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honsiong
post Apr 11 2019, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Apr 11 2019, 08:48 PM)
published on their website, total tey have 80k customer holding roughly about 23kg of gold

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You can use my ruby script to check the gold holdings and HGT yield everyday 11.15PM.
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post Apr 12 2019, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Apr 12 2019, 12:18 AM)
coding noob here, sorry dont get the script or dont even know how to run
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If you don't hold HGT then no point tracking that. But 4 days straight ppl keep selling gold after the promo ended.
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post Apr 12 2019, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Apr 12 2019, 09:36 AM)
this are all just small fish who hunt for promo, i am just curious, out of 80k ppl invested in HG, who hold the highest amount in gold?
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Should be HelloGold foundation if you refer to customer of HelloGold Sdn Bhd, not necessarily a natural person. HelloGold Foundation then mint GOLDX on Ethereum chain and sell it to others or distribute dividends of the management fee.

You can take hellogold.com/data.json and sort it descendingly based on gold_balance.
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post Jun 17 2019, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jun 17 2019, 03:17 PM)
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Really gg Liao at the token?
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I consider it gone case dy, it seems like HelloGold is adamant on not steering into different direction and still think gold will work out.


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post Jun 17 2019, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jun 17 2019, 04:22 PM)
Wow. Dangerous.

But now gold price fly. Wait my smart saver end then can run away liao
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I don't think we are referring to same thing.

If you invest with HelloGold app, you should be safe.

If you invest in the ERC20 HelloGold Token, you are screwed.
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post Aug 13 2019, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(rojakwhacker @ Aug 13 2019, 06:24 PM)
Gold RM206.59 per gram now, is it adnormal? hmm.gif
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Bcoz ray dalio.
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Joshua_ambrose @ Aug 14 2019, 10:25 AM)
Good morning. Re: payment options, we always look to bring more ways on how our customers can buy gold. Thank you for the suggestion on PayPal. We will keep all of you informed when this happens.

P.S. Thanks for the 'summon'  biggrin.gif
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That's a very polite nope.

PayPal's fee is higher than what HG charges for trading fees, and customers sure won't like to bear the fees either.
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post Aug 21 2019, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(avinlim @ Aug 20 2019, 01:42 PM)
Not charge RM40, its charge from your gold.

lets say 10g, will charge 2% which is 0.2g/year

but they charge monthly, means to be easy calculation.

0.2g/12 = 0.01667g/month deduction.

or RM40/12 = RM3.33/month deduction.

actually they calculated by (day of the mth)/365. divide by 12 is simplify calculation.

Cash in the hello gold wont get charged.
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Technically the interest you don't earn on ur case is earned by HG.


QUOTE(khai0412 @ Aug 20 2019, 11:09 PM)
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post Jan 9 2020, 12:22 PM

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HG doesn't take back whatever gold you giving because they do not have facilities to test whether your gold bar is real and 999.9 fineness.

Diff of HG from banks, at least what's told by HG, is that HG really has the gold bars, banks can sell you "gold" without actually having it. So banks pose a larger counterparty risk, but its unlikely banks will fold and not able to pay you.
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post Feb 1 2020, 02:43 AM

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HelloGold x Boost Incredouble promotion is a bit nuts.

Source: https://www.hellogold.com/my/incredouble-savings/ (Please read T&C for full details)

Basically, you:
1. Make sure your account is KYC-ed and is "Pro" status.
2. Buy RM200 gold one-shot and pay via Boost.
3. Boost will give you back RM10 within 48 hours.
4. Don't sell any gold for 1 month+, you get another RM10 worth of it.
5. You can do this twice.

The entry & exit fees are 0.8% on weekdays, annual fee of keeping gold inside is 2%.

Correct me if I am wrong:

- If you buy and sell immediately, you get 3.4% ROI instantly.
- If you hold for 1 month, given no gold price fluctuation, you get ~8.4% ROI in 1 month.

