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 Oct 11 2008, 03:47 AM
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my tank is vr small and my room is vr messy...
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Oct 11 2008, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Oct 11 2008, 01:51 PM) cpf, give me la... haha... i wan to keep it and grow it in terrarium, then later transfer the my tank, then if ppl in malacca want it can get from me as well lo, since in malacca here a lot of plant cant find. yalor... melaka here all cheap cheap capalang plants...  |
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Oct 11 2008, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Oct 11 2008, 05:14 PM) haha .. how to give laa ? melaka not many enthusisiat ler... why not u two make LFS there .. sure laku ..   |
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Oct 12 2008, 01:27 AM
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ehh, after i diy the co2 supply and put it into the tank... the tank surface seems to have a layer of oil..... co2 produced by yeast contains oil substance??...
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Oct 12 2008, 02:14 AM
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Oct 12 2008, 02:05 AM) LOL .. post ? are u sure ??? whats a skimmer??... those HOB filter with floating device??... i'm using dat as well but still can see oily substance on da water surface.... is the oil harmful??... MAC forumer said the oil is produced by plants, not co2.... hmm . didnt notice that when i use diy co2 .. maybe i have a skimmer .. ... maybe other knows |
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Oct 12 2008, 05:25 AM
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i notice some hairy stuff growing from this plant...
  algae attack??... the leaves dont seem healthy as well... looks like some kinda skin cancer with dark spot all over it... |
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Oct 12 2008, 12:21 PM
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here u go..
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « this one also seems like dying... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on October 12, 2008, 9:36 pmno one knows??... help This post has been edited by the_catacombs: Oct 12 2008, 09:36 PM |
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Oct 13 2008, 05:35 AM
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Oct 12 2008, 10:40 PM) yeah .. it looks like its melting ..what is ur temp now ? not sure... i'm gonna get a thermometer soon.... i have 2 cpu fan blowing already... still hot??....i've read that too much co2 supply could also cause it to melt... is it true??.... anything i can do to save my plant??... |
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Oct 13 2008, 06:42 AM
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QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Oct 13 2008, 06:35 AM) sometimes is not just the co2 or the water temperature, got other reason, like the ph, the water condition, no2, no3 those thing, water parameter will cause it become like that as well. so how can i diagnose whats the problem leh??... sometimes maybe your tank don't have the beneficial bacteria growing in the tank, like in the filter, so it might cause like that as well. maybe i'm wrong about it, but sometimes it might happen like that. |
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Oct 13 2008, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Oct 13 2008, 10:11 AM) nope, the film of oil is created by the plants themselves... after i added an air pump and surface skimmer, the layer of oil gone adi... those are the protein, that's y need surface skimmer to do the work..  |
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Oct 13 2008, 03:38 PM
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weather damn hot.... i afraid my plants will get heat stroke... dont know what water temp now... i have 2 cpu fan blowing at full blast....
 the black thing developing on the leaves, i think its algae... its kind hairy... i also notice other plants starts growing out roots and stems... hopefully they will start growing even more... going to get 1 or 2 algae eater already.... but the LFS didnt open today... aih... next day first lah.... i've also introduced a normal sucker into the tank to clean up the spots developing around inner tank wall.... |
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Oct 13 2008, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Oct 13 2008, 03:45 PM) don't simply put fish in oh they wil eat ur plants also. the black algea is BBA, manually remove it. thanks for the advice... so far he is still sucking on the same spot whole afternoon... gonna return to my housemate few days later after i bought my algae eater...any good and small algae eater can recommend to me??... i want around da size of 2cm.... - SAE - CAE - otto - shrimp... which one?... any advice??.. thanks...  QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Oct 13 2008, 03:55 PM) even though u put 10 fan, the result will still the same.... yeah.... i removed 1 fan already since its blocking my lighting... currently only 1 fan running... tap power from cpu power supply 12v....but few things diff is 1) u need to top up water more frequent. 2) u electric bill will cost more. QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Oct 13 2008, 04:18 PM) some update on my tank... waa.... so nice and so big ur tank... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « the red rotala need to be chopped off some this week...  anyway, jz diy'ed my lighting stand... temporary using A4 paper coz havent do the reflector...  |
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Oct 14 2008, 03:10 AM
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i also want hairgrass...
