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> how sure ur oil filter is original?, factory raided, operating since 90

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post Mar 19 2007, 10:34 PM


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just now in the tv3 8pm news.
showed a factory producing fake toyota, honda, perodua, proton, etc etc. oil filter complete with hologram n box !
the factory been operating since 1990+ and believe capable of producing millions of oil filter a year.
damn !! i have doubt on my oil filter bought at spare parts shop and also at dealer service centre. next time will buy straight at main service centre and dont car price is 100% more ! wat to do cry.gif
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post Mar 19 2007, 10:53 PM


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links to the news so that we can have more details ?

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post Mar 19 2007, 11:03 PM


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is on tv3 8pm news wooor
maybe will come out tomolo newspaper.
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post Mar 19 2007, 11:28 PM


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ah ok ok, actually quite an interesting news to look forward to...
thanks for the heads up
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post Mar 19 2007, 11:41 PM


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not only oil filter...air filter... even engine oil...

I can tell u about the engine oil...

I did bring the "fake" one to the distributor, even themself

can't differentiate it.
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post Mar 20 2007, 12:19 AM


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Been using BOSCH air and oil filters, not sure whether there are fakes for those. But stuff like UMW, perodua, has been pirated for ages. Mechanics should be happy with these, since they can get more business.
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post Mar 20 2007, 12:20 AM


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the filters that i sell at my shop comes from proton parts centre...........unless there are fakes there too..............
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post Mar 20 2007, 12:28 AM


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recently I changed my oil filter which is Bosch brand, dunno fake or not also...
Last time it was Proton oil filter
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post Mar 20 2007, 12:37 AM


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As long as it's compatible and working, I don't mind. Well using a nissan oil filter, not sure whether it's original or not too. laugh.gif
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post Mar 20 2007, 12:41 AM


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That's why i'm not using local cars like Proton & Perodua plus oversea cars like Toyota & Honda
their sparepart are easily can be produce anywhere

different with Korean cars, they do not authorise any local factory to produce their sparepart
it's better to keep it that way and i don't mind paying more for genuine parts

No wonder koreans cars sparepart are expensive than Honda & Toyota...
As a user/customer we should known better when the sparepart price is cheaper than other cars like Korean cars for example...
there must be something wrong with it...

and now we knew about it....
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post Mar 20 2007, 12:43 AM


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bosch all the way, unless eneos are using these fake filters too.
time to change to HKS gold leaf, anyone?
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post Mar 20 2007, 03:44 AM


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the best orignal oil shoudl be projet conoco one ... becasue no fakes around .
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post Mar 20 2007, 08:27 AM


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no wonder our cars nowadays has short living terms
i still remember my father's car old Toyota
he used it for nearly 30 years, still going strong n stabil
until it burnt by some idiot & psycho

the thing is, new car with fake sparepart made our car life span shorter than ever
especially Proton car... *sigh* Malaysia Boleh
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post Mar 20 2007, 09:09 AM


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Actually not only that. All the brake oil, gear oil, etc, they all come in bulk. I wonder whether all this oil is recycled. If next time u wanna change all this oil, please ask for branded one. If they tell u they come in big oil tank, then u know its crappy tongue.gif
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post Mar 20 2007, 09:42 AM


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not really. reputable single brand workshops store their gear oil in a large tank

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post Mar 20 2007, 09:56 AM


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Fake spare parts seized

By LOONG MENG YEE

KLANG: Two men were about to sign the documents to buy over a factory manufacturing oil filters when a team of enforcement officers from the Domestic Trade and Consumers Affairs Ministry rushed into the premises.

The two potential buyers were shocked when told that the factory they wanted to buy was suspected to be the production centre for fake oil and air filters.

The factory on Jalan Seruling 59 here was believed to have been producing counterfeit oil and air filters of major brands such as Proton, Honda and Toyota.

A source said the factory had a valid licence to produce oil and air filters, but the products were to be manufactured under its house brand and not the brands of other companies.

The factory had been in existence since the 1990s and had changed owners several times.

"This is typical of such outfits. They change hands every few years," said the source.

It was believed the factory sold the fake oil and air filters to local spare part dealers at about RM3 per piece compared to RM10 for the original components.

The fake products are made to look authentic, complete with the brand names of popular car companies and hologram stickers.

The raid yesterday was conducted by the team of 12 officers, headed by assistant director Rosley Abdullah, from the ministry's special task force for trade description in Putrajaya. There were 25 workers in the factory then.

Two supervisors at the factory were detained for questioning.

