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miyakochan89
post Sep 7 2024, 08:42 AM

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Just curious, are there actually any women biker group around? Can introduce? Cause I feel like it’s something that I have always wanted to learn and ride my whole life and if I don’t do it, I think I’m going to regret it for not doing it later in my life. So I wanna start somewhere…
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post Sep 8 2024, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Sep 7 2024, 12:57 PM)
u want to start? or already riding?
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Want to start…
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post Sep 10 2024, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(marsha1l @ Sep 10 2024, 03:23 PM)
as a fresh B full student (pass July 2024).

My previous group has 3-4 lady rider straight go for B full.

Getting L with D is quite easy, either DIY or pay the driving academy for L license (Paid and received in app within 2 working day)

I would suggest go for Bfull straight and find good used bike , dominar d400 to start with (v1 can get less than 6k).

Certain driving academy has long waiting list for b2. My place, Rakan Ehsan (~RM900 all in, including L lesen and update JPJ for Bfull once pass the test), every session has more than 10 student for b2 but <5 for bfull. So within a month, I'm able to attend JPJ test without waiting list.
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Wow I didn’t know taking licenses also need to queue these days? Hahaha… I just wanna enjoy the ride, not like ride and die kinda thing. Getting L license I can just practice on my own is it?
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post Oct 5 2024, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Sep 8 2024, 05:37 PM)
now easier to start
u can start with smaller cc bike
later auto upgrade to B Full after 10 years i think

option A
str8 get a BFULL license
this is what i do because i love bikes
been watching the race and my pakcik and some other old guy already using big bike since im in elementary school
option B
get B2 license later 10 years upgrade
this is the easier route since u dont have a basic riding skills
and to jump into big bike scene = can result injury or worst vege ( death is easier ) lol

even tho i get a bfull license
i start with a scooter > cubchai > 250 > 1000cc > and many more bikes

any how get a learner license = L at your nearest driving school
u can buy a used 250 bike for learning with the L license
with this option if u feel not going to ride any more u save alot of money

btw where do u stay? we can recommend trusted workshop
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QUOTE(marsha1l @ Sep 10 2024, 03:23 PM)
as a fresh B full student (pass July 2024).

My previous group has 3-4 lady rider straight go for B full.

Getting L with D is quite easy, either DIY or pay the driving academy for L license (Paid and received in app within 2 working day)

I would suggest go for Bfull straight and find good used bike , dominar d400 to start with (v1 can get less than 6k).

Certain driving academy has long waiting list for b2. My place, Rakan Ehsan (~RM900 all in, including L lesen and update JPJ for Bfull once pass the test), every session has more than 10 student for b2 but <5 for bfull. So within a month, I'm able to attend JPJ test without waiting list.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 10 2024, 03:39 PM)
wow, surprise seeing you here! wub.gif
only certain driving schools since B2 Kapchai are always in high demand.

if a location is full, you may survey another location that's convenient to where you're staying
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I just came back from Vietnam (for leisure travel) and I have decided to get a motor license. It's just easier if I could rent a bike somewhere and travel especially in SEA. If I go for BFull, is it going to be difficult? The bike is also heavier right with bigger CC? I see a lot of those scooter (like Yamaha XMAX 250), are those easy to ride vs kapchai? I am used to bicycle, my only concern with motorcycle is definitely safety but I don't plan to speed lah. Nor travel around KL a lot with bike. Thinking to just start with a scooter? Vespa is cute but i heard it's expensive stuffs. And then ride to gym or tapau food only. Hahaha!

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post Oct 5 2024, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 5 2024, 04:29 PM)
Heavier , yes. However with correct methods, maybe not too much difficult
Incorrect methods, even a strong guy would struggle lifting 150-200kg sweat.gif

Scooters are generally easier because automatic CVT, that's about it
Kapchai generally still got gearing, albeit no need clutch. Centrifugal clutch automated the process for you.

Forget what you're familiar with bicycle, and just treat motorcycles scooters etc an entirely separate thing.

And as I've always tell everyone, you don't speed, there are many others very willing to speed. They can crash into you. nod.gif
Think about it.
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lol so what can I do?
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post Oct 5 2024, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 5 2024, 07:15 PM)
Please be specific what you're referring to?

Or I guess "you can do it!", "just do it"?
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The danger part lo...
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post Oct 5 2024, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Oct 5 2024, 05:34 PM)
I had no bike license and never rode a bike my entire life of nearly half century.

3 years ago I decide to check off this mid life crisis and go for it. I took Full B.

I have height advantage at 182cm.

I had also spent more time at learning school to practice, that’s on top of the compulsory hours. I keep going back at weekends to practice before my exam.

Those practice days with heavy bikes made me realize what I should get after I got my license. Scooter.

Advantage of full B at learning school is number of learners are just a handful to compete with the available bike at learning school.

Don’t be afraid to fail and had to retake. Count this as blessing so you can clock more hours of practice. Every hour of learning you will gain more sense with riding and contribute to your safety awareness.

