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tpleong
post May 11 2017, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Unknown_X @ May 11 2017, 03:30 PM)
Thanks for ur info.
I am thinking of further developing my career in UK in the future, so I think that having a UK degree will grant more advantage compare to others.
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For your info, its virtually impossible to practice law in UK .....for us malaysian

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post May 11 2017, 05:11 PM

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everyone is getting a law degree from the UK and most of them dont get to find a job there. You might as well just do the london external paper in malaysia and save on $$
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post May 11 2017, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Unknown_X @ May 11 2017, 03:30 PM)
Thanks for ur info.
I am thinking of further developing my career in UK in the future, so I think that having a UK degree will grant more advantage compare to others.
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I'm not a lawyer but some advice from someone who started his career in the UK (in finance) and then coming back to Malaysia after losing his job and not being able to find a new one.

1. Law is an extremely popular course and getting into a top university is even more competitive. The Russell Group universities ask for AAA nowadays and even having AAA is not going to guarantee you entry into a top law programme. I've interviewed students before and I've never had a student come to interview with two A Levels, but I know the first thing most interviewers would ask is, "Why only two A Levels?" Unless you have very strong extenuating circumstances for two A Levels, this will work against you.

2. It's not too difficult to do the Bar Vocational Course (if you want to be a barrister) nowadays. If, however, you want to continue your career in the UK, securing a pupillage is very hard. Most chambers will not even consider your application because of the hassle, i.e. they will need to justify to the Home Office why they are taking you and not a UK citizen. I should remind you that the UK voted to leave the EU so let's just say bringing in foreigners is not exactly a huge priority for the UK right now.

Having said all this, you can do it with only two A Levels but there are huge obstacles to success. If you really want to succeed in your effort, why hamper yourself at this early stage? I'd suggest taking at least one more A Level subject, making sure you get good grades in every subject you take, and if you can secure at least AAA, you at least have a better shot at making it. Keep in mind that, even if you this, it will still be very hard.

I've only known two people who secured pupillages and made their career in law in the UK. One got married to a national and became a UK citizen very early on so that doesn't count. The other was an extremely impressive Malaysian candidate who had already won international writing prizes, participated in the SEA games, had teaching diplomas in two musical instruments, and received 5 As at A Level, before going on to get a high First Class degree from Cambridge.

That's the kind of competition you'll be up against.


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post May 11 2017, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Unknown_X @ May 11 2017, 03:30 PM)
Thanks for ur info.
I am thinking of further developing my career in UK in the future, so I think that having a UK degree will grant more advantage compare to others.
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Thats near impossible nowadays, due to the protectionist measures employed by the british govt to keep local unemployment levels low. Or else, firms will be rushing to hire foreigners as most are willing to work more for less. Basically, for a firm to hire a foreigner, they must convince the home office that there are no suitable locals to take up the job, which is quite hard given that there isnt a shortage of locals studying law in the first place. Also, unless you are really exceptional, i dont think the firms will undertake the hassle to actually justify your employment.


With brexit, the people are telling the govt to cut down on immigrant workers,. Expect regulations for foreign workers to be tightened further.


After all, there are thousands of foreign law grads there studying with the exact same intention of staying behind, most wont make it and will be forced to return home. What makes you think you will make it?


Most of these foreign law grads who are forced to come back are from countries like singapore, korea etc, with impeccable english and social skills. It would be hard to compete with them, and yet, most are forced to return. It would be unrealistic to think you or i stand a chance against them, the probability of success is virtually 0

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post May 11 2017, 10:08 PM

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wants only 2 a levels subjects, looking for short cuts, yet wants "top unis" and now wants to work in uk....

talk about delusional....lol
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post May 12 2017, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 11 2017, 10:08 PM)
wants only 2 a levels subjects, looking for short cuts, yet wants "top unis" and now wants to work in uk....

talk about delusional....lol
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Apparently in the UK, all A-Levels certificate for each subject is independent, and not in one single form. sweat.gif
So they can handle it with ease, if they want to retake any subs.

For TS Case, I think it is better for him to take 3 subjects.
As that's the UK Standard.

So he can complete the 3rd subject, after he completed his first 2 Cambridge A-Level exams.
Some UK Sixth Forms, People do only 2 AS+A2, and 1 AS, because they felt they have no interest in completing it.

That AS certificate alone, is now an independent certificate, only in other boards than Cambridge.

Meanwhile for Cambridge A-Levels, you need AS and A2 to get an overall A-Level results.
Your A2 results will never become an independent certificate.

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post May 12 2017, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Alidanilz @ Apr 29 2017, 01:36 AM)
Not too sure of what way are you referring to but you can if you opt for their foundation programme. It gives you a direct entry provided that you meet the grades.

If you're really keen on Kings, I'd suggest you to opt for their foundation. Only a year programme compared to A-Levels. You will have to do the programme in the UK though.
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if he intend to do clp it pretty much void the rights to do clp in malaysia
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post May 12 2017, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 11 2017, 10:08 PM)
wants only 2 a levels subjects, looking for short cuts, yet wants "top unis" and now wants to work in uk....

talk about delusional....lol
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Hey,

All of the above discussion is just a plan which will vary from time.



This post has been edited by Unknown_X: May 12 2017, 09:42 PM
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post May 12 2017, 04:30 PM

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Correct me if l am wrong. UKT Leeds will require 3 Bs in A levels and for Manchester , it is ABB in 3 A levels. This is from Talyor law prospectus. I am sure the better unis will also select the best students from UKT . They can reject lower ranked students.

Limeuu is someone who is very objective in his comments . Many have benefited from his advice including my relative.

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post May 12 2017, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(confirm @ May 12 2017, 04:30 PM)


Limeuu is someone who is very objective in his comments . Many have benefited from his advice including my relative.
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Yes, I totally agreed with you on this . Limeuu is very knowledgeable especially in the field of medicine . He has helped a lot of people .
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post May 16 2017, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Unknown_X @ May 10 2017, 10:21 AM)
Hey, currently I am leaning towards the UKT program either to Queen university, Belfast or University of Leeds. Unfortunately BAC did not offered to Leeds, so I might consider transferring to Taylors after completing my A-levels. Any thoughts on the two university I mentioned.

How was ur UKT program?

Yeah, BAC is a commercialise college which offer poor lecture, facilities and programs.

Thanks
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Can't really help you on the selection of university sorry (I have no idea about their law faculty), you'll have to find out which uni suits you better.

As far as I know, unless you're doing a full degree program in UK in prestigious uni, have perfect a levels score+combination of subject, started a club/society, etc and even so, your chance of landing a career in UK is very very slim. You'll be taking a massive gamble if you're betting rm150k(a year?) to get a job in UK in return. Unless you're okay with just gaining overseas experience+ UK degree and some soft skills, it would say it is not a very good investment (and this depends on your financial position).

and i would say UK DEGREE =/= high salary in Malaysia, even if you're from a prestigious uni.

*My thoughts and opinions, backed with no evidence/data.

but I have to say I do enjoy my time in UK even though I'm studying in a mediocre university (teaching methods far better than BAC & Sunway).




 

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