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post Jun 6 2017, 11:13 AM, updated 9y ago

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Kinda ridiculous for a crash just a week ago to recover.

Btc price have reach new high at 2840usd currently....

Bincangkan
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:14 AM

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post Jun 6 2017, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:13 AM)
Kinda ridiculous for a crash just a week ago to recover.

Btc price have reach new high at 2840usd currently....

Bincangkan
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Show to us yr bitcoin.
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:15 AM

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What is the liquidity like?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:16 AM

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ts pandai got lots of bitcoins already. so bila belanja?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:17 AM

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post Jun 6 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jun 6 2017, 12:15 PM)
Show to us yr bitcoin.
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This is not about. Just to share among greatest bull run this decade will ever have...
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jun 6 2017, 11:15 AM)
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This lol.
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:19 AM

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wait for next year economy downfall 2018 when everyone realizes cryptocurrency.
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(ate @ Jun 6 2017, 12:19 PM)
wait for next year economy downfall 2018 when everyone realizes cryptocurrency.
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Alt coin will bath in red and take the back seat for now while bitcoin surge to chart new height range 😅
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:20 AM)
Alt coin will bath in red and take the back seat for now while bitcoin surge to chart new height range 😅
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im doing ok with dogecoin, dgb. Anyone who invested these two within these past 2 month probrably 10x 20x fold their investments. Put 100k youre an instant millionaire on May 2017 - June 2017.

Ive invested in mooncoin,reddcoin and some other coins with 0.009 and below, once its reaches 1 cent ill bail out and look a few new altcoins with good community, promising updates and advances.

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post Jun 6 2017, 11:29 AM

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Can easily cash out to MYR meh?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(ate @ Jun 6 2017, 11:19 AM)
wait for next year economy downfall 2018 when everyone realizes cryptocurrency.
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Just like venezuela lol
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(ate @ Jun 6 2017, 11:28 AM)
im doing ok with dogecoin, dgb. Anyone who invested these two within these past 2 month probrably 10x 20x fold their investments. Put 100k youre an instant millionaire on May 2017 - June 2017.

Ive invested in mooncoin,reddcoin and some other coins with 0.009 and below, once its reaches 1 cent ill bail out and look a few new altcoins with good community, promising updates and advances.
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Why people dont do dogecoin or bit coin instead of uber

Macam easy money jer
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:34 AM

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post Jun 6 2017, 11:36 AM

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I'm going to be small scale bitminer. Any1 can guide me?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(CallOfLegend @ Jun 6 2017, 12:34 PM)
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Dont bother tagging that master troll...

Hes gonna pretend sad and say he cut lost at 1900usd per bitcoin 😅
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:37 AM

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ada btc ada amoi?
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Jun 6 2017, 12:37 PM)
ada btc ada amoi?
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Abam sadok mining some?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Jun 6 2017, 11:33 AM)
Why people dont do dogecoin or bit coin instead of uber

Macam easy money jer
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cos intangible asset. something u cant see how to trust?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Jun 6 2017, 11:33 AM)
Why people dont do dogecoin or bit coin instead of uber

Macam easy money jer
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cause you need money and patience, its a waiting game.

Also cryptocurrency is very volatile. But it will recover in time. Newbies will panic and sell everything once it goes down and make losses.



this guys knows.
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Jun 6 2017, 11:38 AM)
cos intangible asset. something u cant see how to trust?
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QUOTE(ate @ Jun 6 2017, 11:38 AM)
cause you need money and patience, its a waiting game.

Also cryptocurrency is very volatile. But it will recover in time. Newbies will panic and sell everything once it goes down and make losses.



this guys knows.
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I see
. Wait tu... How long?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Jun 6 2017, 12:39 PM)
Ooo
I see
. Wait tu... How long?
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U will feel when its down and time to recover cery cery long....

But when you look at the date its barely a few days 😅


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post Jun 6 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:13 AM)
Kinda ridiculous for a crash just a week ago to recover.

Btc price have reach new high at 2840usd currently....

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how about bookcoin
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:41 AM)
U will feel when its down and time to recover cery cery long....

But when you look at the date its barely a few days 😅
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Lololz

Lets say from down. Then up again
Meaning if sell, can get some profit la. If not much

How long? A year?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Jun 6 2017, 12:42 PM)
Lololz

Lets say from down. Then up again
Meaning if sell, can get some profit la. If not much

How long? A year?
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Son. In cryptocurrency theory of relativity apply. 1 year in crypto world is like 4 years in stock market....😅

Actually this is how i feel when i migrate from bursa to crypto
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:44 AM)
Son. In cryptocurrency theory of relativity apply. 1 year in crypto world is like 4 years in stock market....😅

Actually this is how i feel when i migrate from bursa to crypto
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Daddy.u not answering the question
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Jun 6 2017, 12:45 PM)
Daddy.u not answering the question
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I answer indirectly lar.

If correction in stock market takes a month to recover.

Cryptocurrency world take just a week.

If i can make 5-20% gain a month in bursa.
In crypto inroughly double the money every month....
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(ate @ Jun 6 2017, 11:19 AM)
wait for next year economy downfall 2018 when everyone realizes cryptocurrency.
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jjptr used to brag too
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:47 AM)
I answer indirectly lar.

If correction in stock market takes a month to recover.

Cryptocurrency world take just a week.

If i can make 5-20% gain a month in bursa.
In crypto inroughly double the money every month....
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I see

So the period only monthly la?

Then people should know more about this

More profitable than uber or grab
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:49 AM

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Bitcoin is legal in Malaysia?
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:50 AM

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tongsan hold the most bitcoin and the gmnt tightening up money going out. so all invest in crypto.

hope alt keep rising with btc
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QUOTE(happyking4ever @ Jun 6 2017, 12:48 PM)
jjptr used to brag too
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Yes. Very high risk.

No ody knows when the house of cards is gonna crumble
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(ate @ Jun 6 2017, 11:28 AM)
im doing ok with dogecoin, dgb. Anyone who invested these two within these past 2 month probrably 10x 20x fold their investments. Put 100k youre an instant millionaire on May 2017 - June 2017.

Ive invested in mooncoin,reddcoin and some other coins with 0.009 and below, once its reaches 1 cent ill bail out and look a few new altcoins with good community, promising updates and advances.
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where to buy?..
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QUOTE(happyking4ever @ Jun 6 2017, 11:48 AM)
jjptr used to brag too
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cant go wrong when universities, toyota, jp morgan, microsoft, deloitte, banks in europe, japan and china and all the big players are backing cryptocurrency whistling.gif
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:56 AM

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Alt coins are riskier

Lucky im with dogecoin, the community keeping it alive. Last time i always use it to trade steam games.

Too many useless coins aka scamcoins out there

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:47 AM)
I answer indirectly lar.

If correction in stock market takes a month to recover.

Cryptocurrency world take just a week.

If i can make 5-20% gain a month in bursa.
In crypto inroughly double the money every month....
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u do mining?

or buy and sell?
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:51 AM)
Yes. Very high risk.

No ody knows when the house of cards is gonna crumble
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that jjptr guy probrably had the money turned into btc or some other alt coins and hid it on a cloud service, once hes out hed probrably turn out to be a super rich guy.

He said he was hacked and the money was untraceable , you know and i know icon_idea.gif
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i have some currency at Cryptsy...........
but they are raid, no more liao
LTE now how much liao?
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QUOTE(everest @ Jun 6 2017, 11:49 AM)
Bitcoin is legal in Malaysia?
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BNM standard answer, only msian ringgit accepted as trade currency in msia.

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post Jun 6 2017, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:47 AM)
I answer indirectly lar.

If correction in stock market takes a month to recover.

Cryptocurrency world take just a week.

If i can make 5-20% gain a month in bursa.
In crypto inroughly double the money every month....
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That is if the site doesn't get "hacked" and you still have your wallet. Also the fall from 4000 in 2014 took about three years to recover.

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where to buy?..
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post Jun 6 2017, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:47 AM)
I answer indirectly lar.

If correction in stock market takes a month to recover.

Cryptocurrency world take just a week.

If i can make 5-20% gain a month in bursa.
In crypto inroughly double the money every month....
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doing stocks = margin trading on poloniex kew?????
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 01:03 PM)
doing stocks = margin trading on poloniex kew?????
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I never do margin trading on both platform.

Purely own capital.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 12:04 PM)
I never do margin trading on both platform.

Purely own capital.
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so what is playin stocks equivalences in crypto world???

stock have margin trading too???

what the diifetence between stovks and crypto
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 6 2017, 11:29 AM)
Can easily cash out to MYR meh?
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Thursday night start wire transfer from SG to US, Saturday morning USD ready to buy ETH, wire fee S$64

Sunday withdraw USD back to Singapore, Tuesday morning get SGD in bank. wire fee S$20

Pretty easy with Singapore banks, come and do quick part time job and open up a Gemini and bank account.
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Jun 6 2017, 11:48 AM)
I see

So the period only monthly la?

Then people should know more about this

More profitable than uber or grab
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i have seen eth jump from 80 to 1++ in overnite

wtf

today 80,next day i open chrome its 1++

hahaga,crazyy
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post Jun 6 2017, 12:12 PM

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u know why

from CHINA..

now INDIA jumping in..

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-att...-traders-india/

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post Jun 6 2017, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 12:12 PM)
i have seen eth jump from 80 to 1++ in overnite

wtf

today 80,next day i open chrome its 1++

hahaga,crazyy
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Wa. Untung lor

Sell?
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post Jun 6 2017, 12:22 PM


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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Jun 6 2017, 12:16 PM)
Wa. Untung lor

Sell?
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I bought a ton at $4.50, technically a multimillionaire now.

Still accumulating until Casper before gradually unload for BBB UUU in cash.


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even if u own bunch of bitcoins now, that can turn into million of profits
still will not satisfy you enough, suppose you purchase 100k-200k of btc back to 2010
when u see on the screen computer, on the forum, and u laugh at it when the price still on few cent.

or at least purchase when the price still at $5.

i could be a freaking billionaire profits right now.

but be grateful, million is better than nothing though

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 12:22 PM)
I bought a ton at $4.50, technically a multimillionaire now.

Still accumulating until Casper before gradually unload for BBB UUU in cash.
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Waa
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QUOTE(acer7254 @ Jun 6 2017, 12:24 PM)
even if u own bunch of bitcoins now, that can turn into million of profits
still will not satisfy you enough, suppose you purchase 100k-200k of btc back to 2010
when u see on the screen computer, on the forum, and u laugh at it when the price still on few cent.

or at least purchase when the price still at $5.

i could be a freaking billionaire profits right now.

but be grateful, million is better than nothing though
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I know that feeling, I laughed at that ETH spammer when it was $1.

Could be five times the millionaire today, but hey, I'm still a friggin millionaire at 26
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post Jun 6 2017, 12:28 PM

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Lol 2 crypto millionaire just comment biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 12:28 PM)
Lol 2 crypto millionaire just comment biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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And the third one here so modest.

I like
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 12:28 PM)
I know that feeling, I laughed at that ETH spammer when it was $1.

Could be five times the millionaire today, but hey, I'm still a friggin millionaire at 26
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Ayam laugh at eth too
Now ayam sad sad.gif

But who's know ayam will continue sad or.. back to laugh in the future?

Now thinking into new type of blockchain investment technology

Just like yahoo dead to google
Myspace dead to Facebook

Blockchain tech is still new

I believe something big is coming when it comes to blockchain tech. Times to expand my investment portfolio

Be aware guys

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 01:07 PM)
so what is playin stocks equivalences in crypto world???

stock have margin trading too???

what the diifetence between stovks and crypto
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Too technical and abstract...i lazy wanna elaborate.

