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post Mar 21 2007, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Mar 21 2007, 02:49 PM)
My library card and Chubb card (security card) is in all white. You can just use a folded piece of white paper. Don't continuously shoot the flash whever it recharges, you risk burning the flash and card (i did this and a small burnt mark was left on the card) If you let the flash cools down properly, it will do no harm.

edit: nvm, went out and took a sample:
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taken at iso 800, f/4.5, +5.0 EV, at very low light. That's the 18-70mm btw.

brighter lens help alot, and post processing might be needed, so...take raw and mess around...you'd also get different result with different cards...as in how much light could go though and how much is bounced. Of course, nothing beats a proper external flash....the postman ought to bring me my sb600 already!  mad.gif
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thanks for sharing notworthy.gif

if the A4 paper is thick, will the flash go thru? i try to use tissue before and result is the tissue very smelly of burn
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post Mar 21 2007, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Mar 21 2007, 02:49 PM)
My library card and Chubb card (security card) is in all white. You can just use a folded piece of white paper. Don't continuously shoot the flash whever it recharges, you risk burning the flash and card (i did this and a small burnt mark was left on the card) If you let the flash cools down properly, it will do no harm.

edit: nvm, went out and took a sample:
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taken at iso 800, f/4.5, +5.0 EV, at very low light. That's the 18-70mm btw.

brighter lens help alot, and post processing might be needed, so...take raw and mess around...you'd also get different result with different cards...as in how much light could go though and how much is bounced. Of course, nothing beats a proper external flash....the postman ought to bring me my sb600 already!  mad.gif
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is that a d80?
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post Mar 21 2007, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Wifi_One @ Mar 21 2007, 04:38 PM)
is that a d80?
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thats the d50.
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post Mar 22 2007, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(m|ng @ Mar 21 2007, 05:07 AM)
Alamak,

What do you mean by +5.0EV? is that the exposure compensation?

Then the picture will not look super bright meh?
are all camera's exposure compensation the same?

So you only use +EV's in dark conditions and - EV's in Bright sunny days?
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Yup, exposure compensation. It will not look washed out because it is not direct flash. You need to play around with the compensation because u'd get different results in different lighting conditions. Whenever you wanna do this trick and don't wanna do too much post processing, just bump the exposure compensation up. Sometimes your camera wont be able to compensate for the exposure fully and you'd need post processing to bump the exposure up, so always take in RAW. The only problem I ran into is I always forget to set the compensation level back after im done taking picture with it sweat.gif

Direct flash + diffuser still looks very crappy to me, bouncing is the only way. Tissue paper works fine as diffuser, but if you shoot the flash directly, you will still get hard shadows and what not. The cigarette box works well as a bouncer anyway tongue.gif

and yes, that's a D50...poor man like me can't afford D80 tongue.gif

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post Mar 22 2007, 04:12 AM

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waa... very good idea aaa use rubber band + white card.. i saw people using dat film case.. u kno when u buy film, that white cylindrical case tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2007, 08:36 AM

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I've got a couple of em at home tongue.gif
Who wants? Lelong..rm10 each..HAHAHA.. nola..joking..
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post Mar 22 2007, 09:04 AM

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using film case is diffusing, not bouncing though.
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Mar 22 2007, 09:04 AM)
using film case is diffusing, not bouncing though.
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ya ya ya.. aiyokk~ confuse with the term laa tongue.gif thanx for correcting~
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post Mar 22 2007, 10:58 AM

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wah, so tempting! that explains a lot bout SB400.
i might get one later. thnx 4 sharing TS.
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post Mar 22 2007, 11:38 AM

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anyone else have sb400? can share experience and knowledge?
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post Mar 23 2007, 01:16 PM

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check out Ken Rockwell website for the SB-400 review. I was thinking of SB600 but now leaning back to SB400. COol DIY bounce.........
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post Mar 23 2007, 09:17 PM

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i heard someone did this on the SB400 :
twist the flash head 90deg up. there's a gap to slot in a business card just behind the flash head. you'll get a nice balance of ceiling & card bounced light (most ppl carry a white biz card in the wallet smile.gif )
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post Mar 24 2007, 02:12 AM

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that's the traditional way of using the bounce card. The sb400 will give you most of what you'd need, but the sb600 and sb800 will give you alot more flexibility. Here's a softlight bounce card I made following this tutorial:

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bounce to the front
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bounce to rear wall

you can also point the flash to the side and bounce it off a side wall, all sorts of wonderful thing you can play around if your flash can rotate.

here's the original turotial:
http://www.abetterbouncecard.com/

ps: the tutorial didn't use a diffuser with the card, I chose to use it coz I find that without the diffuser, there's still some harsh shadow when taken in short distance.

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yeah i've seen the betterbouncecard video before & it's great & flexible

i think ppl buy SB400 for its small size & a simple business card which can be slot in without any attachment will be handy & mobile. that the whole selling point of D40+SB400 - compact & mobile package
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post Mar 24 2007, 06:21 PM

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i agree with u on the compact and mobile package..

the weight of my sis's d80 is so dam heavy.. lugging it around is tiring...

plus d40 + sb400 is kida cute.... mini dslr... lol
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post Mar 29 2007, 01:50 PM

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Wifi_One, got try ur flash to be bounce like this?

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get it from photomalaysia


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post Mar 29 2007, 04:43 PM

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that's somthing new.. hmm... might try it... will post pic when i do..
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post May 1 2007, 12:05 AM

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where can get the cheapest SB400?
can get less than rm400?
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post May 4 2007, 03:52 PM

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Went for survey for speedlight to use with my D40, this photoshop ask me to take another brand of speedlight (forgotten the brand) cos she said its performance same as SB800 but a lot cheaper. Can I go for the 3rd party one or better get the original one?
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post May 12 2007, 01:27 PM

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original one
guy i selling SB400 one
new set


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