Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

3 Pages  1 2 3 >Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

> Made in China aircraft carrier

views
     
SUSwankongyew
post Apr 26 2017, 01:27 PM, updated 9y ago

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,177 posts

Joined: Nov 2007



user posted image

QUOTE
China launched its first domestically built aircraft carrier, burnishing President Xi Jinping’s credentials as commander-in-chief ahead of a Communist Party leadership reshuffle this year.

The warship was floated at a shipyard in the northeastern port of Dalian in a ceremony attended by General Fan Changlong, second only to Xi on the Central Military Commission, according to a statement on the Ministry of National Defense’s website. A bottle of champagne was ceremonially smashed on the vessel’s bow before the ship was escorted from dry dock, the ministry said.

The aircraft carrier program lies at the heart of China’s effort to build a “blue water” navy capable of projecting power beyond the country’s coast and protecting increasingly far-flung interests. Xi has made overhauling and modernizing the People’s Liberation Army a centerpiece of his agenda since taking power in 2012.

The aircraft carrier -- the second in an estimated fleet of as many as six such ships -- was based on the design of the Liaoning, a Soviet vessel China bought from Ukraine, refitted and put to sea almost six years ago. Launching the carrier allows Xi to tout an historic milestone before he presides over the ruling party’s twice-a-decade congress, in which roughly half of its Central Committee is expected to be replaced.

“China has this ambitious goal of acquiring more aircraft carriers,” said Andrew Scobell, a senior political scientist at RAND Corp. who has written about China’s aircraft carrier program for the U.S. Naval War College Review. “The program has different drivers, but the one that cannot be discounted is prestige and status for Chinese leaders.”

‘Key Juncture’

The new carrier, known for now as Type 001A, is being built by the state-owned China Shipbuilding Industry Corp. Construction of a third is already underway by China State Shipbuilding Corp. at the Jiangnan shipyard near Shanghai. Defenses analysts at military-affliated research groups have told state media that the country needs at least three more.

“Launching is a key juncture of aircraft-carrier building and marks a significant achievement for our country’s home-built and designed carrier,” the defense ministry said. The carrier will still require years of fitting, testing and sea trials.

Nonetheless, China Shipbuilding Industry Co., the Type 001A builder’s listed unit, fell as much as 4.6 percent in Shanghai trading on Wednesday, the most since January. On Tuesday, the company reported full-year profit of 698 million yuan ($101 million), compared with analysts’ estimates of 663 million yuan.

Limited Capabilities

The launch came as the region’s long-dominant naval power, the U.S., deployed a strike group led by the nuclear-powered USS Carl Vinson to the Western Pacific in response to tensions around North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. China’s first two carriers -- limited by their ski-jump decks, diesel propulsion systems and limited overseas bases -- pose little challenge to the U.S.’s supercarriers.

While Liaoning’s political commissar in November declared the carrier “combat ready,” the PLA Navy has largely used it for training. The carriers were expected to be limited to forays beyond the so-called First Island Chain, Scobell said, using the term for the string of archipelagos that stretches from Japan, past Taiwan to the Philippines -- all U.S. security partners.

The new carrier has more advanced weapons systems than the Liaoning, said Ni Lexiong, director of the Shanghai University of Political Science and Law’s Sea Power and Defense Policy Research Institute. The ship will accommodate more J-15 fighter jets, carry China’s most advanced S-band radar and feature four batteries of HQ-10 short-range air-defense missiles, Ni said.

“It signals the PLAN’s growing capabilities, which were achieved at a fast pace,” Ni said.

Jumps, Jets

The Liaoning displaces a maximum of about 60,000 tons. The Japan-based USS Ronald Reagan, by comparison, displaces 97,000 tons while the Carl Vinson displaces about 103,000 tons.

The first two Chinese carriers are hampered by the lack of steam catapults launching systems used by the U.S., according to Richard Bitzinger, coordinator of the military transformations program at the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore. That means the J-15s must carry more fuel and limit ordnance loads. China may attempt to install a steam catapult system on its third carrier.

Scobell said it might be decades before China possesses multiple large aircraft carriers and becomes adept at operating them. By then, more sophisticated “carrier-killer” missiles and other new systems to deny them access to certain waters may make them less relevant.

“Some of my colleagues in Washington say: China, build all the carriers you want,” Scobell said. “It’s going to spend a lot of money, a lot of effort, but to what end?”
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles...-second-overall
limfreelance
post Apr 26 2017, 01:28 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
343 posts

Joined: Jul 2011
From: Land of SaberLion :3
Slow
babykon101
post Apr 26 2017, 01:30 PM

Bodyslammin' Sailormoon
****
Senior Member
585 posts

Joined: Jan 2014
From: Fat Sailormoons Island



Wad the? The ship is floating? Why the tajam2 part not in water. So small area size of the sheep can sapok the big2 broom2 landing stirp?
Baconateer
post Apr 26 2017, 01:30 PM

Meh..... (TM)
*******
Senior Member
5,088 posts

Joined: Jun 2013
From: Blue Planet


thy spent alot of time and money developing weapons capable of destroying aircraft carriers....now thy go and build their own aircraft carrier... perhaps more to come..

still not nuclear powered..how to establish dominance like Murica??
sniper on the roof
post Apr 26 2017, 01:34 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
VIP
23,414 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Taipei
QUOTE(Baconateer @ Apr 26 2017, 01:30 PM)
thy spent alot of time and money developing weapons capable of destroying aircraft carriers....now thy go and build their own aircraft carrier... perhaps more to come..

