This post has been edited by benson92: May 25 2017, 10:49 AM
Attached thumbnail(s)
Tous Les Jours Malaysia closed down?
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:48 AM, updated 9y ago
Show posts by this member only | Post
#1
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,010 posts Joined: May 2015 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:50 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#2
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,247 posts Joined: Feb 2013 From: opis |
big boss no money?
PROPERTY developer and asset manager Mammoth Empire Holdings Sdn Bhd has signed on the dotted line to sell its flagship Empire Shopping Gallery in Subang Jaya, Selangor, to Pelaburan Hartanah Bhd (PHB) for RM570 million cash. With the agreement, which was sealed late last week, MEH will be able to raise some much-needed funds and quash rumours of further delays in the completion of its behemoth Empire City Damansara project near Damansara Perdana, Selangor. When contacted, PHB group managing director Datuk Kamalul Arifin Othman confirms that the deal was concluded late last week. “We bought it for RM570 million,” he tells The Edge. It is learnt that MEH has been granted a call option to buy back the shopping mall on the fifth anniversary of the sale. It also has the right of first refusal to buy the mall should PHB decide to dispose of it within the five years. However, Kamalul declined to comment when asked to confirm if the terms of the agreement included MEH’s right to buy back the mall in five years’ time. He was also tight-lipped on the minimum price that MEH would need to repurchase Empire Shopping Gallery. Sources, nevertheless, say the price is RM670 million or the market value of the asset at the time, whichever is higher. This means PHB will be able to make at least RM100 million in profit over five years or RM20 million a year while it holds the property. It will also enjoy the net income derived from the mall. The Edge had previously reported that the mall’s net rental yield is around 6.5% to 7%. The Empire Shopping Gallery has a gross built-up area of 600,000 sq ft and net lettable area of 350,000 sq ft spread over five levels. A total of 216 tenants occupy 98% of the shopping centre, whose sale is expected to be completed in the next three months. “It is a win-win situation for both parties because MEH is able to unlock the value of the asset now and yet regain ownership at a later date while for PHB, the 6.5% net rental yield is above the prevailing rate for fixed deposits, plus the guaranteed buyback is at a higher price in the future,” a valuer tells The Edge when asked for his comments. Details of the deal are scanty. Still, its timing may raise eyebrows, considering that there is shopping mall glut at present and subdued consumer spending due to a sluggish economy. Market observers comment that as a fund that invests in real estate, PHB could have bargained for a more favourable deal. More so because MEH can choose to repurchase the mall after five years if it is still performing well — and the company has the financial muscle to do so — or not if it is not. Interestingly, the management of the mall remains in MEH’s hands. The Empire Shopping Gallery and the Empire Hotel catapulted MEH to fame in 2010, although the group had been operational since 2002. The group was founded by Datuk Sean Ng Yee Teck, who is the group managing director, and Datuk Danny Cheah, who is the group executive director. Sentimental reasons aside, it is understood that MEH opted for the call option because it sees further upside for the mall as it has been operational for only six years now and has yet to realise its full potential. An MEH spokesperson says with the deal, an earlier plan to raise funds through the issuance of bonds has been scrapped. In June last year, The Edge reported that MEH was ready to let go of the shopping mall should it receive a favourable and concrete offer. Subsequently, in August, The Edge reported that MEH was looking at raising funds via bonds and had engaged Hong Leong Investment Bank Bhd and credit rating company RAM Holdings Bhd for the exercise. The spokesperson adds that the bulk of the money from the sale will go towards the completion of Empire City Damansara while the remainder will be used as working capital. The 28-acre integrated development with an estimated gross development value of RM5 billion is located opposite the PJ Trade Centre in Mutiara Damansara. Incidentally, PHB had purchased from MEH an 18-storey office block with 319 parking bays, known as Block H, in Empire City Damansara for, according to sources, RM120 million. The spokesperson also says MEH plans to move into Block H on April 17 this year. “The CCC (certificate of completion and compliance) for the building is expected to be awarded in February. We will be moving from our current headquarters in Empire Subang to Empire City Damansara as we will have a much larger component to take care of. We will be taking up five levels in the building.” PHB is understood to be looking for tenants to fill the other floors. On the two million sq ft retail component of Empire City Damansara, whose opening has been delayed several times, the spokesperson says, “We are targeting a partial opening in August to coincide with the 29th SEA Games.” Acknowledging that a few tenants had dropped out due to the delay, he says there have also been requests from some tenants to postpone the opening. Even so, the Empire City Damansara mall has managed to secure 80% tenants. One of the three Marriott International hotels will be ready by year end, the spokesperson adds. He dismisses speculation that Empire City Damansara may not be ready to host the SEA Games’ ice-skating event this August. In fact, he says, the venue will be handed over in April or May this year for the participants to start their training. This is the only ice-skating rink with Olympic specifications in Malaysia. By the time the Games start, there will be no sign of the cranes, he adds. “All the physical and structural components will be completed. There will be no more construction activity when we open.” This article first appeared in The Edge Malaysia on Jan 30, 2017. This post has been edited by tahfeikei: May 25 2017, 10:51 AM |
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:50 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#3
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
937 posts Joined: Jun 2006 |
lol not even 3years right?
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:51 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#4
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,389 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: Southern Region |
Overrated
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:51 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#5
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
2,774 posts Joined: Jun 2009 |
overpriced bread
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:52 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#6
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
2,948 posts Joined: Jun 2007 |
but their biz quite good, esp the Sungei Wang area.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:52 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#7
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,093 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Internet |
so sad, tried in vietnam and korea
better than malaysia's ... their coffee in malaysia taste so bad |
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:56 AM
Show posts by this member only | Post
#8
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,010 posts Joined: May 2015 |
QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ May 25 2017, 10:50 AM) i think soQUOTE(advocado @ May 25 2017, 10:52 AM) yes but overpriced still got ppl go QUOTE(Flizzardo @ May 25 2017, 10:52 AM) agree, korea i tried before, not badQUOTE(SummerSkyLuxe @ May 25 2017, 10:53 AM) their pastries and drinks is just average for the classiness they exude although they had great location and shop interior, when you step in there's no aircon in certain spots and they didn't maintain it well |
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:57 AM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#9
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,176 posts Joined: May 2006 From: Memesia |
kolos je... masih banyak brand lain lagi...
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:58 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
5,363 posts Joined: Apr 2005 From: กรุงเทพมหานคร BKK |
should be $
rumours been running round since the stalling of the mega project 2+ years ago |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:00 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
499 posts Joined: May 2013 |
bangsar got branch?
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:00 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
2,948 posts Joined: Jun 2007 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:01 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,010 posts Joined: May 2015 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:02 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
701 posts Joined: Jan 2011 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:02 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,010 posts Joined: May 2015 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:02 AM
|
![]()
Junior Member
38 posts Joined: Jul 2006 |
best place to chill for me while im in that area...
