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post May 25 2017, 10:48 AM, updated 9y ago

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PROPERTY developer and asset manager Mammoth Empire Holdings Sdn Bhd has signed on the dotted line to sell its flagship Empire Shopping Gallery in Subang Jaya, Selangor, to Pelaburan Hartanah Bhd (PHB) for RM570 million cash.

With the agreement, which was sealed late last week, MEH will be able to raise some much-needed funds and quash rumours of further delays in the completion of its behemoth Empire City Damansara project near Damansara Perdana, Selangor.

When contacted, PHB group managing director Datuk Kamalul Arifin Othman confirms that the deal was concluded late last week. “We bought it for RM570 million,” he tells The Edge.

It is learnt that MEH has been granted a call option to buy back the shopping mall on the fifth anniversary of the sale. It also has the right of first refusal to buy the mall should PHB decide to dispose of it within the five years.

However, Kamalul declined to comment when asked to confirm if the terms of the agreement included MEH’s right to buy back the mall in five years’ time. He was also tight-lipped on the minimum price that MEH would need to repurchase Empire Shopping Gallery.

Sources, nevertheless, say the price is RM670 million or the market value of the asset at the time, whichever is higher.

This means PHB will be able to make at least RM100 million in profit over five years or RM20 million a year while it holds the property. It will also enjoy the net income derived from the mall. The Edge had previously reported that the mall’s net rental yield is around 6.5% to 7%.

The Empire Shopping Gallery has a gross built-up area of 600,000 sq ft and net lettable area of 350,000 sq ft spread over five levels. A total of 216 tenants occupy 98% of the shopping centre, whose sale is expected to be completed in the next three months.

“It is a win-win situation for both parties because MEH is able to unlock the value of the asset now and yet regain ownership at a later date while for PHB, the 6.5% net rental yield is above the prevailing rate for fixed deposits, plus the guaranteed buyback is at a higher price in the future,” a valuer tells The Edge when asked for his comments.

Details of the deal are scanty. Still, its timing may raise eyebrows, considering that there is shopping mall glut at present and subdued consumer spending due to a sluggish economy. Market observers comment that as a fund that invests in real estate, PHB could have bargained for a more favourable deal. More so because MEH can choose to repurchase the mall after five years if it is still performing well — and the company has the financial muscle to do so — or not if it is not.

Interestingly, the management of the mall remains in MEH’s hands.

The Empire Shopping Gallery and the Empire Hotel catapulted MEH to fame in 2010, although the group had been operational since 2002.

The group was founded by Datuk Sean Ng Yee Teck, who is the group managing director, and Datuk Danny Cheah, who is the group executive director. Sentimental reasons aside, it is understood that MEH opted for the call option because it sees further upside for the mall as it has been operational for only six years now and has yet to realise its full potential.

An MEH spokesperson says with the deal, an earlier plan to raise funds through the issuance of bonds has been scrapped. In June last year, The Edge reported that MEH was ready to let go of the shopping mall should it receive a favourable and concrete offer. Subsequently, in August, The Edge reported that MEH was looking at raising funds via bonds and had engaged Hong Leong Investment Bank Bhd and credit rating company RAM Holdings Bhd for the exercise.

The spokesperson adds that the bulk of the money from the sale will go towards the completion of Empire City Damansara while the remainder will be used as working capital. The 28-acre integrated development with an estimated gross development value of RM5 billion is located opposite the PJ Trade Centre in Mutiara Damansara.

Incidentally, PHB had purchased from MEH an 18-storey office block with 319 parking bays, known as Block H, in Empire City Damansara for, according to sources, RM120 million.

The spokesperson also says MEH plans to move into Block H on April 17 this year. “The CCC (certificate of completion and compliance) for the building is expected to be awarded in February. We will be moving from our current headquarters in Empire Subang to Empire City Damansara as we will have a much larger component to take care of. We will be taking up five levels in the building.”

PHB is understood to be looking for tenants to fill the other floors.

On the two million sq ft retail component of Empire City Damansara, whose opening has been delayed several times, the spokesperson says, “We are targeting a partial opening in August to coincide with the 29th SEA Games.” Acknowledging that a few tenants had dropped out due to the delay, he says there have also been requests from some tenants to postpone the opening. Even so, the Empire City Damansara mall has managed to secure 80% tenants. One of the three Marriott International hotels will be ready by year end, the spokesperson adds.

He dismisses speculation that Empire City Damansara may not be ready to host the SEA Games’ ice-skating event this August. In fact, he says, the venue will be handed over in April or May this year for the participants to start their training. This is the only ice-skating rink with Olympic specifications in Malaysia.

By the time the Games start, there will be no sign of the cranes, he adds. “All the physical and structural components will be completed. There will be no more construction activity when we open.”

This article first appeared in The Edge Malaysia on Jan 30, 2017.

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post May 25 2017, 10:51 AM

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post May 25 2017, 10:51 AM

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overpriced bread
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post May 25 2017, 10:52 AM

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but their biz quite good, esp the Sungei Wang area.
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post May 25 2017, 10:52 AM

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so sad, tried in vietnam and korea

better than malaysia's ... their coffee in malaysia taste so bad
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post May 25 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ May 25 2017, 10:50 AM)
lol not even 3years right?
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i think so

QUOTE(advocado @ May 25 2017, 10:52 AM)
but their biz quite good, esp the Sungei Wang area.
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ May 25 2017, 10:52 AM)
so sad, tried in vietnam and korea

better than malaysia's ... their coffee in malaysia taste so bad
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agree, korea i tried before, not bad

QUOTE(SummerSkyLuxe @ May 25 2017, 10:53 AM)
their pastries and drinks is just average for the classiness they exude

although they had great location and shop interior, when you step in there's no aircon in certain spots and they didn't maintain it well
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post May 25 2017, 10:57 AM

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kolos je... masih banyak brand lain lagi...
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post May 25 2017, 10:58 AM

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should be $

rumours been running round since the stalling of the mega project 2+ years ago
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i think so
yes but overpriced still got ppl go  rolleyes.gif
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Loaf & Lavender not overpriced?
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post May 25 2017, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ May 25 2017, 10:58 AM)
should be $

rumours been running round since the stalling of the mega project 2+ years ago
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whole malaysia branch closed or only empire shopping gallery?
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best place to chill for me while im in that area...