Summarize is based on a few market i have traded. Crypto is the best commodity to trade right now.

Easily predictable graph, 'dumb money' flowing in(refer to chris dunn video the interpretatio ), the market runs 24/7/365 and not barely 6 hours 5 days a week not including off day on oublic holiday bursa market, and some other aspect lazy to elaborate....
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 12:42 PM)
Too technical and abstract...i lazy wanna elaborate.

Summarize is based on a few market i have traded. Crypto is the best commodity to trade right now.

Easily predictable graph, 'dumb money' flowing in(refer to chris dunn video the interpretatio ), the market runs 24/7/365 and not barely 6 hours 5 days a week not including off day on oublic holiday bursa market, and some other aspect lazy to elaborate....
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wtf

u cant buy stocks at 3 am???
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 01:48 PM)
wtf

u cant buy stocks at 3 am???
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 12:28 PM)
I know that feeling, I laughed at that ETH spammer when it was $1.

Could be five times the millionaire today, but hey, I'm still a friggin millionaire at 26
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newbie here, how to start off with Bitcoin? I will buy tonight LOL
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 12:28 PM)
I know that feeling, I laughed at that ETH spammer when it was $1.

Could be five times the millionaire today, but hey, I'm still a friggin millionaire at 26
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10mil ka?
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 12:28 PM)
Lol 2 crypto millionaire just comment biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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Yea so many millionaires in /k/ and still people say the economy is bad and they can't afford nice things smile.gif

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newbie here, how to start off with Bitcoin? I will buy tonight LOL
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4218606


read,the only thing i hate to do,plus wif readin i still not gettin it,ending up spammin that tered wif my bodoh noob question,haha
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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 6 2017, 12:54 PM)
10mil ka?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/...e6v&sh=df7f69f3

this guy buy 1.4 milion eth

now 1 eth is 250 usd
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 12:54 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4218606
read,the only thing i hate to do,plus wif readin i still not gettin it,ending up spammin that tered wif my bodoh noob question,haha
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thx wei

me also in that thread LOL

me in office now. Cannot open website for so long...


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ok lets buy pcs and start mining
but how??
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I notice some ppl just buy coins and some r mining

is that my correct impression
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QUOTE(BrokeBack @ Jun 6 2017, 12:58 PM)
ok lets buy pcs and start mining
but how??
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You don't have to mine, you can buy it on the open market.
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even if u own bunch of bitcoins now, that can turn into million of profits
still will not satisfy you enough, suppose you purchase 100k-200k of btc back to 2010
when u see on the screen computer, on the forum, and u laugh at it when the price still on few cent.

or at least purchase when the price still at $5.

i could be a freaking billionaire profits right now.

but be grateful, million is better than nothing though
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i regret selling my bitcoin last 4 months sad.gif
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ok lets buy pcs and start mining
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cant go wrong when universities, toyota, jp morgan, microsoft, deloitte, banks in europe, japan and china and all the big players are backing cryptocurrency whistling.gif
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You can pay for Windows and cars in some alt coin now? you can buy cryptocurrency at the banks in Europe, Japan and China?

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Still you made a few million right?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/...e6v&sh=df7f69f3

this guy buy 1.4 milion eth

now 1 eth is 250 usd
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$300,000,000
Fuk


Better sell it off, since eth is unlimited supply

Or, the price jump up to $1000 and he will be crying like a baby.

After all, crypto world still 80% on speculating game than doing a real economic trading

Random people just gonna be a millionre. Mostly a geek
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 12:42 PM)
Too technical and abstract...i lazy wanna elaborate.

Summarize is based on a few market i have traded. Crypto is the best commodity to trade right now.

Easily predictable graph, 'dumb money' flowing in(refer to chris dunn video the interpretatio ), the market runs 24/7/365 and not barely 6 hours 5 days a week not including off day on oublic holiday bursa market, and some other aspect lazy to elaborate....
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on the buy side is always small buying.....many many small units buying.
on the sell side is huge quantity ppl dumping.
let's say now at 2,900 got 600BTC at sell side.

so on the way up is slow incremental, downside is very volatile
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nope..got 2 biji only..that time price around ~$1000
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$300,000,000
Fuk
Better sell it off, since eth is unlimited supply

Or, the price jump up to $1000 and he will be crying like a baby.

After all, crypto world still 80% on speculating game than doing a real economic trading

Random people just gonna be a millionre. Mostly a geek
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i say hodl for him

and he better add another million eth to his portfolio

wif eth marketcap fast tailgating btc marketcap,who know what will happen
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on the buy side is always small buying.....many many small units buying.
on the sell side is huge quantity ppl dumping.
let's say now at 2,900 got 600BTC at sell side.

so on the way up is slow incremental, downside is very volatile
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u talk bout bitcoin or stocks???
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QUOTE(acer7254 @ Jun 6 2017, 01:06 PM)
$300,000,000
Fuk
Better sell it off, since eth is unlimited supply

Or, the price jump up to $1000 and he will be crying like a baby.

After all, crypto world still 80% on speculating game than doing a real economic trading

Random people just gonna be a millionre. Mostly a geek
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You not millionaire in this cryto ka?
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$300,000,000
Fuk
Better sell it off, since eth is unlimited supply

Or, the price jump up to $1000 and he will be crying like a baby.

After all, crypto world still 80% on speculating game than doing a real economic trading

Random people just gonna be a millionre. Mostly a geek
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Out of curiosity, how do you sell it? if a few million turns up in your bank account, won't everyone be suspicious?
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 01:14 PM)
u talk bout bitcoin or stocks???
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bitcoin la.
the demand is there but the seller at anytime can push it down.
buyer are all small buyer, sellers are all very big size
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bitcoin la.
the demand is there but the seller at anytime can push it down.
buyer are all small buyer, sellers are all very big size
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u mean big shark milionair could crash btc everyday???
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Good to some make a good fortune in crypto
Ayam did a a bit jelly to miss the opportunity
underestimate the millennials and their obsession with the coin,
But Ayam will still prefer to make small peanut in conventional stock
May be Ayam can consider some serious crypto coin portfolio after some big correction, (if there isn't big correction soon Ayam can wait very long)
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jun 6 2017, 02:07 PM)
on the buy side is always small buying.....many many small units buying.
on the sell side is huge quantity ppl dumping.
let's say now at 2,900 got 600BTC at sell side.

so on the way up is slow incremental, downside is very volatile
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Theres a difference between dumping and que to sell....

Again

Theres a big difference between an investor, trader and hedger....

Details lie in the fineprint....

If you dont master this u will forever be behind on that illusion
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So many successful stories in btc trading...how about those unsuccessful one?

I'm sure there are some failures when comes to investment especially high volatile like btc/eth

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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Jun 6 2017, 01:38 PM)
So many successful stories in btc trading...how about those unsuccessful one?

I'm sure there are some failures when comes to investment especially high volatile like btc/eth
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the volatility of the crypto is the fun part, at least for me.

for my bro case, he invested 30k sgd overall in alt coin, today the ROI is more than 200k usd and still climbing as the coin are recycled with PoS mining.
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Jun 6 2017, 01:38 PM)
So many successful stories in btc trading...how about those unsuccessful one?

I'm sure there are some failures when comes to investment especially high volatile like btc/eth
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Unsuccessful one....yet to come. Last 2-3 weeks got major correction and it recover fairy quickly.
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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 6 2017, 01:41 PM)
Unsuccessful one....yet to come. Last 2-3 weeks got major correction and it recover fairy quickly.
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I was at the part when I mined BTC with ASIC miner cost USD5k in 2014.

That time BTC worth about USD1k, and it crashed to USD300 before i managed to sell it off, I lost about 6 BTC due to scam exchange.

After that case, all my crypto are kept in cold wallet and only be traded if necessary.

Managed to cover losses by selling my miner for USD8k though.
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I was at the part when I mined BTC with ASIC miner cost USD5k in 2014.

That time BTC worth about USD1k, and it crashed to USD300 before i managed to sell it off, I lost about 6 BTC due to scam exchange.

After that case, all my crypto are kept in cold wallet and only be traded if necessary.

Managed to cover losses by selling my miner for USD8k though.
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So, most of the unsuccessful stories about cryptocurrency trading market come from scam/wallet stolen due to security issue?

In conventional trading/investment normally ppl will buy at low sell at high or buy on the rumors sell on the news approach...same applies for crytocurrency market as well? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 01:21 PM)
u mean big shark milionair could crash btc everyday???
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yala. u have 1000BTC u can push anywhere u want
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yala. u have 1000BTC u can push anywhere u want
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not saying ur wrong

someone cashed like few bilion recently,deswai crash recently

but look at how fast it returns

bitcoin does have values,maybe hard fork and slow transaction the one that will kill it
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So many successful stories in btc trading...how about those unsuccessful one?

I'm sure there are some failures when comes to investment especially high volatile like btc/eth
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mt gox hacking

so many ppl lose money,that not including weak hand who seen price crashed then sold at loss
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u mine use what???

laptop?
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QUOTE(SomaCruz89 @ Jun 6 2017, 01:48 PM)
So, most of the unsuccessful stories about cryptocurrency trading market come from scam/wallet stolen due to security issue?

In conventional trading/investment normally ppl will buy at low sell at high or buy on the rumors sell on the news approach...same applies for crytocurrency market as well?  hmm.gif
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For me it's due to greediness.

The same applies to crypto, but it's volatile and thing can change in just few minutes, and there's no break-time for crypto as well.
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Out of curiosity, how do you sell it? if a few million turns up in your bank account, won't everyone be suspicious?
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use bitcoin to buy gold

lelel

then convert to cash bit by bit
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u mine use what???

laptop?
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No la, gila. I build this machine approximately RM4k. Just normal mix and match GPU with CPU. Monthly about USD300 return. Most probably can breakeven around 3 months.

I'll use ETH to cover my cost, and keep the DCR as it have potential. CPU mining XMR. Not alot, but that's that. Electricity maybe telan about RM400 max per month.

Alot of modification and undervolting done to keep GPU cold.

Planning to build second rig with more GPU after breakeven. Not sure how long it will remain profitable but maybe give or take a year.

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No la, gila. I build this machine approximately RM4k. Just normal mix and match GPU with CPU. Monthly about USD300 return. Most probably can breakeven around 3 months.

I'll use ETH to cover my cost, and keep the DCR as it have potential. CPU mining XMR. Not alot, but that's that. Electricity maybe telan about RM400 max per month.

Alot of modification and undervolting done to keep GPU cold.

Planning to build second rig with more GPU after breakeven. Not sure how long it will remain profitable but maybe give or take a year.
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300 usd???fuuuu

list spec pliz
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the volatility of the crypto is the fun part, at least for me.

for my bro case, he invested 30k sgd overall in alt coin, today the ROI is more than 200k usd and still climbing as the coin are recycled with PoS mining.
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How does he expect to realize his profits?
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 6 2017, 01:59 PM)
No la, gila. I build this machine approximately RM4k. Just normal mix and match GPU with CPU. Monthly about USD300 return. Most probably can breakeven around 3 months.

I'll use ETH to cover my cost, and keep the DCR as it have potential. CPU mining XMR. Not alot, but that's that. Electricity maybe telan about RM400 max per month.

Alot of modification and undervolting done to keep GPU cold.

Planning to build second rig with more GPU after breakeven. Not sure how long it will remain profitable but maybe give or take a year.
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Lite coin mining is most profitable
With 50 mhash per day, can yield 1-2 coin per day
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 02:01 PM)
300 usd???fuuuu

list spec pliz
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just go find cheaper one and utilize all PCI lane with pcie riser if u want go full force with mining.

im taking care of all my h/w so it have resell value in future.

my gpu temp at around 60c-70c so there's no long term damage done to any part in my cpu.
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Unrealized profit is pointless - if you have even just 50 bitcoin, how long would it take for you to actually realize the profit and turn it into cold hard cash?


