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post Jan 8 2020, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 8 2020, 11:58 AM)
Happy New Year guys.

Got myself a new yrs cute Vacuum cleaner.  biggrin.gif

It is a Worx WX030.9. Not much infor in the market as it still new I guess.

Small and handy. Easy vacuum my small grind work, DIY and car. Run on standard Worx powertools battery. 

Have 2 mode. Low and high with nosie level 75db and 81db.

It have a Dyson style of get dust out from the bin. Press the button and the bottom cover flung open.

Cost RM260 with shipping. Excluded battery and charger. So far only avaiable at Taobao.

Weight 1.4kg without the battery.

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That is how small the size. The ON/OFF switch at the side handle and bin push button on the surface. the bin at the bottom with MAX sign.
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Only 2 accessories come together. It can be keep in the vacuum unit. ( 2 hole). The hose have a magnet that when you keep it back in the handle, it will snap.
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The accessories have an extension hose that is rubberise material. Good for narrow and bend space. Also won't scratch surface. Best for car vacuum.
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Bin with filter. The filter can be taken out for clean.
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Standard Worx battery. Runtime less than 15min for high mode. Air flow out from the right side.
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is it good suction as compare to bosch gas vacuum cleaner?
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post Jan 8 2020, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 8 2020, 01:39 PM)
Bosch gas vacuum spec 6kpa

This worx is 10kpa
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no shit? share real video review please.
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post Jan 8 2020, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 8 2020, 01:55 PM)
I get it from the spec website compare la.

I don't have the Bosch gas vacuum. Or gauge to check.

Who have? Come we show down compare.  bruce.gif

If want me compare with this  brows.gif  than worx can bungkus lor.  biggrin.gif

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too powerful. The best compare with this bosch

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post Jan 8 2020, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 8 2020, 02:10 PM)
Is this the Bosch gas vacuum? Not the hanheld wan?

Big wan sure powerfull la.

Here is more detail about the Worx vacuum


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that handheld you have in mind; no no. not that shit.
yea i saw; but sadly no wet suction; so the bosch generally beat this even with stronk suction.

worx still need to get market credibility.

If you really into new tool; try Festool.

this one is trades level liking.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 9 2020, 10:05 AM)
Worx did not start out of thin air. Maybe the name is not well established but if the company gives product warranty between 1~3 years, then it has confidence. Probably not very long history but not too young also. Right now I think the problem is the cordless product line. China batteries can be anywhere from 1 to 10. Depends on how much the target cost  biggrin.gif

No, I don't own any Worx power tool but Worx Pegasus folding table is real deal for me  wink.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 9 2020, 10:23 AM)
Some of the Worx powertools are very famous. Ex. Hydroshot. Easy and versatile to use than my another Kracher waterjet.

I have Worx hydroshot, Pagasus and this vacuum cleaner.

For drill and driver, it is Makita.

For battery, it is all about the price vs capacity. Battery can take away almost 1/2 of the powertools cost. Battery mostly made in China. But not the cell for brand powertools. and very much subject to price vs capacity.

And it is difficult choice to get a powertools also if your collection is base on only 1 brand. Battery is the culprit.
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I know worx dont start out of thin air but what i`m saying is;

"You got giants like Makita; Milwaukee; Bosch, Stanley+(Dewalt), Hilti(Metabo), Hikoki(Previous Hitachi) so forth.. "

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thus come to question like.

what is best suit for Malaysia Power Tools Market & Industry & entry price.

I have no issue with Worx; or SKIL or Greentech, Ryobi etc etc and few others as much these days are much manufactured in China; unlike OLD Milwaukee or Makita(Japan)

thus; you want to concern is the ROI on this tools;

sure you want to buy at reasonable price and last long and have the one size fits all kind idea.

Like Makita range; or Milwaukee. for trades profs. but for home DIY- Bosch could do the work.


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Tools like OPT.

Ego Outdoor Powertool seem to be winning; but cant get it in Malaysia. huhu.

else it could just replace the entire noisy spectrum.

and Hilti - ideal tools for concrete work; wow; the price is crazy!

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 9 2020, 12:59 PM)
Trade name sometimes mark the price high, not necessarily the best. I'd go for review done by person who are in construction business.

The tool you choose in Malaysia is the one you can easily get it serviced or get spare parts. However. many contractors are just using unknown China brands. They may not last as long but the tools probably at cross point where it is cheaper to just buy a replacement than to repair  and wait for spare parts. This is the reality once the cost of labor increase with cost of livings.  smile.gif

This is also another reasons why many big names came out with amateur, semi-pro, and pro series; and also produce their tools with sub-contractors in China. Thanks to Trump, now many are moving to Malaysia as well  laugh.gif

P.S. At least Worx is still on the chart ... Positec  wink.gif
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1. I`m not asking the best; in-fact one should look at durability worth.
2. What is there to service unless it is really shit tool? rclxub.gif unless there is intention to reverse engineering like how generally Malaysia disrespect all other entity with third party stuffs instead paying the right stuffs.

Btw; incase you didnt know; EGO OTP is from China; so far no competitor. Just look up the review.

Malaysia doesn't gain much from this; same story as solar panels industry.








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QUOTE(odour_stop @ Jan 11 2020, 11:40 PM)
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Those giants, nowadays you are likely to pay for the brand tag rather than their tools credibility.

Unless you're saying for their trademark power tool like Hitachi for their nailer, Bosch for their SDS, Hilti for their breaker, etc.
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and when you pay for brand tag and budget; you want it last. you dont want to have something like proton.
each have their strength.


