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post Feb 10 2009, 11:07 PM

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ahaha .. ok .. do change it to diffuser ok .. or .. make ur own CO2 reactor with pvc pipes and some bioballs ..
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post Feb 15 2009, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 14 2009, 02:14 PM)
are those nana petite??.. rolleyes.gif
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ahaha .. yeah it is .. and looking growing well i see .. if Nezu hv extra.. can sell to me ... nana petite is rm35 per pot at SLS sweat.gif sweat.gif

update on my semi cichlid planted tank ..
80% crushed coral removed, tank was half cleaned, fish removed to temp place, backgound attached but still curing, pumps, light and wiring is in place.

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p/s: 9ft tank permission was denied .. mom said cost too high .. tank alone is 1.5k, cabinet is 2k, all substrate, powersand, bacterballs, penac, etc is 4k, co2 with solenoid will cost 600, lights is 7k.... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

to save cost, i planned to diy a plywood tank but that patern is denied as well .. mom said she dont want me to go fibreglass or even if i only used the resin anymore .. sweat.gif sweat.gif

maybe gonna buy a 3ft instead and put it in my room .. laugh.gif

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post Feb 15 2009, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 15 2009, 04:28 PM)
i thought chinese pantang put aquarium inside room??... haha... tongue.gif
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AHAHAHA .. im not chinese ... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Feb 15 2009, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 15 2009, 05:45 PM)
wahhaha.... good la no pantang larang.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ching4ever @ Feb 15 2009, 05:46 PM)
support from mom or just because you stay with family that's why plan get denied?
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denied because she wanted to use the space lar .. 9ft is damn big .. and it consume too much of my time and money .. tongue.gif

QUOTE(danny2 @ Feb 15 2009, 06:43 PM)
den u indian?
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no ... im rojak buah bugis .... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Feb 16 2009, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Feb 16 2009, 09:48 AM)
so have to remod the bubble counter become CO2 reactor bell...
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it not gonna do anything. the co2 just gonna build up in the container and overspill ... goes upward .. u need something to desolve it into the water ..google DIY CO2 Reactor ..

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 16 2009, 10:34 AM)
tell ur mum a 9ft tank with 7K consider cheap lah hahahhahha tongue.gif then tell her when come out very nice and green. good for everyone eyes in the family. cos we always look at compueter n TV no good
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ahaha .. 7k just the lights ...total everything is around 15k

QUOTE(playerseeker @ Feb 16 2009, 11:29 AM)
wan to ask u bought the ADA bacterball from which LFS and does tat LFS selling fertilizer ball like the one tenchi bought??
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ADA bacterballs is smaller than that ..

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post Feb 17 2009, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(red_dream83 @ Feb 17 2009, 12:24 AM)
ADA is expensive but it maybe worth rite. have to save my money for that  sweat.gif 
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yes .. it worth it in a long run ...

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 17 2009, 03:36 AM)
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nice tank rclxms.gif ... but wheres the shrimp ? huhu .. become Ghost edi ar ? tongue.gif

QUOTE(usermode @ Feb 17 2009, 09:19 AM)
it's to prevent water to go into your regulator expecially if you're using solenoid regulator which if it happens, it might cause your regulator to be broken (you dont want to buy another RM200+ regulator just because of this mistake will ya).
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yes.. check valve is important. like usermode said. it will prevent water to come into the regulator when there's no co2 pressure or OFF. this can happen to any co2 device. no matter u are using manual regulator, diy co2 or solenoid regulator. and no it wont broke your regulator. dont worry ... just we dont want any water in the pressurized bottle ..DIY co2 not that important .. since it will add more water to the mix .. ahahaha


QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:25 AM)
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thats industrial check valves ... the small spinning top look alike check valve commonly used for automotive .. tongue.gif .. some even for hydraulics ..

QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:47 AM)

Do anyone know where can I get hold on Hemianthus Callitrichoides 'cuba' (HC) in Prai,Penang area?
Do this HC hard to grow as glosso?
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that one i dunno .. but a friend told me that theres a big LFS near the Juru autocity tho .. didnt know true or not. ... ahaha yes ...


QUOTE(usermode @ Feb 17 2009, 12:15 PM)
glosso :
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tenchi bro, there's another foreground too that you could choose. just depends on your tank setup and compatibility. some other foreground plants that normally use are :

- normal hairgrass
- japanese hairgrass
- Utricularia graminifolia (quite a challenging plant, i just stated planting this to try, never have experience tho)

there's more varieties for foreground. mostly people choose based on their scape design and hardwares compatibility. the easiest are hairgrasses. for nano, erm.. i dunno. LOL~!! u should ask others opinion. i du have nano tank. huhuhu.... i hate small tank >_<

as i said, with my limited experience and knowledge... i might be wrong. you should get more precise information from other pros.

gd luck bro.
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good info ...

personally, i like glosso better .. but HC will cover up the ground much dense and nicer .. japanese hairgrass as the back to create visual of depth ... smile.gif .. but for nano .. err .. not sure .. maybe HC would be nicer .. my smallest tank is 2ft .. tongue.gif no experience with nano tank . sorry ... maybe catacomb and nezu hv more ideas
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post Feb 18 2009, 03:30 AM

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grade S around 40-50 each i think .. or issit grade A .. forgot edi ..
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post Feb 18 2009, 11:39 AM

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yeah ... the Orange Drawf Crayfish is super cool ! looks like miniture lobster !!

one time .. i got grade A .. about 10 of them. they breed and guess what . they was killed ... a stupid nephew of mine pour milo inside the tank .. since that i have cctv looking at my tanks 24/7... AHAHA
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post Feb 19 2009, 11:00 AM

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if not mistaken .. the whiter the body, the more high the grade ...
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post Feb 19 2009, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 18 2009, 07:43 PM)
Oh.. So, its true then ..
Wanna swap my marine tank to planted tank already..
Salt water in my room is a big No No.. Everyday enter my room.. Never get comfortable with the floor..