1st dating location with my wife back in 2014... |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:02 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
363 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
Korean but with French name.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:03 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,010 posts Joined: May 2015 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:04 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
2,948 posts Joined: Jun 2007 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:06 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Sep 2016 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:07 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Sep 2016 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:08 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,010 posts Joined: May 2015 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:10 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
169 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: Black Dragon River |
The Loaf 10x lagi sedap.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:10 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
440 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
QUOTE(benson92 @ May 25 2017, 10:48 AM) sure down la.. their one bread already cost u RM5, RM5 can eat 1 plate mixed rice for a lunch / dinner d, the RM5 bread after eat also feel nothing only.. last few years every one crazy of property, buy property, day-dreaming renting out property will make them rich, buy & rent property is just a Money Game like JJPTR only.. now all the property leaving empty no people wanna rent.. buyers still need to pay bank loan + maintenance fee, so where got money to buy RM5 bread to eat?? this is just a start, it will be a chain effect, coming 3 years more and more fancy restaurants, hipster restaurants will be closing down... |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:12 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,587 posts Joined: Apr 2011 |
the one opposite farenhai88?
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:12 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,010 posts Joined: May 2015 |
QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:10 AM) sure down la.. lets see their one bread already cost u RM5, RM5 can eat 1 plate mixed rice for a lunch / dinner d, the RM5 bread after eat also feel nothing only.. last few years every one crazy of property, buy property, day-dreaming renting out property will make them rich, buy & rent property is just a Money Game like JJPTR only.. now all the property leaving empty no people wanna rent.. buyers still need to pay bank loan + maintenance fee, so where got money to buy RM5 bread to eat?? this is just a start, it will be a chain effect, coming 3 years more and more fancy restaurants, hipster restaurants will be closing down... |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:12 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Sep 2016 |
QUOTE(benson92 @ May 25 2017, 11:08 AM) haiz so many women kena con by their products.they stamp a Korean actor on the box and then say its good for your health one bullshit about oxydixation, they just get sucked in to buy. that's why I hate K-pop, they get so many endorsements that they make the Korean products more expensive. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:13 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
494 posts Joined: Apr 2009 From: The Fifth Dimension |
tried once only, the bukit bintang branch... i would say, totally overrated and food so-so only... in a better economy situation, they probably could still survive...
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:14 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,093 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Internet |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:15 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
14,242 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: JAVABUS |
Obviously the shit hype is over
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:15 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,587 posts Joined: Apr 2011 |
QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:10 AM) sure down la.. no worries, few years down the road there will be more and more tongsan tourists coming in, they are big spenderstheir one bread already cost u RM5, RM5 can eat 1 plate mixed rice for a lunch / dinner d, the RM5 bread after eat also feel nothing only.. last few years every one crazy of property, buy property, day-dreaming renting out property will make them rich, buy & rent property is just a Money Game like JJPTR only.. now all the property leaving empty no people wanna rent.. buyers still need to pay bank loan + maintenance fee, so where got money to buy RM5 bread to eat?? this is just a start, it will be a chain effect, coming 3 years more and more fancy restaurants, hipster restaurants will be closing down... the first batch of beneficiaries of money games will soon open their own businesses and buy some properties, so in other way also its the butthurt peasants who will work for them msia is a crooked country, only crooked ppl will stay at the top of the pyramid got it? |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:16 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,093 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Internet |
QUOTE(vassilius @ May 25 2017, 11:13 AM) tried once only, the bukit bintang branch... i would say, totally overrated and food so-so only... in a better economy situation, they probably could still survive... i think has they able to maintain similar quality to the original one they wouldt have fared this bad... their coffee in malaysia branch are shit.. even vietnam branch can serve good coffee |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:16 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,010 posts Joined: May 2015 |
QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ May 25 2017, 11:12 AM) haiz so many women kena con by their products. +1. not to hate kpop but their marketing really they stamp a Korean actor on the box and then say its good for your health one bullshit about oxydixation, they just get sucked in to buy. that's why I hate K-pop, they get so many endorsements that they make the Korean products more expensive. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:16 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,410 posts Joined: Dec 2009 From: Everywhere |
Overrated bakery shop.
I went there once and I don't see any hype at all. They paid bloggers so much to promote their overrated shop |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:17 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,093 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Internet |
QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ May 25 2017, 11:15 AM) no worries, few years down the road there will be more and more tongsan tourists coming in, they are big spenders nah malaysia is crooked top to bottomthe first batch of beneficiaries of money games will soon open their own businesses and buy some properties, so in other way also its the butthurt peasants who will work for them msia is a crooked country, only crooked ppl will stay at the top of the pyramid got it? |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:18 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,093 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Internet |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:18 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
363 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
QUOTE(Flizzardo @ May 25 2017, 11:14 AM) tour le jours brand is from CJ which is used to be part of samsung I see. cj was head by samsung founder eldest son and daughter while samsung was taken over by the younger son I hope one day we have some Malaysia brands that can be well known overseas. Like Ipoh Chicken Rice in Seoul. Satay Haji Samsuri in Tokyo. Lotus in Taipeh. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:19 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,410 posts Joined: Dec 2009 From: Everywhere |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:19 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
919 posts Joined: Aug 2015 |
But tous just small fry in korea.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:21 AM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#40
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
8,275 posts Joined: May 2006 |
QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:10 AM) sure down la.. oh you'd be surprised, how much people will pay for ittheir one bread already cost u RM5, RM5 can eat 1 plate mixed rice for a lunch / dinner d, the RM5 bread after eat also feel nothing only.. last few years every one crazy of property, buy property, day-dreaming renting out property will make them rich, buy & rent property is just a Money Game like JJPTR only.. now all the property leaving empty no people wanna rent.. buyers still need to pay bank loan + maintenance fee, so where got money to buy RM5 bread to eat?? this is just a start, it will be a chain effect, coming 3 years more and more fancy restaurants, hipster restaurants will be closing down... |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:22 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,587 posts Joined: Apr 2011 |
QUOTE(joe_mamak @ May 25 2017, 11:18 AM) I see. closest we can see is paparich in australiaI hope one day we have some Malaysia brands that can be well known overseas. Like Ipoh Chicken Rice in Seoul. Satay Haji Samsuri in Tokyo. Lotus in Taipeh. secret recipe in some middle east countries marry brown in turkey |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:23 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,587 posts Joined: Apr 2011 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:23 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
2,948 posts Joined: Jun 2007 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:24 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