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post Jan 14 2020, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(odour_stop @ Jan 13 2020, 05:30 PM)
How long warranty brand here? I know Dewalt have like 3 years limited warranty. The most reliable is Hilti, the send people to pickup your broken tools within 2 years.

The so called renown brands, to break 1 to 2 times within 6-12 months is normal, so does cheaper tool, nothing special.

In US for example, they have the latest model, offer 2-3 times cheaper price than here and longer warranty period.
Ridgid, Hikoki is lifetime warranty. 5 years Milwaukee warranty, etc. If you follow Milwaukee fb group page. They tend to do 1 to 1 replacement for broken tools.
Thats reliability.
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That why go for Milwaukeee! biggrin.gif

If just Hilti go retail and people buy.

Best for our building construction type. - concrete.


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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2020, 04:04 PM)
sifu, see i got what looks like 3 types of drill bits. i got no idea what is for what....can explain? thank you  notworthy.gif
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masonry(concrete); timber and metal.

all different drill bits.


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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2020, 04:16 PM)
gold ones are metal right? ok thanks
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Dont your Drill bits have its set have its description?

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2020, 04:30 PM)
this one cheap set given free by B&D what also never write  blush.gif
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later you use; and the metal bit broken console.gif
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Hilti 2020 powertools really amazing this time around.

Concrete coring; concrete demolition and the cutter.

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why msia hilti doesn't want to open up their hilti to cater for more main stream market; like subscription base. etc.


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QUOTE(chamelion @ Feb 16 2020, 11:08 PM)
Btw Hilti dont like to sell to the small contractor or home user (even in US and EU).

Their target is big company who also sign up service contract with them...

but they tools are good stuff..
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The good about hilti is their A.S.S. They should separate their big corp portfolio and their domestic/small scale kind market; instead bundle all together. Hilti could be game changer;if they are smart enough on these segment. Instead wanking the same ways as others in the way; keep putting new things year by year.

You wont get A.S.S...with dewalt; makita; bosch; milwaukee...so forth.

And it also come down to the question about; feasibility of power tools ownership.

Whats the purpose having lot of power tools; but you only use it maybe 2/5 through out the ownership period. and if there is problem; end up back in bins? rclxub.gif

Hilti will be game changer if they able to create a rental base kind for people who have in-depth of power tools usage- like small cons or skilled users.


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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 17 2020, 12:58 PM)
when labor = sg/us then tools investment will come accordingly. I hire those general workers before they prefer cheap tools due to the reason it will overheat easily and sometimes breakdown during work. They will take that as an excuse to snake.

Recently I hire someone to core a 6" hole in a 400mm RC slab. Main con said they can do it without hiring professionals. During the commission day, they bought low-end tools which cost them 1.5k and fail to core the slab ended up wasting 1 full day of a workday. (1 Engineer 1 supervisor 2 GW) 8hours you can estimate the manpower wasted and downtime cost too. I overwrite the main-con and hired professional corer who used Hilti/Shibuya and they can core each hole through 16mm RB 400mm Slab about 30min per hole.

After the job that main-con was banned from the tendering list.
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that`s what i`m resonate about in msia. real efficiency. not some undercut to get project done.

if they did the right things; instead resorting to cheapskate method to yield end result..it wont be that damaging to the main-con.

how`s the cost after "getting the real pros" in? smile.gif

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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 17 2020, 10:27 PM)
Main con bare all the cost, well tbh professional charge reasonable price for the amount of job being done and most importantly they always ahead of schedule.
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for real? doh.gif that really burn them shocking.gif

i wont mind paying reasonable price too as long it get it done it right and on time and no issue.

thats the concept local construction dont seem to grasp.

everyone can make profit/revenue; if they do the right thing and SOP and deliverance on time.


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hopefully #milwaukeetool_my bring this in





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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 19 2020, 03:59 PM)
However of late (2019+) I noticed shop contractors starting to use cordless tools though.  devil.gif
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cordless all the way; easy life; do job done + charge.

worry less about having "electricity factor" and if those in electrician; if smart; have a toyota hiace or mini vans like such

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and add up retractable solar panels on roof while working on side. and that can help to charged up all the power tools. Free electricity.


QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 19 2020, 04:04 PM)
Contractors different story. Sometime they need to do renovation on new house where there is no electricity yet. Last time it was a problem. Need to bring portable generator  smile.gif
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yea; sucks right.

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 22 2020, 02:07 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif Just ordered solo unit GBH180Li at 399 and the battery + charger separate.
Funny that the parts total (split separately) is still much cheaper than those all-in-one combos.
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Just curious; is there any similar range with GBH 180-Li in milwaukee range? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 22 2020, 11:45 PM)
Flexibility and no need to worry working hot with live wire, can off the whole DB box.

Got. The 7/8" SDS (3 mode) 2605-22 would be the rough equivalent to the GBH 180-LI.
https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Powe.../Rotary-Hammers
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Yeah; with all the cordless going about 82V type; Makita join the 40V gang; etc etc.. Oh my; its going to be an explosion of powertools in the market.

Maybe time to put the msia market to cordless according to tier biggrin.gif

Msia market:

Tier 1: Hilti; Makita; Milwaukee, (top bunch) (Commercials+ Real builders/renovator)

Tier 2: Bosch; Dewalt; Hikoki

Tier 3: The rest not in the list.

Ok Great; Milwaukee have it. thank you~



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