How much cash needed if I want those black coloured soil for 4 feet tank?
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ohoho .. saw ur advertisment at MAC .. welcome to planted tank world ! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ching4ever @ Feb 19 2009, 12:10 PM)
Dont' know why, to me the more whiter the CRS is, the more ugly it looks like.
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hahaha . same here ...
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post Feb 20 2009, 12:49 AM

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Here's my previous planted tank cost

Used standard 4 footer tank with metal stand = rm50
9ltr Amazonia II x 4 bags = rm320
9ltr Amazonia II Powder x 2 bags = rm280
Dymax 4ft 110w PLL with casing x 2 = rm520
9kg CO2 Tank with regulator and diffuser = rm340
Used broken Resun CL650 chiller = rm250 (repaired it myself.. cost FOC tongue.gif)
china brand canister filter x 2 : rm320
lights timer x 2: rm80

plants, fishes, driftwood, fert, etc ... cant remember .. but i know i spend too much on planted tank .. huhuhu


my current cichlid tank

used standard 4 footer with metal stand : rm30
coral rocks x 16kg : rm120
crushed coral sand No.5 x 2 bags : rm30
crushed coral sand No.1 x 2 bags : rm30
china brand canister filter : rm180
air pump and air stone : rm30
small bunches of Nana Petite : rm30
DIY background cost : rm39
light timer : rm40

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post Feb 20 2009, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 20 2009, 01:08 PM)
rm350 worth it i guess.... coz solenoid regulator is expensive... jz make sure da regulator works well and not leaking...
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if possible ask for discount .. for rm400 i can get new 2kg tank and solenoid ..

QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 20 2009, 01:12 PM)
What's the different between Normal and Powder? Heard I have to use normal on bottom for the root and powder on the top layer.

I don't know the name of plants and scaping. Let me describe a bit.
Its those short grass, I believe its called japanese short grass to cover all the soil. 1 inch soil enough?
Then few limestones stacked closely together at the rear/side of glass so I can put 3 inches soil inside for taller plants.
In between the limestone. There will be a few long driftwood reaching almost the middle top of my tank covered with greeny short grass.
Am I hard to understand?
Maybe its iwagumi...  tongue.gif
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normal soil is big while powder is smaller .. powder soil is needed when u want to plant small foreground plants since the powder has more smaller gab so the roots can easier stick to. if u dont use foreground plants, normal soil will suffice ..

grass : japanese hair grass .. its a foreground plant .. so need powder .. the side where taller plants, dont need powder soil .

iwagumi means rock arrangement . usually one or two island of rocks only are used in the whole tank .. each island use 3diffrent stone or 7 max .. other places will be covered by foreground .. usually glosso or HC. most iwagumi doesnt hv other plants type at the scape .. but a few nice big blyxa japonica located near the island would be nice ... nod.gif

iwagumi examples..

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QUOTE(red_dream83 @ Feb 20 2009, 01:43 PM)
I want to try iwagumi style but some article i read said iwagumi style is harder to maintain then dutch style. is it true? any opinion?
Now I try dutch stye since I'm noob.  blink.gif
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nah .. i think iwagumi is easier .. less trimming .. ahahaha .. before doing iwagumi, i had to trim every week .. =_="


QUOTE(pinchboyz @ Feb 20 2009, 02:11 PM)
i tot the rules is just odd number?
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well .. theres actually some arguement about this for years... some said this .. some said that ... my last iwagumi doesnt follow that .. because i dunno which one to follow ..

QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 20 2009, 02:20 PM)
Planted tank got rules to follow? Can't I make rojak rule myself? I mean to scape on my own liking.
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rojak2 laa .. tongue.gif .. aslong ur eyes are happy ..ok edi .. tongue.gif

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 20 2009, 03:32 PM)
how much does aquasoil powder cost??.. i think i need some for my glosso to grow well... they seem very fragile and seems like uprooting themselves... sweat.gif
its usually called the "golden ratio"...many experts follow the golden ratio to make da tank look pleasing and attractive... to me i tak faham yet... lolz... laugh.gif
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if 9ltr amazonia II powder, will cost rm120-140 each bag.

golden ratio is just the placement ratio .. they calculate where your focus area should be. for iwagumi, focus area should be the biggest rock. usually if ur tank is 3ft, the focus area you wanted is to the left, ur focus point should be 1ft apart from left and 2ft apart from right ..

if not mistaken laa .. i forgot this stuff edi .. HAHAHA
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crayfish or so called 'lobster' cant live inside a planted tank .. they will kacau the soil and rip apart the plants .......
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post Feb 21 2009, 04:56 PM

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huhuhu ...thats a veryy nice cichlid. stop tempting me presario316 .... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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yes u can .. but im not sure how well glosso will grow tho ..

heres my previous tank .. with just holland sand ..
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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Mar 2 2009, 06:38 PM)
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hey .. i recognise that tank !! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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or you can always make a trap with cucumber inside ... let one day .. sure got snails in the trap .
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post Mar 8 2009, 10:21 PM

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well not exactly a trap . more like a free feast for them .. ahaha . i tried it once and it works .. but puffer fish would be better .. the problem is, where do u wanna throw the puffer fish when he's done ? .. coz puffer can kacau shrimp also ..

anyway .. just take a bottle .. cut it into three section .. throw the middle part .. put cucumber inside the bottom part .. and the top part put it upside down . so the nozzle.mouth are pointed downward. the snail will go in and eat the cucumber and stay there ... some will go out but most will stay because theres food .. ahaha
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