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QUOTE(cocbum4 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:04 PM)
Lite coin mining is most profitable
With 50 mhash per day, can yield 1-2 coin per day
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i did not touch LTC as they have ASIC miners around.

ETH is ASIC resistant.
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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 02:08 PM)
Unrealized profit is pointless - if you have even just 50 bitcoin, how long would it take for you to actually realize the profit and turn it into cold hard cash?
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Try localbitcoins.com , you will be able to sell BTC at slightly inflated price with immediate payment into your local bank account.

Been there done that. Overall process took about 10 min average with a reputable sellers.

Used maybank and i reused the money into purchasing machine to mine.

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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:10 PM)
Try localbitcoins.com , you will be able to sell BTC at slightly inflated price with immediate payment into your local bank account.

Been there done that. Overall process took about 10 min average with a reputable sellers.
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And how much bitcoin did you manage to sell at that time? 1? 2?
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And how much bitcoin did you manage to sell at that time? 1? 2?
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Around RM5k when BTC is around USD1.4k-ish.

The rest I keep for crypto trading as I earn USD20~USD100 average per day. No rush in withdrawing the fund anyway.
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And how much bitcoin did you manage to sell at that time? 1? 2?
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Yea can you sell like 1000 BTC easily?

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Try localbitcoins.com , you will be able to sell BTC at slightly inflated price with immediate payment into your local bank account.

Been there done that. Overall process took about 10 min average with a reputable sellers.

Used maybank and i reused the money into purchasing machine to mine.
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Do you have experience in large volume? what might happen if we sell 1000? if you want to go in, might as well go in big, otherwise what's the point.

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i5 7400
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rx580 8gb x 2
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8gb ram

just go find cheaper one and utilize all PCI lane with pcie riser if u want go full force with mining.

im taking care of all my h/w so it have resell value in future.

my gpu temp at around 60c-70c so there's no long term damage done to any part in my cpu.
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i saw someone want to buy 8 rx580 in finance tered,how much the roi if 8 gpu?
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:12 PM)
Around RM5k when BTC is around USD1.4k-ish.

The rest I keep for crypto trading as I earn USD20~USD100 average per day. No rush in withdrawing the fund anyway.
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That was ages ago, so it's irrelevant.

It's not about whether one is in a rush to withdraw it or not, its about the liquidity of the investment. It's especially dangerous with bitcoin if it's very illiquid since there's no tangible asset that you can benefit from.

Some people might have missed this aspect of investment, liquidity.
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i saw someone want to buy 8 rx580 in finance tered,how much the roi if 8 gpu?
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After power and cooling and maintenance, I wonder if there's any left. Besides, people have large server farms, one GPU is kind of micro-scale.

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Unrealized profit is pointless - if you have even just 50 bitcoin, how long would it take for you to actually realize the profit and turn it into cold hard cash?
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if 50 btc

better go fly other country go open usa/korea/china/japan/europe bank account
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 01:35 PM)
Theres a difference between dumping and que to sell....

Again

Theres a big difference between an investor, trader and hedger....

Details lie in the fineprint....

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the buying pressure is all very very small quantity bro.
where as queue to sell is very high. dunt forget BTC was just around 1800 a couple of months ago. so plenty of ppl clearing their things around 3,000 for a 66% profit
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 6 2017, 02:14 PM)
Do you have experience in large volume? what might happen if we sell 1000? if you want to go in, might as well go in big, otherwise what's the point.
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No, btw, don't ever do large volume unless you want to attract attention by BNM. No one in the right mind will do such a large quantity. So you don't have to think until that far.

QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 02:15 PM)
i saw someone want to buy 8 rx580 in finance tered,how much the roi if 8 gpu?
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Powerdraw 160W if not optimized.

If you undervolt etc you might get much lower wattage. Do the math. But no matter how much GPU u buy, you will get ROI around 3-5 months approx as more machine mean you need aircond 24/7 as well especially in our country.

user posted image

That's my current effective mining speed with temp.

There's regular restart for my PC as I was doing optimization for the last few days. It is very stable now and it will run 24/7 with weekly reboot once now.

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if 50 btc

better go fly other country go open usa/korea/china/japan/europe bank account
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No point trading if there's no liquidity then. We already have the equivalent of 50 btc in local investments alone, and all of it can be liquidated tomorrow if it comes to that, legal too.

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After power and cooling and maintenance, I wonder if there's any left. Besides, people have large server farms, one GPU is kind of micro-scale.
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but a13solut3 above said wif 2 gpu he get 300 usd per month?
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Yea can you sell like 1000 BTC easily?
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It's just like a commodity

As long as there are people willing to buy your coins, you will see cold hard cash within minutes

But if people decided to buy 0.25, and another one is buying 0.5coins

Then it might take a day to 2 for your btc to turn to cash
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I'd be wary in investing cold hard cash now in bitcoins as it seems that it's a very illiquid investment at the current buying/selling price - and your only source of profit is from capital appreciation - unlike stocks at the very least even if you hold you'll get dividends each year.

Only way forward if you'd wanna invest in bitcoin now is to mine your own coin - but this also involves actual hard cash since you'd need to pay bills and such.

It would be a different thing altogether if bitcoin is widely recognized as a global currency like USD and ha actual usage in real life (e.g - buying a bottle of water at my next door grocery shop). If that is the future of bitcoin then heck dump all your entire life savings in it.
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 02:20 PM)
but a13solut3 above said wif 2 gpu he get 300 usd per month?
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That's why you need to pick the correct coin aka ASIC resistant.

Difficulty will rise and eventually it will reach certain point that it is not profitable anymore.
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It's just like a commodity

As long as there are people willing to buy your coins, you will see cold hard cash within minutes

But if people decided to buy 0.25, and another one is buying 0.5coins

Then it might take a day to 2 for your btc to turn to cash
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So the spread is wide due to low liquidity, like most local REITs?
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No point trading if there's no liquidity then. We already have the equivalent of 50 btc in local investments alone, and all of it can be liquidated tomorrow if it comes to that, legal too.
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1 btc = 10000 myr

10 btc is 100k myr

if u dat rich,no need to bother lah,i bet riza aziz would just laugh at crypto
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 01:53 PM)
not saying ur wrong

someone cashed like few bilion recently,deswai crash recently

but look at how fast it returns

bitcoin does have values,maybe hard fork and slow transaction the one that will kill it
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I'm just telling u all the buy side is small scale ppl buying every second.
the big buyers are all around 2k area n big seller around 3k.

previously before it touch 2700 I already said big seller there, then it just waterfall down when it touched there
because the seller volume is super huge. imagine every few seconds ppl buy 1BTC, and they hit a seller with 1,400BTC to sell. lol
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I'd be wary in investing cold hard cash now in bitcoins as it seems that it's a very illiquid investment at the current buying/selling price - and your only source of profit is from capital appreciation - unlike stocks at the very least even if you hold you'll get dividends each year.

Only way forward if you'd wanna invest in bitcoin now is to mine your own coin - but this also involves actual hard cash since you'd need to pay bills and such.

It would be a different thing altogether if bitcoin is widely recognized as a global currency like USD and ha actual usage in real life (e.g - buying a bottle of water at my next door grocery shop). If that is the future of bitcoin then heck dump all your entire life savings in it.
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Yep

Bitcoin currently is a commodity rather than a currency

The price goes up because people believe the price will go up
In the end everyone is converting coins back to USD or EUROS for things

And currently USA and CN is trying to make payments easier than ever, these dedicated digital currency will go nowhere.

Why would I need bitcoin when I can pay for bills and my bowl of noodle using QR codes, and transaction can be done in China Yuan , secured and regulated
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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 02:21 PM)
I'd be wary in investing cold hard cash now in bitcoins as it seems that it's a very illiquid investment at the current buying/selling price - and your only source of profit is from capital appreciation - unlike stocks at the very least even if you hold you'll get dividends each year.

Only way forward if you'd wanna invest in bitcoin now is to mine your own coin - but this also involves actual hard cash since you'd need to pay bills and such.

It would be a different thing altogether if bitcoin is widely recognized as a global currency like USD and ha actual usage in real life (e.g - buying a bottle of water at my next door grocery shop). If that is the future of bitcoin then heck dump all your entire life savings in it.
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LOL 50 BTC less than 1 mil.. already got liquidity issue, summore want to trade. Dump 600K in UT (for instance) and no one even blinks smile.gif

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QUOTE(Subang Nuclear Reactor @ Jun 6 2017, 02:20 PM)
It's just like a commodity

As long as there are people willing to buy your coins, you will see cold hard cash within minutes

But if people decided to buy 0.25, and another one is buying 0.5coins

Then it might take a day to 2 for your btc to turn to cash
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It is NOT like commodity.

Commodity is widely used in actual real life by almost all businesses, you get actual tangible benefit from the commodity itself - e.g, sugar as a commodity is traded in HUGE volumes because businesses NEEDS it as a raw material - people don't NEED bitcoins. Businesses don't NEED bitcoins. Well, not yet I guess.

And btw, commodity prices are mostly low - commodity is traded at high volume, bitcoin is the other way around, which poses a different set of risks altogether.
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:22 PM)
That's why you need to pick the correct coin aka ASIC resistant.

Difficulty will rise and eventually it will reach certain point that it is not profitable anymore.
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other than eth

what else asic resistant coin?
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 02:25 PM)
other than eth

what else asic resistant coin?
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You can search for all coin algorithm, there are few are resistant, some are not even profitable with graphic card, but efficient using only computer processor.
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Out of curiosity, how do you sell it? if a few million turns up in your bank account, won't everyone be suspicious?
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1. Open private bank account in other country that is crypto friendly (swiss, singapore)
2. Sell all in one shot using reputable / regulated OTC boutique broker in that country, send the cash to new account
3. If still want to stay here, figure out how to declare so you can send back here and spend. Probably can try declare as capital gains and foreign derived income, non-taxable
4. If don't want stay here anymore, migrate like and pump the money there.

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You can search for all coin algorithm, there are few are resistant, some are not even profitable with graphic card, but efficient using only computer processor.
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cpu doesnt affect eth??

low end cpu for eth also ok?
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 02:24 PM)
1 btc = 10000 myr

10 btc is 100k myr

if u dat rich,no need to bother lah,i bet riza aziz would just laugh at crypto
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100k myr is really not a lot

Do you know you can hold 100k of cash with just one hand

I've been thinking of venturing myself deeper into BTC but seriously its too much of a hassle and risk.




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QUOTE(Subang Nuclear Reactor @ Jun 6 2017, 02:24 PM)
Yep

Bitcoin currently is a commodity rather than a currency

The price goes up because people believe the price will go up
In the end everyone is converting coins back to USD or EUROS for things

And currently USA and CN is trying to make payments easier than ever, these dedicated digital currency will go nowhere.

Why would I need bitcoin when I can pay for bills and my bowl of noodle using QR codes, and transaction can be done in China Yuan , secured and regulated
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Bitcoin and commodity are so different that they're in two separate galaxies altogether dude.
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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 02:25 PM)
It is NOT like commodity.

Commodity is widely used in actual real life by almost all businesses, you get actual tangible benefit from the commodity itself - e.g, sugar as a commodity is traded in HUGE volumes because businesses NEEDS it as a raw material - people don't NEED bitcoins. Businesses don't NEED bitcoins. Well, not yet I guess.

