I assumed the same!

I learned first hand (with blood, lol) They ended up no better than tissue paper on the road

It is really your choice bro.
You will compromise/sacrifice.
So long you're ok with your choice.

No worry on degradation from reputable brands.
They will take many long years.

You degrade it faster crashing lol.

to me, depends how much you believe in karma and if you are also a driver or not.

i mean, if you're also a driver, it doesn't feel nice if other hit and damage your mirrors right? even a simple proton mirror, with folding motors, can cost over a thousand.
any non local and the cost escalates very quickly to 2-3 thousands at least per mirror.

if no damage, mirror can still fold, personally, I ok la.
but my own car mirrors has been hit and 1 side motor damaged which cost like 5k to replace whole unit, i just let it be cuz no budget lol.
personally when i was actively riding, i never hit a mirror before, so i guess my faith in karma is unfounded

Eh SSH rebranded? Didn't know

supply and demand market, and more "need" to cannibalize bike parts for R25 lol

yes Kawasaki parts might cost a bit mainly cuz Japan/TH made, while R25 mainly Indonesia made.
economics of scale in general and not so much quality difference.

but considering the marketing for Yamaha portraying it being higher performance and new riders (like me) who gullibly went with that marketing, probably pushed the bike way past its intended usage and yeah, durability went down the toilet.

TIL! never knew they bother with your gear during B full test. (well i passed in a go first try and never looked back lol)

and yes agree, i spent 5 digits on my gear collection but that's also cuz i wanted mid/mid high tier level stuff, and branded reputable, AND i bought for my wife as well which was about 3-4k already.

BOTH for 180 is definitely fake

genuine stuff either don't come with armor (you self buy) or already full on CE graded armor
applicable to either the back /chest armor, and/or elbow and shoulder armors.
really depends on the tier/pricing you pay.

yeah many fakes.
no idea on benkia brand.

yeah and a lot of the 600+ basic stuff from branded models doesn't include any armor at all lol (eg: foam paddings, which doesn't do a whole lot and self buying will easily push the price upwards 800-1k+)

i believe Penang got David Choo https://www.facebook.com/dcbikermalaysia/
they sell genuine stuff

no stupid questions - and it ultimately depends on the pump clicker configuration /condition if the valve/pressure sensor disengages quick enough (or if it even works)
in short - yes the auto hold/auto stop fuel nozzle works for all bikes.

bike gets a bit more unnerving due to the very small fuel tank and that's especially true for kapchai
you can literally see fuel sloshing and splashing about as that puny RM2-3 refueling approaches the clicker auto stop
if you're on a bigger bike having >10 liters, less of a concern as it has a lot more room for the fuel nozzle auto stop to work better.

that said, i just setel app/credit card pay wave and let it auto click. if it overflows it overflows then. not bothered.
try not to sit on the bike as you don't want petrol all over yourself.

after refuel and closed cap tightly, flush around affected spill with water
most petrol station have a bucket of water around, you can park your bike to a pump that has water ready or before refuel fill up a bucket prior just in case.

no worries, you don't want to smear around oily petrol on your bike anyways.
tissue/paper towels is after water flushing and wipe dry. but ok even if you don't as thee bike dries itself during rides

ya sponge is ok, but most stations the sponges are badly deteriorated, and/or very dirty.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 4 2022, 04:04 PM

that answers a long pending question in me: the pumps that don't properly work with petrol overflowing, is likely due to bad maintenance from station owners

no need no point.
there's an overflow hose and excess fuel will just be wasted lol

no quite, It is a Venturi effect that i have linked an explanation on how it works

pre grats bro!

lol i no desire to upgrade even though no ABS.

only wanting to add another bike in my stable

Nightstalker1993
I'll bring up another scenario(s) :

How many times a short rider is prepared to risk dropping the bike on a car or other bikes?

How about repair fees for those cars and bikes?

Ever seen a domino collapse on a bike parking? (I have, few times btw, lol)

Woah nostalgia, A rider in group had EXACTLY that at our Betong ride

Was on a multi strada

Ya my brand new R25 dropped within first hour of ownership

Ah pain.

one thing on the service manual though - 20k km valve clearance check.
which i think, make sense if you're really pushing the bike and high RPM majority of the time.

R25 kan? i 5k and eventually even 2500 km service my oil...
conrod also snap anyways. so F it la