hehe i try be clever, buy 1 bottle of silkoline from vr, and 2 bottles from the official store. lets see if they are the same. am very curious.

i have (some) confidence it might be legit? cause apparently one of my mechanics does get some motul stock off the guy. seems that bottles from different regions can look quite different, their motul 7100 stock from vietnam has the qr code, while the one for the france doesnt seem to have it. (am also unsure if this is the right way to check if its legit, but yea...)

would have bought the vietnam motul but no stock to try

Sorry to hear your about your incident. Hope you had a good recovery.

My riding school started me on kapchai when I told them I never rode a bike in my life.
After seeing me able to handle kapchai (no clutch), they pushed the big bike to me and guided me on riding it with the clutch.

I think you need a better riding instructor.

Side story. My cousin got her license and bike, a Vario 160. On her first trip out she fell and knock on head and thigh. Good thing, I got her to ride with safety gear ie. riding jacket and full face helmet. She only had some bruise on her thigh and scratched HJC full face. Otherwise, she's good and continue riding. Her heigh? 150cm. Reason for the fall: she hasn't got the road sense of riding bike, so got into little bump with other bikers.


For you, rest well. Do a restart.

This post has been edited by WH4CockcooBird: Oct 29 2024, 08:38 AM

iinm for first timer,
SOKD will provide KSR
iRIDE will provide Papio

both small bikes with clutch. at least give more confidence to ride for shorter people.

try contact them if you got the courage to try again.

Everybody falls off their bike. I lost count of how many times my wife fell off her bike. That's why I made sure every bike she has ridden has crashbars lol. Even last week on our trip across the border she slipped on some diesel at the pump and dumped her bike.

That's right. Everyone falls off when you explore the limits of the bike, eventually you WILL crash or tip over. It's part of the learning process. You dont fall off, you don't learn. It's as simple as that. You won't know where the limit is, or what to do/not to do until you get the oh shit moment. If someone says they never tip off the bike, they are not a very good rider. School of hard knocks apply here as well.

A meticulously looking bike is a sign of a good owner. A trashed up bike is a sign of the best riders.

Just make sure you are geared up and the bike has protection also. That's all.

The test bikes have extensive crash protection... They expect you to fall off.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Nov 5 2024, 11:33 AM

my two sen has a different approach when it comes to falling off a bike

number 0 - dress for the fall
number 1 - do not fall
number 2 - if fall is inevitable, let it go


This post has been edited by alexei: Nov 6 2024, 10:45 AM

pfft.

Skipped a few of those steps, learn the hard way and still riding

yeah
1st bike z8 and jatuh right away kan~

ya and again, and again. lol

The important part is don't give up. It's worth it.

Bought a few used bike and I learned from a guy named Ayah Pong (search him in Facebook he provides inspection services). Also some background engineering knowledge from my job as a technician.

Basic basic checking

1. Check starting motor smoothness. It shouldn’t take more than 2 efforts to start when using the electronic starter with a good battery. If you hear grinding sounds when starting and fails to start… just avoid the bike.

2. Test ride. Check front brakes, should not be squishy, firm and progressively feedback as you apply more pressure. Rear brakes gives less feedback but logic is the same.

3. Test ride. Check gear shifting smoothness. Missed gear shifts or abrupt drops back to neutral big red flag.

4. Static test. Pump the front brakes check the front forks for oil leaks. Touch the forks see if there’s oil.

5. Static test. Check if the condition of the overall body and disc rotors tally with the mileage of the bike. Suspiciously low mileage? Disc rotors should tell the truth. It’s not uncommon for touch up paints to be in high mileage bikes, it’s normal. What’s not normal is repairs to hide accidents. I’m afraid I’m not super knowledgeable in this. But obvious suspects, super shiny new radiator with new hoses? More than something just hit the radiator..

I just ask the owner if he jatuh bodoh before. Also do a CTOS total loss claim if you want on the chassis number (ask to share Geran)

6. Static test. Bring along multimeter. Set to DC, check battery condition should be 12.1x (at least 50%charged) above depending whether the owner drive long or short distance usually (Google charge state to get more detail). A lithium battery will be higher voltage at 50% SoC. Then after that, start the bike. The reading should be around 13.1x to 14.xx. It should rise and fall as you rev it up. Number between 12-13V indicates a weak charging output. Anything lower than 12V or stuck at >14.6V should be suspect as the alternator system is problematic. Usually either the stator coil or rectifier.

7. Major service evidence. >40-50K mileage. Ask if valve clearance has been done before..

I’m not a mechanic, just some basic understanding of electronics and stuff I learnt from my own bike service manual and also sifu online. Hope it helps.

True, but i'll check visual(underseat wiring) and static test checklist before requesting test drive. If its not good, I dont even bother to test drive, otherwise, they claim damage is done by me. haha

Nowadays nid to worry if it is motor banjir!

everybody mentioned that it is normal to fall off from bikes, yes I agree.
But is it normal that I have not? on both my mini fun bike z125pro and the z650 in the driving school? Been riding since July 2022 and only clocked in about 4.5k km mileage on my own bike though. About the same time as LSM.

The only time i hit something was when going up a kerb and hit the undercarriage of my own bike (i'm also unsure which part exactly does it hit, I hope not as serious minus some scratches) while fetching my wife, i admit i underestimated the height of that kerb beside the road.

This post has been edited by tehoice: Nov 15 2024, 10:51 AM

good lo

not saying everyone will fall down
but if dont want to fall down = dont ride a bike

i mean if you've only clocked 4.5k mileage after 2 years.. you havent ride enough
not that its a bad thing if you haven't fall off, means you are a safe rider or do practice a lot of caution

but still jatuh bodo is part of natural course in riding.. and usually it happens when you least expect it.

Maybe just haven't ride enough like what others say hahaha.

yup, cos it's only like my weekend thingy, on normal days i drive to work. it's really like a hobby, i don't do it daily.
touchwood so far haven't jatuh bodo before and hope i wont be bodo to jatuh hahaha, but hard to say when i get a bigger bike next time.

ride too little
ride too fast
parking too fast = terlupa tongkat betul2 hence jatuh bodo

Personally anyone who rides falls into 2 categories:

1: Those who have fallen off their bike
2: Those who will fall off their bike.

Falling off is a part and parcel of riding and when you do it more often will eventually come a day where you fall. I have fallen off the bike twice with the missus as a pillion. Lost count of the number of JB times. JB once when was practicing putting the bike on and off the center stand repeatedly.