And btw, commodity prices are mostly low - commodity is traded at high volume, bitcoin is the other way around, which poses a different set of risks altogether.
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But yeah how do you categorized it, it isn't currency anyway

And you can't say that it's precious metal like gold and silver, because gold and silver albeit limited, they are consumed in a lot of processes, mainly electronics or as catalysts

Maybe there is a new term to define bitcoin
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QUOTE(Subang Nuclear Reactor @ Jun 6 2017, 02:30 PM)
100k myr is really not a lot

Do you know you can hold 100k of cash with just one hand

I've been thinking of venturing myself deeper into BTC but seriously its too much of a hassle and risk.
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yea

but bnm too busybody

good thing bout bitcoin,u r your own bank,no one can freeze your bitcoin,doesnt matter if the coin come from halal/illegal source
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 02:30 PM)
cpu doesnt affect eth??

low end cpu for eth also ok?
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You will die if you use your CPU to mine ETH sweat.gif

Besides that, only one CPU do mining will not be sufficient to farm any coin la lol.


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QUOTE(Subang Nuclear Reactor @ Jun 6 2017, 02:32 PM)
But yeah how do you categorized it, it isn't currency anyway

And you can't say that it's precious metal like gold and silver, because gold and silver albeit limited, they are consumed in a lot of processes, mainly electronics or as catalysts

Maybe there is a new term to define bitcoin
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At this point it's just speculation - I wouldn't call bitcoin an investment. People are speculating on bitcoins potential.

Gotta be careful in putting your own hard cash into a speculation - it's always a high risk high reward thing.
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At this point it's just speculation - I wouldn't call bitcoin an investment. People are speculating on bitcoins potential.

Gotta be careful in putting your own hard cash into a speculation - it's always a high risk high reward thing.
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you could buy vpn servcies wif bitocin

and oppresed venezuelan,who had no money, can convert bitcoin into food,is that still worthless by your count?
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 02:24 PM)
1 btc = 10000 myr

10 btc is 100k myr

if u dat rich,no need to bother lah,i bet riza aziz would just laugh at crypto
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That's not rich, 600k won't even buy a house in a good location these days. Rich is like 100mil, that is rich maybe. And even then it's only 20mil+ USD.

Foreign buying on KLSE yesterday was Rm189m smile.gif




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That's not rich, 600k won't even buy a house in a good location these days. Rich is like 100mil, that is rich maybe. And even then it's only 20mil+ USD.

Foreign buying on KLSE yesterday was Rm189m smile.gif
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/...42o&sh=6f01b671

this guy 100m richer bcoz he bought it in 2014,are you gonna say he stupid bcoz he buy that lot?

even he work entire life,he couldnt be milionaire for all we know

now he can convert the eth slowly,to cash
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:08 PM)
i did not touch LTC as they have ASIC miners around.

ETH is ASIC resistant.
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How jew sure there is no asic for other coin
May be not for public just like ant miner
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1. Open private bank account in other country that is crypto friendly (swiss, singapore)
2. Sell all in one shot using reputable / regulated OTC boutique broker in that country, send the cash to new account
3. If still want to stay here, figure out how to declare so you can send back here and spend. Probably can try declare as capital gains and foreign derived income, non-taxable
4. If don't want stay here anymore, migrate like and pump the money there.
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They will let you open one? you have no money, only the expected unrealized millions from BTC that might not even be there after the account is open.

So if they let you open one, the next step is to send a few million dollars worth of bitcoin to a complete stranger in the hope that he will deposit a few million dollars in your account, am I right?





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QUOTE(cocbum4 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:44 PM)
How jew sure there is no asic for other coin
May be not for public just like ant miner
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jgn fikir banyak sangat la.. rosak otak tau.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/...42o&sh=6f01b671

this guy 100m richer bcoz he bought it in 2014,are you gonna say he stupid bcoz he buy that lot?

even he work entire life,he couldnt be milionaire for all we know

now he can convert the eth slowly,to cash
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How would that work in the Malaysian context?
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 02:32 PM)
yea

but bnm too busybody

good thing bout bitcoin,u r your own bank,no one can freeze your bitcoin,doesnt matter if the coin come from halal/illegal source
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so just as the saying goes

it's regulated currency vs non-regulated currency all over again.

we can do it freely right now just because it ain't regulated in malaysia. unlike in united states, you have to pay tax for bitcoin capital gain, unlike in china, you can only trade bitcoin personally and all financial institutions are prohibited from trading or advising bitcoin trades

i for once support regulating currency, so does more than half of the countries in this world

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They will let you open one? you have no money, only the expected unrealized millions from BTC that might not even be there after the account is open.

So if they let you open one, the next step is to send a few million dollars worth of bitcoin to a complete stranger in the hope that he will deposit a few million dollars in your account, am I right?
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With your kind of attitude whatever also susah lah
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How would that work in the Malaysian context?
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i dunno

i buy gold,or open bank akaun in other country i guess

why u so concern wif liquidity

if a person stumble large voulme oil/rseources/land,it will be hard for any joe schome to cash all of it too instant
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:32 PM)
You will die if you use your CPU to mine ETH  sweat.gif

Besides that, only one CPU do mining will not be sufficient to farm any coin la lol.
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boss, i still remember u mining in 2015 time when btc 1k value, from 2015 to 2017 did you still continue mining via GPU, or now only start ETH?
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i dunno

i buy gold,or open bank akaun in other country i guess

why u so concern wif liquidity

if a person stumble large voulme oil/rseources/land,it will be hard for any joe schome to cash all of it too instant
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They key word is "large volume". Apparently 600k is "large volume" in the local bitcoin scene. Which is interesting because in the regulated markets 600k is a negligible amount of volume smile.gif

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so just as the saying goes

it's regulated currency vs non-regulated currency all over again.

we can do it freely right now just because it ain't regulated in malaysia. unlike in united states, you have to pay tax for bitcoin capital gain, unlike in china, you can only trade bitcoin personally and all financial institutions are prohibited from trading or advising bitcoin trades

i for once support regulating currency, so does more than half of the countries in this world
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but countries starting up to support bitcoin too

like japan

if japan could support decentralized,why not somebody else
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With your kind of attitude whatever also susah lah
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What attitude, I'm just asking if that is the way you do it smile.gif

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They key word is "large volume". Apparently 600k is "large volume" in the local bitcoin scene. Which is interesting because  in the regulated markets 600k a negligible amount of volume smile.gif
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maybe someone should try cashed out 100 btc from luno exchanges,who knew
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 02:40 PM)
you could buy vpn servcies wif bitocin

and oppresed venezuelan,who had no money, can convert bitcoin into food,is that still worthless by your count?
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VPN service? You don't need vpn service. Compared to other investment, yes it's worthless.

Oppressed Venezuelan who have no money would get bitcoin.....how? No money to buy food but he has bitcoin? Lel, stop trolling dude.
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jgn fikir banyak sangat la.. rosak otak tau.
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What attitude, I'm just asking if that is the way you do it smile.gif
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Alright frankly speaking, everyone should to do their own due dilligence and research before any action that involves any money.

When dealing with such potential gains, it's best to travel out and meet the banks and brokers in person to see what arrangements can be done.

If we are skeptical of them, they are equally skeptical of us as well. Unless your source of crypto cannot pass their AML/KYC vetting, that's another story smile.gif
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maybe someone should try cashed out 100 btc from luno exchanges,who knew
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The market depth there won't be able to absorb 100 btc sell in one shot, maybe need to spread out over many trades to avoid slippage. Though their prices look very inviting (sometimes 200+ usd over bitstamp)

Also Luno max per day cash withdrawal is RM300K for Lvl 3 verifieds. They "say" lah, but when crunch time comes, donno oh.

coughNIGERIAcoughCOMPANYcough

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but countries starting up to support bitcoin too

like japan

if japan could support decentralized,why not somebody else
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bitcoin is no banned in japan, but they arent treated as a currency, they are treated as an asset

in other worlds, buying something with bitcoin in japan is like the barter system

USA, the european union, and China are all finding ways to regulate bitcoins

there are researches going on at chinese universities regarding the blockchain

the EU members are having meetings trying to control cryptocurrency

all because of what you said, they couldn't, or hardly able track the transaction

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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 03:00 PM)
VPN service? You don't need vpn service. Compared to other investment, yes it's worthless.

Oppressed Venezuelan who have no money would get bitcoin.....how? No money to buy food but he has bitcoin? Lel, stop trolling dude.
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they have cheap(acording lejen near free) electricity

http://www.fsunews.com/story/life/2017/04/...nomy/100259798/

http://reason.com/archives/2016/11/28/the-...gerous-world-of

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/...5124105593.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldvi...o-shut-it-down/

am i still trollin dude? smile.gif
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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 03:00 PM)
VPN service? You don't need vpn service. Compared to other investment, yes it's worthless.

Oppressed Venezuelan who have no money would get bitcoin.....how? No money to buy food but he has bitcoin? Lel, stop trolling dude.
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I would like to correct u. The Venezuelan has few way. One those working oversea can exchange foreign currency for bitcoin before remit back to family members account , 2 set up mining rig although getting risk arrested 3. Buy mining contract for those can afford it. They have no option. Their government imposed limit on how much they can withdraw from own account , their supermarket is open for few hour and no guarantee any food or thing to be sold besides too expensive . Those who can buy from black market
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bitcoin is no banned in japan, but they arent treated as a currency, they are treated as an asset

in other worlds, buying something with bitcoin in japan is like the barter system

USA, the european union, and China are all finding ways to regulate bitcoins

there are researches going on at chinese universities regarding the blockchain

the EU members are having meetings trying to control cryptocurrency

all because of what you said, they couldn't, or hardly able track the transaction
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and pretty much everybody in bitcoin reject it

its the feature of bitcoin,why they all wanna make it another bank

well for now,at least japan siding wif em
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and pretty much everybody in bitcoin reject it

its the feature of bitcoin,why they all wanna make it another bank

well for now,at least japan siding wif em
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you're wrong

half of those, or more than half is in bitcoin just for the money, they make money, they convert it to regularized currency and spend it

there's less than one tenth of bitcoin holder aiming to use bitcoin like how it was projected to be used.

all in all, it's an investment, it isnt a currency
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QUOTE(Spectreoutreach @ Jun 6 2017, 03:14 PM)
I would like to correct u.  The Venezuelan has few way.  One those working oversea can exchange  foreign currency for bitcoin before remit back to family  members account ,  2 set up mining rig although getting risk arrested  3. Buy mining  contract  for those can afford it.  They have no option.  Their government imposed limit on how much they can withdraw from own account ,  their supermarket is open for few hour and no guarantee any food or thing to be sold  besides too expensive  . Those who can buy from black market
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I'm not talking about Venezuelan investors - I'm talking about specifically about his stupid example of a hungry Venezuelan.

If a Venezuelan is hungry and has no money, he can use bitcoins to buy food.

Do you not see the stupidity in that sentence? If a Venezuelan is hungry and has no money, how the heck is he supposed to have bitcoin to begin with? And if he is hungry and he has money, why the heck would he change it to bitcoin to buy food?
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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 03:18 PM)
Nope, you're not trolling. Just stupid. I don't blame you for being stupid though.

Here's something for you to think for a second - why would a hungry Venezuelan spend his time (cost - he could be doing something else other than mining) mining for bitcoins, building his PC (cost), paying for electricity (cost too no matter how cheap it is), and bear the risk of the government invalidating all his bitcoin just so he can buy food?

If the hungry Venezuelan had real cold hard cash and he's hungry, he's better off just using that cash to buy food. Hence your example is worthless.

Investing is not as simple as "oh shit that thing is going up in value/price" or "everyone is going on the bandwagon" or "a bunch of people are doing it", as there's so many other factors to consider when investing - jumping on an investment during such a run is a recipe for disaster if you're not planning properly.