Just go do it and don’t think so much.
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I am pretty short. Only at 156CM. Is full B with the heavy bike a bit too much?
Even if i take B2, i can still practice on my own right if i have my own bike?
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post Oct 7 2024, 10:51 AM

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OK, let me fuck it and check with driving school asap~!
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post Oct 7 2024, 10:52 AM

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Any recommended one near PJ area or not? Damansara area? Apart from Metro Driving Academy....
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post Oct 7 2024, 10:56 AM

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I took my own driving license here like almost 20 years ago..
So I think this is the best and more reputable one?
https://metrodriving.com.my/en/sign-up-here/

I am actually feeling excited, maybe not to drive around KL cause it's so dangerous, and I have a car to maintain so having a bike could be a burden but the fact I could travel to islands or SEA area and actually able to rent a scooter! WOO HOO!
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post Oct 7 2024, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(carbon14 @ Oct 7 2024, 01:39 PM)
I did the mistake of not checking my local driving school properly and registered for a B2 when I should have done B full. Don’t me an idiot like me and pay 2 times.

Just get the B full. Practice with a second hand ‘large’ 250cc bike or even a 400ish Dominar. Go for neutral riding bikes like scramblers, cafe racers, nakeds or even adventure bikes if you’re tall. I’m regretting I bought a 250cc bike now that I feel I want a more larger and heavier steady bike on highways.

I just passed by B2 and I’m going B full next month provided the center isn’t clogged full of those transition riders.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 7 2024, 01:52 PM)
I think, worry less about maintenance... more about riding safety, and then add riding protection
protection (gears) do not equal safety (awareness, techniques, mindful)
- kinda like saying one can ride safely without a helmet
- but wearing a full gear doesn't mean he's a safe rider

as a newbie, pay more attention to the road
- my personal recommendation, don't use anything that you feel can distract your attention
- example, listening to audio, comm systems, nav systems etc... or even water bottle
- always keep both eyes on the road, and both hands on the handlebars
- if you're lost, stop by safely and check maps

on a new bike, it's unfamiliar to you, get a voltmeter and that's about it, and learn to ride it
adding a new protective gear need getting used to as well - new boots, gloves, earplugs etc
- many riders unable to feel the foot brake and gear lever with new boots, and some riders got the boot catching on the footpeg and fell

riding a motorcycle has a lot to think about
and if possible, get a good riding buddy which is something money cannot buy
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I do have my worries but i don't think i will transition to such huge bike lah. I dont even know if i could ride well with the practice bike in school lah wei even though I wanna take BFull bike. HOW LAH!

Anyways, please recommend me driving school!
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post Oct 9 2024, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Oct 8 2024, 09:57 PM)
If you are scared of being first timer in handling big bikes, try searching hafiq azmi riding schools.
They have beginner class that can help you before going to riding school.
Riding school usually won't hold your hands or give personal lesson going through the course so this might help.
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Oct 9 2024, 08:44 AM)
haha train kat sgk terus area parking lot tu
kalau jatuh dia x marah dont worry
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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 9 2024, 10:36 AM)
I am not at where you are, so let others recommend

a hooligan phrase for you: if in doubt, just pulas (not full throttle, but learn to manage throttle input), and not brake (like panic brake)

one very very important skill is to brake (front or rear) while twisting the throttle
adding on to this skill, is feathering the clutch while doing it

throttle + brake = very slow speed maneuver
throttle + brake + clutch = even better

you can practice this while riding in a straight line - imagine motorcycle doing very slow speed procession
- steady throttle, steady clutch, but modulate the brake (preferably the rear brake)

then, take it to do turns - left turn, right turn, figure 8, then advanced level a full lock turn (disclaimer: I can't do full lock turns yet)

what you'll realize, never letting go the throttle makes you learn faster
- a smooth input to the bike control makes you a better rider in the long run
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OK i dropped my name in Metro driving academy.
But you guys are making it sound like it's damn difficult lah! I thought the school is supposed to teach me most things.
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post Oct 9 2024, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Oct 8 2024, 09:57 PM)
If you are scared of being first timer in handling big bikes, try searching hafiq azmi riding schools.
They have beginner class that can help you before going to riding school.
Riding school usually won't hold your hands or give personal lesson going through the course so this might help.
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OK i checked this out! Seems good! Perhaps I could try this out. I saw reviews saying that there are a lot of things that you don't learn from the driving academy. Aiyooo. Loosk like i might need extra pointers.
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post Oct 9 2024, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Oct 9 2024, 11:15 AM)
Common misconception. School teach how to pass, ie the JPJ test. At the same time they will pass down some tips and etc on how to handle the bikes on the track for the JPJ test.

Now the real open road riding skills or proper way to ride etc etc you need to find Safe riding skill courses. Im not sur about other manufacturers but HD have em at every month interval that owner can sign up to sharpen their skill. Instructor is a lady, very skilled one too.

As on the difficult part, it may seem like that but not saying it will be easy either. I think more of knowing what to do how to do vs not knowing and hence the fear and panic.

