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post Sep 5 2021, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(star0c3an @ Sep 5 2021, 11:43 AM)
Hi all, I planning to start home woodworking DIY and planning to buy tools, I come across two brand for circular saw and sander - Stanley or Makita

Stanley
https://shopee.com.my/product/336820079/407...82-1630813039.9

Makita
https://shopee.com.my/product/80183826/7716...82-1630813178.9

I see the Stanley saw is 1600w Vs Makita 1050w, is there much different? Which one would you recommend? I saw online seems like Stanley is mostly hated in US because of quality and after sales service

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Stanley is the lowest tier of SBD lineup (S < B&D < Dewalt). brows.gif

Circ saw is basic tool not worth spending too much on it if you don't use it that often. Stanley RM289 tongue.gif for that price range I'd get a GKS140 1400W instead at few bucks more https://shopee.com.my/product/29050559/5058539120 or the Makita MT5801.

IMO a cheapo tool with good blades (branded blade like bosch T80 fine cut) can do nice cuts. Eg. RM149 1300W Okatz seem very popular https://shopee.com.my/product/11272182/4844194808 .. the only thing is the blade guard seem to be plastic (not metal) cost cutting? at work I remember abusing the shit out of the cheap Okatz jigsaw and a few Bosch blades for cutting many plywood sheets and it worked great laugh.gif

In terms of motor size, a bigger motor can cut hardwood like balau or plywood easier (faster) without bogging down. If cutting pine or softwood only, no issue for any saw.

For blade size the 7in (184mm) blade is common and cheaper than the 6in ones.
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post Sep 5 2021, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Sep 5 2021, 02:27 PM)
Stanley is the lowest tier of SBD lineup (S < B&D < Dewalt). brows.gif

Circ saw is basic tool not worth spending too much on it if you don't use it that often. Stanley RM289 tongue.gif for that price range I'd get a GKS140 1400W instead at few bucks more https://shopee.com.my/product/29050559/5058539120 or the Makita MT5801.

IMO a cheapo tool with good blades (branded blade like bosch T80 fine cut) can do nice cuts. Eg. RM149 1300W Okatz seem very popular https://shopee.com.my/product/11272182/4844194808 .. the only thing is the blade guard seem to be plastic (not metal) cost cutting? at work I remember abusing the shit out of the cheap Okatz jigsaw and a few Bosch blades for cutting many plywood sheets and it worked great laugh.gif

In terms of motor size, a bigger motor can cut hardwood like balau or plywood easier (faster) without bogging down. If cutting pine or softwood only, no issue for any saw.

For blade size the 7in (184mm) blade is common and cheaper than the 6in ones.
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Makita 5801 was in part of my wishlist (second link) which is 1050w vs stanley 1600w, I think will mainly deal with 12mm plywood

would you recommend Bosch over Makita? I would prefer to buy a better quality brand and safety always the top priority for me.
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post Sep 5 2021, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(star0c3an @ Sep 5 2021, 03:10 PM)
Makita 5801 was in part of my wishlist (second link) which is 1050w vs stanley 1600w,  I think will mainly deal with 12mm plywood

would you recommend Bosch over Makita? I would prefer to buy a better quality brand and safety always the top priority for me.
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I'm more Bosch oriented because of pricing and (I like to see that companies not afraid of having a proper datasheet) plus you get a 1300W bigger motor (so in hardwood you don't run the risk of the blade slowing down and bogging down but circ saw rotation direction is safe as it'll just tighten itself into the wood).

Between Bosch and Makita..Equally I would regard both as good as each other smile.gif

My stuff is heavily Bosch coz my dad is a "Bosch for life" person so that adage also carried down to me. Personally I have the previous version circ saw GKS7000, with parallel guide it cuts very cleanly with fine cut 80T blade. If you want super fast cut without need of finesse you can use a 40T blade. (More teeth finer cut but slower).