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A lot of shops kolos.

Recently Korean chicken Pelicano also close.

Sign of bad times?
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Korean stuff are good but overpriced.

Like their Kuvings juicer selling at RM2.7k.

just ridiculous.
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Korean stuff are good but overpriced.

Like their Kuvings juicer selling at RM2.7k.

just ridiculous.
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honestly those juicer are overrated
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sure down la..
their one bread already cost u RM5,
RM5 can eat 1 plate mixed rice for a lunch / dinner d,
the RM5 bread after eat also feel nothing only..

last few years every one crazy of property, buy property, day-dreaming renting out property will make them rich,
buy & rent property is just a Money Game like JJPTR only..
now all the property leaving empty no people wanna rent..
buyers still need to pay bank loan + maintenance fee,
so where got money to buy RM5 bread to eat??

this is just a start, it will be a chain effect,
coming 3 years more and more fancy restaurants, hipster restaurants will be closing down...


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the one opposite farenhai88?
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sure down la..
their one bread already cost u RM5,
RM5 can eat 1 plate mixed rice for a lunch / dinner d,
the RM5 bread after eat also feel nothing only..

last few years every one crazy of property, buy property, day-dreaming renting out property will make them rich,
buy & rent property is just a Money Game like JJPTR only..
now all the property leaving empty no people wanna rent..
buyers still need to pay bank loan + maintenance fee,
so where got money to buy RM5 bread to eat??

this is just a start, it will be a chain effect,
coming 3 years more and more fancy restaurants, hipster restaurants will be closing down...
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honestly those juicer are overrated
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haiz so many women kena con by their products.

they stamp a Korean actor on the box and then say its good for your health one bullshit about oxydixation, they just get sucked in to buy.

that's why I hate K-pop, they get so many endorsements that they make the Korean products more expensive.
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tried once only, the bukit bintang branch... i would say, totally overrated and food so-so only... in a better economy situation, they probably could still survive...
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tour le jours brand is from CJ which is used to be part of samsung

cj was head by samsung founder eldest son and daughter while samsung was taken over by the younger son


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sure down la..
their one bread already cost u RM5,
RM5 can eat 1 plate mixed rice for a lunch / dinner d,
the RM5 bread after eat also feel nothing only..

last few years every one crazy of property, buy property, day-dreaming renting out property will make them rich,
buy & rent property is just a Money Game like JJPTR only..
now all the property leaving empty no people wanna rent..
buyers still need to pay bank loan + maintenance fee,
so where got money to buy RM5 bread to eat??

this is just a start, it will be a chain effect,
coming 3 years more and more fancy restaurants, hipster restaurants will be closing down...
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no worries, few years down the road there will be more and more tongsan tourists coming in, they are big spenders

the first batch of beneficiaries of money games will soon open their own businesses and buy some properties, so in other way also its the butthurt peasants who will work for them

msia is a crooked country, only crooked ppl will stay at the top of the pyramid

got it?

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QUOTE(vassilius @ May 25 2017, 11:13 AM)
tried once only, the bukit bintang branch... i would say, totally overrated and food so-so only... in a better economy situation, they probably could still survive...
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i think has they able to maintain similar quality to the original one they wouldt have fared this bad... their coffee in malaysia branch are shit.. even vietnam branch can serve good coffee
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haiz so many women kena con by their products.

they stamp a Korean actor on the box and then say its good for your health one bullshit about oxydixation, they just get sucked in to buy.

that's why I hate K-pop, they get so many endorsements that they make the Korean products more expensive.
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Overrated bakery shop.

I went there once and I don't see any hype at all.
They paid bloggers so much to promote their overrated shop
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no worries, few years down the road there will be more and more tongsan tourists coming in, they are big spenders

the first batch of beneficiaries of money games will soon open their own businesses and buy some properties, so in other way also its the butthurt peasants who will work for them

msia is a crooked country, only crooked ppl will stay at the top of the pyramid

got it?

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nah malaysia is crooked top to bottom
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Overrated bakery shop.

I went there once and I don't see any hype at all.
They paid bloggers so much to promote their overrated shop
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have u tried the one in vietnam or korea? they are goos actually, i think malaysia one no quality
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tour le jours brand is from CJ which is used to be part of samsung

cj was head by samsung founder eldest son and daughter while samsung was taken over by the younger son
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I see.

I hope one day we have some Malaysia brands that can be well known overseas.

Like Ipoh Chicken Rice in Seoul.

Satay Haji Samsuri in Tokyo.

Lotus in Taipeh.

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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ May 25 2017, 11:06 AM)
A lot of shops kolos.

Recently Korean chicken Pelicano also close.

Sign of bad times?
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It's not sign of bad times.
It means that they depends so much on overhype marketing while their product is trash.

Once the hype is gone, the shop will be gone.
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QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:10 AM)
sure down la..
their one bread already cost u RM5,
RM5 can eat 1 plate mixed rice for a lunch / dinner d,
the RM5 bread after eat also feel nothing only..

last few years every one crazy of property, buy property, day-dreaming renting out property will make them rich,
buy & rent property is just a Money Game like JJPTR only..
now all the property leaving empty no people wanna rent..
buyers still need to pay bank loan + maintenance fee,
so where got money to buy RM5 bread to eat??

this is just a start, it will be a chain effect,
coming 3 years more and more fancy restaurants, hipster restaurants will be closing down...
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oh you'd be surprised, how much people will pay for it
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I see. 

I hope one day we have some Malaysia brands that can be well known overseas. 

Like Ipoh Chicken Rice in Seoul. 

Satay Haji Samsuri in Tokyo. 

Lotus in Taipeh. 

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closest we can see is paparich in australia
secret recipe in some middle east countries
marry brown in turkey


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oh you'd be surprised, how much people will pay for it
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there re many ppl willing to pay rm5 for a bread
so at this segment its pretty competitive
even The Loaf also getting irrelevant these days, not expanding much
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closest we can see is paparich in australia
secret recipe in some middle east countries
marry brown in turkey
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Marrybrown & Parkson getting big in China.

