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angelatby
post Jul 1 2017, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(xxiu @ Jul 1 2017, 12:30 PM)
34ft wide minus 10ft for the land only 24ftwide, consider very narrow for smd, it's like normal terrace house n-lot
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Hi what do you mean by minus 10ft ? usually it meant the built up already isnt . setback is setback .

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post Jul 1 2017, 01:26 PM

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The last i enquired about 2 weeks back, phase 2 entry price for smallest semi-d would be 1.4mil which is rm100k cheaper than phase 1. The reason is also due to smaller total built up area. Maintenance fees as usual around rm600 (approx.) but the phase 1 environment / overall facilities would be better.
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post Jul 1 2017, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Just Saying @ Jul 1 2017, 06:26 PM)
I'm surprised u said that. The width dimension is your overall house compound. Not built up. Built up is area inside ur house two floors combined. 24 feet width for a semi-d is small leh. Don't add the 10 feet side land.
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yes the land size, my bad ! Back to the built up vs pricings. The way i see Eco Ardence is more of how efficient is the space utilized rather. OK i got abit hangover as im pretty sure Eco Ardence only have Semi D and Bungalow at this juncture and for the Pavilion (phase 1) or Garden (phase 2) i do think it is not link house no matter how one wants to bring it down 😅 Maybe a hybrid Semi D, cant call it superlink neither. Theres a 10ft space at the side and the reason why it is not entirely through and out is because of the smaller land size. Are we really looking at 40'x80' semi d land size now ?

Eco World had done it brilliantly because the structure blocking your 10' side space is in fact full glazing. Isnt is better than you hang your clothes there, the yard could be somehow hidden at the other side potentially.

Seriously this is a better one compared to RM1mil periwinkle at the Rimbayu, similar land size ? 32' x 70'/75' but a dumb spaces arrangement. Im not buying either one lol dont take it seriously !Attached Image

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post Jul 1 2017, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Just Saying @ Jul 1 2017, 06:26 PM)
I'm surprised u said that. The width dimension is your overall house compound. Not built up. Built up is area inside ur house two floors combined. 24 feet width for a semi-d is small leh. Don't add the 10 feet side land.
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yes the land size, my bad ! Back to the built up vs pricings. The way i see Eco Ardence is more of how efficient is the space utilized rather. OK i got abit hangover as im pretty sure Eco Ardence only have Semi D and Bungalow at this juncture and for the Pavilion (phase 1) or Garden (phase 2) i do think it is not link house no matter how one wants to bring it down 😅 Maybe a hybrid Semi D, cant call it superlink neither. Theres a 10ft space at the side and the reason why it is not entirely through and out is because of the smaller land size and the creative usage of space than just a boring typical layout. Are we really looking at 40'x80' semi d land size now ?

Eco World had done it brilliantly because the structure blocking your 10' side space is in fact full glazing. You will have both sides green view. Isnt is better than you hang your clothes there, the yard could be somehow hidden at the other side potentially.

Seriously this is a better one compared to RM1mil periwinkle at the Rimbayu, similar land size ? 32' x 70'/75' but a dumb spaces arrangement. Im not buying either one lol dont take it seriously ! Attached Image

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post Jul 2 2017, 06:07 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 2 2017, 01:54 AM)
You can justify it by all sort of hybrid n design differentiation but you need to look at yr spa....does it say outloud rumah teras 2 tingkat or macam rumah tingkat tapi macam smd. Qua pun tak tahu...

Have you hear of link smd n link bungalow?
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Need to open up the mind for modernised designs. Look at Zero Lot, is that really a total bungalow (when it newly came out) seriously yawn.gif The typical semi-d or bungalow is ohhh full land at the sides or all round. This is 'partially' (probably less than 30sqft space room or a 8' x 10' wall shared with your neighbour, that caused some reactions ?) thus i said hybrid, variation of semi-d. Link is link lah, cant have link semi d or link bungalow, unless is clustered like the Periwinkle semi-d, i cant get over my mind : The dwaft size bungalow of approx. 2000sqft.

Oh yeah, Eco World did mentioned these are semi d and bungalow : does it really matter what is in SPA. Or maybe they did the wrong approach this time, should just follow the usual approach of a total semi d and bungalow.

To me, as long as is properly executed : we will see semi-d / bungalow sizes getting smaller and smaller just like terrace house lol.

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post Jul 2 2017, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(Just Saying @ Jul 2 2017, 06:53 AM)
I think the type of house that is mentioned in your spa will determine its future value? It looks like link house in semi-d's clothing so to speak. Link house is too cheap looking but in order to make it more 'posh' and sound reasonably priced so that they can sell in bulk, they came out with this idea.
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no lah. they can view the actual unit to get a feel themselves. im pretty confident to say this Ardence will have the unique sides than of usual semi d. i disagree your last comment, why would Eco World do that, Is more of a challenge due to smaller size semi d. Break out space.

Refer 1 : current proposal for pavillion / garden. You still get yoir own roof and 10' compound.

Refer 2 : my proposal, if i elevate the room / lounge up you get a floating box you still get your own roof and 10' compound.

i will market it as semi d but yeah you can term it differently. pavillion is more focus on the lounge whereby garden more of garden views. Attached Image

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post Jul 2 2017, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 2 2017, 10:42 AM)
I open to new design....pushing the boundaries. Its the peopl that bought it or about to buy it wanting it to be higher spec which is not.

Just accept it as overpriced link house......nothing more nothing less.