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Oct 14 2008, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Oct 14 2008, 08:20 AM) depends on what type of algae u wanna fight, normally sae will do the job, cae a bit slow. otto dont eat bba and hair algae??... otto is another option, but they won eat bba and hair algae. shrimp? yamate...(opps, i mean yamato) why use A4, u can buy the reflector easily from electric shop, for 2 ft, will cost u less than 20 just standard 3ft tank i have. glosso? i just trim, F'ing lot, but already give away all, din tell me earlier... otto won help with the hair algae and bba. A4 paper is jz temporary... not free to get reflector now... exam week... huhuhu... QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Oct 14 2008, 11:05 AM) next time got glosso again let me know ya, what plant you have there? ehh boss, if i cannot get an SAE in time, can sell me one of ur SAE ahh??... later u get from NSEW fish shop lor next week... ok tak??... haha, my tank now got 2 SAE, 1 CAE and 2 otto...  Added on October 14, 2008, 8:46 pmi think i know what happen to my plants... those hair algae development is because i switch on the lighting for too long period... LFS recommend 8 hours of lighting daily is needed... i think mine previously was 8 hours of non-lighting... lolz... bought a thermometer as well... water temp now is 28oC.... This post has been edited by the_catacombs: Oct 14 2008, 08:46 PM |
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Oct 15 2008, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(coldfusionpower @ Oct 15 2008, 12:01 PM) 8hours non-lighting .. so u on the light 16hours ?? more or less... |
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Oct 15 2008, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Oct 15 2008, 12:53 PM) wow, no wonder hair algae so happy if i reduce the lighting now, will the algae dies off??... or do i need to remove the whole algae infested plants??... |
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Oct 15 2008, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Oct 15 2008, 02:13 PM) pinchboy, your signature is nice le... i've controlled the lighting already... limited to evening till da time i sleep... lolz... approx 10 hours or less i guess....about the algae, once the lighting is control, the growth of algae is control, but in order to clean of all of it, you need to WC frequently, later you also need to intro some algae eater, based on what algae is growing, and sometimes need to remove it manually by hand is there is some situation. gonna do WC before leaving melaka.... but there isnt any algae eater that eats BBA hair algae rite??... yday i tried removing it manually by hand... some already grown into the leaves and stems and cannot be removed... i'll monitor the growth till tomolo... if still bad gonna change the whole plant... it started raining... but water temp still remain at 28oC... This post has been edited by the_catacombs: Oct 15 2008, 02:29 PM |
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Oct 15 2008, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Oct 15 2008, 05:31 PM) manual remove ok... i guess i'll jz remove da whole plant and replace with a fresh one... afterall, rm1 nia... but my moss also infected... aih... remove it as well lah... |
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Oct 16 2008, 04:26 AM
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QUOTE(zoejehuty @ Oct 15 2008, 09:03 PM) some of them you can just rub it on the surface, rub till gone, some you just cut of the left. so troublesome... i took out the whole plant and put inside another smaller aquarium adi... made another planted aqua using my previous 15cm tank... if moss got, then you just see and monitor, if stop growing then is ok, mine that day take out all the moss, and re-tide all back, those got grow with HA one i just throw it, the rest tide it back lo... take me for 3 hours to do that job... phew...  ohya, one of my diy co2 bottle cap is leaking... no wonder whole day no co2 bubble coming out... |
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Oct 16 2008, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Oct 16 2008, 07:55 AM) till 1 day u will upgrade to pressurize CO2 tank... dun tempt me bro... today i saw a nice diffuser selling for rm15 also didnt buy... jz managed to get an algae eater (otto i guess) and some plants.... (got my hairgrass as well is much more convenient, in fact is cheaper for long run (of course need quite amount of $$ to kick start)...  )... but end up headache where to sumbat da plant... lolz....  removed large amount of algae infected moss as well... unfortunately one of my serpae tetra is dead....  most of my glowlight tetras kinda tanned (black color like hangus adi).... i wonder if the lighting was too much for them...  |
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