242 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:24 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,093 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Internet |
QUOTE(joe_mamak @ May 25 2017, 11:18 AM) I see. i notice that everytime a malaysian brand grow big enough in malaysia and as they begin expand oversea they would be collapsing within , start losing market share in malaysia and eventually many branches closing down likeI hope one day we have some Malaysia brands that can be well known overseas. Like Ipoh Chicken Rice in Seoul. Satay Haji Samsuri in Tokyo. Lotus in Taipeh. old town white coffee, secret recipe, paparich and anyway malaysian population isnt that big and worse our market further splitted out from our diverse culture. thats why local artists hard to make it big if they stay in malaysian market |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:26 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,410 posts Joined: Dec 2009 From: Everywhere |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:26 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,093 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Internet |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:27 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
385 posts Joined: Feb 2007 |
QUOTE(tahfeikei @ May 25 2017, 10:50 AM) big boss no money? Dah nak june niPROPERTY developer and asset manager Mammoth Empire Holdings Sdn Bhd has signed on the dotted line to sell its flagship Empire Shopping Gallery in Subang Jaya, Selangor, to Pelaburan Hartanah Bhd (PHB) for RM570 million cash. With the agreement, which was sealed late last week, MEH will be able to raise some much-needed funds and quash rumours of further delays in the completion of its behemoth Empire City Damansara project near Damansara Perdana, Selangor. When contacted, PHB group managing director Datuk Kamalul Arifin Othman confirms that the deal was concluded late last week. “We bought it for RM570 million,” he tells The Edge. It is learnt that MEH has been granted a call option to buy back the shopping mall on the fifth anniversary of the sale. It also has the right of first refusal to buy the mall should PHB decide to dispose of it within the five years. However, Kamalul declined to comment when asked to confirm if the terms of the agreement included MEH’s right to buy back the mall in five years’ time. He was also tight-lipped on the minimum price that MEH would need to repurchase Empire Shopping Gallery. Sources, nevertheless, say the price is RM670 million or the market value of the asset at the time, whichever is higher. This means PHB will be able to make at least RM100 million in profit over five years or RM20 million a year while it holds the property. It will also enjoy the net income derived from the mall. The Edge had previously reported that the mall’s net rental yield is around 6.5% to 7%. The Empire Shopping Gallery has a gross built-up area of 600,000 sq ft and net lettable area of 350,000 sq ft spread over five levels. A total of 216 tenants occupy 98% of the shopping centre, whose sale is expected to be completed in the next three months. “It is a win-win situation for both parties because MEH is able to unlock the value of the asset now and yet regain ownership at a later date while for PHB, the 6.5% net rental yield is above the prevailing rate for fixed deposits, plus the guaranteed buyback is at a higher price in the future,” a valuer tells The Edge when asked for his comments. Details of the deal are scanty. Still, its timing may raise eyebrows, considering that there is shopping mall glut at present and subdued consumer spending due to a sluggish economy. Market observers comment that as a fund that invests in real estate, PHB could have bargained for a more favourable deal. More so because MEH can choose to repurchase the mall after five years if it is still performing well — and the company has the financial muscle to do so — or not if it is not. Interestingly, the management of the mall remains in MEH’s hands. The Empire Shopping Gallery and the Empire Hotel catapulted MEH to fame in 2010, although the group had been operational since 2002. The group was founded by Datuk Sean Ng Yee Teck, who is the group managing director, and Datuk Danny Cheah, who is the group executive director. Sentimental reasons aside, it is understood that MEH opted for the call option because it sees further upside for the mall as it has been operational for only six years now and has yet to realise its full potential. An MEH spokesperson says with the deal, an earlier plan to raise funds through the issuance of bonds has been scrapped. In June last year, The Edge reported that MEH was ready to let go of the shopping mall should it receive a favourable and concrete offer. Subsequently, in August, The Edge reported that MEH was looking at raising funds via bonds and had engaged Hong Leong Investment Bank Bhd and credit rating company RAM Holdings Bhd for the exercise. The spokesperson adds that the bulk of the money from the sale will go towards the completion of Empire City Damansara while the remainder will be used as working capital. The 28-acre integrated development with an estimated gross development value of RM5 billion is located opposite the PJ Trade Centre in Mutiara Damansara. Incidentally, PHB had purchased from MEH an 18-storey office block with 319 parking bays, known as Block H, in Empire City Damansara for, according to sources, RM120 million. The spokesperson also says MEH plans to move into Block H on April 17 this year. “The CCC (certificate of completion and compliance) for the building is expected to be awarded in February. We will be moving from our current headquarters in Empire Subang to Empire City Damansara as we will have a much larger component to take care of. We will be taking up five levels in the building.” PHB is understood to be looking for tenants to fill the other floors. On the two million sq ft retail component of Empire City Damansara, whose opening has been delayed several times, the spokesperson says, “We are targeting a partial opening in August to coincide with the 29th SEA Games.” Acknowledging that a few tenants had dropped out due to the delay, he says there have also been requests from some tenants to postpone the opening. Even so, the Empire City Damansara mall has managed to secure 80% tenants. One of the three Marriott International hotels will be ready by year end, the spokesperson adds. He dismisses speculation that Empire City Damansara may not be ready to host the SEA Games’ ice-skating event this August. In fact, he says, the venue will be handed over in April or May this year for the participants to start their training. This is the only ice-skating rink with Olympic specifications in Malaysia. By the time the Games start, there will be no sign of the cranes, he adds. “All the physical and structural components will be completed. There will be no more construction activity when we open.” This article first appeared in The Edge Malaysia on Jan 30, 2017. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:27 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
440 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 25 2017, 11:21 AM) pay for what? the RM5 bread? definitely some people willing to pay RM5 but relative to ratio of malaysia population maybe just 0.0000000000001% of people if many people willing to pay RM5 then they wont close down d, even if wanna close down, there will be other investors see the opportunity and buy over the business.. now a day business not easy to do.. even big company also suffering.. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:28 AM
|
![]()
Junior Member
40 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:10 AM) sure down la.. their one bread already cost u RM5, RM5 can eat 1 plate mixed rice for a lunch / dinner d, the RM5 bread after eat also feel nothing only.. last few years every one crazy of property, buy property, day-dreaming renting out property will make them rich, buy & rent property is just a Money Game like JJPTR only.. now all the property leaving empty no people wanna rent.. buyers still need to pay bank loan + maintenance fee, so where got money to buy RM5 bread to eat?? this is just a start, it will be a chain effect, coming 3 years more and more fancy restaurants, hipster restaurants will be closing down... without people spending like that you where got house to rent? sleep under staircase? and who give you job if business bad? |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:28 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
242 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:30 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
50 posts Joined: Jan 2010 |
Everything is overpriced. Good riddance.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:31 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,093 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Internet |
QUOTE(SMB002 @ May 25 2017, 11:28 AM) are you in vietnam?i tried twice, was really excited when they opened in bangsar but was disappointed .. but i thought at that time maybe they just opened so give another try a year later but nope still bad lol not worth my money can spend other places more worth |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:33 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
242 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(Flizzardo @ May 25 2017, 11:31 AM) are you in vietnam? From all the hype on FB, I never wanted to visit them anyway.i tried twice, was really excited when they opened in bangsar but was disappointed .. but i thought at that time maybe they just opened so give another try a year later but nope still bad lol not worth my money can spend other places more worth That's why I didn't visit them here as well. There's better option like highland coffee or cong cafe or phuc long. I'm tempted to try starbucks too, never tried it here. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:34 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
58 posts Joined: Apr 2016 |
We aren't that level yet in majority.
