like Koh Loh said.
(Koh Loh is a well respected traders of nest ,he has been in this business for many yrs)
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lets put it this way,,

""WE CREATE N THERE IS ALWAYS PEOPLE WILL PAY""

WE KEEP ON KEEPING QUITE HERE N SEE WAT IS HAPPENING AT MARKET

but sure we do our job lah,,,,,

KEKEKEKE

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 3 2008, 07:56 PM)
The rule of thumb is 1 s/f  per nest.If u have Koh Loh skill it could be 2 nests per s/f.

A 20x70f shoplot could have more than 1000 nests easily. Provided u know to do it.


Added on May 3, 2008, 8:17 pmMet up wth Mr.T at Subang today. He drove all the way from Melaka.What a nice person he was. Down to earth type. Wth his initiative he brought along pictures of his shoplot inside,outside, location,etc.We discuss about how he should capitalise on the area he intended to build his farm.  The materials needed and how much it should cost so that he could plan out his budget on DIY. Most will be surprised to know the cost of DIY compared to one that done by Conlt.

The design of which area in the farm should be altered and where should be the platform be. What material to be used as this could save lots of money.Also the positioning of the entrance hole and its size that suit the farm ( There is no standard measurement of entrace hole all depends on the size and design of the farm).We can't copy blindly what others had done. Every farm has its own distintive features.

Later in the noon I took him to a 100% DIY farm in  Southern S'gor which belongs to a good fren of mine. This was the 1st time Mr.T visited a 100%DIY farm. He was impressed that one actually could do it. Later we had  teh tarik and chit-chat futher about  farming. I guess he was a very happy man after this visit . As he had attend few well known seminar and was surprised that there so much more to learn.

Good Luck Mr.T hope to see u again.
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YO,,,
why so much "Kohloh" ah???me no con som tan$$$ ah,,,just sharing some of my expreances
about SQ, u under extimise it....fr us 1sq we can stuff 8 nest ,so if an sq 0f 20X70 then if 2 floor??i had 1 tat only an room 18X8(150sq)aready stuffed with 700+nest without adding planks yet after 2 years only ,will be adding this year end so next year easly reach 1500pcs only in tat room..many havent seen those kinds of bird hs tat stuff over 10,000 nest but fr us collecter,its normal.
its not fr u guys to have a look inside but i can tell its just simple as u think.one cannot compare last time doing with now days tecnic.we guys will not provide any info cause now days farming is diffrent with those years.but when we talk much others will say we talk c**k.this has been posted at diffrent forum.so better to shut up n see wat they talk about

now today an story happen at an small town(story telling aready)there is an noodle selling guy tat turn con-suck ten$$ n done few farm with 10+ nest after 6 month n a oil industrail guy tat i think is an millionare aready after working many 10 years at the industrail tat newly build an own farm near my hulu bird hs tat bring 1000+ nest after 2 years.
he(oil man) is meaby too surprise about nest farming n went on telling every body how great he is at designing bird farm n the worst is he goes condeming others (noodle man)people works.then today the noodle man strick back with the words saying"when i met him once,i will bet him up onces"
OOhhhh,i think got show time now , as we think this guy is not hungry fr income then why come out to disturb people rice bowl???others wanna con ,let them con as long they dont interfear into my biz.as my point of view about nest farming,ts an own expreances as aready how long we walk the road.there is no free lunch in this industrail as one have to learn by it self.gang we teach them how n the fastes way cause gang ma then night time can share happy hours with some free beer too.tats all we share about
as the same word guys,nest farming is not so simple as u see n read n ask aroung can get expreances.tats why it create 85% to 90% into tong sampah.please dont ask me cause i wont provied,got to fed up with all those u talk i talk going around.only who harvest the most the fastes result is the winner i think.
tats all fr today ,meaby next time guys

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post May 7 2008, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 7 2008, 03:48 PM)
Pay to learn, simple as that.


