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 LYN Power Tools Discussion V2, Bosch, Makita, Dewalt, Dremel etc

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post Nov 24 2017, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 24 2017, 06:37 AM)
guys any cheap or worthy item to buy during black friday?
anyone buying anything?
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ayam scouting for an 18V blower

i really dunno what bosch 18v tool i wanna invest liao, so i maybe will get that blower i always think unnecessary laugh.gif
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post Nov 24 2017, 07:59 AM

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I am glad to report that FDTOOLS15 apparently have RM200 limit

15% disc, min rm200 purchase.

but purchases are limited to those items tagged with the offer
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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 24 2017, 06:37 AM)
guys any cheap or worthy item to buy during black friday?
anyone buying anything?
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There is alot of thing to buy. But alot of thing that cannot ship out here too.

I give up black friday.
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post Nov 24 2017, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 24 2017, 07:21 AM)
ayam scouting for an 18V blower

i really dunno what bosch 18v tool i wanna invest liao, so i maybe will get that blower i always think unnecessary  laugh.gif
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post Nov 24 2017, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 24 2017, 07:21 AM)
ayam scouting for an 18V blower

i really dunno what bosch 18v tool i wanna invest liao, so i maybe will get that blower i always think unnecessary  laugh.gif
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After getting the 18v blower, I never used my corded blower again.
The 18v blower is a bit lower power tho compared to cord. Less 20-30% power
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post Nov 24 2017, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 24 2017, 08:29 AM)
There is alot of thing to buy. But alot of thing that cannot ship out here too.

I give up black friday.
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Look at amazon black friday deal, wah... good price.
Next look at delivery charges, dammit I'll just buy "alternatives/OEM" from Taobao instead.
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post Nov 24 2017, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(yushin @ Nov 24 2017, 08:54 AM)
Look at amazon black friday deal, wah... good price.
Next look at delivery charges, dammit I'll just buy "alternatives/OEM" from Taobao instead.
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optoma uhd 4k projector wah really cheap drool.gif

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post Nov 24 2017, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 23 2017, 07:41 PM)
Take smaller cut and not that precise is still ok.

Buying china machine like this is tricky. have to check properly, research alot.

This are the main weak arm. The all aluminium material on the machine is already know that it is not that strong.

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Z-axis should be fine but X & Y probably weaker, especially when they feed using electric motor. I'm not sure if they used closed loop system with sensor feedback to ensure the distances are correct when the resistance of cutting varies.

I think you can't expect much from a CNC machine priced at there. Even pneumatic driven feed machine from china will cost 15~30k.
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QUOTE(SheepGeeks @ Nov 24 2017, 09:06 AM)
Z-axis should be fine but X & Y probably weaker, especially when they feed using electric motor. I'm not sure if they used closed loop system with sensor feedback to ensure the distances are correct when the resistance of cutting varies.

I think you can't expect much from a CNC machine priced at there. Even pneumatic driven feed machine from china will cost 15~30k.
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If I set the cut rate at 0.5mm it should not exert too much force on the support.
Can cut slower if you are not rushing to produce many units in short time.

Big strong industrial grade CNC too big too heavy too expensive to put inside the house. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yushin @ Nov 24 2017, 08:54 AM)
Look at amazon black friday deal, wah... good price.
Next look at delivery charges, dammit I'll just buy "alternatives/OEM" from Taobao instead.
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Everytime see the thing shiok shiok, nice price. Than check the deliver, "This item does not ship to MY". vmad.gif

Few more time see this message, no mood already.
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QUOTE(SheepGeeks @ Nov 24 2017, 09:06 AM)
Z-axis should be fine but X & Y probably weaker, especially when they feed using electric motor. I'm not sure if they used closed loop system with sensor feedback to ensure the distances are correct when the resistance of cutting varies.

I think you can't expect much from a CNC machine priced at there. Even pneumatic driven feed machine from china will cost 15~30k.
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Every axis is important. Any weak structure on the axis will cause accuracy. I can't see the rest behind structure.

Actually before this, I did check this similar mc in youtube. Damn, the structure y and z axis is super thin. With some thin alu angle bar ass'y together.

Not sure this stepping motor have a feedback or not. Mostly don't have. The picture motor behind have a white cap which normally don't have. That white cap usually house a feedback unit inside.

If the mc can't do what you expect it to do, what the use to buy it even it is cheap ?

Or get the cheapest wan, modify it to strengthen the mechanism side. What you want is the controller and the motor. You don't need everything depend on China to make. Make your CNC. flex.gif


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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 24 2017, 10:01 AM)
Every axis is important. Any weak structure on the axis will cause accuracy. I can't see the rest behind structure.

Actually before this, I did check this similar mc in youtube. Damn, the structure y and z axis is super thin. With some thin alu angle bar ass'y together.

Not sure this stepping motor have a feedback or not. Mostly don't have. The picture motor behind have a white cap which normally don't have.  That white cap usually house a feedback unit inside.

If the mc can't do what you expect it to do, what the use to buy it even it is cheap ?

Or get the cheapest wan, modify it to strengthen the mechanism side. What you want is the controller and the motor. You don't need everything depend on China to make. Make your CNC.  flex.gif
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I guess the same, no feedback because the sensors itself are costly.

I went to one of the pneumatic shop in Klang to get the full booklet, they have all the parts required for pneumatic cnc machine, from pneumatic clamp, table rotate, feed piston, etc but I don't know how should I build the system cry.gif cry.gif


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 24 2017, 07:59 AM)
I am glad to report that FDTOOLS15 apparently have RM200 limit

15% disc, min rm200 purchase.

but purchases are limited to those items tagged with the offer
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this is for what site ar? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 24 2017, 11:45 AM)
this is for what site ar? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yushin @ Nov 24 2017, 11:46 AM)
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post Nov 24 2017, 08:30 PM

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Bosch GRO12V solo
Include delivery to Malaysia is RM420
Price is ok?
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QUOTE(yushin @ Nov 24 2017, 08:30 PM)
Bosch GRO12V solo
Include delivery to Malaysia is RM420
Price is ok?
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Without battery and charger for 420?

Dremel got better?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 24 2017, 09:25 PM)
Without battery and charger for 420? 

Dremel got better?
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Browse around lazada and ebay, bare tool ranges from 550-650.
The Bosch GRO has has more power/torque than dremel 8200.

If I buy dremel I need to maintain another battery platform. bangwall.gif
Dremel 8200 costs about RM500 with 1 10.8v 1.5AH batt and charger.

PBosch GRO price in UK is 50gbp. Transport 16gbp, ouch!!!

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QUOTE(yushin @ Nov 24 2017, 08:30 PM)
Bosch GRO12V solo
Include delivery to Malaysia is RM420
Price is ok?
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china tmall dun have? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yushin @ Nov 24 2017, 08:30 PM)
Bosch GRO12V solo
Include delivery to Malaysia is RM420
Price is ok?
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I tought dremel was under bosch too~ lucky i get my 8200 dremel around rm250 at home pro clearance sale biggrin.gif
at 1st i tought my bosch 12v or 10.8v batt can fit cox look like same but like you said the batt is diff so i need to buy extra bat that cost me aroung rm100 at lazada sale cry.gif

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