A hungry Venezuelan is definitely not proper planning. Lel.
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there is venezuela stealin free electricty,and they mined it

QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 03:18 PM)
N bear the risk of the government invalidating all his bitcoin just so he can buy food?


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how the fuck the govt gonna invalidate bitcoin???

they started became bad recently,some of managed to get asic miner prior

if they had hard cash,why the fuck they need to buy bitcoin again??this one i agree wif you.........bcoz they r mining it
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Do you not see the stupidity in that sentence? If a Venezuelan is hungry and has no money, how the heck is he supposed to have bitcoin to begin with? And if he is hungry and he has money, why the heck would he change it to bitcoin to buy food?
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bcoz he goddam mined it!!!! doh.gif
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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 03:21 PM)
I'm not talking about Venezuelan investors - I'm talking about specifically about his stupid example of a hungry Venezuelan.

If a Venezuelan is hungry and has no money, he can use bitcoins to buy food.

Do you not see the stupidity in that sentence? If a Venezuelan is hungry and has no money, how the heck is he supposed to have bitcoin to begin with? And if he is hungry and he has money, why the heck would he change it to bitcoin to buy food?
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I already give out 3 real life example so that argument is invalid. . Do you know how much the cost of food, medicine, phone in Venezuela black market?

This post has been edited by Spectreoutreach: Jun 6 2017, 03:35 PM
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Lol, and mining bitcoin is FREE? You don't need to buy the computer to mine it? Buying a computer to mine bitcoin doesn't use MONEY?

Are you seriously that dumb? If a Venezuelan has money to buy a computer and he's hungry - again, why the hell would he buy a computer to mine the bitcoin and pay for food using the bitcoin when he can just use actual money to buy food?

Sheesh.
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not all venezulea that bad luck,they still alive till now,they must get food water from somewhere

and it hast been a decade since they spiral down,they still can sell car,tv,shoes whateva.......any fortune grandma left

u rely disregard all the news site who reporting???i dont made this thing up,go read from reddit.............u truly believe in all entirety of venezeulan land,theres not a single machine mining crypto???


or they could just use their old machine back when venezuela still ok doh.gif ..............just keep em runnin wif that free electric
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QUOTE(Spectreoutreach @ Jun 6 2017, 03:31 PM)
I already  give out 3  real life example so that argument is invalid. .  Do you know how much the cost of food,  medicine,  phone  in Venezuela black market?
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Wasn't trying to argue with you as my earlier argument was with the dumbass who suggested that a hungry Venezuelan with no money should use bitcoin to buy food, but since you want an argument, well now, here's a question to you -

Do you actually live in Venezuela? Oh wait....you live in Malaysia. So why would it matter to you - an individual with bitcoin in Malaysia, how bitcoin is being used in Venezuela?

Before you even try to say "it matters because I can sell bitcoins to them and they can use it" - I'm going to say why the fuck would a Venezuelan BUYS bitcoins from you with REAL MONEY (assuming he has REAL MONEY) just so he can spend bitcoin in Venezuela, instead of just using his real money?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:54 PM)
boss, i still remember u mining in 2015 time when btc 1k value, from 2015 to 2017 did you still continue mining via GPU, or now only start ETH?
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I mined BTC last time then I just keep rolling over my fund until now through Poloniex.

Just started mining ETH using GPU again recently as I see that it is a good time to jump in now.

Easier to resell the mining rigs in future as well as all parts are salvageable. Just tweaking and testing very time consuming at beginning.
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 03:36 PM)
not all venezulea that bad luck,they still alive till now,they must get food water from somewhere

and it hast been a decade since they spiral down,they still can sell car,tv,shoes whateva.......any fortune grandma left

u rely disregard all the news site who reporting???i dont made this thing up,go read from reddit.............u truly believe in all entirety of venezeulan land,theres not a single machine mining crypto???
or they could just use their old machine back when venezuela still ok doh.gif ..............just keep em runnin wif that free electric
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Just now you said a hungry Venezuelan with no money, now you're talking about Venezuelan with a mining machine from years ago. Make up your mind. If a Venezuelan has mining machine from years ago means he HAS money and he is not hungry.

And now you're saying they should sell their car and buy/mine bitcoin with the money they get from selling their car and then use bitcoin to buy food? Seriously? Lel.
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QUOTE(win2000 @ Jun 6 2017, 03:37 PM)
how much for a mining rig that can mine 1 bitcoin for 2 month actually?
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You won't be able to afford and sustain any rigs that are capable of doing so biggrin.gif
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If a Venezuelan has mining machine from years ago means he HAS money and he is not hungry.


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Wasn't trying to argue with you as my earlier argument was with the dumbass who suggested that a hungry Venezuelan with no money should use bitcoin to buy food, but since you want an argument, well now, here's a question to you -

Do you actually live in Venezuela? Oh wait....you live in Malaysia. So why would it matter to you - an individual with bitcoin in Malaysia, how bitcoin is being used in Venezuela?

Before you even try to say "it matters because I can sell bitcoins to them and they can use it" - I'm going to say why the fuck would a Venezuelan BUYS bitcoins from you with REAL MONEY (assuming he has REAL MONEY) just so he can spend bitcoin in Venezuela, instead of just using his real money?
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Venezuelans are losing weight amid food shortages, skyrocketing prices

By Stefano Pozzebon and Patrick Gillespie May 3, 2017: 10:47 AM ET
Mariana Mejias can't afford to buy a bag of rice in Venezuela.
She lives in Mariche, an extremely poor neighborhood in the country's capital, Caracas, which suffers from severe food and medical shortages like the rest of the country.
If the government doesn't provide a subsidized monthly bag of food, Mejias would go hungry. Skyrocketing prices have made food at her local market prohibitive. The monthly food bag, worth 10,000 bolivares ($2.25), includes rice, milk, pasta, beans and a few other items.

A bag of rice at Mejias' local store goes for 8,000 bolivares -- out of reach for her monthly income of 219,000 bolivares or $49 on the unofficial but often used exchange rate calculated by dolartoday.com.
"Things are horrible here, I don't know how people are even surviving," says Mejias, a 62-year-old house cleaner who earns minimum wage plus a government pension.
Related: GM officially leaves Venezuela
Venezuela's socialist government, led by President Nicolas Maduro, raised the minimum wage 60% on Sunday to 200,021 bolivares ($45) a month, including food stamps.
But that won't buy much at the supermarket.
In March, a basket of basic grocery items -- including eggs, milk and fruit -- cost 772,614 bolivares, or close to four times the monthly minimum wage, according to the Venezuela-based Center of Social Analysis and Documentation, or CENDAS in the Spanish acronym.
Food shortages and soaring prices have led to troubling results. Last year, the average Venezuelan living in extreme poverty lost about 19 pounds due to the lack of food. Many of its citizens had to skip meals, according to a national poll.
Related: Venezuela raises minimum wage 60%

The food crisis is worsening as Venezuela dives deeper into chaos. On Monday, Maduro issued a decree that may allow his party to rewrite the country's constitution more to its liking. On Tuesday, Maduro suspended Venezeulans' right to carry firearms as weeks of anti-government protests stretch into the spring.
Amid the political chaos, food price hikes are staggering. A carton of 30 eggs cost 9,600 bolivares in March, up from 1,180 bolivares in March 2015, CENDAS reports.
"Food prices have gone sky high and the minimum wage is not enough for basic needs," says Eugenia Morin, 59, who describes herself as a middle-class housewife. She protested against Maduro on Tuesday.
While the 60% minimum wage hike may sound significant, inflation is expected to rise 720% this year and over 2,000% next year, according to the IMF. One bolivar is worth less than one cent.
Prices for basics are skyrocketing each month. Compared to February, prices in March for milk and cheese rose 33%, meat 19%, fish 17% and fruits 14%. Even mayonnaise cost 11% more.
Related: Venezuela only has $10 billion left

That's only the beginning. For toiletries the increases are even worse. Deodorant prices shot up 93% in March from February; detergent 62%; shaving razors 53%; toilet paper 27%.
Venezuelans either face food and toiletry shortages at supermarkets with empty shelves -- or skyrocketing prices for whatever items are available.
Medical shortages also illustrate the country's humanitarian crisis.
"If you need to have an operation, nowadays, you must bring your own medicines to the hospital," adds Morin, the housewife. "There are no supplies to attend the most basic emergencies."

Related: Cash-strapped Venezuela gave $500k to Trump's inauguration
Food shortages are the result of the government's long running policies. It focused on exporting oil and largely abandoned its abundant farmland. The government started importing the vast majority of food for its citizens.
But even when oil prices were high, that policy was barely sustainable -- food shortages starting popping up when oil was worth over $100 a barrel.
But with oil now hovering around $50 a barrel, Maduro's administration can't afford to import enough food and also pay down its debts to foreign creditors. For now, it's prioritized debt payments over shipping in food.
That end result: rising hunger and no visibility of where the next meal will come from.
One Venezuelan spent hours on Tuesday morning in Caracas waiting for a grocery store to open, hoping to buy food. The 60-year old man, who declined to give his name, wasn't hopeful he'd be able to buy food.
"Nobody knows what's going to arrive or what we could find inside. So we queue almost every day of the week, losing time and working hours to look for food," he said.
May 03
CARACAS

Focus on last paragraph please

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so you count bitcoin as money??something valuable,that can be converted into food??
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Lel, you obviously lack comprehension.

Please go back to school.
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Just now you said a hungry Venezuelan with no money, now you're talking about Venezuelan with a mining machine from years ago. Make up your mind. If a Venezuelan has mining machine from years ago means he HAS money and he is not hungry.

And now you're saying they should sell their car and buy/mine bitcoin with the money they get from selling their car and then use bitcoin to buy food? Seriously? Lel.
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Why are you so angry. You didn't answer my questions on how food prices. Etc. You even didn't at lest find out using Google . Yes it's matter to me. I looking at possibility that our country might end up that so I can learn from it. Of course that's those not matter to u anyway
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Venezuelans are losing weight amid food shortages, skyrocketing prices

By Stefano Pozzebon and Patrick Gillespie May 3, 2017: 10:47 AM ET
Mariana Mejias can't afford to buy a bag of rice in Venezuela.
She lives in Mariche, an extremely poor neighborhood in the country's capital, Caracas, which suffers from severe food and medical shortages like the rest of the country.
If the government doesn't provide a subsidized monthly bag of food, Mejias would go hungry. Skyrocketing prices have made food at her local market prohibitive. The monthly food bag, worth 10,000 bolivares ($2.25), includes rice, milk, pasta, beans and a few other items.