Added on May 7, 2008, 4:21 pm
I sometimes may sound hard, but I am telling the thruth. Nothing is free. Those[SIZE=14] who knew the rules of the game had started once like u. They paid thru their nose ,travelling rain or shine thousands of km ,  begging for info ,uncounted cash used, time ,effords, unsleepless night and thousands more untold sad stories to have acquired the rules.

correct me if I am wrong, just one dude from the net who wants to start a farm and expect to have all these in their finger tips thru just one POSTING in Lowyat?

What u guys say? Is it fair?

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betullllll,,,,


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QUOTE(swifbuild @ May 7 2008, 03:48 PM)
Pay to learn, simple as that.


Added on May 7, 2008, 4:21 pm
I sometimes may sound hard, but I am telling the thruth. Nothing is free. Those[SIZE=14] who knew the rules of the game had started once like u. They paid thru their nose ,travelling rain or shine thousands of km ,  begging for info ,uncounted cash used, time ,effords, unsleepless night and thousands more untold sad stories to have acquired the rules.

correct me if I am wrong, just one dude from the net who wants to start a farm and expect to have all these in their finger tips thru just one POSTING in Lowyat?

What u guys say? Is it fair?

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betullllll,,,,

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Any one sell bird eggs here ??


Wats yr offer fr each??
each buy over 5000pcs only deal
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post May 19 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(jkm @ May 19 2008, 10:00 PM)
sweat.gif  jialat!!
If 5k shud be cheaper rite? Kohloh ....how much arr?

I think is not easy to handle the egg, does it need to be temperature controlled during transferring ?
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tis kind of question is sensetive,,,,
OK,,,my offer each buy must be 5000pcs above,,,
u dont care hove i bring it,,,,,,
prices if usd1 will make me happy aready
cash term,,,
doooont play play ah,,once eggs at yr hand ,,,its up to yr own,,,,
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3G eye,,,about 1 year ago product .cost about 700+ n many places got sell....just plug in an 019 or 012 sim card than plug into ac plug with the converter tat come toghether.DC power n non wire...once u dail the sim card number with yr 3G phone then u can view the places tat u locate the eye,,also can be adjust up,down ,left n right with yr HP.but make sure tat location got 3G coverage.
westwing ah,,,either its Lee talking here or its his son i think.e building sold fr 1.7M tat start at 1.5M right, cause my fren brought it....when count its 3800+pcs n we think its the cheapest bh in this world with those result n much more room to be renovate.either its an worth sell or n worth buy ,u know yr self lah.
now have 3 yah n coming another 2 right,,,but i think u will be singing song name "YESTERDAY"
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QUOTE(yscagro @ Jul 2 2008, 12:29 AM)
what u trying to say?? out of my mind adi..cant catch it....do you mean the 1.7m bought by your fren with 3800+ nest inside is previously owned by westwing??? or some other stories????
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noting much to say lah,,,,many understand this story cause many players also know about this deal,,,,no need to blur cause u got the story right
sensetive so up to here only,,,,

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QUOTE(Lucas 1 @ Jul 27 2008, 07:14 PM)
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Hi,Seeseng,U r very right.Some good volunteer just confirmed the stupid act of the PERHILITAN by emailed to me the photos taken from LCCI inside the departure.I am putting it up here. This is the main reason for the recent drop in prices in the bird'snests in M'sia only.Looks like it will continue dripping downwards till dont know when unless someone/ones are prepared to do something immediately to stop the PERHILITAN from further damaging this with hidden agenda.Every farmer and those involved in the trade will be hard pressed and crying soon.M'sia 's economy will be greatly affected.I bet u if there is any by-election,there will be Tsunami again to defeat the BN Federal Govt due to this small bunch of clowns from PERHILITAN pulling their own master's leg.BN never learnt.Do u know that 80% of the BH owners voted for the oppositions during last election?