Also Jimmy Choo though you can eat them.

but hey at least got Maggi & Milo. whistling.gif
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i think has they able to maintain similar quality to the original one they wouldt have fared this bad... their coffee in malaysia branch are shit.. even vietnam branch can serve good coffee
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Is their bread in Vietnam as good as Korea?
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ May 25 2017, 11:18 AM)
I see. 

I hope one day we have some Malaysia brands that can be well known overseas. 

Like Ipoh Chicken Rice in Seoul. 

Satay Haji Samsuri in Tokyo. 

Lotus in Taipeh. 

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i notice that everytime a malaysian brand grow big enough in malaysia and as they begin expand oversea they would be collapsing within , start losing market share in malaysia and eventually many branches closing down like

old town white coffee, secret recipe, paparich

and anyway malaysian population isnt that big and worse our market further splitted out from our diverse culture. thats why local artists hard to make it big if they stay in malaysian market
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have u tried the one in vietnam or korea? they are goos actually, i think malaysia one no quality
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Never went there.
All I remember is a place where they sell overpriced pastries and people willing to pay for it.
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Is their bread in Vietnam as good as Korea?
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yup , even their coffee so good. malaysia one coffee so expensive but taste so bad and bread so so
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PROPERTY developer and asset manager Mammoth Empire Holdings Sdn Bhd has signed on the dotted line to sell its flagship Empire Shopping Gallery in Subang Jaya, Selangor, to Pelaburan Hartanah Bhd (PHB) for RM570 million cash.

With the agreement, which was sealed late last week, MEH will be able to raise some much-needed funds and quash rumours of further delays in the completion of its behemoth Empire City Damansara project near Damansara Perdana, Selangor.

When contacted, PHB group managing director Datuk Kamalul Arifin Othman confirms that the deal was concluded late last week. “We bought it for RM570 million,” he tells The Edge.

It is learnt that MEH has been granted a call option to buy back the shopping mall on the fifth anniversary of the sale. It also has the right of first refusal to buy the mall should PHB decide to dispose of it within the five years.

However, Kamalul declined to comment when asked to confirm if the terms of the agreement included MEH’s right to buy back the mall in five years’ time. He was also tight-lipped on the minimum price that MEH would need to repurchase Empire Shopping Gallery.

Sources, nevertheless, say the price is RM670 million or the market value of the asset at the time, whichever is higher.

This means PHB will be able to make at least RM100 million in profit over five years or RM20 million a year while it holds the property. It will also enjoy the net income derived from the mall. The Edge had previously reported that the mall’s net rental yield is around 6.5% to 7%.

The Empire Shopping Gallery has a gross built-up area of 600,000 sq ft and net lettable area of 350,000 sq ft spread over five levels. A total of 216 tenants occupy 98% of the shopping centre, whose sale is expected to be completed in the next three months.

“It is a win-win situation for both parties because MEH is able to unlock the value of the asset now and yet regain ownership at a later date while for PHB, the 6.5% net rental yield is above the prevailing rate for fixed deposits, plus the guaranteed buyback is at a higher price in the future,” a valuer tells The Edge when asked for his comments.

Details of the deal are scanty. Still, its timing may raise eyebrows, considering that there is shopping mall glut at present and subdued consumer spending due to a sluggish economy. Market observers comment that as a fund that invests in real estate, PHB could have bargained for a more favourable deal. More so because MEH can choose to repurchase the mall after five years if it is still performing well — and the company has the financial muscle to do so — or not if it is not.

Interestingly, the management of the mall remains in MEH’s hands.

The Empire Shopping Gallery and the Empire Hotel catapulted MEH to fame in 2010, although the group had been operational since 2002.

The group was founded by Datuk Sean Ng Yee Teck, who is the group managing director, and Datuk Danny Cheah, who is the group executive director. Sentimental reasons aside, it is understood that MEH opted for the call option because it sees further upside for the mall as it has been operational for only six years now and has yet to realise its full potential.

An MEH spokesperson says with the deal, an earlier plan to raise funds through the issuance of bonds has been scrapped. In June last year, The Edge reported that MEH was ready to let go of the shopping mall should it receive a favourable and concrete offer. Subsequently, in August, The Edge reported that MEH was looking at raising funds via bonds and had engaged Hong Leong Investment Bank Bhd and credit rating company RAM Holdings Bhd for the exercise.

The spokesperson adds that the bulk of the money from the sale will go towards the completion of Empire City Damansara while the remainder will be used as working capital. The 28-acre integrated development with an estimated gross development value of RM5 billion is located opposite the PJ Trade Centre in Mutiara Damansara.

Incidentally, PHB had purchased from MEH an 18-storey office block with 319 parking bays, known as Block H, in Empire City Damansara for, according to sources, RM120 million.

The spokesperson also says MEH plans to move into Block H on April 17 this year. “The CCC (certificate of completion and compliance) for the building is expected to be awarded in February. We will be moving from our current headquarters in Empire Subang to Empire City Damansara as we will have a much larger component to take care of. We will be taking up five levels in the building.”

PHB is understood to be looking for tenants to fill the other floors.

On the two million sq ft retail component of Empire City Damansara, whose opening has been delayed several times, the spokesperson says, “We are targeting a partial opening in August to coincide with the 29th SEA Games.” Acknowledging that a few tenants had dropped out due to the delay, he says there have also been requests from some tenants to postpone the opening. Even so, the Empire City Damansara mall has managed to secure 80% tenants. One of the three Marriott International hotels will be ready by year end, the spokesperson adds.

He dismisses speculation that Empire City Damansara may not be ready to host the SEA Games’ ice-skating event this August. In fact, he says, the venue will be handed over in April or May this year for the participants to start their training. This is the only ice-skating rink with Olympic specifications in Malaysia.

By the time the Games start, there will be no sign of the cranes, he adds. “All the physical and structural components will be completed. There will be no more construction activity when we open.”