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post Feb 3 2020, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Feb 3 2020, 03:23 PM)
nope, you won't get ROI that high for every RM200
don't forget buying & selling rate differs, and the 0.8% entry & exit rate

IF buying RM200 now and sell it off straight, selling price is around RM195
and that's IF you get the RM10 from Boost which is based on first come first served, you'll gain only RM5 or lesser
and you better pray the gold price will be higher in one months time, if it's lower, doubt the extra RM10 can cover your losses
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What do you mean by buying & selling rate differs?

So there is a risk involved, I have said specifically IF the price does not fluctuate, don't uturn and say the price WILL drop. You cannot be certain that the price will drop in the future, I cannot be certain that it will stay that way, so I say IF.

8000 transactions is pretty insane by HelloGold's current AUM. RM200 ~ 1KG. They only hold approx 44KG for Malaysia customers for now. If ppl really do this promo we are seeing almost 18% boost from their current AUM.

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post Apr 9 2020, 03:36 AM

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QUOTE(yong417 @ Apr 8 2020, 11:05 PM)
i think this one confused me

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let's do a simple example, i buy and sell on a back to back basis, with premium of 10% and fee of 0.79%, market price RM200/g. I buy 1g of gold.
So, my total payable purchase price would be:

200 + (200 x 10%) +  (200 x 0.79%)
= 200 +20 +1.58
= 221.58

Right?
Let's say i sell immediately and no price movement:

My sales proceeds (my receivable) would be:

200 + (200 x 10%) - (200 x 0.79%)
= 200 +20 -1.58
= 218.42

Right?
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No, because HelloGold is not market maker outside there. If they have to sell their 1KG bar now, they only get paid at spot price. However they have to pay spot + 10% premium when they buy.

It's not really fair, refrain from trading gold right now.
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post May 17 2020, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(BooYa @ May 16 2020, 09:31 PM)
rm237.51/g now, still can whack or not sifus?
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HelloGold now charges extra 7% on top of existing fees. For now I think it's best to get gold exposure elsewhere.
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post May 19 2020, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(abcn1n @ May 19 2020, 12:22 AM)
I have been interested in bitcoin for quite some time now, just don't know how to invest in it. Now got offer, so tempted especially since can start with only RM100. Anyway, some quick read on Luno thread reveal that its very illiquid and quite a few problems. So may have to give it a pass for the time being
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You have very few options in Malaysia coz SEC disallowed everybody but 3. Out of the 3 only Luno is reputable enough.

You can give say Binance etc a try though.

Just remember, never keep your monies on exchanges, as soon as you make the trades, withdraw them to your own wallet. These exchanges are not insured by any means and security breaches are frequent.
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post May 21 2020, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ May 21 2020, 03:37 PM)
any indication on the gold market price excluding or including premium on the app?
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The spot price excludes all the fees associated with buying/selling in app.

If you buy gold in HG now, you need it to gain at least 8% to break even, or 10% if you keep it inside for 1 year due to management fee.

Will gold price go up that much, very probable. StashAway's latest update moved a lot more % into gold even after a 35% run up in last 12 months.
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post Jun 1 2020, 03:51 PM

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How the hell does this company keep surviving keep giving out cashback and gold?

HelloGold Token is practically worthless by now.
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post Jun 1 2020, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jun 1 2020, 03:54 PM)
fees and charges OR desperately needing customers now.
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Once you get the cashback + free gold, you can just sell it and still profit - provided gold price doesnt drop that much.
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post Jun 15 2020, 08:39 PM

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Receied RM10 and 0.04g
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post Nov 7 2020, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 7 2020, 07:33 PM)
Yes, the spread is rather wide. Up to 2%

Example: Buy @ RM 273.03/g & Sell @ 247.38/g
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Spread is only that big during weekends.

The spread is only about 5% during weekdays.
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post Nov 11 2020, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Nov 11 2020, 11:11 PM)
Spread is how much on weekday??
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I literally said there... bout 5%

If you have GrabPay Plat tier, you get almost 2-3% in points back.

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