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post Jun 23 2020, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(7498 @ Jun 23 2020, 11:22 AM)
Hi, I am new to Rakuten Trade and share investment.

I bought some shares under contra account this morning. Do I need to pick up shares if I have enough money in my contra account for my purchase? I can see my shares under "Outstanding" tab but there is no pick up button.
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It will only appear after end of the trading day. Check tomorrow to pickup the stock.
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post Jun 23 2020, 03:38 PM

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Why today RT keep session time out ya? Normally I would only face 1 time during lunch need relogin hmm.gif
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post Jun 24 2020, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Jun 24 2020, 12:00 AM)
May I confirm whether my understanding on RT contra account is correct?

I saw the FnQ mentioned that cash is 100% collateral in contra account, is it mean that we can place order using just enough cash, rather than we need to have 30% buffer using cash account?

Once the order using contra account has been matched, then we need to do some setting to top up the cash that being collaterised in contra account within 2 days, otherwise RT will sell the stock.

Is it compulsory to use multiplier in contra account? It allows unit holder to buy more stock if currently they do not have sufficient money, just top up the money within 2 days. The multiplier is based on the allowable multiplier value stated in the respective stock. The amount that the unit holder can place order using multiplier is based on the cash value already in the contra account and the allowable multiplier value.
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Why do you need 30% buffer for cash account?

Cash and paid shares determine your collateral value. The share you buying will have a multiplier of 1x 3x 5x depending on the counter itself. Paid shares depending on type of counter have different collateral value. You can find more on this info from their website. You can have 0 cash but holding a few paid shares and still make purchase on multiplier as those shares also count towards collateral. In case you never top up for stock pick up, RT has the rights to sell the contra shares and even sell your paid shares to cover if the contra is at loss.
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post Jul 2 2020, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(E.Coli @ Jul 2 2020, 11:45 PM)
How to pickup purchased stock on contra account?
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Go to "My Account" -> "Contra" -> "Outstanding" -> "Pickup Stock"
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post Aug 5 2020, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Aug 4 2020, 10:28 AM)
just realized i have potential 10k profits just bye bye this morning

have 5000 lot share queuing for sell at 0.01, then this morning it shoot up to 0.02, now it's 0.03

thanks to rakuten shitty server, i can't go in in time to adjust my selling price doh.gif mad.gif
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Since you already wanted to earn just 5000, the extra 5000 and 10000 just forego bah haha. There's no looking back one la.
If look back, my initial capital RM12k my missed profit maybe RM30k.

Once upon a time, I held Careplus 0.89, HLT Mother 0.615 Son 0.31, Comfort 1.9, Supermax 3 & 4.52, Rubberex 1.08 & Esceram 0.395

Some 5 lot some 10 lot some 20 lot. Pity all sold toooooo early. Experienced rakuten problem during one of the gloves sell down in May before d. That's when I sold most of my holdings at that time and now regret kaw kaw. Rakuten at least still can sell that time. Now is go in queue won't even acknowledge haha
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post Aug 5 2020, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Aug 5 2020, 05:19 PM)
Guys, is there something wrong with Rakuten?

I bought careplus and my average price was RM5.11 just now . I did the calculation and average price was indeed 5.11

Suddenly its showing my average price now is RM5.32.
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Heard people say if you sold intraday will have this issue. I never noticed thou gh.
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post Aug 10 2020, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Gold_Moderator @ Aug 10 2020, 09:29 AM)
Wonder What they upgrade system? Install screen protector ?
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Just a system restart maybe.
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post Aug 10 2020, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(adren1 @ Aug 10 2020, 06:26 PM)
brows.gif  the website doing okay now I guess
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You sure about that? Haha...
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post Sep 7 2020, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(sohailili @ Sep 7 2020, 09:00 AM)
you guys saw new rakuten subscription feature? hahahaha.. i guess its really goodbye this round.

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Just do a trade and you get it d mah. Also it cost only RM2 if you don't want to do any trade. If i remember correctly la. Lazy to read at all hahahaha
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post Sep 12 2020, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Sep 12 2020, 08:50 AM)
Anyone knows why when I key in 12 lots rakuten reject my sell? Seems like 1 to 10 is fine, but numbers like 11, 13, 14,etc.. Gets rejected
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12 lot or 12 units?