RM38 oso complaint |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:35 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,587 posts Joined: Apr 2011 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:38 AM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#57
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
8,275 posts Joined: May 2006 |
QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ May 25 2017, 11:23 AM) there re many ppl willing to pay rm5 for a bread Loaf kinda a niche market con datuk so at this segment its pretty competitive even The Loaf also getting irrelevant these days, not expanding much the rest is con melbourne wannabes QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:27 AM) pay for what? the RM5 bread? owh no, more than thatdefinitely some people willing to pay RM5 but relative to ratio of malaysia population maybe just 0.0000000000001% of people if many people willing to pay RM5 then they wont close down d, even if wanna close down, there will be other investors see the opportunity and buy over the business.. now a day business not easy to do.. even big company also suffering.. its actually a very competitive scene, that shop has like 4-5 competitors in almost every location they have. its one of the biggest money earners these days, cook some ayamas sausage, baked beans and shit, charge 30 bucks |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:40 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
127 posts Joined: Oct 2011 |
QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 25 2017, 11:38 AM) Loaf kinda a niche market con datuk reminds me of antipodean.the rest is con melbourne wannabes owh no, more than that its actually a very competitive scene, that shop has like 4-5 competitors in almost every location they have. its one of the biggest money earners these days, cook some ayamas sausage, baked beans and shit, charge 30 bucks |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:41 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,703 posts Joined: Oct 2005 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:44 AM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#60
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
8,275 posts Joined: May 2006 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:48 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
15,856 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Zion |
but in jakarta it's everywhere and fluorishing wor
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:48 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
440 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 25 2017, 11:28 AM) without people spending like that you where got house to rent? sleep under staircase? and who give you job if business bad? the people spend RM5 buy bread ? or the people buy property and rent out? i have no bad perception to any of the 2 group of people above, i also hope economy to be stable, every one can afford Rm5 bread once a while. But TOO MUCH of people day dreaming thinking that buy property and rent out can use rental to cover loan installment and after 35 years get a free house. this is one of the root cause of property price hike, economy down, people can't afford expensive food once a while, shop restaurant close down, business doing bad start cutting headcounts.. it is a chain effect caused all people in a tough life.. not asking everyone not to buy property and rent out, but TOO MUCH of people day dreaming of this will bring big trouble.. end end public just drop in the legal Money Game created by property developers.. rich ppl getting rich, poor ppl getting poor.. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 11:51 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,583 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Clerking. Data Entry like a Mad Man |
Everyday i pass by in front of sg wang... Never even masuk once. Me too poorfag.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:08 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,093 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Internet |
QUOTE(SMB002 @ May 25 2017, 11:33 AM) From all the hype on FB, I never wanted to visit them anyway. aww but the last time i was in ho chi minh i saw TLJ every corner of the street in the cityThat's why I didn't visit them here as well. There's better option like highland coffee or cong cafe or phuc long. I'm tempted to try starbucks too, never tried it here. yea me too i cant get those ppl who go oversea and visit places like mcdonalds and starbucks lol highland coffee is it the same as nguyen coffee |
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:11 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
418 posts Joined: Aug 2010 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:12 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
418 posts Joined: Aug 2010 |
QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:48 AM) your "people spend like that" is refering to who?? You tok what? I bought RM16 sammich from Tous Le Jous!!!!the people spend RM5 buy bread ? or the people buy property and rent out? i have no bad perception to any of the 2 group of people above, i also hope economy to be stable, every one can afford Rm5 bread once a while. But TOO MUCH of people day dreaming thinking that buy property and rent out can use rental to cover loan installment and after 35 years get a free house. this is one of the root cause of property price hike, economy down, people can't afford expensive food once a while, shop restaurant close down, business doing bad start cutting headcounts.. it is a chain effect caused all people in a tough life.. not asking everyone not to buy property and rent out, but TOO MUCH of people day dreaming of this will bring big trouble.. end end public just drop in the legal Money Game created by property developers.. rich ppl getting rich, poor ppl getting poor.. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:12 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
242 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(Flizzardo @ May 25 2017, 12:08 PM) aww but the last time i was in ho chi minh i saw TLJ every corner of the street in the city Feel like highland is more localized, but the coffee is really kau.yea me too i cant get those ppl who go oversea and visit places like mcdonalds and starbucks lol highland coffee is it the same as nguyen coffee Actually I went Mcd for their nasi vavi. I kinda wonder how different their starbucks taste too. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:15 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
18 posts Joined: Aug 2016 |
Aik, so fast closed down
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:15 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,727 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Planet Earth |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:18 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Sep 2016 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:22 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Sep 2016 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:23 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#72
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,803 posts Joined: Oct 2007 |
QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ May 25 2017, 11:07 AM) Not say overpriced. Our RM is just so weak. Plus they selling with Korean market in mind. They are expecting Koreans who got shitload of money to buy it. Not for the average peanut earning Malaysian |
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:23 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,521 posts Joined: Oct 2004 From: Island where you get pearl |
It's just a normal bakery in Korea, just like Kings Bakery we have here. The why it's PREMIUM here is because it's a KOREAN brand thus malaysians it's a premium brand and all their flour, yeast, ingredients premium
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:26 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
418 posts Joined: Aug 2010 |
QUOTE(Cloudx @ May 25 2017, 12:23 PM) It's just a normal bakery in Korea, just like Kings Bakery we have here. The why it's PREMIUM here is because it's a KOREAN brand thus malaysians it's a premium brand and all their flour, yeast, ingredients premium Flour, yeast all imported from Korea! This post has been edited by SushiBurgerX: May 25 2017, 12:27 PM |
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:29 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#75
|
![]()
Junior Member
26 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kepong,KL |
is time for King's to make a comeback! bread and cake ftw!
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:30 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Sep 2016 |
QUOTE(kevin23 @ May 25 2017, 12:23 PM) Not say overpriced. Our RM is just so weak. Plus they selling with Korean market in mind. They are expecting Koreans who got shitload of money to buy it. Not for the average peanut earning Malaysian but why is Japan able to target low cost, but Korea doesn't want to do this? Look at Daiso, Panasonic and Aeon. I wonder if Samsung and LG still sell low margin electronic products. maybe Korea didn't want to bring their Lotte to here. But I am just curious. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:38 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
418 posts Joined: Aug 2010 |
QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ May 25 2017, 12:30 PM) but why is Japan able to target low cost, but Korea doesn't want to do this? Look at Daiso, Panasonic and Aeon. Daiso stuff probably made in China...LOLI wonder if Samsung and LG still sell low margin electronic products. maybe Korea didn't want to bring their Lotte to here. But I am just curious. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:38 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#78
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
123 posts Joined: Sep 2007 |
Never eat there before
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:38 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#79
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
123 posts Joined: Sep 2007 |
-
This post has been edited by everest: May 25 2017, 12:39 PM |
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:41 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Sep 2016 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:43 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,787 posts Joined: Nov 2008 |
bye TLJ, dont come bak pls
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:43 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
873 posts Joined: Dec 2009 |
Cherryx
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 12:55 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
410 posts Joined: Aug 2005 |
I miss the egg benedict
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 01:00 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,732 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Middle Earth, KL |
Mister Donuts also closing for good.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 01:02 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
47 posts Joined: Dec 2005 |
The shop upcat wei...tried the croissant...no butter taste at all...cut corners like this sure hailat la
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 01:05 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
658 posts Joined: May 2006 From: Melaka |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 01:07 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#87
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,578 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Johor-Singapore |
No wonder last weekend I went, their quality like crap. Almost everything out of stock.
