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TSengrfeez
post May 7 2017, 12:54 PM, updated 9y ago

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Hi All,

Please tell me what is your push factor to pursue study at the higher level?

To be frank, I am dilemma to further study or continue with the current job career. I have Master in Engineering when I was doing it part time in 5 years back. I also working with engineering environment more than 10 years already.

Recently, some of my friends told me that better to further study till PHD and complete the education cycle, however looking at our education system and management I don't feel it is a good choice to further. The numbers of jobless and fresh graduate are keep increasing. The salary either Bsc, Msc or PHD are not compatible with the current life where all the price are hikes and sooner will be more high.

Basically what is drive you to study on the higher level?

1) Because to secure the job career
2) Salary factor
3) Satisfaction
4) Migrate to other country
5) or it is own dream to teach people or passion in endless learning curve.

As i know everyone have own dream and desire, so would you like to share your thoughts or opinion.

Thanks

This post has been edited by engrfeez: May 7 2017, 12:58 PM
TSengrfeez
post May 8 2017, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Subang Nuclear Reactor @ May 7 2017, 10:38 PM)
How about all of them. I was like you, graduated with a master of engineering. Right after i completed the master, everyone around me is telling me to progress into PhD. But at that time, i was really curious about job life, i ended up ignore all of them, even had an argument with my parents, i found a job, and i worked for a year

Now that i realised, working in Malaysia isn't really what i want (even though i'm transferred to Australia later), and master will not get me any further than a bachelor. I dont want an endless and repetitive life working on something i have no passion in a consultant firm. I decided to quit my job on 30th April. Now i am on a holiday, and preparing myself for the PhD, working or researching on a title/ topic that i liked.

So.. yeah. Basically everything you wrote, self-satisfaction, job-prospects, easy PR, family pressure.
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Thanks bro for the sharing, good to hear that finally u pursue your higher level education. Good luck and all the best
TSengrfeez
post May 10 2017, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(less1234 @ May 9 2017, 09:33 AM)
Your friends are correct in the sense that a M.ENG does not make you more attractive than a B.ENG in the context of Malaysia industry.

1) Overall I think when you are going for PhD, you opening the option for academia. If you have 10 years job experience and a PhD, I think many universities would want to hire you. Even better if you are an IR already
2) Quote from a lecturer that I know : "Getting a PhD will not make you rich"
3) Being a lecturer provided me with flexi hour and alot of time for myself and family. Some people may opt for more work to improve career prospect and publications. At the end of the day, it depends on what you want.
4) Not really, my parents and family always come first
5) I m a mentor in heart. =)
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Thanks less1234 for sharing some inputs, indeed end of the day it is depends on what we want not what others want.


TSengrfeez
post May 10 2017, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ May 9 2017, 11:55 PM)
I did my phD in Biotechnology  laugh.gif Sometimes I also wonder why I opted to further my studies, but to me its definitely worth it laugh.gif
1. As mentioned by less1234, doing a phD will likely and eventually land you a job in academia. No doubt competition is getting stiff nowadays but its not really difficult if you have a good resume and (more importantly) good connections.

2. I admit salary was an important factor for me when I decided to pursue my phD. The pay is considered as above average but if you are really into money, doing business is a much better option.

3. Not everyone is capable of getting a phD, so being able to obtain the "Dr." title would mean alot to some. I myself never think much of the title; the experiences gained during the period were way, way more important.

4. I think that Malaysia is a good place to be in since the bright and brilliant has already left the country laugh.gif Its so easy to shine here  laugh.gif Plus I will miss Nasi Lemak and Teh Ice if I ever leave haha

5. I'm very interested in research but as a lecturer I find very little time to do research, which is a shame (not sure how I'm going to fulfill my grants lol). Although I enjoy teaching I think its quite sad that not many appreciate what they're being taught  sweat.gif

I am always learning and I hope some day I will be able to commercialize my research, and hopefully learn a bit more about the business side of things, rather than always looking at Science  laugh.gif
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1. Good to hear PF T.J. Surprising academia also need connection. I thought the more intelligent the more you will selected. tongue.gif

2. Above average sound good and acceptable as well

I think we need more people like you those who sincerely teaching rather than thinking about the accreditation or credit. But again being in academia must be a though as the community are always have perception on the intelligence course.
TSengrfeez
post May 11 2017, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ May 10 2017, 08:26 PM)
I'm afraid connection has a lot to do with everything. Even publications are so much easier when people know you in your field laugh.gif Initially I wanted to "prove myself" and achieve my goals "on my own" and it turned out to be quite a disaster laugh.gif As for the "more intelligent the more you will be selected" part, it only applies if you are a genius haha laugh.gif

Yeah, you are right, academicians (especially primary/secondary school teachers) are often misunderstood by the general mass, which is sadly the result when people put dollars and cents as a priority in life  hmm.gif
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Connection and competent are always long debate issue. I do agree if connection can be use once the competent person had been verified. But I couldn't agree if the connection is use more than competencies. I was in working industry where I can see clearly the two chapter between connection and competencies.

Dollar and cent is like a 'King' nowadays. Regardless how good and intelligent you are if don't have money consider stupid as well. How cruel and unbalance the world we are living now? bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
TSengrfeez
post May 11 2017, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 11 2017, 10:57 AM)
From the industry, I switched to academia many years ago.

So, the best way to climb up in academia is by having a PhD. I can say the pay rise is quite sizeable between those with and without a PhD.

Besides that, I also have an interest on doing a research in organisational behaviour.

The Dr title is not my major concern at all. For me, it is not even a reason to do it.

To sum up, my reasons are career development, salary factor, and interest.
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I still in doubt to switch my careers. The only concern I have to re-consider is my own time

As child has being grow up, I need to spent more time looks up for their development of study and behavior. I am not sure being an academia have independent time or same as my current industry working hours 7am-7pm and also I need to travel and stay long at certain state depending the nature of the project.





 

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