A bag of rice at Mejias' local store goes for 8,000 bolivares -- out of reach for her monthly income of 219,000 bolivares or $49 on the unofficial but often used exchange rate calculated by dolartoday.com.
"Things are horrible here, I don't know how people are even surviving," says Mejias, a 62-year-old house cleaner who earns minimum wage plus a government pension.
Related: GM officially leaves Venezuela
Venezuela's socialist government, led by President Nicolas Maduro, raised the minimum wage 60% on Sunday to 200,021 bolivares ($45) a month, including food stamps.
But that won't buy much at the supermarket.
In March, a basket of basic grocery items -- including eggs, milk and fruit -- cost 772,614 bolivares, or close to four times the monthly minimum wage, according to the Venezuela-based Center of Social Analysis and Documentation, or CENDAS in the Spanish acronym.
Food shortages and soaring prices have led to troubling results. Last year, the average Venezuelan living in extreme poverty lost about 19 pounds due to the lack of food. Many of its citizens had to skip meals, according to a national poll.
Related: Venezuela raises minimum wage 60%

The food crisis is worsening as Venezuela dives deeper into chaos. On Monday, Maduro issued a decree that may allow his party to rewrite the country's constitution more to its liking. On Tuesday, Maduro suspended Venezeulans' right to carry firearms as weeks of anti-government protests stretch into the spring.
Amid the political chaos, food price hikes are staggering. A carton of 30 eggs cost 9,600 bolivares in March, up from 1,180 bolivares in March 2015, CENDAS reports.
"Food prices have gone sky high and the minimum wage is not enough for basic needs," says Eugenia Morin, 59, who describes herself as a middle-class housewife. She protested against Maduro on Tuesday.
While the 60% minimum wage hike may sound significant, inflation is expected to rise 720% this year and over 2,000% next year, according to the IMF. One bolivar is worth less than one cent.
Prices for basics are skyrocketing each month. Compared to February, prices in March for milk and cheese rose 33%, meat 19%, fish 17% and fruits 14%. Even mayonnaise cost 11% more.
Related: Venezuela only has $10 billion left

That's only the beginning. For toiletries the increases are even worse. Deodorant prices shot up 93% in March from February; detergent 62%; shaving razors 53%; toilet paper 27%.
Venezuelans either face food and toiletry shortages at supermarkets with empty shelves -- or skyrocketing prices for whatever items are available.
Medical shortages also illustrate the country's humanitarian crisis.
"If you need to have an operation, nowadays, you must bring your own medicines to the hospital," adds Morin, the housewife. "There are no supplies to attend the most basic emergencies."

Related: Cash-strapped Venezuela gave $500k to Trump's inauguration
Food shortages are the result of the government's long running policies. It focused on exporting oil and largely abandoned its abundant farmland. The government started importing the vast majority of food for its citizens.
But even when oil prices were high, that policy was barely sustainable -- food shortages starting popping up when oil was worth over $100 a barrel.
But with oil now hovering around $50 a barrel, Maduro's administration can't afford to import enough food and also pay down its debts to foreign creditors. For now, it's prioritized debt payments over shipping in food.
That end result: rising hunger and no visibility of where the next meal will come from.
One Venezuelan spent hours on Tuesday morning in Caracas waiting for a grocery store to open, hoping to buy food. The 60-year old man, who declined to give his name, wasn't hopeful he'd be able to buy food.
"Nobody knows what's going to arrive or what we could find inside. So we queue almost every day of the week, losing time and working hours to look for food," he said.
May 03
CARACAS

Focus on last paragraph please
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Copy and paste without even answering my question.

Typical sheep that can't think for yourself.
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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 03:50 PM)
Lel, you obviously lack comprehension.

Please go back to school.
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lol

where your long long point

bitcoin is godsent to venezula blackmarket...........wif hard cash ,they might not be so lucky,everhting restricted

wif bitcoin they can buy on the net

it just wasnt dawn on you that people could just donate that bitcoin to their citizen,who sympathy wif em
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QUOTE(Spectreoutreach @ Jun 6 2017, 03:52 PM)
Why are you  so angry.  You didn't  answer  my questions  on how food prices. Etc.  You even  didn't  at lest find out using Google . Yes it's matter to me.  I looking  at possibility that  our country might end up that so I can learn from it. Of course  that's those not matter to u anyway
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Ah so you're thinking Malaysia is going to be like Venezuela? Really?

Okay dude, if that's what you think then by all means go ahead and throw all your money in bitcoins.
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 03:53 PM)
lol

where your long long point

bitcoin is godsent to venezula blackmarket...........wif hard cash ,they might not be so lucky,everhting restricted

wif bitcoin they can buy on the net

it just wasnt dawn on you that people could just donate that bitcoin to their citizen,who sympathy wif em
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with USD, they can also buy from the net

and we can also send euro to them, they can even buy nike with euro

why would i send bitcoin, and then they convert the bitcoin to euro and buy nike ?
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QUOTE(win2000 @ Jun 6 2017, 03:37 PM)
how much for a mining rig that can mine 1 bitcoin for 2 month actually?
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For BT, GC just dont cut it.

you need an asic antminer s9 x 2 , im not really sure whats the probrability now, last it was 0.3 btc per month? cost usd2k per asic miner maybe mroe, needs to buy a separate power supply with at least 1600w and you have to factor in the electricity cost, need some sort of cooling and ventilation in the room that your mining and also its very very loud.
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 03:53 PM)
lol

where your long long point

bitcoin is godsent to venezula blackmarket...........wif hard cash ,they might not be so lucky,everhting restricted

wif bitcoin they can buy on the net

it just wasnt dawn on you that people could just donate that bitcoin to their citizen,who sympathy wif em
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I've said all my points but sadly you can't comprehend them so no point arguing with you anymore and man, what cancerous English.

Still, what happens in Venezuela is not going to make you any richer here, lel.
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QUOTE(Subang Nuclear Reactor @ Jun 6 2017, 03:56 PM)
with USD, they can also buy from the net

and we can also send euro to them, they can even buy nike with euro

why would i send bitcoin, and then they convert the bitcoin to euro and buy nike ?
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how the fuck u gonna send usd there???

even tourist got robbed by their citizen
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QUOTE(Subang Nuclear Reactor @ Jun 6 2017, 03:56 PM)
with USD, they can also buy from the net

and we can also send euro to them, they can even buy nike with euro

why would i send bitcoin, and then they convert the bitcoin to euro and buy nike ?
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Don't bother. In his mind, there's only one cold hard cash currency and that is Venezuelan bolivar.

It's obvious he's a bitcoin die hard fan.
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how the fuck u gonna send usd there???

even tourist got robbed by their citizen
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dude can just create and paypal and i send to him

dude can just create an alipay or wechat account and i send to him

if he has internet to do transaction in bitcoin, he has internet to do transaction in any currency
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Jun 6 2017, 04:03 PM
This post has been deleted by max_cavalera because: pls respect other forumer when arguing. no need name calling

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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 03:57 PM)
I've said all my points but sadly you can't comprehend them so no point arguing with you anymore and man, what cancerous English.


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lol,this is k,mangrish expected

QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 03:57 PM)
I've said all my points but sadly you can't comprehend them so no point arguing with you anymore and man, what cancerous English.

Still, what happens in Venezuela is not going to make you any richer here, lel.
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but now u know there is a point rite,alteast one,wif this crypto,lol

QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 03:43 PM)


And now you're saying they should sell their car and buy/mine bitcoin with the money they get from selling their car and then use bitcoin to buy food? Seriously? Lel.
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well,if they blow their all their car on foods,they could survived for weeks

but if they obtain a "money printer",they could survived for months,lel
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 04:02 PM)
lol,this is k,mangrish expected
but now u know there is a point rite,alteast one,wif this crypto,lol
well,if they blow their all their car on foods,they could survived for weeks

but if they obtain a "money printer",they could survived for months,lel
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I honestly can't understand a thing you're trying to say there.

Seriously dude. English lessons or just use Malay if your Malay is better.
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I honestly can't understand a thing you're trying to say there.

Seriously dude. English lessons or just use Malay if your Malay is better.
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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 04:01 PM)
Yo, dumbass - any place that accepts bitcoin will have the technology to accept USD/EUR/any godforsaken currency in this world electronically too. Therefore the person will not be robbed. Are you really that dumb? Geez.
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maduro is controlling banks rite now

http://in.reuters.com/article/venezuela-ce...k-idINKBN155056

even bitcoin he want to control it too, but it decentralized


https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2017/...n/#702f8d7b19b2

"many Venezuelans are turning to Bitcoin as an alternative. Humanitarians can donate Bitcoin to those in need, who can then use Bitcoin to buy Amazon gift cards, then purchase goods through the online retailer.

One of the biggest strengths to Bitcoin, and one often ignored in developed nations such as the United States, is that you don’t need to have a physical bank account to send and receive Bitcoin. All you need is an Internet connection, which many Venezuelans have in the form of mobile phones.

This lowers the bar for Venezuelans seeking relief, allowing them to receive Bitcoin through their phone and use that money for desperately needed goods. Some companies in Venezuela are even exclusively accepting payment in Bitcoin


Another major positive to Bitcoin for a country in disarray is that its government can’t control the value of it. "

https://news.vice.com/article/unable-to-get...urn-to-bitcoins

Currency controls imposed by the late Hugo Chavez in 2003 and maintained under his successor Nicolas Maduro make it difficult for Venezuelans to exchange bolivares for US dollars and other foreign currencies.

Since then, the only legal method for Venezuelans to get US dollars is through a government agency

To secure those imports, people often need dollars — which are held by the government. If you can persuade the government that you're importing necessities like food or medicine, the exchange rate is 6.3 bolivares to $1, the Venezuelan business professor said. For less necessary goods, the government will exchange 11 bolivares per $1 in an auction-type process, but that doesn't cover all goods.

Because the government runs these exchanges, it reserves the right to reject any requests for changing money as it sees fit.
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 05:18 PM)
maduro is controlling banks rite now

http://in.reuters.com/article/venezuela-ce...k-idINKBN155056

even bitcoin he want to control it too, but it decentralized
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2017/...n/#702f8d7b19b2

"many Venezuelans are turning to Bitcoin as an alternative. Humanitarians can donate Bitcoin to those in need, who can then use Bitcoin to buy Amazon gift cards, then purchase goods through the online retailer.

One of the biggest strengths to Bitcoin, and one often ignored in developed nations such as the United States, is that you don’t need to have a physical bank account to send and receive Bitcoin. All you need is an Internet connection, which many Venezuelans have in the form of mobile phones.

This lowers the bar for Venezuelans seeking relief, allowing them to receive Bitcoin through their phone and use that money for desperately needed goods. Some companies in Venezuela are even exclusively accepting payment in Bitcoin
Another major positive to Bitcoin for a country in disarray is that its government can’t control the value of it. "

https://news.vice.com/article/unable-to-get...urn-to-bitcoins

Currency controls imposed by the late Hugo Chavez in 2003 and maintained under his successor Nicolas Maduro make it difficult for Venezuelans to exchange bolivares for US dollars and other foreign currencies.

Since then, the only legal method for Venezuelans to get US dollars is through a government agency

To secure those imports, people often need dollars — which are held by the government. If you can persuade the government that you're importing necessities like food or medicine, the exchange rate is 6.3 bolivares to $1, the Venezuelan business professor said. For less necessary goods, the government will exchange 11 bolivares per $1 in an auction-type process, but that doesn't cover all goods.

Because the government runs these exchanges, it reserves the right to reject any requests for changing money as it sees fit.
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fuuu the last article really ganas yo...

gomen lockdown ur currency tak bagi capital flight....in the end economy implode and crumble within.....rakyat suffer
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 04:20 PM)
fuuu the last article really ganas yo...

gomen lockdown ur currency tak bagi capital flight....in the end economy implode and crumble within.....rakyat suffer
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in reddit

all they say

the best way to help venezula is,get out em from that country

its literally abandon titanic
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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jun 6 2017, 04:19 PM)
dont fall to the system ..

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Oi fellow millionaire

Help ayam here to get rich

how leh?

LUNO need to wait verification

Me planning go genesis mining

start with ETH or BTC first???
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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jun 6 2017, 04:19 PM)
dont fall to the system ..

later collapse

all go 14th floor
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I'm still a millionaire even if it all goes to zero.

We call it diversification.


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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 04:18 PM)
maduro is controlling banks rite now

http://in.reuters.com/article/venezuela-ce...k-idINKBN155056

even bitcoin he want to control it too, but it decentralized
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2017/...n/#702f8d7b19b2

"many Venezuelans are turning to Bitcoin as an alternative. Humanitarians can donate Bitcoin to those in need, who can then use Bitcoin to buy Amazon gift cards, then purchase goods through the online retailer.