This article first appeared in The Edge Malaysia on Jan 30, 2017.
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oh you'd be surprised, how much people will pay for it
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pay for what? the RM5 bread?

definitely some people willing to pay RM5 but relative to ratio of malaysia population maybe just 0.0000000000001% of people
if many people willing to pay RM5 then they wont close down d,
even if wanna close down, there will be other investors see the opportunity and buy over the business..

now a day business not easy to do..
even big company also suffering..


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QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:10 AM)
sure down la..
their one bread already cost u RM5,
RM5 can eat 1 plate mixed rice for a lunch / dinner d,
the RM5 bread after eat also feel nothing only..

last few years every one crazy of property, buy property, day-dreaming renting out property will make them rich,
buy & rent property is just a Money Game like JJPTR only..
now all the property leaving empty no people wanna rent..
buyers still need to pay bank loan + maintenance fee,
so where got money to buy RM5 bread to eat??

this is just a start, it will be a chain effect,
coming 3 years more and more fancy restaurants, hipster restaurants will be closing down...
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without people spending like that you where got house to rent? sleep under staircase? and who give you job if business bad?

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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ May 25 2017, 11:26 AM)
yup , even their coffee so good. malaysia one coffee so expensive but taste so bad and bread so so
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Brb, going for tea time today. biggrin.gif
Btw never visited Malaysian one.
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QUOTE(SMB002 @ May 25 2017, 11:28 AM)
Brb, going for tea time today.  biggrin.gif
Btw never visited Malaysian one.
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are you in vietnam?

i tried twice, was really excited when they opened in bangsar but was disappointed .. but i thought at that time maybe they just opened so give another try a year later but nope still bad lol not worth my money can spend other places more worth
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ May 25 2017, 11:31 AM)
are you in vietnam?

i tried twice, was really excited when they opened in bangsar but was disappointed .. but i thought at that time maybe they just opened so give another try a year later but nope still bad lol not worth my money can spend other places more worth
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From all the hype on FB, I never wanted to visit them anyway.
That's why I didn't visit them here as well. There's better option like highland coffee or cong cafe or phuc long.
I'm tempted to try starbucks too, never tried it here. biggrin.gif
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Marrybrown & Parkson getting big in China.

Also Jimmy Choo though you can eat them.

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there re many ppl willing to pay rm5 for a bread
so at this segment its pretty competitive
even The Loaf also getting irrelevant these days, not expanding much
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Loaf kinda a niche market con datuk

the rest is con melbourne wannabes

QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:27 AM)
pay for what? the RM5 bread?

definitely some people willing to pay RM5 but relative to ratio of malaysia population maybe just 0.0000000000001% of people
if many people willing to pay RM5 then they wont close down d,
even if wanna close down, there will be other investors see the opportunity and buy over the business..

now a day business not easy to do..
even big company also suffering..
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owh no, more than that

its actually a very competitive scene, that shop has like 4-5 competitors in almost every location they have.

its one of the biggest money earners these days, cook some ayamas sausage, baked beans and shit, charge 30 bucks
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Loaf kinda a niche market con datuk

the rest is con melbourne wannabes
owh no, more than that

its actually a very competitive scene, that shop has like 4-5 competitors in almost every location they have.

its one of the biggest money earners these days, cook some ayamas sausage, baked beans and shit, charge 30 bucks
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some give like wat canned button shrooms, knife brand, baked beans and some giant brand shit stuff

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without people spending like that you where got house to rent? sleep under staircase? and who give you job if business bad?

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your "people spend like that" is refering to who??
the people spend RM5 buy bread ?
or the people buy property and rent out?

i have no bad perception to any of the 2 group of people above,
i also hope economy to be stable, every one can afford Rm5 bread once a while.
But TOO MUCH of people day dreaming thinking that buy property and rent out can use rental to cover loan installment and after 35 years get a free house.
this is one of the root cause of property price hike, economy down, people can't afford expensive food once a while, shop restaurant close down, business doing bad start cutting headcounts..
it is a chain effect caused all people in a tough life..

not asking everyone not to buy property and rent out,
but TOO MUCH of people day dreaming of this will bring big trouble..
end end public just drop in the legal Money Game created by property developers..
rich ppl getting rich, poor ppl getting poor..
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QUOTE(SMB002 @ May 25 2017, 11:33 AM)
From all the hype on FB, I never wanted to visit them anyway.
That's why I didn't visit them here as well. There's better option like highland coffee or cong cafe or phuc long.
I'm tempted to try starbucks too, never tried it here.  biggrin.gif
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aww but the last time i was in ho chi minh i saw TLJ every corner of the street in the city

yea me too i cant get those ppl who go oversea and visit places like mcdonalds and starbucks lol

highland coffee is it the same as nguyen coffee
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your "people spend like that" is refering to who??
the people spend RM5 buy bread ?
or the people buy property and rent out?

i have no bad perception to any of the 2 group of people above,
i also hope economy to be stable, every one can afford Rm5 bread once a while.
But TOO MUCH of people day dreaming thinking that buy property and rent out can use rental to cover loan installment and after 35 years get a free house.
this is one of the root cause of property price hike, economy down, people can't afford expensive food once a while, shop restaurant close down, business doing bad start cutting headcounts..
it is a chain effect caused all people in a tough life..

not asking everyone not to buy property and rent out,
but TOO MUCH of people day dreaming of this will bring big trouble..
end end public just drop in the legal Money Game created by property developers..
rich ppl getting rich, poor ppl getting poor..
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aww but the last time i was in ho chi minh i saw TLJ every corner of the street in the city

yea me too i cant get those ppl who go oversea and visit places like mcdonalds and starbucks lol

highland coffee is it the same as nguyen coffee
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Feel like highland is more localized, but the coffee is really kau.
Actually I went Mcd for their nasi vavi. biggrin.gif
I kinda wonder how different their starbucks taste too. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ May 25 2017, 11:02 AM)
Korean but with French name. 

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It's not sign of bad times.
It means that they depends so much on overhype marketing while their product is trash.

Once the hype is gone, the shop will be gone.
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Korean stuff are good but overpriced.