Nice decor but hardly any patron. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 01:09 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,895 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Keep Walking ... Tomorrowland |
jibong their business damn good one , need to que summore.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 01:37 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
40 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:48 AM) your "people spend like that" is refering to who?? honestly there is no going back, rich people getting richer, poor people getting poorer.the people spend RM5 buy bread ? or the people buy property and rent out? i have no bad perception to any of the 2 group of people above, i also hope economy to be stable, every one can afford Rm5 bread once a while. But TOO MUCH of people day dreaming thinking that buy property and rent out can use rental to cover loan installment and after 35 years get a free house. this is one of the root cause of property price hike, economy down, people can't afford expensive food once a while, shop restaurant close down, business doing bad start cutting headcounts.. it is a chain effect caused all people in a tough life.. not asking everyone not to buy property and rent out, but TOO MUCH of people day dreaming of this will bring big trouble.. end end public just drop in the legal Money Game created by property developers.. rich ppl getting rich, poor ppl getting poor.. the gap between the rich and poor will only get worst cause nothing is going to stop it, not even the government. mainly because poor people day dream most of the time, while rich people stay greedy and always find ways to make more. if the government taxes rich people more and give more BR1M to the poor, it will make the poor lazier and rely more on the gov. when low income, get BR1M, when no income, blame gov and go protest. this is how you stay poor forever. so in the end it's mindset problem not government or corporate problem. every year also got poor people become rich, they dream, but not day dream, they find ways and action. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 02:02 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,803 posts Joined: Oct 2007 |
QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ May 25 2017, 12:30 PM) but why is Japan able to target low cost, but Korea doesn't want to do this? Look at Daiso, Panasonic and Aeon. U must be joking. Daiso is a Japanese brand. However,I wonder if Samsung and LG still sell low margin electronic products. maybe Korea didn't want to bring their Lotte to here. But I am just curious. Most if not all of their products are from China. The same goes for Panasonic and Aeon. Alot of their products are Made in China. Do differentiate between Made in Japan and Made in China. Huge difference in terms of price. Same goes for Made in Korea products |
|
|
May 25 2017, 02:13 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,587 posts Joined: Apr 2011 |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 25 2017, 01:37 PM) honestly there is no going back, rich people getting richer, poor people getting poorer. nahthe gap between the rich and poor will only get worst cause nothing is going to stop it, not even the government. mainly because poor people day dream most of the time, while rich people stay greedy and always find ways to make more. if the government taxes rich people more and give more BR1M to the poor, it will make the poor lazier and rely more on the gov. when low income, get BR1M, when no income, blame gov and go protest. this is how you stay poor forever. so in the end it's mindset problem not government or corporate problem. every year also got poor people become rich, they dream, but not day dream, they find ways and action. if u were born into hardcore poor family these days, chances are u ll end up poor for most of ur life this is true in China, HK, Korea, and other developed countries in the world, no more social mobility |
|
|
May 25 2017, 02:28 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,351 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Planet Earth |
MacD managed by yahudi can last so long. What's the secret?
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 02:30 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Sep 2016 |
QUOTE(kevin23 @ May 25 2017, 02:02 PM) U must be joking. Daiso is a Japanese brand. However, I am not joking. Made in China but sold by Japanese mart using low cost price margin. What's wrong with that? I am trying to say, Japanese is targeting the low cost market. This is what I like. Whether its China made Korea made or Japanese made.Most if not all of their products are from China. The same goes for Panasonic and Aeon. Alot of their products are Made in China. Do differentiate between Made in Japan and Made in China. Huge difference in terms of price. Same goes for Made in Korea products And most stuff are made in China anyway? Banana Republic is made in China if I not mistaken. Nike shirts made in Bangladesh if I not mistaken, so what? I am just saying, I so far see a lot of hype expensive Korean stuff. Can you name me some cheap low cost Korean products, whether made in china or where else? |
|
|
May 25 2017, 03:39 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
40 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ May 25 2017, 02:13 PM) nah yes this is the spirit, keep it up. mindset like this is the reason why the poor stays poor.if u were born into hardcore poor family these days, chances are u ll end up poor for most of ur life this is true in China, HK, Korea, and other developed countries in the world, no more social mobility |
|
|
May 25 2017, 03:47 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,587 posts Joined: Apr 2011 |
QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ May 25 2017, 02:30 PM) I am not joking. Made in China but sold by Japanese mart using low cost price margin. What's wrong with that? I am trying to say, Japanese is targeting the low cost market. This is what I like. Whether its China made Korea made or Japanese made. other than the typical electronics, there isn't really that many korean brands in malaysia yet to have a fair judgementAnd most stuff are made in China anyway? Banana Republic is made in China if I not mistaken. Nike shirts made in Bangladesh if I not mistaken, so what? I am just saying, I so far see a lot of hype expensive Korean stuff. Can you name me some cheap low cost Korean products, whether made in china or where else? there is this SPAO, a JV between korean and Parkson, the pricing is below Superdry at its best |
|
|
May 25 2017, 03:48 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,587 posts Joined: Apr 2011 |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 25 2017, 03:39 PM) sigh.. have u seen the "hardcore" poor in msia yet?rest assure most ppl u see and mix belongs to middle class, not even close to poverty, that includes those brats who rant in /k/ and FB, the real hardcore poor don't even have the privilege to basic internet access This post has been edited by PhakFuhZai: May 25 2017, 03:53 PM |
|
|
May 25 2017, 03:52 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
440 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 25 2017, 03:39 PM) i'm sure u are from rich family or at least mid-upper rich..if not tell me what can a poor family kids do to turn his fate become rich??????? study?? degree?? u know how much pay for fresh grad?? 2k-3k u know how many yearsss they need to work in order to climb to above 5k?? but even with 5k salary, condo price how much now?? 500k-800k 20 years later based on current inflation rate, condo price will exceed 1million.. but do u really think 20 years later fresh grad salary will become above 5k?? just look at the past 10 years, fresh grad salary stay stagnant 3k-4k.. ok la, maybe u say they struggle hard, workhard, work part time, work 3/4 jobs.. finally bought a condo. but look around, the condo they bought is just an old, dirty, aging, high density condo. so end end they are still living in "Modern poor" society, they are still the poor category in society. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 03:54 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
14,990 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
Like I told you guys, F&B is in a bubble right now, overpriced hipster cafes are going to suffer.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 03:57 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
87 posts Joined: May 2017 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:13 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
87 posts Joined: May 2017 |
QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ May 25 2017, 02:13 PM) nah If all they do is butthurt at starbucks vios kfc iphone TLJ, then they deserve it : wif u were born into hardcore poor family these days, chances are u ll end up poor for most of ur life this is true in China, HK, Korea, and other developed countries in the world, no more social mobility |
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:14 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
87 posts Joined: May 2017 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:18 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
181 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: Pengu world |
QUOTE By the time the Games start, there will be no sign of the cranes, he adds. “All the physical and structural components will be completed. There will be no more construction activity when we open.” No wonder the crane was dismantled despite the buildings have not finish yet. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:20 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
405 posts Joined: Mar 2013 |
![]() Why they close down? no more hipster in Malaysia? This post has been edited by lfw: May 25 2017, 04:20 PM |
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:23 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
2,841 posts Joined: Jun 2009 |
just went to Vietnam one, ntg much.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:30 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
962 posts Joined: May 2008 |
Been there and tried the bakery. Expensive and taste not good. Good that they kolo the business.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:33 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
455 posts Joined: Jun 2012 |
who are they? i thought some french money game or something
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:33 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
64 posts Joined: Jun 2016 |
Their cheesecake sedap n not as expensive.. Less than rm20 only
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:43 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Sep 2016 |
QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ May 25 2017, 03:47 PM) other than the typical electronics, there isn't really that many korean brands in malaysia yet to have a fair judgement Dunno about you, I find SPAO slightly on the high sidethere is this SPAO, a JV between korean and Parkson, the pricing is below Superdry at its best |
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:45 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
867 posts Joined: Feb 2017 |
expensive coffee, expensive bread, expensive rent.
