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post Jan 9 2020, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(yushin @ Jan 9 2020, 02:53 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, for worx, Orange is for home user, Green is for their professional line of products.
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The vacuum have green and orange from Worx?

Fall on grey ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 9 2020, 02:59 PM)
How come I did not see green on website or I missed them?
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The green recently saw it. Last time only have orange.

Like bosch got blue and green. Makita got white and green.

Macam macam. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 9 2020, 02:59 PM)
How come I did not see green on website or I missed them?
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I saw them on taobao's worx site. I think Malaysia worx didn't bring in so many green color worx.

worx tmall flagship store in China.
https://worx.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?s...r_id=1734094296

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Anyone can rent me a hammer drill with chisel? I will be using it max 1 day. So renting 7 days is really not a good option for me. My location is around kepong/mont kiara

I want to do the following:
1. 8" hole for exhaust hood
2. De-tiles/shaving 2cm from heightened tiles from the ground as planned to buy and install ikea's metod 80cm base cabinet (just shy away about 1cm plus😭)
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 9 2020, 03:18 PM)
The green recently saw it. Last time only have orange.

Like bosch got blue and green. Makita got white and green.

Macam macam.  rclxub.gif
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Everyone wants to sapu customers from hobbyist to professional laugh.gif
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Good Morning,

my >10 years B&D 12v battery almost kaput.
I have check out a few batteries from Ali and Shopee but i doubt with the discharge specification.
This is so hard to decide because the drill is fine but the cost of a new battery is very near to getting new lithium drill..

Does anyone know where I can get a reasonable price and reliable replacement battery?
Did anyone try to swap the NiCd to Lithium type?

Thank you.


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post Jan 10 2020, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jan 10 2020, 08:16 AM)
Good Morning,

my >10 years B&D 12v battery almost kaput.
I have check out a few batteries from Ali and Shopee but i doubt with the discharge specification.
This is so hard to decide because the drill is fine but the cost of a new battery is very near to getting new lithium drill..

Does anyone know where I can get a reasonable price and reliable replacement battery?
Did anyone try to swap the NiCd to Lithium type?

Thank you.
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This is one of the problem with cordless type sad.gif Sometimes the battery get discontinued. What is your drill model?
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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jan 10 2020, 08:16 AM)
Good Morning,

my >10 years B&D 12v battery almost kaput.
I have check out a few batteries from Ali and Shopee but i doubt with the discharge specification.
This is so hard to decide because the drill is fine but the cost of a new battery is very near to getting new lithium drill..

Does anyone know where I can get a reasonable price and reliable replacement battery?
Did anyone try to swap the NiCd to Lithium type?

Thank you.
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There are people that replace their old powertool nicd battery with 18650 lithium. However all are DIY type.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 10 2020, 08:52 AM)
This is one of the problem with cordless type  sad.gif  Sometimes the battery get discontinued. What is your drill model?
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it is an old NiCd 12V drill using HPB12 Battery.
Battery still available from B&D and it is possible to purchase NiCd battery to diy replace internally. It just the price to get the HpB12 battery is ~RM100 less than getting a new Lithium Bosch. That is why i am seeking to get a reliable NiCd battery locally as the price inc shipping also is not cheap too.

older than this but is a similar series.
https://www.blackanddecker.com/products/pow...echnology/ss12c

QUOTE(yushin @ Jan 10 2020, 09:34 AM)
There are people that replace their old power tool NiCd battery with 18650 lithium. However all are DIY type.
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Yeah, the charging unit and battery circuit board also need to replace.


The $$$ to replace the battery or upgrade to Lithium is so turn off and the drill unit is still usable...

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jan 10 2020, 09:50 AM)
it is an old NiCd 12V drill using HPB12 Battery.
Battery still available from B&D and it is possible to purchase NiCd battery to diy replace internally. It just the price to get the HpB12 battery is ~RM100 less than getting a new Lithium Bosch. That is why i am seeking to get a reliable NiCd battery locally as the price inc shipping also is not cheap too.

older than this but is a similar series.
https://www.blackanddecker.com/products/pow...echnology/ss12c
Yeah, the charging unit and battery circuit board also need to replace.
The $$$ to replace the battery or upgrade to Lithium is so turn off and the drill unit is still usable...
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Thats how thing progress lor, as nicd is old technology and the battery will eventually fail.
If you have the skill, you can consider buying semi assembled nimh cell from taobao and replacing it yourself.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1...583783906315%7D

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jan 10 2020, 09:50 AM)
it is an old NiCd 12V drill using HPB12 Battery.
Battery still available from B&D and it is possible to purchase NiCd battery to diy replace internally. It just the price to get the HpB12 battery is ~RM100 less than getting a new Lithium Bosch. That is why i am seeking to get a reliable NiCd battery locally as the price inc shipping also is not cheap too.

older than this but is a similar series.
https://www.blackanddecker.com/products/pow...echnology/ss12c
Yeah, the charging unit and battery circuit board also need to replace.
The $$$ to replace the battery or upgrade to Lithium is so turn off and the drill unit is still usable...
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NiCad battery is still good for heavy duty job and has recycle time probably 2x the Lithium. Just that you should not keep them in charged condition.