1)In the past,without such implementation,there were many foreign buyers from e,g Indon and China,flew in here 4 to 6 times a month to fight for the nests.Becos of this stupid act of the PERHILITAN and its bereaucratic,red tapes, inefficiency,time consuming procedure and system that made thing difficult and inconvenient for the foreign buyers,thus,it deterred them from flying in as frequent as b4.Nowadays,if they do come,they come in submarine,may be once a month.And provided,your selling price is dirt cheap.If u dont sell,others will as they have their bank loan commitment or their children are studying in overseas.

2) A small group of volunteers are presently investigating and researching into the WILD LIFE ACT,suspecting that the PERHILITAN is circumventing the law and abusing their power by implementing such action by misleading the Minister concerned and jumping the gun for hidden agenda.They think that it is illegaL AND ILLEGITIMATE for the PERHILITAN to do that.They are waiting for certain evidences.They confirm those cases u mentioned are true and there are much more which have not been exposed.

3) This small group has highlighted and appealed to the Federation of the Chinese Chamber of Commerce recently requesting them to help to look into the matter seriously by using their established resources, manpower and machinery.Only the Chamber has the experience,calibre,ability,unity, sincerity and the machinery to do that with the past proven records.YOU may ask,where the hell are the birdnests associations and what have they done? Let me tell you this.Most of the committee members from the numerous birdnest associations across M'sia are of no calibres,useless, selfish and what the Chinese say "small People".Many of them can not read or write proper.For those who are of higher calibre and with better education background,wont want to do the dirty job for own hidden agenda.They only want to hold positions with their name cards printed to impress the newbies so they can act as Con-sultants or at the end of the days get nominated for the Sultans'A to Z titles.This also goes to the self- proclaimed Federation President ,a senior Dato from Kedah who is good for nothing.Just imagine,he was the YB and Exco in Kedah for many years,yet,till today,he did nothing during his tenure as Exco  to convince the former BN Govt to license the BHs in Kedah.In fact,he himself owns the most BHs with no less than 100s in the region.He should thank to this trade as he was the developer one time burdened with hundreds of unable to sell shophouses b4 this trade emerged.He could have gone bankrupt.In Kedah,almost every farmer got harassed and summoned except his.This is the truth all Kedah BH farmers know and angry with.Understand today,he is blessed with lung cancer due to the too many "good deeds" done.

4)Also that,many associations committee can not see eye to eye due to conflict of interest or crash of business.One worst example is the former unscrupulous 1st President of the M""" Birdnest Association.Of course,not everyone is like that,there are some very dedicated,committed,sincere,prepared to contribute and yet frustrated committee from various associations,except that their numbers are very little,isolated and short-handed and inexperienced. These good men should surface, take the lead widen the gene-pool to hunt down each other and keep in touch with each other,put aside their differences and be united and organised with true sense of commitment,dedication to fight for what they sworn as a committee for the betterment for this industry which in the end of the day,their own interest as well.

5) These sincere committee from various individual associations together with those educated readers with righteousness of this blog should volunteer jointly to help out the Chamber to help this industry and in the end help your ownself,hopefully,b4 it is too late. If everyone were to contribute a little in his own positive way or resource and be united with no personal agenda and with one heart,I think those high-handed clowns from the PERHILITAN would retreat.

6) Just sit back and close your eyes for a while,dont fall asleep,start visualising what will happen if  nobody comes forwards and volunteer to help in the situation?Just imagine what will happen to your  already spent few hundreds thousands to the millions of yours or your dad's life time saving of investment?There is a saying,becomes water.Or do u want to take chance to count on luck that some samaritan would be sent by god to help resolve your immediate problem?So,u want to help urself or u want someone to help u and what if,that someone forget to turn up?Who has more to lose?Its either u come out to help urself or u assist others to help urself in so many ways.