No amoi canggih |
|
|
May 25 2017, 04:52 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,660 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Palace of sexology |
Viet & korea branch got pork. Only in kl no pork. Hahahaha
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 05:15 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,186 posts Joined: Nov 2004 |
according to their fb page
https://www.facebook.com/touslesjoursmy/pho...?type=3&theater close down due to bad economy? or just the food sux? |
|
|
May 25 2017, 05:33 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,692 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: Probation? |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 05:43 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Jul 2012 |
TLF failed to answer the most basic question out of any bakery in Malaysia:
Why should anyone buy overpriced Korean interpretations of French pastries when there are bakeries in Malaysia owned by French chefs that offer better and cheaper pastries? Hell, just a few blocks from TLJ Bangsar there's Yeast which offers an authentic French culinary and pastry experience by real French chefs. Who the hell wants to have French food served by Koreans when they can go for French food served by the French? |
|
|
May 25 2017, 05:46 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#114
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
686 posts Joined: Jan 2009 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 05:48 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,410 posts Joined: Dec 2009 From: Everywhere |
QUOTE(Taufiq91 @ May 25 2017, 05:43 PM) TLF failed to answer the most basic question out of any bakery in Malaysia: Man, it's all about the promotion and marketing Why should anyone buy overpriced Korean interpretations of French pastries when there are bakeries in Malaysia owned by French chefs that offer better and cheaper pastries? Hell, just a few blocks from TLJ Bangsar there's Yeast which offers an authentic French culinary and pastry experience by real French chefs. Who the hell wants to have French food served by Koreans when they can go for French food served by the French? Back to basic. If u like to visit food bloggers, u can see majority of them wiĺ promote this shop. They make it like this shop is a must place to visit, bla and bla. Now the hype is gone, and this is the result that they get. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 05:50 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,192 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kepong, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. |
Honestly not surprised at all.
Lavender > Tous |
|
|
May 25 2017, 05:51 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
27 posts Joined: Jul 2012 |
QUOTE(xpole @ May 25 2017, 05:48 PM) Man, it's all about the promotion and marketing But even with all the bloggers, they failed to answer the question:Back to basic. If u like to visit food bloggers, u can see majority of them wiĺ promote this shop. They make it like this shop is a must place to visit, bla and bla. Now the hype is gone, and this is the result that they get. Why should I eat at a Korean bakery that serves French food when I can go to an actual French restaurant nearby (Yeast) and have actual French food served by an actual French chef? |
|
|
May 25 2017, 06:08 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,197 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia |
Sad. I really liked their madeleines.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 06:20 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
948 posts Joined: Jan 2007 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 06:27 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
383 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
Which of their branches closed ? All? Even their fb and website cannot be accessed
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 06:34 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
14,990 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
QUOTE(joe_mamak @ May 25 2017, 11:18 AM) I see. What do you mean one day? This is Penang Malaysian Restaurant in BostonI hope one day we have some Malaysia brands that can be well known overseas. Like Ipoh Chicken Rice in Seoul. Satay Haji Samsuri in Tokyo. Lotus in Taipeh. http://www.penangmalaysian.com/ There are so many Malaysian restaurants in London alone, it's not even funny. https://www.google.com/search?q=malaysian+r...AE,lf:1,lf_ui:9 That's why I've been saying, don't listen to those people who say we suck and deserve to die.. they're not telling you the truth, they are only telling you what you want to hear because they want your vote. PS. The roti in Boston costs something like $5 This post has been edited by wodenus: May 25 2017, 06:35 PM |
|
|
May 25 2017, 06:45 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
363 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
QUOTE(wodenus @ May 25 2017, 06:34 PM) What do you mean one day? This is Penang Malaysian Restaurant in Boston Note the words well-known. http://www.penangmalaysian.com/ There are so many Malaysian restaurants in London alone, it's not even funny. https://www.google.com/search?q=malaysian+r...AE,lf:1,lf_ui:9 That's why I've been saying, don't listen to those people who say we suck and deserve to die.. they're not telling you the truth, they are only telling you what you want to hear because they want your vote. PS. The roti in Boston costs something like $5 |
|
|
May 25 2017, 07:04 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
14,990 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 07:05 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
40 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 03:52 PM) i'm sure u are from rich family or at least mid-upper rich.. sorry man, i talked like that cause i came from a poor family. they couldn't help me and terbalik they were a burden to me. 2 times gambling debt caused me to lose my savings twice, i bet you can't even handle this shit.if not tell me what can a poor family kids do to turn his fate become rich??????? study?? degree?? u know how much pay for fresh grad?? 2k-3k u know how many yearsss they need to work in order to climb to above 5k?? but even with 5k salary, condo price how much now?? 500k-800k 20 years later based on current inflation rate, condo price will exceed 1million.. but do u really think 20 years later fresh grad salary will become above 5k?? just look at the past 10 years, fresh grad salary stay stagnant 3k-4k.. ok la, maybe u say they struggle hard, workhard, work part time, work 3/4 jobs.. finally bought a condo. but look around, the condo they bought is just an old, dirty, aging, high density condo. so end end they are still living in "Modern poor" society, they are still the poor category in society. i'm a degree grad started with RM1.5k 8 years ago. now i have a 3XXk property rented out, just bought another 6XXk condo last year and moved in with my wife, D-segment car bought 2 years ago, 2 houses and 1 car loan all under my name, 5k income can afford?? why you only think about 5k? no money game, no toto, no mlm, no oversea, not O&G, not lawyer, not doctor just normal field, just hardwork, sacrifices, thick face, aggressive and greedy. i guess i'm lucky, lucky that i didn't think like you. if my mindset was like you i think now i'm still earning 3-4k only or maybe 14th floor already when my family gambling debt came on me. anyway i need to thank people like you, cause when i started working most people are like you, therefore i only got the opportunity to climb faster, if all also mature and hardworking i think i didn't have the chance to shine. |
|
|
May 25 2017, 07:13 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Aug 2009 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 07:13 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
14,990 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 07:17 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
4,053 posts Joined: Jun 2009 From: Kuching |
it's a shit excuse for a bakery anyway
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 07:17 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
363 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 07:19 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
268 posts Joined: May 2014 |
QUOTE(SereneAshley @ May 25 2017, 07:13 PM) SuperGroup plc is a British international branded clothing company, and owner of the Superdry labelhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperGroup |
|
|
May 25 2017, 07:33 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
14,990 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 07:37 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
95 posts Joined: Aug 2009 |
QUOTE(lorrydriverrocks @ May 25 2017, 07:19 PM) SuperGroup plc is a British international branded clothing company, and owner of the Superdry label Mindfcuked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperGroup But good branding on their part |
|
|
May 25 2017, 08:02 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
435 posts Joined: Oct 2010 |
good riddance
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 08:08 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,660 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Palace of sexology |
Lavender bakery not halal. I saw them selling alcohol cakes.
