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TSieverythings
post Apr 27 2017, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Apr 26 2017, 11:48 AM)
if they adjust higher.. later company MACC find hr to question..
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Is it true that there is such restriction?
It sounds advantageous to the employer.
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post Apr 27 2017, 01:07 PM

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Last job offer I had, I insisted that I will not put in my salary. Went for 2 interviews, got the job, 50% increment.

This next job offer is a bit different. I didn't provide my payslip but I gave a ballpark annual figure and still asked for 50%. Let's see what happens biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(taiping... @ Apr 27 2017, 12:51 PM)
I think you should if you don't wan them to lowball u

But the consequences, i dont know
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There is possible that they will KIV or reject your application.
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post Apr 27 2017, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 27 2017, 01:07 PM)
Last job offer I had, I insisted that I will not put in my salary. Went for 2 interviews, got the job, 50% increment.

This next job offer is a bit different. I didn't provide my payslip but I gave a ballpark annual figure and still asked for 50%. Let's see what happens biggrin.gif
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Hi mind to share which industry do you work?
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post Apr 27 2017, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 27 2017, 01:07 PM)
Last job offer I had, I insisted that I will not put in my salary. Went for 2 interviews, got the job, 50% increment.

This next job offer is a bit different. I didn't provide my payslip but I gave a ballpark annual figure and still asked for 50%. Let's see what happens biggrin.gif
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Did they probe you for the reason of not disclosing your current salary?
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post Apr 27 2017, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 27 2017, 01:07 PM)
Last job offer I had, I insisted that I will not put in my salary. Went for 2 interviews, got the job, 50% increment.

This next job offer is a bit different. I didn't provide my payslip but I gave a ballpark annual figure and still asked for 50%. Let's see what happens biggrin.gif
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I believe it under small company.. if MNC then no way.. as HR require to submit report every month on the hiring things.
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post Apr 27 2017, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Apr 25 2017, 04:52 PM)
fuck them its P&C

at the most give them your EPF statement
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Every new Employer has the right to see your payslip!!!
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post Apr 27 2017, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Apr 27 2017, 07:27 PM)
I believe it under small company.. if MNC then no way.. as HR require to submit report every month on the hiring things.
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Last 2 companies I worked for were Fortune 500 companies. I did not submit my payslip, only put in what I wanted and got my 50% after some negotiations. I guess what I wanted to illustrate was that it's possible to do so in Malaysia, don't be sucked into a bad culture if you have a choice.


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QUOTE(Win Win Inspiration @ Apr 27 2017, 06:27 PM)
Did they probe you for the reason of not disclosing your current salary?
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Yes they did, but I said I wanted to do the interview first and my salary was P&C.

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post Apr 27 2017, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(win7 @ Apr 27 2017, 08:21 PM)
Every new Employer has the right to see your payslip!!!
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I would want to see the law on that.

I have never ever have to do it even with MNC or Chinamen company. I always state what I want and if its within their budget they will give it to me else they will just tell me their max budget for the position. If I'm not ok with it then I will just say sorry I don't think we could proceed this time.
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 27 2017, 08:36 PM)
Yes they did, but I said I wanted to do the interview first and my salary was P&C.
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Interesting. And their HR did this professionally I believe?

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post Apr 28 2017, 10:19 AM

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most of HR will confuse when i same something about P&C information.. Yo.. we aren't cheap worker
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post Apr 28 2017, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Win Win Inspiration @ Apr 28 2017, 08:42 AM)
Interesting. And their HR did this professionaly I believe?
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The first company I did this with was Shell more than 10 years ago. The HR were very professional about it throughout.
Second company I did this with was a much smaller company (but still Fortune 500) in KL.
Third company I am trying to do this with is a local company. They've not responded to me yet biggrin.gif although the HR was very professional as well.

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 28 2017, 05:19 PM)
The first company I did this with was Shell more than 10 years ago. The HR were very professional about it throughout.
Second company I did this with was a much smaller company (but still Fortune 500) in KL.
Third company I am trying to do this with is a local company. They've not responded to me yet biggrin.gif although the HR was very professional as well.
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Glad to know that the HR personnel are behaving professionally throughout.
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post Apr 29 2017, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(win7 @ Apr 27 2017, 08:21 PM)
Every new Employer has the right to see your payslip!!!
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No right. It's P&C
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post May 3 2017, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(lawrencesha @ Apr 25 2017, 05:16 PM)
I'm assuming that you've never worked for an MNC company. Each job has a job grade (JG) tied to it. Each JD has a salary range as well. They cannot say coz your last job is X, so they will only give you X+20%. They must pay within that JG pay range else it is going to be a compliance issue.
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ May 3 2017, 04:05 PM)
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However, some companies (even MNC), they will seize the chance to lowball their candidates, say, by paying at the lower range of that JG, correct?
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post May 4 2017, 12:57 PM

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Normally I will seal the salary figures first and if HR want my payslip after that, they can have it.

Honestly speak, HR nowadays is such pain to deal since they want to reduce salary as much as their can for their KPI's.
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post May 4 2017, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(s|dE @ May 4 2017, 12:57 PM)
Normally I will seal the salary figures first and if HR want my payslip after that, they can have it.

Honestly speak, HR nowadays is such pain to deal since they want to reduce salary as much as their can for their KPI's.
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Means HR is our enemy?

Normally i declare my salary on Application Form
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post May 5 2017, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(win7 @ May 4 2017, 09:12 PM)
Means HR is our enemy?

Normally i declare my salary on Application Form
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Salary is P&C.

Normally I will leave "current drawn salary" empty. If the HR ask, Just tell them "May I know what is the purpose of knowing my current drawn salary? I'm not comfortable to disclose it as it is P&C."

Ask what is their budget or market rate for the applied position instead.

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