The factory has 18 machines worth more than RM10mil and about RM400,000 worth of spare parts.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...5142&sec=nation
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post Mar 20 2007, 12:02 PM


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Normally, fake spareparts came from local factory which is the authorised factory gave their authority to other factory to make the sparepart illegally...
So far lots of local factory that can make saprepart for other cars sparepart
that's y proton, perodua, toyota & honda involved in this matter
i doubt other car sparepart not involve in this matter even KIA spareparts nowadays already have fake spareparts

One shop in Sg Petani gave me local engine mounting to my KIA Spectra but lucky to me coz the sparepart working ok, so far so goodlah
No wonder KIA do not authorise any local factory to make their sparepart locally
and KIA/Hyundai owners have to pay extra for original sparepart from Korea
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post Mar 20 2007, 12:19 PM


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QUOTE(kev da man @ Mar 20 2007, 09:42 AM)
not really. reputable single brand workshops store their gear oil in a large tank
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why they want to do that? its because its cheaper lar. all this large tank stuff means they buy cheap. maybe all these all is recycled one.
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post Mar 20 2007, 01:09 PM


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Not sure bout this news but for Proton drivers, becareful when u're looking for Mitsubishi's part as there are hell lots of imitation parts out there...
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post Mar 20 2007, 01:17 PM


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Normal la. If u dun wan kena chop, please go to a authorised service center. We can skimp on pirated cds, but not our car. To our car, genuine product always matter.
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post Mar 20 2007, 01:39 PM


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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 20 2007, 12:19 PM)
why they want to do that? its because its cheaper lar. all this large tank stuff means they buy cheap. maybe all these all is recycled one.
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and how do you know whether the fluid in the tank is recycled or not? that's like making a claim that pigs can fly.

i've seen them refilling those same barrels with castrol gear oil that was sealed beforehand - and i'm talking about those pump barrels where you pump your gearbox oil into the gearbox, not by using an elcheapo funnel laugh.gif


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QUOTE(redken @ Mar 20 2007, 01:17 PM)
Normal la. If u dun wan kena chop, please go to a authorised service center. We can skimp on pirated cds, but not our car. To our car, genuine product always matter.
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i beg to differ - some perodua SC i know are using 'OEM' products. like the one in SS14 shakehead.gif and yet we're paying full price for the service...

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post Mar 20 2007, 01:51 PM


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QUOTE(kev da man @ Mar 20 2007, 01:39 PM)
and how do you know whether the fluid in the tank is recycled or not? that's like making a claim that pigs can fly.

i've seen them refilling those same barrels with castrol gear oil that was sealed beforehand - and i'm talking about those pump barrels where you pump your gearbox oil into the gearbox, not by using an elcheapo funnel laugh.gif


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i beg to differ - some perodua SC i know are using 'OEM' products. like the one in SS14 shakehead.gif and yet we're paying full price for the service...
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But still u are protected under warranty o. Just fire away.
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post Mar 20 2007, 02:24 PM


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QUOTE(kev da man @ Mar 20 2007, 01:39 PM)
and how do you know whether the fluid in the tank is recycled or not? that's like making a claim that pigs can fly.
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and how u know that all the shop is not recycled? tongue.gif
don't u feel good if they opened the sealed oil infront of you?
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post Mar 20 2007, 02:44 PM


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QUOTE(redken @ Mar 20 2007, 01:51 PM)
But still u are protected under warranty o. Just fire away.
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yea, when the brake fail and BANG, u died !! how u to fire them away?
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QUOTE(ulet @ Mar 20 2007, 02:44 PM)
yea, when the brake fail and BANG, u died !! how u to fire them away?
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visit them when the hell door open during Cheng Beng tongue.gif
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QUOTE(redken @ Mar 20 2007, 01:51 PM)
But still u are protected under warranty o. Just fire away.
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that's true, but the ramifications will only happen in the long run, i.e. after your warranty period wink.gif

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 20 2007, 02:24 PM)
and how u know that all the shop is not recycled? tongue.gif
don't u feel good if they opened the sealed oil infront of you?
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hehe that's why i rather pay a bit more for a reputable shop, not like those bawah pokok stuff - unless im doiung bawah pokok mods la, if you know what i mean tongue.gif

oh yeah, opening a virgin bottle of oil - yum yum wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
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post Mar 20 2007, 04:22 PM


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I used original perodua oil from sc.. but oil filter and air filter from spare part shop...
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QUOTE(stormchaser @ Mar 20 2007, 04:22 PM)
I used original perodua oil from sc.. but oil filter and air filter from spare part shop...
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Castrol is known for rampant recycled oils. Dun take risk ba. Anyway, where to find Mobil Fully Synthetic Extra a? The 10K KM edition?
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post Mar 21 2007, 08:10 PM


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QUOTE(redken @ Mar 21 2007, 08:03 PM)
Castrol is known for rampant recycled oils. Dun take risk ba. Anyway, where to find Mobil Fully Synthetic Extra a? The 10K KM edition?
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not 10k km! it is 15 000miles or 24 000Kms !
so far dont have in msia and sumtime carerrfour sell mobil but the old version, not the EP version.
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QUOTE(redken @ Mar 21 2007, 08:03 PM)
Castrol is known for rampant recycled oils. Dun take risk ba. Anyway, where to find Mobil Fully Synthetic Extra a? The 10K KM edition?
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RM38/= with free gifts.Sound good to be true brows.gif
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post Sep 10 2008, 09:51 AM


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Sorry to bring up an old thread.

Few days back I sent my car into factory for repair (claim insurance).
Is there way to find out whether they replace the parts in the car or not? From original to imitate.

They are the panel for the insurance, that's why send the car there.
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