|
|
|
May 25 2017, 08:09 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
189 posts Joined: Aug 2015 From: Cherasboy |
tiba2 saja
very suspicious oh well too bad... was a good weekend hangout for my family |
|
|
May 25 2017, 08:12 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
189 posts Joined: Aug 2015 From: Cherasboy |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 25 2017, 07:05 PM) sorry man, i talked like that cause i came from a poor family. they couldn't help me and terbalik they were a burden to me. 2 times gambling debt caused me to lose my savings twice, i bet you can't even handle this shit. either that's big steaming heap of bullshit, or you're extremely luckyi'm a degree grad started with RM1.5k 8 years ago. now i have a 3XXk property rented out, just bought another 6XXk condo last year and moved in with my wife, D-segment car bought 2 years ago, 2 houses and 1 car loan all under my name, 5k income can afford?? why you only think about 5k? no money game, no toto, no mlm, no oversea, not O&G, not lawyer, not doctor just normal field, just hardwork, sacrifices, thick face, aggressive and greedy. i guess i'm lucky, lucky that i didn't think like you. if my mindset was like you i think now i'm still earning 3-4k only or maybe 14th floor already when my family gambling debt came on me. anyway i need to thank people like you, cause when i started working most people are like you, therefore i only got the opportunity to climb faster, if all also mature and hardworking i think i didn't have the chance to shine. if the latter, pray your luck continue, cause you will need it to continue servicing them loans |
|
|
May 25 2017, 10:20 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
363 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
|
|
|
May 26 2017, 01:30 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,192 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kepong, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. |
|
|
|
May 26 2017, 01:41 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,968 posts Joined: Sep 2012 |
pfft, once u tried those in Korea one, can't even compete here. So many friggin choice in Korea's tour le jours.
|
|
|
May 26 2017, 02:01 AM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#139
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
252 posts Joined: Jul 2008 |
So who gonna replace the branch in w hotel at tthat BB junction?
Thsts pretty strategic but still losing money? Crazy |
|
|
May 26 2017, 02:07 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,678 posts Joined: Mar 2016 |
Mammoth E is a conman developer lah. Now they're in deep shiet.
|
|
|
May 26 2017, 09:45 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,010 posts Joined: May 2015 |
QUOTE(lorrydriverrocks @ May 25 2017, 07:19 PM) SuperGroup plc is a British international branded clothing company, and owner of the Superdry label no wonder i din find any superdry store at tokyo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperGroup |
|
|
May 26 2017, 09:48 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
593 posts Joined: Dec 2009 From: Malaysia |
never been lol.
share some pix to judge pls |
|
|
May 26 2017, 09:55 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,232 posts Joined: Dec 2005 |
funny thing was the day that i wanted to buy their bakery is the day they close shop. yesterday drove early to their place in bangsar. shop has no light and got one paper pasted on the door so i assumed it was closed temporarily. later check fb saw their post said they're closing down for good.
|
|
|
May 26 2017, 09:56 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,155 posts Joined: Jul 2012 From: Today, 00:01 AM |
whats that?
never enter once pun same like tealive after tukar nama and all never tried it even once till now |
|
|
May 26 2017, 10:01 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
962 posts Joined: May 2008 |
The owner Mammoth Empire no enough funds to develop their mega project Empire City at Damansara, project got delayed. So they decided to sacrifice this bakery, closed it down for good. They even sold their shopping mall Empire Subang to another company to fund their damansara project.
|
|
|
May 26 2017, 10:04 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,123 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
its ok .... i go berrys
|
|
|
May 26 2017, 11:18 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
165 posts Joined: Dec 2013 |
x penah makan so x kesah
|
|
|
May 26 2017, 11:30 AM
|
![]()
Junior Member
40 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(KLboy92 @ May 25 2017, 08:12 PM) either that's big steaming heap of bullshit, or you're extremely lucky lol i never depend on luck. screw luck. if i was lucky i didn't have to go through so much pain.if the latter, pray your luck continue, cause you will need it to continue servicing them loans luck is for pussies like you, who surrenders to life. continue to be poor until you die. stupid people become loan/debt slaves, clever people use loan/debt to make money. you think all big business man started with a lot of cash in their pockets? anyway i don't think you'll understand how people do business and how people start from zero, no point telling you. This post has been edited by mw1980: May 26 2017, 11:30 AM |
|
|
May 26 2017, 12:26 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
189 posts Joined: Aug 2015 From: Cherasboy |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 26 2017, 11:30 AM) lol i never depend on luck. screw luck. if i was lucky i didn't have to go through so much pain. Mmluck is for pussies like you, who surrenders to life. continue to be poor until you die. stupid people become loan/debt slaves, clever people use loan/debt to make money. you think all big business man started with a lot of cash in their pockets? anyway i don't think you'll understand how people do business and how people start from zero, no point telling you. Typical nouveau riche response |
|
|
May 26 2017, 12:36 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
98 posts Joined: Jan 2017 From: Earth? |
|
|
|
May 26 2017, 12:54 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
40 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(KLboy92 @ May 26 2017, 12:26 PM) Haha. You would be surprised by the number of self made millionaires in Malaysia especially in SMEs. I see a lot of 30+ years old with >5 companies and millions of cash/assets. Don't always think that join big company only got opportunities.Instead of blaming rich people (Like I did during school), go and learn how they become rich (Not those family rich one). Maybe you need to change your circle of friends, your current one won't get you anywhere. This is Malaysia, plenty of opportunities, it's all about choices and sacrifices. Don't be so stubborn. Or else there will be people around you like me climb over you. |
|
|
May 26 2017, 01:28 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
189 posts Joined: Aug 2015 From: Cherasboy |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 26 2017, 12:54 PM) Haha. You would be surprised by the number of self made millionaires in Malaysia especially in SMEs. I see a lot of 30+ years old with >5 companies and millions of cash/assets. Don't always think that join big company only got opportunities. 1 would think that a person of such amazing business acumen would have learned not to simply shoot his mouth, especially over the internet.Instead of blaming rich people (Like I did during school), go and learn how they become rich (Not those family rich one). Maybe you need to change your circle of friends, your current one won't get you anywhere. This is Malaysia, plenty of opportunities, it's all about choices and sacrifices. Don't be so stubborn. Or else there will be people around you like me climb over you. So far I'm afraid you've shown me nothing more than typical salesman talk |
|
|
May 26 2017, 01:33 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
5,363 posts Joined: Apr 2005 From: กรุงเทพมหานคร BKK |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 26 2017, 12:54 PM) Haha. You would be surprised by the number of self made millionaires in Malaysia especially in SMEs. I see a lot of 30+ years old with >5 companies and millions of cash/assets. Don't always think that join big company only got opportunities. friend, one day i hope you appreciate being humble .. as have many good businessmen before you. we all hustle, but the best people hustle,cry and laugh in silence.Instead of blaming rich people (Like I did during school), go and learn how they become rich (Not those family rich one). Maybe you need to change your circle of friends, your current one won't get you anywhere. This is Malaysia, plenty of opportunities, it's all about choices and sacrifices. Don't be so stubborn. Or else there will be people around you like me climb over you. |
|
|
May 26 2017, 02:06 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
593 posts Joined: Dec 2009 From: Malaysia |
|
|
|
May 26 2017, 04:44 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
232 posts Joined: Dec 2015 |
QUOTE(xtylish @ May 26 2017, 02:06 PM) Actually all roti in all roti shop sekarang very mahal...even itu breadtalk and breadshop also not cheap don't say tous le jours or lavender. Semua sama sama mahal. That said, I actually really like the garlic baguette and walnut cheese from tous le jours. Very nice. |
|
|
May 26 2017, 04:59 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
954 posts Joined: Dec 2006 |
Used it to frequent it in Korea. Never had it here. Too bad it's gone. Would've liked to have options.