Like their Kuvings juicer selling at RM2.7k.

just ridiculous.
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Not say overpriced. Our RM is just so weak. Plus they selling with Korean market in mind. They are expecting Koreans who got shitload of money to buy it. Not for the average peanut earning Malaysian
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It's just a normal bakery in Korea, just like Kings Bakery we have here. The why it's PREMIUM here is because it's a KOREAN brand thus malaysians it's a premium brand and all their flour, yeast, ingredients premium rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(Cloudx @ May 25 2017, 12:23 PM)
It's just a normal bakery in Korea, just like Kings Bakery we have here. The why it's PREMIUM here is because it's a KOREAN brand thus malaysians it's a premium brand and all their flour, yeast, ingredients premium rolleyes.gif
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Flour, yeast all imported from Korea! laugh.gif But please lah, KING Bakery is really sampah...even supermarket Bakery is better than them. King used to be respetacble maybe 10 years ago...now it's the worst bakery i can think off.

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Not say overpriced. Our RM is just so weak. Plus they selling with Korean market in mind. They are expecting Koreans who got shitload of money to buy it. Not for the average peanut earning Malaysian
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but why is Japan able to target low cost, but Korea doesn't want to do this? Look at Daiso, Panasonic and Aeon.

I wonder if Samsung and LG still sell low margin electronic products.

maybe Korea didn't want to bring their Lotte to here. But I am just curious.
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but why is Japan able to target low cost, but Korea doesn't want to do this? Look at Daiso, Panasonic and Aeon.

I wonder if Samsung and LG still sell low margin electronic products.

maybe Korea didn't want to bring their Lotte to here. But I am just curious.
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Daiso stuff probably made in China...LOL
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Daiso stuff probably made in China...LOL
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I think Banana Republic is made in China too.

Nowadays most things are made in China.
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I think Banana Republic is made in China too.

Nowadays most things are made in China.
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Same goes to jaguh kampung p2, selling car sake of jepunis
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No wonder last weekend I went, their quality like crap. Almost everything out of stock.

Nice decor but hardly any patron.
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QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 25 2017, 11:48 AM)
your "people spend like that" is refering to who??
the people spend RM5 buy bread ?
or the people buy property and rent out?

i have no bad perception to any of the 2 group of people above,
i also hope economy to be stable, every one can afford Rm5 bread once a while.
But TOO MUCH of people day dreaming thinking that buy property and rent out can use rental to cover loan installment and after 35 years get a free house.
this is one of the root cause of property price hike, economy down, people can't afford expensive food once a while, shop restaurant close down, business doing bad start cutting headcounts..
it is a chain effect caused all people in a tough life..

not asking everyone not to buy property and rent out,
but TOO MUCH of people day dreaming of this will bring big trouble..
end end public just drop in the legal Money Game created by property developers..
rich ppl getting rich, poor ppl getting poor..
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honestly there is no going back, rich people getting richer, poor people getting poorer.
the gap between the rich and poor will only get worst cause nothing is going to stop it, not even the government.
mainly because poor people day dream most of the time, while rich people stay greedy and always find ways to make more.
if the government taxes rich people more and give more BR1M to the poor, it will make the poor lazier and rely more on the gov.
when low income, get BR1M, when no income, blame gov and go protest. this is how you stay poor forever.
so in the end it's mindset problem not government or corporate problem.
every year also got poor people become rich, they dream, but not day dream, they find ways and action.
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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ May 25 2017, 12:30 PM)
but why is Japan able to target low cost, but Korea doesn't want to do this? Look at Daiso, Panasonic and Aeon.

I wonder if Samsung and LG still sell low margin electronic products.

maybe Korea didn't want to bring their Lotte to here. But I am just curious.
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U must be joking. Daiso is a Japanese brand. However,

Most if not all of their products are from China. The same goes for Panasonic and Aeon. Alot of their products are Made in China.

Do differentiate between Made in Japan and Made in China. Huge difference in terms of price. Same goes for Made in Korea products
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QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 25 2017, 01:37 PM)
honestly there is no going back, rich people getting richer, poor people getting poorer.
the gap between the rich and poor will only get worst cause nothing is going to stop it, not even the government.
mainly because poor people day dream most of the time, while rich people stay greedy and always find ways to make more.
if the government taxes rich people more and give more BR1M to the poor, it will make the poor lazier and rely more on the gov.
when low income, get BR1M, when no income, blame gov and go protest. this is how you stay poor forever.
so in the end it's mindset problem not government or corporate problem.
every year also got poor people become rich, they dream, but not day dream, they find ways and action.
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nah
if u were born into hardcore poor family these days, chances are u ll end up poor for most of ur life
this is true in China, HK, Korea, and other developed countries in the world, no more social mobility


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QUOTE(kevin23 @ May 25 2017, 02:02 PM)
U must be joking. Daiso is a Japanese brand. However,

Most if not all of their products are from China. The same goes for Panasonic and Aeon. Alot of their products are Made in China.

Do differentiate between Made in Japan and Made in China. Huge difference in terms of price. Same goes for Made in Korea products
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I am not joking. Made in China but sold by Japanese mart using low cost price margin. What's wrong with that? I am trying to say, Japanese is targeting the low cost market. This is what I like. Whether its China made Korea made or Japanese made.

And most stuff are made in China anyway? Banana Republic is made in China if I not mistaken. Nike shirts made in Bangladesh if I not mistaken, so what?

I am just saying, I so far see a lot of hype expensive Korean stuff. Can you name me some cheap low cost Korean products, whether made in china or where else?
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nah
if u were born into hardcore poor family these days, chances are u ll end up poor for most of ur life
this is true in China, HK, Korea, and other developed countries in the world, no more social mobility
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yes this is the spirit, keep it up. mindset like this is the reason why the poor stays poor.
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I am not joking. Made in China but sold by Japanese mart using low cost price margin. What's wrong with that? I am trying to say, Japanese is targeting the low cost market. This is what I like. Whether its China made Korea made or Japanese made.

And most stuff are made in China anyway? Banana Republic is made in China if I not mistaken. Nike shirts made in Bangladesh if I not mistaken, so what?