Weird hmm
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post Sep 15 2020, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(alyem @ Sep 15 2020, 11:44 AM)
That's means I can't choose
3/8 - 200 @ 2.00
14/8 - 100 @ 2.50
@ average 2.17 selling 2.75
Making profit @ 0.58 per lot

Holding back  6/8 - 200 @ 4.00
28/8 - 100 @ 2.80
Average back to 300 @ 3.60
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biggrin.gif You can do that mentally but technically the system will help you calculate your average price so if you sell above the average price then you're actually making money.
The shares come from the same cup/plate so technically it doesn't matter what's your buy price of each share. You can do that calculation with apps like klse screener but it's just a standalone app. In the portfolio feature, you can set which lot to sell from when you add a sell transaction. You can view there but to brokers, they don't really care which one you're selling.

A bit OBD haha
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post Sep 17 2020, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(smurf2002 @ Sep 17 2020, 03:42 PM)
New to Contra Trading.
I've purchased a stock on Tues, and sold it today. Is there something that I still need to do ? Both BUY & SELL lines of the stock still appearing in the Pick Up page (with BUY / SELL option). Do I need I click BUY and SELL for each line or it will contra off each other ?
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No need as long as you sold it off. If you sell half half then I'm not sure laugh.gif
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post Sep 27 2020, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(p0ser @ Sep 26 2020, 02:13 PM)
I managed to figure out that the average price of 1.23 is from the nett amount after adding brokerage fee, stamp duty, clearing fee and SST.

Previously, I used Kenanga I do not face such issue. I can calculate all transactions manually and accurately. Using Rakuten is very unpredictable. It is because of Kenanga's high brokerage fee, I opted for a different securities firm.
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It's not really an issue right? Rakuten just factor in all the charges for you haha
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post Sep 30 2020, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 29 2020, 06:56 PM)
hi ,

want to ask abut the contra account and the rebate it means:
https://www.rakutentrade.my/fees

if i pump in 5k in contra account. use top glove as example.
1. contra allow be to trade up to 5 times my limit (if i understand correctly), means i can buy up to rm25k of share

2. so i can buy 3000 unit top glove share (consider is rm8.00), total spend will be rm24k + rm9 +sst etc. ( am i correct?

3. right in the afternoon top glove up to rm8.30, i sell all. and i learn the balance.

what rebate i will get? the 1 time rm9 brokerage fees?
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Based on my understanding, it will be 0.1% because when your order exceeds 10k, the brokerage is 0.1% rather than RM9. Never traded that big sum need others to confirm for you though.
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post Oct 5 2020, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Oct 5 2020, 02:55 PM)
u can prepare to apply for other brokers and opt out
Rakuiten = nominee CDS, ya off course u have gotten ur passport to trade

mau maybank? open another CDS lor..
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Rakuten now ok d. Maybe because most people go back to work d haven't encounter hang in the past few weeks.
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post Nov 11 2020, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(TruboXL @ Nov 10 2020, 03:22 PM)
I think we have an official rep here...
pinging Rakuten Trade, please fix the issue
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I think the issue is that after pressing sort by %, if the share price changes and the % changes, it won't be auto sorted. It will remain in the previous sorted position laugh.gif
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post Nov 22 2020, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Nov 21 2020, 03:40 PM)
where can I see pre open market price ?
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If I'm not wrong, for Malaysia, you can only see what's the market depth pre-open. There isn't a window for fixing the pre-market price. In SG, about 3-5 mins before market starts trading, it will fix a price for opening but in Malaysia, the price is determined based on the algorithm at open. Then got people always queue large block at very low price (sell) or very high price (buy) in order to match the market price at open. Not sure if I'm 100% correct. Below link is the algorithm from bursa to determine open price.

https://www.bursamalaysia.com/sites/5bb54be...Price__TOP_.pdf
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post Dec 1 2020, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(penanghomes @ Nov 30 2020, 04:44 PM)
I sold some shares on Friday 27th Nov, up todate the cash history not yet updated ?  How long to wait to be reflected in my account ?
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I think is T+2. Not entirely sure.
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post Jan 21 2021, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(jazzkobis @ Jan 21 2021, 09:40 PM)
Anyone knows how to disable the session time out thing? So annoying have to log in every time
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That's one of their trick to keep the server under load I guess. Disconnecting inactive session then less stress on server.
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post Feb 2 2021, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 2 2021, 03:26 PM)
ok, just now RT email and say have to provide bank statement. But in the link itself no button to submit 🤣 so have to email them back.. did it  & now waiting, hope all good for account creation
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Why so much hassle. Mine opened over the weekend just like 2 days (non working day). Monday morning received email say account opened successfully. That's also during 2020 April when tonnes of people flock to open account with them haha

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