This post has been edited by thesoothsayer: May 26 2017, 04:59 PM |
|
|
May 26 2017, 05:02 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,093 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Internet |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 26 2017, 11:30 AM) lol i never depend on luck. screw luck. if i was lucky i didn't have to go through so much pain. no point arguing luck is for pussies like you, who surrenders to life. continue to be poor until you die. stupid people become loan/debt slaves, clever people use loan/debt to make money. you think all big business man started with a lot of cash in their pockets? anyway i don't think you'll understand how people do business and how people start from zero, no point telling you. most people just cant see it lol but everything u said is on point , cant quote the other comments but i agree with what u have said so far anyway cant blame them most people do not have your grit and their understanding are highly based on their own life experience on how they handle problems or seize opportunities which is based on their own character n capabilities This post has been edited by Flizzardo: May 26 2017, 05:10 PM |
|
|
May 26 2017, 05:15 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
440 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 25 2017, 07:05 PM) sorry man, i talked like that cause i came from a poor family. they couldn't help me and terbalik they were a burden to me. 2 times gambling debt caused me to lose my savings twice, i bet you can't even handle this shit. based on your description, i'm a degree grad started with RM1.5k 8 years ago. now i have a 3XXk property rented out, just bought another 6XXk condo last year and moved in with my wife, D-segment car bought 2 years ago, 2 houses and 1 car loan all under my name, 5k income can afford?? why you only think about 5k? no money game, no toto, no mlm, no oversea, not O&G, not lawyer, not doctor just normal field, just hardwork, sacrifices, thick face, aggressive and greedy. i guess i'm lucky, lucky that i didn't think like you. if my mindset was like you i think now i'm still earning 3-4k only or maybe 14th floor already when my family gambling debt came on me. anyway i need to thank people like you, cause when i started working most people are like you, therefore i only got the opportunity to climb faster, if all also mature and hardworking i think i didn't have the chance to shine. im sure your work some kind of like salesman, or bodek people kind of job, wiping people shoe.. to drive D segment car stay 600k condo by scarifying Maruah.. i better just continue be poor, that make me more happy than being the rich-man's dog.. |
|
|
May 26 2017, 05:21 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
127 posts Joined: Oct 2011 |
QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 26 2017, 12:54 PM) Haha. You would be surprised by the number of self made millionaires in Malaysia especially in SMEs. I see a lot of 30+ years old with >5 companies and millions of cash/assets. Don't always think that join big company only got opportunities. Disgustingly true.Instead of blaming rich people (Like I did during school), go and learn how they become rich (Not those family rich one). Maybe you need to change your circle of friends, your current one won't get you anywhere. This is Malaysia, plenty of opportunities, it's all about choices and sacrifices. Don't be so stubborn. Or else there will be people around you like me climb over you. |
|
|
May 26 2017, 06:37 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
40 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 26 2017, 05:15 PM) based on your description, lol dog? now you not your current boss's dog? when you are married you not your wife's dog? when your client scold you don't you look like a dog? when you are poor and you need to borrow money from your relatives/ friends don't you beg like a dog?im sure your work some kind of like salesman, or bodek people kind of job, wiping people shoe.. to drive D segment car stay 600k condo by scarifying Maruah.. i better just continue be poor, that make me more happy than being the rich-man's dog.. poor kuli got maruah? joke of the year. the so called 'maruah' worth nothing & nobody cares. when you are successful then only you get back all the 'maruah'. sacrifice maruah? you think we really need to hisap batang to earn money ke? cheap brain = cheap thoughts. imagine 1 day when you can't even afford your children's necessities, by that time let me see how you pay with your 'maruah', DOG |
|
|
May 26 2017, 06:47 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
40 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(Flizzardo @ May 26 2017, 05:02 PM) no point arguing haha i know most people can't see it, i just come here to fire shots & have fun. who knows some of the minorities understand it and change their lives? that's the greatest thing we can do for others.most people just cant see it lol but everything u said is on point , cant quote the other comments but i agree with what u have said so far anyway cant blame them most people do not have your grit and their understanding are highly based on their own life experience on how they handle problems or seize opportunities which is based on their own character n capabilities i'm not the one who blame first. they blame the most, blame the gov, blame the rich, blame the god, blame the world and etc. actually i don't care about their understanding, i'm grateful that this world is full of people like this if not it will be harder for us to build up from nothing. imagine a world full of matured, hardworking and clever people, i think i can't even get a job as a janitor. |
|
|
May 26 2017, 07:07 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#162
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
385 posts Joined: Feb 2007 |
QUOTE(lfw @ May 25 2017, 04:20 PM) Hipster don't go to tlj And to that person who said someone else got lucky etc. You'd be surprised that hardwork does pay. If u already have a job but it's sucks, maybe try selling insurance on the side. Yes. Not easy. Starting Duit dapat Sikit. But hey, u can try seeing one person a day after work. Just one. Then slow build from there. |
|
|
Jun 21 2017, 03:57 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
168 posts Joined: Nov 2004 |
|
|
|
Sep 18 2017, 07:14 AM
|
![]()
Junior Member
44 posts Joined: Nov 2011 |
QUOTE(vassilius @ May 25 2017, 11:13 AM) tried once only, the bukit bintang branch... i would say, totally overrated and food so-so only... in a better economy situation, they probably could still survive... I should mention that they used to provide breakfast at the WOLO hotel in Bukit Bintang. That was the only reason to stay at Wolo. You would get all you can eat buns and pastries. Definitely worth the price of breakfast. I think not many people knew that. |
|
|
Sep 18 2017, 07:30 AM
|
![]()
Junior Member
16 posts Joined: Sep 2009 |
|
| Bump Topic Add ReplyOptions New Topic |
| Change to: | 0.0550sec
0.72
6 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 15th December 2025 - 06:11 PM |