6) I understand that The Federation of The Chinese Chamber of Commerce in KL will be organising a seminar cum symposium to discuss mainly this issue besides other birdnest related topics on 02.08.08 Saturday from 10 am onwards.I would like to appeal to this blog readers who are concern of the future of ths industry and prepare to contribute and to help out to help urself,please voluntarily call up the following phone to register to attend and for details.Participation is limited.Construtive proposals and actions expected and welcome.Also,spread the msg to persuade those whom u think would be able to contribute.We are on the same 'sampan'now,every single drop of help is important.Everyone of us can contribute in many different ways to reverse the situatiuon to our favour.Only with UNITY,can we win. No point for all of us talk c*** here and do nothing positive. There is a saying,everybody expects somebody to do it,in the end nobody does it and then everybody hugs each other and sink! Do u want that?

  03-21452503 Mrs Kam, secretary (FEDERATION OF THE CHINESE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE)

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yah,,yah,,,if i wanna skrew ,i,ll skrew deep deep.
u guys only know how to complain,newbies may i call it.PERHILITAN didnt make this call,swift birds are catagory at II grad protected animal at perhilitan chart n any one have to apply licences to deal with it,even harvesting feather nest at cave also need licences n tender frm to goverment to do it n even buying in babi hutan meat also ned this licences BUT the truth is if when u apply this licences fr trading swift nest u can either sell of buy locally(can any indon or china man come into MAL to buy plam oil or timber n ship out this country without paying any tax or going over any procedue???)same thing like nest trading.first must have an trading licences so the goverment can trace.wat r the gov up to???its not about the rm100 tat perhilitan get,when fr export u have to get another permit frm an company name DAGANG NET(e licences)only when u have the licences to trade then only u can go on line apply fr this export licences.tell u guys this dagang net is own 100% by BANK NEGARA,why this???cause u nuts DIDNT PAY TAX.MAL monthly nest is about 5ton,so with that amount ,do u know how much is the value???they can get 28% frm it cause its net profit.so dont shout when u donno nothing.they r trying to trace the farmers.any deal by us will have to record the seller ID n name..will u guys provide fr us???bet u dont have the balls to do so.oh u guy voted fr oppersition n now is the time to TAKE TAT!!!!

complain about prices drop,,,also no school one,,,,last 6 month when prices was 4800/KG but do u relise at that time RM was 3.50 compare with US$1.00.so u do this,rm4,800 with devide 3.50 n X back to now rm3.20 compare with USD$=so ow much u get????nest is an international trade so we must deal with USD .its our money tat rise compare with USD not prices drop.but if our country keep it at rm3.50 or rm3.60 then we will have to pay more expresive petrol.make yr choices.
we still dealing as usual till today.dont take malaysia nest industrail so proud,we r only 10% of the world market monthly.u farmers always wanna sell yr nest at the highest prices like selling siew mai.""siew mai""har kau""siew mai""har kau""'knn,,,we processer only make tat rm400 per kg but u guys wanna suck it all frm us even the rm400 also not let us make.we have 2500 workers at indon tat process over 5TON/monthly BUt if we met sellerl ike siew mai n harkau our factory sure die of n die hard very early.indonesia farmers are very mature,they supply to us n dont compare at marketat large amount monthly,higher rm100 or lower rm100 they dont care as long we makan all his nest.we r talking about 100 to 200kg each seller.not 1 or 10kg siew mai customers .we ned an stable supply so our workers will have an stable job.ai!!! we dont use submarine yet.no money to buy yet,,,meaby later