I am just saying, I so far see a lot of hype expensive Korean stuff. Can you name me some cheap low cost Korean products, whether made in china or where else?
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other than the typical electronics, there isn't really that many korean brands in malaysia yet to have a fair judgement

there is this SPAO, a JV between korean and Parkson, the pricing is below Superdry at its best



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yes this is the spirit, keep it up. mindset like this is the reason why the poor stays poor.
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sigh.. have u seen the "hardcore" poor in msia yet?

rest assure most ppl u see and mix belongs to middle class, not even close to poverty, that includes those brats who rant in /k/ and FB, the real hardcore poor don't even have the privilege to basic internet access



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yes this is the spirit, keep it up. mindset like this is the reason why the poor stays poor.
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i'm sure u are from rich family or at least mid-upper rich..
if not tell me what can a poor family kids do to turn his fate become rich???????

study?? degree??
u know how much pay for fresh grad?? 2k-3k
u know how many yearsss they need to work in order to climb to above 5k??
but even with 5k salary, condo price how much now?? 500k-800k
20 years later based on current inflation rate, condo price will exceed 1million..

but do u really think 20 years later fresh grad salary will become above 5k??
just look at the past 10 years, fresh grad salary stay stagnant 3k-4k..

ok la, maybe u say they struggle hard, workhard, work part time, work 3/4 jobs.. finally bought a condo.
but look around, the condo they bought is just an old, dirty, aging, high density condo.
so end end they are still living in "Modern poor" society,
they are still the poor category in society.



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It's not sign of bad times.
It means that they depends so much on overhype marketing while their product is trash.

Once the hype is gone, the shop will be gone.
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nah
if u were born into hardcore poor family these days, chances are u ll end up poor for most of ur life
this is true in China, HK, Korea, and other developed countries in the world, no more social mobility
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other than the typical electronics, there isn't really that many korean brands in malaysia yet to have a fair judgement

there is this SPAO, a JV between korean and Parkson, the pricing is below Superdry at its best
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Why they close down? no more hipster in Malaysia? confused.gif confused.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

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Been there and tried the bakery. Expensive and taste not good. Good that they kolo the business.
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Their cheesecake sedap n not as expensive.. Less than rm20 only
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ May 25 2017, 03:47 PM)
other than the typical electronics, there isn't really that many korean brands in malaysia yet to have a fair judgement

there is this SPAO, a JV between korean and Parkson, the pricing is below Superdry at its best
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expensive coffee, expensive bread, expensive rent.

No amoi canggih
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Viet & korea branch got pork. Only in kl no pork. Hahahaha
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according to their fb page sad.gif

https://www.facebook.com/touslesjoursmy/pho...?type=3&theater

close down due to bad economy?

or just the food sux?
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Korean but with French name. 

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TLF failed to answer the most basic question out of any bakery in Malaysia:

Why should anyone buy overpriced Korean interpretations of French pastries when there are bakeries in Malaysia owned by French chefs that offer better and cheaper pastries?

Hell, just a few blocks from TLJ Bangsar there's Yeast which offers an authentic French culinary and pastry experience by real French chefs. Who the hell wants to have French food served by Koreans when they can go for French food served by the French?
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TLF failed to answer the most basic question out of any bakery in Malaysia:

Why should anyone buy overpriced Korean interpretations of French pastries when there are bakeries in Malaysia owned by French chefs that offer better and cheaper pastries?

Hell, just a few blocks from TLJ Bangsar there's Yeast which offers an authentic French culinary and pastry experience by real French chefs. Who the hell wants to have French food served by Koreans when they can go for French food served by the French?
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Man, it's all about the promotion and marketing
Back to basic.

If u like to visit food bloggers, u can see majority of them wiĺ promote this shop.

They make it like this shop is a must place to visit, bla and bla.

Now the hype is gone, and this is the result that they get.
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Honestly not surprised at all.

Lavender > Tous
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Man, it's all about the promotion and marketing
Back to basic.

If u like to visit food bloggers, u can see majority of them wiĺ promote this shop.

They make it like this shop is a must place to visit, bla and bla.

Now the hype is gone, and this is the result that they get.
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But even with all the bloggers, they failed to answer the question:

Why should I eat at a Korean bakery that serves French food when I can go to an actual French restaurant nearby (Yeast) and have actual French food served by an actual French chef?
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Sad. I really liked their madeleines.
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Superdry
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Which of their branches closed ? All? Even their fb and website cannot be accessed
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I see. 

I hope one day we have some Malaysia brands that can be well known overseas. 

Like Ipoh Chicken Rice in Seoul. 

Satay Haji Samsuri in Tokyo. 

Lotus in Taipeh. 

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What do you mean one day? This is Penang Malaysian Restaurant in Boston

http://www.penangmalaysian.com/

There are so many Malaysian restaurants in London alone, it's not even funny.

https://www.google.com/search?q=malaysian+r...AE,lf:1,lf_ui:9

That's why I've been saying, don't listen to those people who say we suck and deserve to die.. they're not telling you the truth, they are only telling you what you want to hear because they want your vote.

PS. The roti in Boston costs something like $5 smile.gif and is just as good as the steak in KL.. which means to say, shakehead.gif

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What do you mean one day? This is Penang Malaysian Restaurant in Boston

http://www.penangmalaysian.com/

There are so many Malaysian restaurants in London alone, it's not even funny.

https://www.google.com/search?q=malaysian+r...AE,lf:1,lf_ui:9

That's why I've been saying, don't listen to those people who say we suck and deserve to die.. they're not telling you the truth, they are only telling you what you want to hear because they want your vote.