One of the biggest strengths to Bitcoin, and one often ignored in developed nations such as the United States, is that you don’t need to have a physical bank account to send and receive Bitcoin. All you need is an Internet connection, which many Venezuelans have in the form of mobile phones.

This lowers the bar for Venezuelans seeking relief, allowing them to receive Bitcoin through their phone and use that money for desperately needed goods. Some companies in Venezuela are even exclusively accepting payment in Bitcoin
Another major positive to Bitcoin for a country in disarray is that its government can’t control the value of it. "

https://news.vice.com/article/unable-to-get...urn-to-bitcoins

Currency controls imposed by the late Hugo Chavez in 2003 and maintained under his successor Nicolas Maduro make it difficult for Venezuelans to exchange bolivares for US dollars and other foreign currencies.

Since then, the only legal method for Venezuelans to get US dollars is through a government agency

To secure those imports, people often need dollars — which are held by the government. If you can persuade the government that you're importing necessities like food or medicine, the exchange rate is 6.3 bolivares to $1, the Venezuelan business professor said. For less necessary goods, the government will exchange 11 bolivares per $1 in an auction-type process, but that doesn't cover all goods.

Because the government runs these exchanges, it reserves the right to reject any requests for changing money as it sees fit.
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Try to read the article and apply some common sense, will you?

The article says the government controls the exchange rate between bolivar and USD - it doesn't say that the government controls the flow of USD in/out of Venezuela, and honestly there is no way for a government to control the flow of currency - normal currencies are also easily obtained in Venezuela as long as you do it electronically - again, if a place/person has a way to receive bitcoin and shops accepts bitcoins, the same person/shop will also accept USD or other currency electronically.
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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 6 2017, 04:44 PM)
place/person has a way to receive bitcoin and shops accepts bitcoins, the same person/shop will also accept USD or other currency electronically.
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very well

ayam wrong sad.gif sorry
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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jun 6 2017, 04:19 PM)
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If you all in, then collapse that is called greed lo. Need to cash out to realize your gains.
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 04:43 PM)
I'm still a millionaire even if it all goes to zero.

We call it diversification.
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let me know which good forum thread to go apart from bitcoin

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ayam wants be millionaire too like u
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investment 101 bro, only invest on what youre willing to lose.

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I'm still a millionaire even if it all goes to zero.

We call it diversification.
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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 6 2017, 04:48 PM)
If you all in, then collapse that is called greed lo. Need to cash out to realize your gains.
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jun 6 2017, 04:50 PM)
let me know which good forum thread to go apart from bitcoin

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ayam wants be millionaire too like u
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I lepak here on a daily if not hourly basis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader

Don't just pour money into this blindly, research and learn at your own pace. Stay up to date with the ongoing events.

Listen to these crypto podcasts when you commute daily to school/work

- Unchained
- The Bitcoin Podcast
- Epicenter
- Ether Review
- State Change
- The Crypto Show
- Let's Talk Bitcoin

Allow me to reiterate, ETH at $257 now is still cheap. Believe it or not.
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 05:02 PM)
I lepak here on a daily if not hourly basis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader

Don't just pour money into this blindly, research and learn at your own pace. Stay up to date with the ongoing events.

Listen to these crypto podcasts when you commute daily to school/work

- Unchained
- The Bitcoin Podcast
- Epicenter
- Ether Review
- State Change
- The Crypto Show
- Let's Talk Bitcoin

Allow me to reiterate, ETH at $257 now is still cheap. Believe it or not.
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so... from your POV, ETH is a great buy

I will just follow the experts since I am a late bloomer here in this industry

miss out on the bull run

hope I dun miss further more
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jun 6 2017, 05:08 PM)
so... from your POV, ETH is a great buy

I will just follow the experts since I am a late bloomer here in this industry

miss out on the bull run

hope I dun miss further more
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You miss out on our flash sale just over a week ago.

We went as low as $110! What a bargain

Don't worry, plenty of such sale will occur as we ascend towards the moon.

Buy half now, standby half for future sale.

Hodl(never sell) at least a year from now
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 05:02 PM)
I lepak here on a daily if not hourly basis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader

Don't just pour money into this blindly, research and learn at your own pace. Stay up to date with the ongoing events.

Listen to these crypto podcasts when you commute daily to school/work

- Unchained
- The Bitcoin Podcast
- Epicenter
- Ether Review
- State Change
- The Crypto Show
- Let's Talk Bitcoin

Allow me to reiterate, ETH at $257 now is still cheap. Believe it or not.
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could u explain to me why they wanna keep on adding the coins without mining and then to facilitate transaction for all these banks and corporation they need stable value. stability is usually very dead and non volatile type.
while this thing has been at least volatile for 10% daily I think.

so contradictory here
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jun 6 2017, 05:11 PM)
could u explain to me why they wanna keep on adding the coins without mining and then to facilitate transaction for all these banks and corporation they need stable value. stability is usually very dead and non volatile type.
while this thing has been at least volatile for 10% daily I think.

so contradictory here
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Sorry what are you referring to exactly?

Ethereum tokens?
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Oi fellow millionaire

Help ayam here to get rich

how leh?

LUNO need to wait verification

Me planning go genesis mining

start with ETH or BTC first???
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 05:12 PM)
Sorry what are you referring to exactly?

Ethereum tokens?
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I dunno what u call them. token or what
I studied everything from gold bars, gold price, paper gold pricing and a lot of things.

physical gold is fixed supply, there is only that much on earth.
gold price we see there includes futures contract or paper gold. so they can manipulate as much as they want because u do not need physical to sell.

bitcoin has a fixed supply. 21mil of them, that's why the price goes up
ETH however is not, adding around 17% supply yearly that sort of thing ?

corporations support this ETH for payments and such, due to low fees.
thing is I also read that it's designed for stability. means not supposed to be volatile.

if it swings 10% daily then defeats the purpose of stability. so by right expanding the token amount helps to buffer the additional demand or make it stable.
10% daily swing is not stable at all.

and for corporations all they gotta do is just pinch out 10% of the cash holding to stack in ETH and I guarantee it will be a few folds what we see here.

so the 'stability' is a con job
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 05:11 PM)
You miss out on our flash sale just over a week ago.

We went as low as $110! What a bargain

Don't worry, plenty of such sale will occur as we ascend towards the moon.

Buy half now, standby half for future sale.

Hodl(never sell) at least a year from now
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DAFUGGGGGG!!!
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both get a good wallet 1st
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what good wallet u recommend?

WooTz here mention some such as Ledger Nano S, Trezor and Keepkey wallets

what u recommend?
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 05:02 PM)
I lepak here on a daily if not hourly basis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader

Don't just pour money into this blindly, research and learn at your own pace. Stay up to date with the ongoing events.

Listen to these crypto podcasts when you commute daily to school/work

- Unchained
- The Bitcoin Podcast
- Epicenter
- Ether Review
- State Change
- The Crypto Show
- Let's Talk Bitcoin

Allow me to reiterate, ETH at $257 now is still cheap. Believe it or not.
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hi wootz, what is your current projection for ethereum? what do you think of other cryptocurriences?
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thread almost derailed to Venezuelan crisis
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QUOTE(Songlap @ Jun 6 2017, 06:28 PM)
thread almost derailed to Venezuelan crisis
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actually it was a good case study.

How a nation collapse economically and among the best method they can hedge against hyperinflation...

i better not comment a lot later got ppl sakit buntut sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jun 6 2017, 05:27 PM)
what good wallet u recommend?

WooTz here mention some such as Ledger Nano S, Trezor and Keepkey wallets

what u recommend?
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rclxms.gif that already good choice. i thou u refer to web or app based wallet . you call
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jun 6 2017, 05:22 PM)
I dunno what u call them. token or what
I studied everything from gold bars, gold price, paper gold pricing and a lot of things.

physical gold is fixed supply, there is only that much on earth.
gold price we see there includes futures contract or paper gold. so they can manipulate as much as they want because u do not need physical to sell.

bitcoin has a fixed supply. 21mil of them, that's why the price goes up
ETH however is not, adding around 17% supply yearly that sort of thing ?

corporations support this ETH for payments and such, due to low fees.
thing is I also read that it's designed for stability. means not supposed to be volatile.

if it swings 10% daily then defeats the purpose of stability. so by right expanding the token amount helps to buffer the additional demand or make it stable.
10% daily swing is not stable at all.

and for corporations all they gotta do is just pinch out 10% of the cash holding to stack in ETH and I guarantee it will be a few folds what we see here.

so the 'stability' is a con job
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Yes, Ethereum is uncapped for life, currently at 13.63% inflation and dropping exponentially due to the mining difficulty bomb, eventually making way for 2% or lower annual issuance with Proof of Stake.

Now you factor in those ETH that gets locked up in ENS, 10% of all supply in PoS, ICO token sales and Prism and MakerDAI stablecoin utilizing ETH as collateral for their portfolio.

Then machine-to-machine wallets begin transacting autonomously.

There we shall find our stability, like the USD today

This post has been edited by WooTz: Jun 6 2017, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(Spectreoutreach @ Jun 6 2017, 05:39 PM)
rclxms.gif that already good choice. i thou u refer to web or app based wallet . you call
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Huh? Those aren't web or app base?

Gotta look them up

Any web or app base wallet to recommend?
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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Jun 6 2017, 04:19 PM)
dont fall to the system ..

later collapse

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It wont. Its being controlled by black market so muc due to non-existant control that its heaven for criminals.
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 05:40 PM)
Yes, Ethereum is uncapped for life, currently at 13.63% inflation and dropping exponentially due to the mining difficulty bomb, eventually making way for 2% or lower annual issuance with Proof of Stake.

Now you factor in those ETH that gets locked up in ENS, 10% of all supply in PoS, ICO token sales and Prism and MakerDAI stablecoin utilizing ETH as collateral for their portfolio.

Then machine-to-machine wallets begin transacting autonomously.

There we shall find our stability, like the USD today
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there is no stability when u can stack them. just like hoarding.
I gotta feeling that if the price itself is unstable it will ultimately fork itself for corporations to use it. currency movement is around controlled 2% daily. this is like 15% daily

btw USD is stable because of constant demand and mechanism of central bank that buy and sell treasury to balance demand and selling.
stability is created via balancing buying and selling.

that's why I said there is no price stability.

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jun 6 2017, 05:49 PM)
there is no stability when u can stack them. just like hoarding.
I gotta feeling that if the price itself is unstable it will ultimately fork itself for corporations to use it. currency movement is around controlled 2% daily. this is like 15% daily

btw USD is stable because of constant demand and mechanism of central bank that buy and sell treasury to balance demand and selling.
stability is created via balancing buying and selling.

that's why I said there is no price stability.
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Have a read, they're working on it

https://blog.makerdao.com/2017/06/05/introducing-sai/
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jun 6 2017, 05:41 PM)
Huh? Those aren't web or app base?

Gotta look them up

Any web or app base wallet to recommend?
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Xapo because of got debit card features and https://in.xapo.com/fees/ it at lest tell u in advance how much they charged u to send out to external address but beware if receive less than BTC 0.00117612 , got fee involved . (1 is standard and 2 is expensive for speedy transaction)
I like xapo walllet at lest u know how much they charged. The rest charge u when u send up to to other wallet (non fixed ) and saddle with very expensive fees

I not sure if u use bitcoin faucet . just make sure they got kawtim with Xapo as main wallet receiver . Those wallet mention earlier are physical wallet and expensive plus more secure .PS don't lose the 12 or 24 letter security code

PS : use Coinomi or Jaxx wallet to store ALT coin
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QUOTE(Spectreoutreach @ Jun 6 2017, 05:57 PM)
Xapo because of got debit card features and https://in.xapo.com/fees/  it at lest tell u in advance how much they charged u to send out to external address but beware if receive less than  BTC 0.00117612 , got fee involved . (1 is standard and 2 is expensive for speedy transaction)
I like xapo walllet at lest u know how much they charged. The rest charge u when u send up to to other wallet (non fixed ) and saddle with very expensive fees

I not sure if  u use bitcoin faucet . just make sure they got kawtim with Xapo as main wallet receiver .  Those wallet mention earlier are physical wallet and expensive plus more secure  .PS don't lose the 12 or 24 letter security code 

PS : use Coinomi or Jaxx wallet to store ALT coin
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So Xapo for BTC

Xapo is app n web base

Coinomi n jaxx wallet cannot store BTC or ETH? Web base eh?

