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 Choosing Life Insurance, Advice Please!!!

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nicholas84
post Apr 17 2007, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 16 2007, 01:25 AM)
Arsenal,

You have to survive  until retirement age first.  Do not put the cart before the horse. 

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when he's retired at 55, there's so limited amount of plans he can buy plus the premiums will be darn high


Added on April 17, 2007, 11:39 am
QUOTE(Gen-X @ Apr 16 2007, 08:54 PM)
(i) How long do you think you live? Age 75 or 100? Most medical insurance cover you up to 65 to 75. But i saw an ad recently, Great Eastern got a medical policy that covers up to 100 years old!

(ii)Since your company providing it now, forget about getting another medical insurance for now and instead use that money to invest.
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i)Can you afford premium of 100 years old? Medical insurance premium at age 70 is enough to kill ur retirement fund

ii)insurance that companies provide are always at a very minimum cost, which means the coverage is very little, with the rising medical cost every year, i think better have a contingency plan, isn't getting a good medical coverage a form of investment?


Added on April 17, 2007, 11:53 am
QUOTE(Aggronax @ Mar 29 2007, 01:58 AM)
yeah ~ tumpang ask all expert here.

If director take life insurance, pay by company under account  'expenses'

> 'Benefit' can lower our income tax?
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medical insurance is eligible for medical tax relief of maximum RM3000
so if under company account, no personal tax relief lo


Added on April 17, 2007, 11:54 am
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 29 2007, 09:57 PM)
The proper advice is DO NOT BUY that kind of insurance to begin with.

Do not buy insurance with premium level that you cannot afford to pay.

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true
don't commit to something that you can't afford
pioritize your goals first


Added on April 17, 2007, 11:59 am
QUOTE(Argiope @ Mar 29 2007, 04:00 PM)
I had signed up a plan with Great Eastern. The agent (old man) is my mum's friend. I have already paid for 2 years, now coming to the 3rd year.

Insurred amount: RM100k
Premium: RM2576 / year (if pay monthly they will charge interest  blush.gif )
Signed up age: 22

Remarks:
- No medical card
- Pay for 17 years then I don't have to pay anymore

I've asked my friends and they said that this scheme is still the old-fashioned type, probably cos he's an old man ._.

Can you guys give me opinion whether this is a good scheme? Cos my due date is end of April. If it's not good, I would like to cut off this insurance... But can I still take back portions of my RM2576 x 2 yrs?  sad.gif

The premium that most of my friends are paying range from RM150-RM200 per month only... After comparison, mine is really  cry.gif

Opinions please~~  notworthy.gif
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hi argiope
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nicholas84
post Apr 18 2007, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 17 2007, 08:29 PM)
1) Another insurance agent.  I wish that I could meet some insurance agent that really service their customer as opposed to ONLY SELLING.

2) This is a young person.  And, he / she has medical coverage now.  Granted, the coverage may not be high but the possibility of a young person getting seriously sick is low.

3)  A person need to survive financially until 55 before we can talk about retirement.

4) Even at 55, if a person do not have enough money to eat, we do not need to talk about getting sick.

5) If you are a good insurance agent, you would have advise the person to save money for emergency fund first.  When a person is unemployed, you are NOT going to help him.

Running out of money, unemployed, are more likely to happen in life than getting sick at young age.  Protected the most common problem fist.  Especially, if you have some coverage form work.

At 55, you will not be looking for medical insurance anyhow.  What you want is critical illness protection.

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1)in which sentence you notice that anyone is selling? It's merely underwriting fact

2)So you're saying, wait until sick only buy? isn't that too late?

3)True, but if no plan for retirement lagi tak payah harap to retire, so what if we live to 55? continue to work? beg for money? Do we realy want to rely on our children to provide for us? Parents had headstart in financial built, children hasn't, to support us, they burden themselves a lot especially with rising cost of living

4)That is why retirement planning is important

5)Emergency fund is necessary for at least 3-6 months of their monthly income, that is if they're healthy, as long anyone is healthy they have no problem getting a job unless they have attitude problem, therefore if your're jobless and currently having a high coverage, downgrade it to lower one but do not completely delete it, being hospitalized during unemployment is the worst

In my experience, running out of job is the least things to happen in someone's life, if we're constantly facing this problem, i think we need to reflect upon ourselves.

So when you're unemployed, does the company coverage still covers?

Critical illness strike a person from infant stage up till old age, at age 55, let say kena cancer, so while waiting for the doctor to produce the report to file claim to insurance company, we use our own hard earned money which is meant for retirement to pay for hospital bills?


Added on April 18, 2007, 12:35 am
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 17 2007, 11:41 PM)
Is it guaranteed or not?

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projected return is never guaranteed

This post has been edited by nicholas84: Apr 18 2007, 12:35 AM
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post Apr 18 2007, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 18 2007, 12:49 AM)
nicholas84,

<<In my experience, running out of job is the least things to happen in someone's life, if we're constantly facing this problem, i think we need to reflect upon ourselves>>

1) Since you are bornt in 1984, pardon us if we do not count on your experience.  You have not face a recession while working yet.

<<being hospitalized during unemployment is the worst>>

2) Without money, you can be healthy but starve to death.

<<Emergency fund is necessary for at least 3-6 months of their monthly income, >>

3) If you are NOT focus on selling insurance, you would have say this FIRST before advising anyone to buy insurance.

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1)don't experience told by our fore fathers counts? don't it count as exp when my dad lost his job as a manager is a well known textile factory? and how he lost his job again in a auditor firm? When he lost his job, all siblings has to stop college a while to work full time to support family, doesn't that count as exp? i may be young but i know what i've gone thru

2)Are we seriously spending 80% of your salary on insurance premium? no rite? normally is only 10%, how can we be starving?

3)I thought that is general knowledge? pardon me for assuming
nicholas84
post Apr 18 2007, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 18 2007, 02:27 AM)
nicholas84,

1) So, how much savings do your parents has?? Or, they only buy life insurance? How long did he lost his job?/ How long it take him to find a new job?

2) You are very inexperienced.  Do a survey around lowyat.net?? There are plenty of young people with NO SAVINGS but buy a lot of life insurance.  Or, their only saving is life insurance.

3) No, it is NOT COMMON KNOWLEDGE.  Saving money does not earn any commission for anybody.  So, there are insurance agents that  push people to buy life insurance even though their customer have NO SAVINGS.

ASSUME -> Make an ASS out of U and ME = ASSUME

Dreamer


Added on April 18, 2007, 3:35 amhttp://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/AssessYourNeeds/InsuranceForTheYoungAndSingle.aspx

A good article explaining about the kind of insurance that you need for the young and single.

Please note that this is for USA where medical cost is high.  For Malaysia, instead of health insurance with high deductible, you probably are looking for critical illness insurance with high deductible.

Furthermore, in Malaysia, you have less choices.  You probably will be buying life insurance with disability protection.  There is NO PURE disability insurance.

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1)he lost his job for almost half a year, yes he had emergency funds and all of us went out to work to slow down the fund depletion process and yes he has coverage for life, critical illness and hospital, during that period he maintain his protection and cancel all ours

2)i'm aware about that, but i don think you can blame insurance for this, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that emergency cash flow is always needed, anyway is only a handful of this kind of people who fail to pioritize and plan

3)it think it is, saving money has been taught since young by our parents, i don expect to walk into a restaurant and expect the chef to teach me how to use a fork

pardon me, but can you explain more detailed about no pure disability insurance?

 

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