about 3rd n 4th matters,also u donno yet ,about Kedah,he now own more than 156 (i manage his nest)aready cause another 56 at Kampian.do u know how much we aready contribute???DO U ???How many tens of thousand of ringgit n KGs of cleaned nest been sent to the sultan n YB but does u guys contribute even 10cent???n u say he will bankrup cause his shop hs cannot sell ah???u wake up aready or not??selling bird hs or selling empty shop makes more ??how much we aready spent over the years bringing gov people to go study about nest farming industrail at indonesia n spending over hundreds of thousand but did u guys make any contribute???just know how to stand back u watch n talk c***.about consultant n CCC i wanna dont wanna comment about it ,tats the way they cari makan.u wanna trust them go ahead.
about the first MAL assocation president(Tis guy i know him well n call him "SIR")he has been contribute to this line so much n had spent so many years n not to talk about $$$ just to fight n nego with goverment just to issue us licences but do u make any move yet or make any 10cent contribution on this????aready 8 year we hold talks with goverment from lim leong sik till ong ka ting but donno whos coming up now.all previous works are usless sinces the gov always the kerusi cannot sit long one.
when we hold meting about forming assocation n holding talks with Gov,,,alll cabut lari saying fees to mahal,,aiyo,,we need an offices spaces,fax machine,phone,table,chair n many more lah,but is there any contributions fr u guys???all know how to just sit back n watch n thinking they will sattle it with the gov n we just wait n see but when fire is burning at his ass then he will jump here n there to look fr help.we had been working with toghether with the goverment to issue us licences n even let Bomba n kesihatan to check our bird hs n apply plan n licences but u guys still sitting back there trying to hide.every one is trying to protect their rich bowl here but many r hiding behind hoping other should do their job fr them.same like nest farming,now days when we open new farm,we can get 100 of birds to stay over night just in an week time but many ask to share.MANA BOLEH SHARE,sharing means when i can get 100 birds to stay if i share with u ah means meaby calling 50 to 80 to go stay at yr place then me only have 20 left.***,,,its an BIZ lah.to get the most customers as possible.we r all full time nest farmers,traders n processor not hobby lovers or meaby u share half of yr gaji with me???
today aready share many info fru guys.at indon nest are not allow to be farm at town area many years ago,any nest farm at town area with over 1000pieces conditions is worst than any cicken farm not to talk about farms with over 10,000pcs of nest.jus imagine if u have an pieces of land at town area n u go apply licences to do cicken farm will the gov approf fr u??wake up,,sooner or later gov tsunami will be here
tru the years we had make many contribution but no need to let u guys know lah,even u know also u wont relise wat we r doing.let the tsunami come sinces we r ready fr it cause many is hiding n kep on the good work

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OH,,,,OH,,,,HERE COMES TROUBLE,,,,,,,,,,,

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they call u guys iiiegals,,,,,,,,DAp all the time,,,,

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Nov 2 2008, 08:59 PM)
OK, I start this forum is for everyone who wanted to buy and sell birdnests, a forum where buyers and sellers can meet and discuss about the present situation of the birdnests market. A place where there is no loser only winners, I hope. A forum where everyone can buy quality healthy nests at cheap price. At present down turn of the world economy, we look back to  Malaysian to give them some of the world best bird, Malaysian Birdnest  and it going at a bargain. Instead of selling the nest cheaper oversea, I rather offer to buyers personally and what I mean are buyers, the ones that know what good for their families and want to buy original and quality birdnests at cheaper price...........


Added on November 2, 2008, 10:59 pm
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IF I POST THE TRUTH OF NOW CONDITIONS ,,U GUYS WILL SHIT....
NEAR TIME $2700 N GOING DOWN"
So, if the buyers are offering so low a price giving excuses and putting fear on the BHs owners whom are so worried about the present situation.that the price is going lower and lower, I shall start offering my nests to the public if they want to buy at Rm4000 per KG semi cup and lesser if quater cup. I will teach them on how to clean the nests. Win Win situation as I will get better price for my nests and the public will get cheaper nests by processing the nests themselves. Now, Malaysian public can afford to have birdnest for breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper..............
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putting fear on the BHs owners=we see loh

Rm4000 per KG semi cup and lesser if quater cup=here selling 3600 n with over 100kg

will teach them on how to clean the nest=U YR SELF ALSO DONNO LAH


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