PS. The roti in Boston costs something like $5 smile.gif and is just as good as the steak in KL.. which means to say,  shakehead.gif
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i'm sure u are from rich family or at least mid-upper rich..
if not tell me what can a poor family kids do to turn his fate become rich???????

study?? degree??
u know how much pay for fresh grad?? 2k-3k
u know how many yearsss they need to work in order to climb to above 5k??
but even with 5k salary, condo price how much now?? 500k-800k
20 years later based on current inflation rate, condo price will exceed 1million..

but do u really think 20 years later fresh grad salary will become above 5k??
just look at the past 10 years, fresh grad salary stay stagnant 3k-4k..

ok la, maybe u say they struggle hard, workhard, work  part time, work 3/4 jobs.. finally bought a condo.
but look around, the condo they bought is just an old, dirty, aging, high density condo.
so end end they are still living in "Modern poor" society,
they are still the poor category in society.
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sorry man, i talked like that cause i came from a poor family. they couldn't help me and terbalik they were a burden to me. 2 times gambling debt caused me to lose my savings twice, i bet you can't even handle this shit.

i'm a degree grad started with RM1.5k 8 years ago. now i have a 3XXk property rented out, just bought another 6XXk condo last year and moved in with my wife, D-segment car bought 2 years ago, 2 houses and 1 car loan all under my name, 5k income can afford?? why you only think about 5k?

no money game, no toto, no mlm, no oversea, not O&G, not lawyer, not doctor

just normal field, just hardwork, sacrifices, thick face, aggressive and greedy.

i guess i'm lucky, lucky that i didn't think like you. if my mindset was like you i think now i'm still earning 3-4k only or maybe 14th floor already when my family gambling debt came on me.

anyway i need to thank people like you, cause when i started working most people are like you, therefore i only got the opportunity to climb faster, if all also mature and hardworking i think i didn't have the chance to shine.
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Honestly not surprised at all.

Lavender > Tous
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Lots of people know Penang restaurant in Boston, it's quite famous actually. Yelp itself has 743 reviews smile.gif
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperGroup
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SuperGroup plc is a British international branded clothing company, and owner of the Superdry label

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperGroup
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But good branding on their part
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Lavender bakery not halal. I saw them selling alcohol cakes.
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sorry man, i talked like that cause i came from a poor family. they couldn't help me and terbalik they were a burden to me. 2 times gambling debt caused me to lose my savings twice, i bet you can't even handle this shit.

i'm a degree grad started with RM1.5k 8 years ago. now i have a 3XXk property rented out, just bought another 6XXk condo last year and moved in with my wife, D-segment car bought 2 years ago, 2 houses and 1 car loan all under my name, 5k income can afford?? why you only think about 5k?

no money game, no toto, no mlm, no oversea, not O&G, not lawyer, not doctor

just normal field, just hardwork, sacrifices, thick face, aggressive and greedy.

i guess i'm lucky, lucky that i didn't think like you. if my mindset was like you i think now i'm still earning 3-4k only or maybe 14th floor already when my family gambling debt came on me.

anyway i need to thank people like you, cause when i started working most people are like you, therefore i only got the opportunity to climb faster, if all also mature and hardworking i think i didn't have the chance to shine.
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either that's big steaming heap of bullshit, or you're extremely lucky

if the latter, pray your luck continue, cause you will need it to continue servicing them loans
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Lavender > all (almost smile.gif )

(except for mine  laugh.gif )
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pfft, once u tried those in Korea one, can't even compete here. So many friggin choice in Korea's tour le jours.
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So who gonna replace the branch in w hotel at tthat BB junction?

Thsts pretty strategic but still losing money? Crazy
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Mammoth E is a conman developer lah. Now they're in deep shiet.
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SuperGroup plc is a British international branded clothing company, and owner of the Superdry label

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperGroup
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never been lol.

share some pix to judge pls
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funny thing was the day that i wanted to buy their bakery is the day they close shop. yesterday drove early to their place in bangsar. shop has no light and got one paper pasted on the door so i assumed it was closed temporarily. later check fb saw their post said they're closing down for good.
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whats that?

never enter once pun

same like tealive

after tukar nama and all never tried it even once till now
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The owner Mammoth Empire no enough funds to develop their mega project Empire City at Damansara, project got delayed. So they decided to sacrifice this bakery, closed it down for good. They even sold their shopping mall Empire Subang to another company to fund their damansara project.
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either that's big steaming heap of bullshit, or you're extremely lucky

if the latter, pray your luck continue, cause you will need it to continue servicing them loans
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lol i never depend on luck. screw luck. if i was lucky i didn't have to go through so much pain.

luck is for pussies like you, who surrenders to life. continue to be poor until you die.

stupid people become loan/debt slaves, clever people use loan/debt to make money.

you think all big business man started with a lot of cash in their pockets? anyway i don't think you'll understand how people do business and how people start from zero, no point telling you.

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lol i never depend on luck. screw luck. if i was lucky i didn't have to go through so much pain.

luck is for pussies like you, who surrenders to life. continue to be poor until you die.

stupid people become loan/debt slaves, clever people use loan/debt to make money.

you think all big business man started with a lot of cash in their pockets? anyway i don't think you'll understand how people do business and how people start from zero, no point telling you.
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Typical nouveau riche response
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Haha. You would be surprised by the number of self made millionaires in Malaysia especially in SMEs. I see a lot of 30+ years old with >5 companies and millions of cash/assets. Don't always think that join big company only got opportunities.

Instead of blaming rich people (Like I did during school), go and learn how they become rich (Not those family rich one). Maybe you need to change your circle of friends, your current one won't get you anywhere.

This is Malaysia, plenty of opportunities, it's all about choices and sacrifices. Don't be so stubborn. Or else there will be people around you like me climb over you.
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Haha. You would be surprised by the number of self made millionaires in Malaysia especially in SMEs. I see a lot of 30+ years old with >5 companies and millions of cash/assets. Don't always think that join big company only got opportunities.

Instead of blaming rich people (Like I did during school), go and learn how they become rich (Not those family rich one). Maybe you need to change your circle of friends, your current one won't get you anywhere.

This is Malaysia, plenty of opportunities, it's all about choices and sacrifices. Don't be so stubborn. Or else there will be people around you like me climb over you.
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1 would think that a person of such amazing business acumen would have learned not to simply shoot his mouth, especially over the internet.

So far I'm afraid you've shown me nothing more than typical salesman talk
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QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 26 2017, 12:54 PM)
Haha. You would be surprised by the number of self made millionaires in Malaysia especially in SMEs. I see a lot of 30+ years old with >5 companies and millions of cash/assets. Don't always think that join big company only got opportunities.