I like to equate it to what was it like when we were born, do we know how to stand and walk? No. But as we learn and master the body we got walking now is easy and becomes natural. Same way riding. Once you know how, the body the muscle memory will help you. Experiencing it physically is the best teacher compared to reading, watching video etc.
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OK i think it's good that one of the forumer actually told me to try out the riding school. I shall try that first and learn some basic. You know my parents used to ride kapchai when they were young (cause poor) now they are discouraging me like crazy. I should have done it when i was younger but now I'm in my 30s already. I feel like if I don't do it I might regret it for the rest of my life.
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post Oct 9 2024, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 9 2024, 02:24 PM)
Another thing is to stop doing what ur doing right now - overthinking.

Just learn whatever is being fed to u n enjoy ur time.

Concentrate on achieving the goal and not about how to get there
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True true. Okie la I have contacted the Hafiz driving school and both metro driving school. If I keep thinking about it I won’t do it. Might as well take that 1 step forward!!!

Btw once I get my L license, then I can practice on the road right? Usually what do you all do? Get a used small bike or big bike to practice?

I remember my dad’s advice to me when I was learning to drive, he refused to let us practice with a small car and asked to drive normal sedan, cause he said if we are used to small cars we won’t dare to drive big cars anymore. Hahaha!
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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 10 2024, 09:26 AM)
learning to ride vs learning to use a motorcycle on the road are two separate things
they need to be combined so you can travel safely on a motorcycle

just. don't. isekai.
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No no, i don't think i wont. I am not that young anymore! HAHA!
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post Oct 11 2024, 08:52 AM

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I have signed up with the Hafiz riding school. And then after that will decide on the license and see how everything goes. Hehe!
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post Oct 27 2024, 05:36 PM

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So I tried the riding school and I flew off my bike, landed on my back and hit my head on the back directly. Luckily I had helmet on, scratched on my back and I think my inner knees had some impact from the bike. I wanted to break but pressed on the throttle instead of the bike flew off and hit the pavement. I was very scared since the beginning because I wasn’t confident, since I couldn’t actually touch the ground so it really killed my confidence. Also, I was too focused on the clutch and whatever. When I’m riding a bicycle and if I can’t touch the ground, I get scared too. And this bike was a Yamaha MT15.

Thankfully I don’t have anymore injuries? Except my throat keeps hurting and I think the helmet strap might have hurt something inside, it’s like a sore throat. Hahaha.

Nonetheless, I think my journey ends here. I got traumatised from the head impact honestly. So people, please please please wear your bike helmet even if it’s a short journey. Only went to clinic and let’s see how it goes the next few days.

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QUOTE(Patent @ Oct 27 2024, 05:58 PM)
That is unfortunate to hear.. get well soon.
Can always try scooter in the future.
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I have been thinking ya, scooter would be so easier cause I don’t have think about shifting gears. And also most likely I’m able to step on the ground and will be more confident. But oh well, too late already. Haha!
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post Oct 28 2024, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 28 2024, 08:54 AM)
I used to drag oil change intervals, like 10k km or 6 months, I'd pick the later whichever belum reach
now is confirm 6 months

in my case, I could see the oil even low mileage but overdue, it's toast
sorry to hear this, lick your wounds and take some time to rebuild the mind - we can never be too ready to ride a motorcycle

hand wrist coordination is not a given talent, so I suppose you wanted to grab the brakes but accidentally twisted the throttle in doing so -  I was surprised to see seasoned riders unable to perform basic acrobats with their right hand in controlling their bike (maintaining partial throttle while braking) - eventually, you can choose to learn what are "maintenance throttle" and "trail braking"

I think you need riding friends, and I quite believe you have none around you, where you can discuss, watch and learn from them

etc etc... your first bike ought to be simple, basic throttle and brake controls, no clutch - friction zone (for the clutch) is another difficult matter

get yourself checked, re-orient yourself, and hope you resume soon
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QUOTE(Kaboku @ Oct 28 2024, 09:09 AM)
Glad that you are okay and no other major injuries. Usually the driving school will take new students who are new or unstable on the bike to practice on a big empty ground. That's what they did for me the first time I rode a clutch bike. Accidentally did a wheelie and crashed the bike on the figure of 8 course.

Get yourself oriented, rest and heal up and can try again in the future if you want to. What Alexei mentioned is the best course of action: Try to find some friends who ride and slowly learn from there. Kapchai and scooter is the best bike to learn from as they don't have clutch to worry about
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Oct 28 2024, 09:29 AM)
The thing about bikes are, you will eventually fall off it. Don't let that be a discouragement but instead view it as a learning experience. Personally I have fallen off my bike so many times that I had lost count...a few times quite spectacularly ....but it makes you a better rider.

Whiskey throttle (getting a handful of unintended throttle) is common newbie mistake.

Actually falling off the bike is a skill that needs to be learnt so you can unceremoniously do your unintended dismount without getting yourself injured. Don't try to hold on to a bike that you have lost control off.

I just think you just need a better instructor.
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Thanks! I will definitely have a think about it. What traumatized me is the impact on the head, at that moment i was thinking, if i didn't have the helmet on, it would be a pool of blood that I would be lying on. Haha. I fell a lot from bicycle when i was young, mostly just scratches and all, not like this. damn when you were young, you really didn't know better. I felt like I am like 10 years too late, should have learned a long time ago.

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