still not nuclear powered..how to establish dominance like Murica??
*
Higher priority are CATOBAR and addressing the lack of specialized platforms like AEW
Ang mor wonnabi
post Apr 26 2017, 01:35 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
0 posts

Joined: Oct 2015
Is the one made from trash ship?
Baconateer
post Apr 26 2017, 01:36 PM

Meh..... (TM)
*******
Senior Member
5,088 posts

Joined: Jun 2013
From: Blue Planet


QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Apr 26 2017, 01:34 PM)
Higher priority are CATOBAR and addressing the lack of specialized platforms like AEW
*
also..probably as a training vessel...

im sure they are planning to build more of it..
K.I.T.T
post Apr 26 2017, 01:39 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
672 posts

Joined: Sep 2008
QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Apr 26 2017, 01:34 PM)
Higher priority are CATOBAR and addressing the lack of specialized platforms like AEW
*
i am notices USA aircraft carier once going war its just use 1% of USA strengh...cause USA have atleast 15k jet
aircraft can carry 90 the rest leave at home.
K.I.T.T
post Apr 26 2017, 01:40 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
672 posts

Joined: Sep 2008
QUOTE(Baconateer @ Apr 26 2017, 01:30 PM)
thy spent alot of time and money developing weapons capable of destroying aircraft carriers....now thy go and build their own aircraft carrier... perhaps more to come..

still not nuclear powered..how to establish dominance like Murica??
*
china will develop more figher jet and more aircraft carrier. each aircraft carrier able to do ground and air attack
toekong
post Apr 26 2017, 01:42 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
240 posts

Joined: Aug 2007


The island looks pretty big. That ship must light up like a Christmas tree in radar.
angelgemini
post Apr 26 2017, 01:42 PM

...
******
Senior Member
1,751 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Malaysia


China needs aircraft carrier to show they capable of attacking, not just defend.

do not look down on china build speed.
it looks normal and weak if compare to USA supercarrier group.
but when many of them come, is different stories already.

Baconateer
post Apr 26 2017, 01:44 PM

Meh..... (TM)
*******
Senior Member
5,088 posts

Joined: Jun 2013
From: Blue Planet


QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Apr 26 2017, 01:40 PM)
china will develop more figher jet and more aircraft carrier. each aircraft carrier able to do ground and air attack
*
i know..wat i mean is thy cannot linger on a AO for a very long time..unlike Murica...
nikita zuleica
post Apr 26 2017, 01:45 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
410 posts

Joined: Aug 2010




QUOTE(Baconateer @ Apr 26 2017, 01:30 PM)
thy spent alot of time and money developing weapons capable of destroying aircraft carriers....now thy go and build their own aircraft carrier... perhaps more to come..

still not nuclear powered..how to establish dominance like Murica??
*
Don't tell me that this gigantic ship is powered by coal
SUSwankongyew
post Apr 26 2017, 01:45 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,177 posts

Joined: Nov 2007



US has what, 10 aircraft carriers in service? I'm guessing China will catch up in quantity within 10 years. Quality-wise, might take some more time.
Baconateer
post Apr 26 2017, 01:46 PM

Meh..... (TM)
*******
Senior Member
5,088 posts

Joined: Jun 2013
From: Blue Planet


QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Apr 26 2017, 01:45 PM)
Don't tell me that this gigantic ship is powered by coal
*
steam turbine engine..

probably coals...but definitely not nuclear-powered..
angelgemini
post Apr 26 2017, 01:47 PM

...
******
Senior Member
1,751 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Malaysia


QUOTE(Baconateer @ Apr 26 2017, 01:44 PM)
i know..wat i mean is thy cannot linger on a AO for a very long time..unlike Murica...
*
inb4, is not a carrier,
is a torpedo ship, used to ram supercarrier. lol

build 10 to ram 1 supercarrier group, the cost may still cheaper. lol

all the J15 may be used as a kamikaze type.
10 carrier carry 20 x J15 = 200 X J15, ram from sky and sea.
i wonder supercarrier group can handle it?

nazrul90
post Apr 26 2017, 01:47 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
302 posts

Joined: Sep 2009
Imagine Japan can build aircraft carrier in modern day..
SUSBlueButtBaboon
post Apr 26 2017, 01:47 PM

FEEL WITH IT
****
Senior Member
517 posts

Joined: Aug 2014
From: hutan lipor



Build by xiomi
Baconateer
post Apr 26 2017, 01:49 PM

Meh..... (TM)
*******
Senior Member
5,088 posts

Joined: Jun 2013
From: Blue Planet


QUOTE(angelgemini @ Apr 26 2017, 01:47 PM)
inb4, is not a carrier,
is a torpedo ship, used to ram supercarrier. lol

build 10 to ram 1 supercarrier group, the cost may still cheaper. lol

all the J15 may be used as a kamikaze type.
10 carrier carry 20 x J15 = 200 X J15, ram from sky and sea.
i wonder supercarrier group can handle it?
*
10 ships to ram an aircraft carrier?

u nuts?

u forgot tht a carrier group was also accompanied by few subs...

kamikaze? u think this is IJN?
Baconateer
post Apr 26 2017, 01:50 PM

Meh..... (TM)
*******
Senior Member
5,088 posts

Joined: Jun 2013
From: Blue Planet


QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Apr 26 2017, 01:47 PM)
Imagine Japan can build aircraft carrier in modern day..
*
user posted image

thy hv heli carrier tho...

but im sure thy are capable of building an aircraft carrier..if thy wanted to..

3 Pages  1 2 3 >
Bump Topic Add ReplyOptions New Topic
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0204sec    0.47    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 20th December 2025 - 06:30 AM