Instead of blaming rich people (Like I did during school), go and learn how they become rich (Not those family rich one). Maybe you need to change your circle of friends, your current one won't get you anywhere.

This is Malaysia, plenty of opportunities, it's all about choices and sacrifices. Don't be so stubborn. Or else there will be people around you like me climb over you.
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That said, I actually really like the garlic baguette and walnut cheese from tous le jours. Very nice.


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Used it to frequent it in Korea. Never had it here. Too bad it's gone. Would've liked to have options.

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QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 26 2017, 11:30 AM)
lol i never depend on luck. screw luck. if i was lucky i didn't have to go through so much pain.

luck is for pussies like you, who surrenders to life. continue to be poor until you die.

stupid people become loan/debt slaves, clever people use loan/debt to make money.

you think all big business man started with a lot of cash in their pockets? anyway i don't think you'll understand how people do business and how people start from zero, no point telling you.
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no point arguing

most people just cant see it lol

but everything u said is on point , cant quote the other comments but i agree with what u have said so far

anyway cant blame them most people do not have your grit and their understanding are highly based on their own life experience on how they handle problems or seize opportunities which is based on their own character n capabilities

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QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 25 2017, 07:05 PM)
sorry man, i talked like that cause i came from a poor family. they couldn't help me and terbalik they were a burden to me. 2 times gambling debt caused me to lose my savings twice, i bet you can't even handle this shit.

i'm a degree grad started with RM1.5k 8 years ago. now i have a 3XXk property rented out, just bought another 6XXk condo last year and moved in with my wife, D-segment car bought 2 years ago, 2 houses and 1 car loan all under my name, 5k income can afford?? why you only think about 5k?

no money game, no toto, no mlm, no oversea, not O&G, not lawyer, not doctor

just normal field, just hardwork, sacrifices, thick face, aggressive and greedy.

i guess i'm lucky, lucky that i didn't think like you. if my mindset was like you i think now i'm still earning 3-4k only or maybe 14th floor already when my family gambling debt came on me.

anyway i need to thank people like you, cause when i started working most people are like you, therefore i only got the opportunity to climb faster, if all also mature and hardworking i think i didn't have the chance to shine.
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based on your description,
im sure your work some kind of like salesman, or bodek people kind of job, wiping people shoe..

to drive D segment car stay 600k condo by scarifying Maruah..
i better just continue be poor, that make me more happy than being the rich-man's dog..


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QUOTE(mw1980 @ May 26 2017, 12:54 PM)
Haha. You would be surprised by the number of self made millionaires in Malaysia especially in SMEs. I see a lot of 30+ years old with >5 companies and millions of cash/assets. Don't always think that join big company only got opportunities.

Instead of blaming rich people (Like I did during school), go and learn how they become rich (Not those family rich one). Maybe you need to change your circle of friends, your current one won't get you anywhere.

This is Malaysia, plenty of opportunities, it's all about choices and sacrifices. Don't be so stubborn. Or else there will be people around you like me climb over you.
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Disgustingly true.
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QUOTE(o0o0 @ May 26 2017, 05:15 PM)
based on your description,
im sure your work some kind of like salesman, or bodek people kind of job, wiping people shoe..

to drive D segment car stay 600k condo by scarifying Maruah..
i better just continue be poor, that make me more happy than being the rich-man's dog..
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lol dog? now you not your current boss's dog? when you are married you not your wife's dog? when your client scold you don't you look like a dog? when you are poor and you need to borrow money from your relatives/ friends don't you beg like a dog?

poor kuli got maruah? joke of the year. the so called 'maruah' worth nothing & nobody cares. when you are successful then only you get back all the 'maruah'.

sacrifice maruah? you think we really need to hisap batang to earn money ke? cheap brain = cheap thoughts.

imagine 1 day when you can't even afford your children's necessities, by that time let me see how you pay with your 'maruah', DOG
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post May 26 2017, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ May 26 2017, 05:02 PM)
no point arguing

most people just cant see it lol

but everything u said is on point , cant quote the other comments but i agree with what u have said so far

anyway cant blame them most people do not have your grit and their understanding are highly based on their own life experience on how they handle problems or seize opportunities which is based on their own character n capabilities
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haha i know most people can't see it, i just come here to fire shots & have fun. who knows some of the minorities understand it and change their lives? that's the greatest thing we can do for others.

i'm not the one who blame first. they blame the most, blame the gov, blame the rich, blame the god, blame the world and etc.

actually i don't care about their understanding, i'm grateful that this world is full of people like this if not it will be harder for us to build up from nothing. imagine a world full of matured, hardworking and clever people, i think i can't even get a job as a janitor.
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post May 26 2017, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(lfw @ May 25 2017, 04:20 PM)
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Why they close down? no more hipster in Malaysia?  :confused:  :confused:  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Hipster don't go to tlj



And to that person who said someone else got lucky etc.
You'd be surprised that hardwork does pay. If u already have a job but it's sucks, maybe try selling insurance on the side. Yes. Not easy. Starting Duit dapat Sikit. But hey, u can try seeing one person a day after work. Just one. Then slow build from there.
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post Jun 21 2017, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Twins10 @ May 25 2017, 11:19 AM)
But tous just small fry in korea.
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They are not a small fry in Korea. Tour Le Jour is a brand that belongs to CJ Group which belongs to the Lee family (Samsung). CJ Group is a major Chaebol.




koguma
post Sep 18 2017, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(vassilius @ May 25 2017, 11:13 AM)
tried once only, the bukit bintang branch... i would say, totally overrated and food so-so only... in a better economy situation, they probably could still survive...
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I should mention that they used to provide breakfast at the WOLO hotel in Bukit Bintang. That was the only reason to stay at Wolo. You would get all you can eat buns and pastries. Definitely worth the price of breakfast. I think not many people knew that.
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post Sep 18 2017, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(benson92 @ May 25 2017, 10:56 AM)
i think so
yes but overpriced still got ppl go  rolleyes.gif
agree, korea i tried before, not bad
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Apparently not enough people go.

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