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So Xapo for BTC

Xapo is app n web base

Coinomi n jaxx wallet cannot store BTC or ETH? Web base eh?
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it can store both.its multiwallet altough i prefer coinomi . more choice
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it can store both.its multiwallet altough i prefer coinomi . more choice
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Nice
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these virtual currency unregulated by govt does not contribute to GDP hence no real value

it was a speculation now it is a cult
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QUOTE(PortgasDerekAce @ Jun 6 2017, 06:25 PM)
these virtual currency unregulated by govt does not contribute to GDP  hence no real value

it was a speculation now it is a cult
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even feedin ppl stomach no value eh
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these virtual currency unregulated by govt does not contribute to GDP  hence no real value

it was a speculation now it is a cult
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The inventor of Ethereum just met with the Russian president last Friday.

If it's all speculation and no real value, why would the most powerful person on the planet spoke with him?

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54677

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The inventor of Ethereum just met with the Russian president last Friday.

If it's all speculation and no real value, why would the most powerful person on the planet spoke with him?
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Wow you think the Russian president is the most powerful person on the planet.. how many socialists are there here actually? smile.gif

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Wow you think the Russian president is the most powerful person on the planet.. how many socialists are there here actually? smile.gif
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Dunno, the fake news called him so.

Who do you think is number one?
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Btc still have few millions left ready to be mine

But mining at this time is the real joke

Harder than ever

Will cost you more

And the profits is peanut
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Dunno, the fake news called him so.

Who do you think is number one?
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No need to boost so good of him whistling.gif whistling.gif
also ethereum will be worth less when banker make their own blockchain
it is not future proof by all sense
welcome to the millionaire party in /k rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(acer7254 @ Jun 6 2017, 06:59 PM)
Btc still have few millions left ready to be mine

But mining at this time is the real joke

Harder than ever

Will cost you more

And the profits is peanut
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mining xmr with cpu is still good thumbup.gif
gpu barely strong enough to mine xmr too.
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mining xmr with cpu is still good thumbup.gif
gpu barely strong enough to mine xmr too.
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how much u make liao


and ur late to the trolin oart
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 07:12 PM)
how much u make liao
and ur late to the trolin oart
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ayam don't care about making any moneh
ayam only want to join the hype whistling.gif whistling.gif
and see the technology progress
look like there is a lot of changes since the last decade thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(cocbum4 @ Jun 6 2017, 07:06 PM)
mining xmr with cpu is still good thumbup.gif
gpu barely strong enough to mine xmr too.
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Average Total Hash Rate: (24h) 2.61 KH/s (12h) 2.20 KH/s (1h) 2.98 KH/s (10m) 3.00 KH/s rclxms.gif

Hashrate drop because I moved all mining to sumokoin awhile just now.
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Average Total Hash Rate: (24h) 2.61 KH/s (12h) 2.20 KH/s (1h) 2.98 KH/s (10m) 3.00 KH/s  rclxms.gif

Hashrate drop because I moved all mining to sumokoin awhile just now.
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http://monerobechmarks.byethost5.com

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eth will not  be like btc ..

eth price will remain the same imo .
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novemebr 2017,eth price how much?
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Son. In cryptocurrency theory of relativity apply. 1 year in crypto world is like 4 years in stock market....😅

Actually this is how i feel when i migrate from bursa to crypto
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Can play like forex?
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Is mining the only way to procure bitcoins ?
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Is mining the only way to procure bitcoins ?
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Can i join the party now or better wait for other one?
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My padawan 🤗

Join with lil money u can afford to lose...

High risk high gain....

Later who onows maybe u can write ur own legacy like jesse livermore and dan zanger did
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 06:42 PM)
The inventor of Ethereum just met with the Russian president last Friday.

If it's all speculation and no real value, why would the most powerful person on the planet spoke with him?

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54677
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Er...no picture no statements. Nothing but from a website that i jot sure of its authenticity also
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no, admirers can give you bitcoins too.  biggrin.gif
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My padawan 🤗

Join with lil money u can afford to lose...

High risk high gain....

Later who onows maybe u can write ur own legacy like jesse livermore and dan zanger did
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lol thanks bro. But sure i won't be writing a book about my legacy la.
Unless i can get into the circle of master sifu like yourself when you managed to buy 1 Bitcoin at a few Malaysian Ringgit.
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I have learned a very valuable lesson during the rise of mlm.

This thread reminds me a lot of that mlm company thread in /k that reach 20 pages very fast with people sharing stories how they more then double their investments.

But as we found out recently once the collapse that they are actually early investors brainwashing new investors so they can continue earning knowing full well new investors won't even recover their modal.

I could be wrong. But 1 thing I learn is nobody wants to see or help other people get rich. Why was there no 20 pages thread promoting bitcoin in 2010??? Only now when the price is so high suddenly can see many promoting it...
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😑😒
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Open a bitcoin wallet and post it here.

Some doormat guy will donate 0.1 or 0.001 btc to you and u willforget about it.

4 years later u suddenly remember and check ur wallet.

Ur already a milionaire biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(scottyvstheworld @ Jun 6 2017, 07:52 PM)
I have learned a very valuable lesson during the rise of mlm.

This thread reminds me a lot of that mlm company thread in /k that reach 20 pages very fast with people sharing stories how they more then double their investments.

But as we found out recently once the collapse that they are actually early investors brainwashing new investors so they can continue earning knowing full well new investors won't even recover their modal.

I could be wrong. But 1 thing I learn is nobody wants to see or help other people get rich. Why was there no 20 pages thread promoting bitcoin in 2010??? Only now when the price is so high suddenly can see many promoting it...
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bitcoin could fall flat to 1 myr tomorow

its not imposibel
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u could buy it wif myr/usd etc
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biggrin.gif joking nia..

anyway, can buy bitcoins too. just need to find an exchange/btc atm
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QUOTE(scottyvstheworld @ Jun 6 2017, 07:52 PM)
. Why was there no 20 pages thread promoting bitcoin in 2010??? Only now when the price is so high suddenly can see many promoting it...
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got le.. in the past, when bitcoin hit usd1k 2-3years ago.. ok la..ppl promote promote.. then manage to get some also by buying alittle bit and also mining.
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Er...no picture no statements. Nothing but from a website that i jot sure of its authenticity also
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QUOTE(scottyvstheworld @ Jun 6 2017, 07:52 PM)
I have learned a very valuable lesson during the rise of mlm.

This thread reminds me a lot of that mlm company thread in /k that reach 20 pages very fast with people sharing stories how they more then double their investments.

But as we found out recently once the collapse that they are actually early investors brainwashing new investors so they can continue earning knowing full well new investors won't even recover their modal.

I could be wrong. But 1 thing I learn is nobody wants to see or help other people get rich. Why was there no 20 pages thread promoting bitcoin in 2010??? Only now when the price is so high suddenly can see many promoting it...
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The lessons you learned from encounters with mlm are relevant to this current bull run many different coin supporters will trying to psycho newbies into buy more of their coin,
so they can dump their holdings at higher prices. Different space but the strategy still the same, passing the buck to the next water fish.

The hot thing now is everyone wants to jump into ICO (similar to stock IPO), so far it is lucrative as the ROI can be 5x to 1000x gain when the new coin gets listed on the exchange.
High risk but high gain due to the unregulated nature of the market, everyone should do their own research and don't believe everything so easily.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 03:59 PM)
very obvious isnt it?  biggrin.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(scottyvstheworld @ Jun 6 2017, 07:52 PM)
I have learned a very valuable lesson during the rise of mlm.

This thread reminds me a lot of that mlm company thread in /k that reach 20 pages very fast with people sharing stories how they more then double their investments.

But as we found out recently once the collapse that they are actually early investors brainwashing new investors so they can continue earning knowing full well new investors won't (may not) even recover their modal.

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You sir, have a valid point.



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Its always like this

BTC up, ETH up too.


BTC drop, ETH drop too.

Next few hours we will see the first time BTC reach $3000.

Just after few weeks BTC reach $2000 for the first time. rclxms.gif bruce.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


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Go for stratis!!!!
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Wow!!!

Another coin!

Guys otai sifu!

What u guys think? At usd10 now
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 07:53 PM)
Open a bitcoin wallet and post it here.

Some doormat guy will donate 0.1 or 0.001 btc to you and u willforget about it.

4 years later u suddenly remember and check ur wallet.

Ur already a milionaire biggrin.gif
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Even if you have a lot of bitcoin, is there a way to cash out in Malaysia?

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 6 2017, 06:42 PM)
The inventor of Ethereum just met with the Russian president last Friday.

If it's all speculation and no real value, why would the most powerful person on the planet spoke with him?

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54677
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all money game also tell people they have datuk/sultan back up lah. u insult people's intelligence all day long like this ar? or u r dumb yourself?

now u look again. all money game collapse then the money game players shift to virtual currency game lo
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QUOTE(PortgasDerekAce @ Jun 7 2017, 04:26 AM)
all money game also tell people they have datuk/sultan back up lah. u insult people's intelligence all day long like this ar? or u r dumb yourself?

now u look again. all money game collapse then the money game players shift to virtual currency game lo
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Going to quote this one for near future 😂
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Comparing MLM to crypto. Kek.

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Going to quote this one for near future 😂
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Btw, invest on Stratis.

You heard it here first from yours truly.

You can thank me later.
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Going to quote this one for near future 😂
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 7 2017, 06:45 AM)
Going to quote this one for near future 😂
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Hahhah

Be sure to open a thread in the future and don't forget to call him into the thread.

This is so funny, it is like a guy who knows nothing about how a car works explaining to an automotive engineer.
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Btw, invest on Stratis.

You heard it here first from yours truly.

You can thank me later.
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i've come to understand one thing.

if 4chan is shilling it, you'll see result in 5 years.

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Which site do you use for bitcoin wallet? I registered with coinbase but it didn't support malaysia.
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what platform can buy stratis? coinhako?
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I just swap my bitcoin to stratis
u can take a look on changelly

QUOTE(xkaix @ Jun 7 2017, 07:48 AM)
Which site do you use for bitcoin wallet? I registered with coinbase but it didn't support malaysia.
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use blockchain.info

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Which site do you use for bitcoin wallet? I registered with coinbase but it didn't support malaysia.
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malaysia widely supported by Luno, register here:
https://www.luno.com/invite/2HFPP
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QUOTE($kidzl @ Jun 7 2017, 06:52 AM)
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You heard it here first from yours truly.

You can thank me later.
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Where u buy ur stratis?

Coinhako? I can't see any selling stratis!
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 6 2017, 11:13 AM)
Kinda ridiculous for a crash just a week ago to recover.

Btc price have reach new high at 2840usd currently....

Bincangkan
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max already millionaire ? brows.gif
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QUOTE(blueblueoutofblue @ Aug 31 2017, 06:32 PM)
max already millionaire ?  brows.gif
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Old thread bro

Later open new thread once it hit rm20-25k per btc
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 31 2017, 05:33 PM)
Old thread bro

Later open new thread once it hit rm20-25k per btc
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i tot it hit when it was 4700?


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