I guess you can say I'mma Bosch and Kyoritsu meter gal coz of these, some for work:
GSB180Li drill driver
GBH180Li cordless rotohammer
GBH 2-24 rotohammer
GDS 18V 400 impact wrench
GWS060 grinder
GKS7000 circ saw
GST700 jigsaw

Makita mini router

Kyoritsu clamp n desktop DMM
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post Sep 6 2021, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(star0c3an @ Sep 5 2021, 11:43 AM)
Hi all, I planning to start home woodworking DIY and planning to buy tools, I come across two brand for circular saw and sander - Stanley or Makita

Stanley
https://shopee.com.my/product/336820079/407...82-1630813039.9

Makita
https://shopee.com.my/product/80183826/7716...82-1630813178.9

I see the Stanley saw is 1600w Vs Makita 1050w, is there much different? Which one would you recommend? I saw online seems like Stanley is mostly hated in US because of quality and after sales service

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That is in the US laugh.gif

Dewalt, Stanley, and Black and Decter are all under Stanley and Black & Decker.

Dewalt bought by Black & Decker long time ago. Later Stanley merged with Black & Decker to be call what it is now.

I own Stanley circular saw for reason of warranty cover. laugh.gif

Dewalt - 3 years
Stanley - 2 years
Black & Decker - 1 year

As for my knowledge, Stanley is hot brand. Many companies want to sell their products under Stanley name but of course you will have to agree with Stanley term. For example, Stanley water-jet washer are from many other companies over several years. Now it is actually a product from an Italian company called AR Blue Clean. You'd be surprised that the warranty for similar model is only 1 year from the AR Blue Ocean but 2 years if you buy Stanley re-branded one laugh.gif

I'd say probably just buy any known brand that is most convenient to get service from just in case you need one. wink.gif

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for the same reason that sis ceo684 had mentioned, i have more Bosch than Makita except the Trimmer/Router RTC0700C / Track saw. Bosch mostly made in malaysia hence tool and battery are more affordable. With similar pricing, you are getting near to the heavy duty tool from Bosch blue compared to entry makita. Service center is plenty too for spare parts.

But I think for DIY most of them are good as you won't be working the sh*t out of the tools. Go with whatever your budget allows.
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QUOTE(kennji @ Sep 6 2021, 09:41 AM)
But I think for DIY most of them are good as you won't be working the sh*t out of the tools. Go with whatever your budget allows.
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Get at least a bosch instead of none brand. Even it is unplugged, when you hold it you can feel the might flow through you.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(chamelion @ Sep 6 2021, 09:53 AM)
Get at least a bosch instead of none brand. Even it is unplugged, when you hold it you can feel the might flow through you.. smile.gif
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That is probably more on perception most people have because of brand name. Bosch has many models and made using cheaper motor from China nowadays.

Even the US customers have complains on quality due breakdown frequency. They even compare made in US and China, Philippines, or Malaysia. Well, they probably less aware that even Milwaukee also made in China laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 6 2021, 10:36 AM)
That is probably more on perception most people have because of brand name. Bosch has many models and made using cheaper motor from China nowadays.

Even the US customers have complains on quality due breakdown frequency. They even compare made in US and China, Philippines, or Malaysia. Well, they probably less aware that even Milwaukee also made in China  laugh.gif
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The made in Japan makita that comes in red pink white purple are cute wub.gif

https://www.amazon.co.jp/TD149DZP-Makita-Ch...30928539&sr=8-2
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post Sep 6 2021, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 6 2021, 08:40 AM)
That is in the US  laugh.gif

Dewalt, Stanley, and Black and Decter are all under Stanley and Black & Decker.

Dewalt bought by Black & Decker long time ago. Later Stanley merged with Black & Decker to be call what it is now.

I own Stanley circular saw for reason of warranty cover.  laugh.gif

Dewalt - 3 years
Stanley - 2 years
Black & Decker - 1 year

As for my knowledge, Stanley is hot brand. Many companies want to sell their products under Stanley name but of course you will have to agree with Stanley term. For example, Stanley water-jet washer are from many other companies over several years. Now it is actually a product from an Italian company called AR Blue Clean. You'd be surprised that the warranty for similar model is only 1 year from the AR Blue Ocean but 2 years if you buy Stanley re-branded one  laugh.gif