Have you tried AliExpress. My quick browse saw one around RM72 with free shipping for HPB12. Buy from US shipping sometimes cost more than the product itself laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yushin @ Jan 10 2020, 10:03 AM)
Thats how thing progress lor, as nicd is old technology and the battery will eventually fail.
If you have the skill, you can consider buying semi assembled nimh cell from taobao and replacing it yourself.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1...583783906315%7D
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 10 2020, 10:07 AM)
NiCad battery is still good for heavy duty job and has recycle time probably 2x the Lithium. Just that you should not keep them in charged condition.

Have you tried AliExpress. My quick browse saw one around RM72 with free shipping for HPB12. Buy from US shipping sometimes cost more than the product itself  laugh.gif
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Yes, my intention is to replace the battery cell only. Just wan to see any local option before order from Ali. Nowdays, Ali's shipping is expensive for battery.
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Those giants, nowadays you are likely to pay for the brand tag rather than their tools credibility.

Unless you're saying for their trademark power tool like Hitachi for their nailer, Bosch for their SDS, Hilti for their breaker, etc.
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Those giants, nowadays you are likely to pay for the brand tag rather than their tools credibility.

Unless you're saying for their trademark power tool like Hitachi for their nailer, Bosch for their SDS, Hilti for their breaker, etc.
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and when you pay for brand tag and budget; you want it last. you dont want to have something like proton.
each have their strength.


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Those giants, nowadays you are likely to pay for the brand tag rather than their tools credibility.

Unless you're saying for their trademark power tool like Hitachi for their nailer, Bosch for their SDS, Hilti for their breaker, etc.
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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 12 2020, 03:28 PM)
and when you pay for brand tag and budget; you want it last. you dont want to have something like proton.
each have their strength.
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This is mostly true to any product but you also pay extra for after sale services and warranty too, not just material cost. You know the company will still be around at least during warranty period laugh.gif

Big brands sell several models even for amateur and pro series. Basically the electronics side are mostly the same. The branded one use more reliable parts but unknown brands also not necessarily using cheaper parts even though they sell for significantly less price. They need to maintain competitiveness.

They add like coating for water proofing and some even potting the PCBA like car MCU for more expensive model. The cost is not much more but the top series models bear significantly higher price tag. I know because I do costing on products and my company also do PCBAs for Milwaukee wink.gif Anyway, big companies also hve high operating cost compare to smaller companies, thus this cost will go into products they sell laugh.gif
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How long warranty brand here? I know Dewalt have like 3 years limited warranty. The most reliable is Hilti, the send people to pickup your broken tools within 2 years.

The so called renown brands, to break 1 to 2 times within 6-12 months is normal, so does cheaper tool, nothing special.

In US for example, they have the latest model, offer 2-3 times cheaper price than here and longer warranty period.
Ridgid, Hikoki is lifetime warranty. 5 years Milwaukee warranty, etc. If you follow Milwaukee fb group page. They tend to do 1 to 1 replacement for broken tools.
Thats reliability.



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Here is what I like the WORX vacuum.

Just sit ontop of the table. Hand distance reaches when need it. Small doesn't occupy the table.

The design form like a box that differs from the normal vacuum.

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QUOTE(odour_stop @ Jan 13 2020, 04:00 PM)
How long warranty brand here? I know Dewalt have like 3 years limited warranty. The most reliable is Hilti, the send people to pickup your broken tools within 2 years.

The so called renown brands, to break 1 to 2 times within 6-12 months is normal, so does cheaper tool, nothing special.

In US for example, they have the latest model, offer 2-3 times cheaper price than here and longer warranty period.
Ridgid, Hikoki is lifetime warranty. 5 years Milwaukee warranty, etc. If you follow Milwaukee fb group page. They tend to do 1 to 1 replacement for broken tools.
Thats reliability.
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Every country has different warranty. Why? They pay different price. That is why warranty is different from country to country.
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QUOTE(odour_stop @ Jan 13 2020, 05:30 PM)
How long warranty brand here? I know Dewalt have like 3 years limited warranty. The most reliable is Hilti, the send people to pickup your broken tools within 2 years.

The so called renown brands, to break 1 to 2 times within 6-12 months is normal, so does cheaper tool, nothing special.

In US for example, they have the latest model, offer 2-3 times cheaper price than here and longer warranty period.
Ridgid, Hikoki is lifetime warranty. 5 years Milwaukee warranty, etc. If you follow Milwaukee fb group page. They tend to do 1 to 1 replacement for broken tools.
Thats reliability.
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That why go for Milwaukeee! biggrin.gif

If just Hilti go retail and people buy.

Best for our building construction type. - concrete.


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