If they want to create something 'look like' smd, why dun just sell as smd? What is the restriction here?

Link will be link...the price cant climb over smd in the same development.

Zero lots no share wall with neigbours.
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top, side, bird view or rear also dont looks like link la how to be link. they have options of conventional semi d ma. how the price be more in the similar development, cant get Ecopark with the size nor park Ecoglade with the same (both larger built up). cant compare with many projects as this is EcoWorld, specifications definitely high. Zero lot lack of 10' boundary means you are much closer to your neigbour yet trying to be exclusive.
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post Jul 2 2017, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 2 2017, 12:38 PM)
Tis one top side bird eye rear look rumah teras to me.....
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rumah teres shared 'party/fire wall' woh (smackforehead)
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post Jul 2 2017, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 2 2017, 12:33 PM)
Yes correct....if you like the design n the price tag....just go for it...and accepting it as rumah teras.

And not look right left center look like smd but w rumah teras price hence good buy.....

Proper zelo lot bungalow still bungalow....meaning no share wall n you can walk around the perimeter without intruding yr neigbours place.
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cant walk around like a decent bungalow. if i want to be nasty, zero lot is hybrid version of semi d 😅 anyway ...
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post Jul 2 2017, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 2 2017, 12:51 PM)
Tis one doesnt share?
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nope. see no.2 sketchAttached Image
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post Jul 2 2017, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 2 2017, 12:55 PM)
Some zero lot wannabe perhaps....

Not all.
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This still dont look like Semi D in disguise 😅? you only have 1 usable side, the other side is all the way to boundary line Attached Image
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post Jul 2 2017, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(kelchai @ Jul 2 2017, 01:05 PM)
Best ever description, yes pavilion home 1st floor bedroom can have side windows that does not share wall with one side of neighbor.
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finally someone understands my meaning phewwww .
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post Jul 2 2017, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Jul 2 2017, 08:24 AM)
Just think of the 'pavilion' structure as side extension in order to add build up area on a relatively small land plot for a proper semi-d. Lol.
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Right..or can laugh about it but is pretty practical and another way to enhance space. Is open up or like the Eco World s 'pavillion' branding, wont feel like you are sharing a wall rather, a walk through structure.

Giant tent, or a misinterpretation of external kiddies play tent
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post Jul 2 2017, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(sam59 @ Jul 2 2017, 01:17 PM)
Zero lot bungalow still have minimum 4ft on 1 side..not attached directly to the fence like this..u must be confused.
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is not required because the setback between house to house is already 10' . no time to sketch brb .
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post Jul 2 2017, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 2 2017, 03:34 PM)
Got lah....the lounge shared party wall....

Share wall doesnt have tp be full wall de....

Same w linked smds....most shared butt wall....
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shared low wall. so still prefer to call it terrace house ? i rest my case lol.
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post Jul 2 2017, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(sam59 @ Jul 2 2017, 01:15 PM)
For me, this is still a terrace house..but you can syiok sendiri to call it semi D..
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Im just opening up the picture of how these terms are officialised and some are as of/or construction terms.
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post Jul 2 2017, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(kelchai @ Jul 2 2017, 01:24 PM)
No EcoWorld does not branding it as Semi-D, It is still Pavilion home.
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They probably did the right thing, i think they have eyesight as otherwise would need to deal with many bitter purchasers.

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post Jul 3 2017, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 2 2017, 11:42 PM)
See what malay term they used in spa and other legal document.....

Will be surprised if they called it smd, rumah pavili or rumah taman. ...

Sorry to say that.....am not jeolous or red eye.......if ew can sell as smd, why they wanted to sell as garden or pavillion home?

Actiually ew launches these types of homes in eco grandeir and eco forest.......i dun see any buyers debating about of they are smds.

The line is cleared....if they are not bungalow or smd they are links....even if you dun recognised the joining part is party wall.

Actually this concept is not new....ytl also launched similar homes in lake edge over 10 yrs ago.....surprising also called it pavillion, garden and one other name..
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not party wall la. party wall is party wall (refer same sketch). party wall usually erected up to the roof, front to the back of a unit plint to prevent fire encroach the neighbour unit.

ya meh, i remember visited a friend at the Lake Edge, right many years ago, 3 storey and is pretty sure a terrace house. i didnt check out semi d though.

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post Jul 3 2017, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 2 2017, 11:49 PM)
Why? Garden home more sek hiong than smd? Lol

Nanti buyers tak puas hati if they named it smd instead of garden or pavillion home????
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the other way round. bitter buyers must die die have side space a clear cut semi d. must have the name semi d when stay in semi d.

i couldnt care less, if i stay is i likey (gosh i talk like you now!!)
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post Jul 13 2017, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(kelchai @ Jul 13 2017, 07:15 PM)
No. a typical terrace house in malaysia, the master room's bathroom is right infront (due to the need of air ventilation via windows), as shown below, thus created a feeling that the room is narrow. Pavilion home somehow resolve this by creating more windows on side. In short, a normal terrace house will only have 2 side that have windows, but a pavilion home, it has 3 side that have windows.
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After a long discussion, we are back to the same discussion HAHAHAHAHA! Semi D vs conventional Terrace Home.

Eco Ardence have side window because is NOT a link home, is Semi D 'inspired' (dont want to be shoot so called it inspired). It is 1 side party wall, 1 side land.

Typical terrace how to have side window when it is LINKED from party wall to party wall. If you have side window, you are seeing through your neighbour wall already isnt.

Nvm, i pun tired explain hahahahah !!

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