I'd say probably just buy any known brand that is most convenient to get service from just in case you need one.  wink.gif
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Thank you for reminding me about the warranty, after checking I am going for Makita because there is a service center in my area while Bosch and Stanley, I have to send it out for repair
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QUOTE(star0c3an @ Sep 6 2021, 08:02 PM)
Thank you for reminding me about the warranty, after checking I am going for Makita because there is a service center in my area while Bosch and Stanley, I have to send it out for repair
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Yes, makes sense. I can send my Dewalt and Stanley not far from my house for service smile.gif
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Sep 6 2021, 07:42 PM)
The made in Japan makita that comes in red pink white purple are cute wub.gif

https://www.amazon.co.jp/TD149DZP-Makita-Ch...30928539&sr=8-2
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Pink color tool was released in 2011 by Makita to support Susan breast cancer foundation. I think more on small compact tool. More light weight. Same like Bosch release of smaller and compact tool biggrin.gif
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hi...

any mini chain saw to recommend?similar like attached photo...

thanks...


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hi...

any mini chain saw to recommend?similar like attached photo...

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Why do you need one? For what purpose? For me people probably buy out of curiosity, not for it purpose. Reciprocating saw is more practical. Chain saw you need to oil the chain too. smile.gif

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 7 2021, 10:16 AM)
hi...

any mini chain saw to recommend?similar like attached photo...

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If is for casual or fun trimming, it should be ok. Dont expect the battery to last for more than half hour if is continuous work.

As above forumer @ZOT suggested, if you are in Subang or PJ area and decided to buy a reciprocating saw, I have a used unit to let go for RM50 (bought for RM180) but you need to buy the battery. I bought a corded replacement which is more suitable for longer duration use in my orchard.

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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 7 2021, 10:24 AM)
Why do you need one? For what purpose? For me people probably buy out of curiosity, not for it purpose. Reciprocating saw is more practical. Chain saw you need to oil the chain too.  smile.gif
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to cut tree...saw ppl using to but the tree beside the road ..fast and easy ...
so thinking to get 1...

QUOTE(mini orchard @ Sep 7 2021, 12:37 PM)
If is for casual or fun trimming, it should be ok. Dont expect the battery to last for more than half hour if is continuous work.

As above forumer @ZOT suggested, if you are in Subang or PJ area and decided to buy a reciprocating saw, I have a used unit to let go for RM50 (bought for RM180) but you need to buy the battery. I bought a corded replacement which is more suitable for longer duration use in my orchard.

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this i have already ..china one 88v battery ...very slow maybe the blade not suitable?


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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 7 2021, 01:17 PM)
to cut tree...saw ppl using to but the tree beside the road ..fast and easy ...
so thinking to get 1...
this i have already ..china one 88v battery ...very slow maybe the blade not suitable?
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For high, low, thick and thin branches, I use this for my fruit trees ..... extendable.

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 7 2021, 01:17 PM)
to cut tree...saw ppl using to but the tree beside the road ..fast and easy ...
so thinking to get 1...
this i have already ..china one 88v battery ...very slow maybe the blade not suitable?
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Then if you have other cordless type of tool, use same brand like if you have Makita tool then buy Makita mini chain saw. smile.gif
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Guys, anyone using welding set at home? I'm thinking to get a TIG or MIG welding machine (single phase)

Need some recommendation, planning to weld stainless steel or titanium pipe.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Sep 7 2021, 02:01 PM)
For high, low, thick and thin branches, I use this for my fruit trees ..... extendable.

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this have too ..but the mata not sharp after used for sometimes ..
use more energy to pull up ..pull down ..

QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 7 2021, 03:22 PM)
Then if you have other cordless type of tool, use same brand like if you have Makita tool then buy Makita mini chain saw.  smile.gif
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no makita brand tools ..
china mini saw cordless not recommend?

thanks ...
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 7 2021, 08:05 PM)
this have too ..but the mata not sharp after used for sometimes ..
use more energy to pull up ..pull down ..
no makita brand tools ..
china mini saw cordless not recommend?

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I guess it is like buying 4D. If you are lucky, it will serve you for some time but if you're not then prepare to throw it away.

Buying China with unknown brand name that change every month is like gambling. Lucky if you can find spare part. The battery also need to know if compatible with any known brand, else become useless.

Now even known brand are amused by these toy. Name like Stihl even made one but some of them uttered disappointment because it broke down laugh.gif

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