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westlife
post May 4 2017, 09:39 PM

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u mobile broadband the mifi modem is it unlocked one?
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post May 4 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Velocity @ May 1 2017, 06:21 PM)
My review of Umobile after using 6months

My data cannot finish using P70 because the line too slow and keep losing connection need to deactivate airplane mode and activate to get back internet

my yes huddle 16GB finish within 2 weeks.

Previously worse it keep switching between R , Edge, H and stuck at Edge.

Facebook sometimes slow like hell until unbearable.

So have plans switching to Maxis or digi.

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U mobile has the worst speed ever.
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post May 8 2017, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 8 2017, 09:20 PM)
anyone have tried the volte call? hmm.gif
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this service has no point rite if a telco's data network is not good?
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post May 8 2017, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(stephantsen @ May 8 2017, 10:14 PM)
agreed. but their wifi calling is really useful since their own network cannot connect at all
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Wifi calling that one can understand since it is tapping on any working wifi. And it does not really on their own network. This make sense especially it is the telco that is known to have poor coverage, so wifi calling compliments it.

But voLTe I really did not see much relevant to it given its poor network coverage and speed.

If this service is on maxis which has solid 4G coverage and speed, this service certainly make sense.
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post May 8 2017, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 8 2017, 10:30 PM)
this volte can only works when u and the called party are both attached to LTE.

if 4g service is bad/not good during volte, then the call will transfer to 3g. process called srvcc.
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Then it will be even more no point since most ppl will not be even in a telco plan such as maxis that has superb 4g network. But instead on other telcos due to the Lower in price.

In this case, most ppl cannot really take advantage of this service especially if they are on this one.

Seriously speaking nowadays the call network should be super not congested due to the super low call usage by ppl nowadays. Anyone should have no problem making a good quality call on 3G network unless they are on this one which has poor coverage. So I do not see any benefits that ppl will urgently require such service for call.

Unless anyone is really so concerned about he faster setup call. Or download and call at the same time on LTE?
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post May 9 2017, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 8 2017, 10:55 PM)
if the service is offered free, i dun complaint.  tongue.gif

just dun make it worse than calling in 3G.
Volte is using LTE network, not 3g. the point of volte is its higher voice quality, not its setup time which may take few miliseconds more.

and yes, u can download and call at the same time on LTE. this is possible bcoz of the higher throughput of LTE network compared to 3g.
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yes, but on 3G, voice calls do not use data. So in terms of stability, it is better since it is going thru a dedicated path for voice.

the volte is free, users do not pay extra than just normal call charges, but is there is no 4g connection during the call, the call may be disconnected.

I dun know how much clearer the voice would be on volte. But given the low usage of calls and give the quality of calls nowadays, it is not bad. It is just nice full hd vs 4k, 4k is good, but full hd is also not bad already. the demand will be similar to the wish that ppl switching to 4k at this stage. Good to have, but not compulsory.
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post May 9 2017, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 9 2017, 09:24 AM)
that is up to the telco on how it implemented the solution. i believe every telco must has taken this into consideration.

one as i mentioned before, is srvcc, which is handover from 4g towards 3g network. this process should be invisible to the users.

but that of coz was tested in ideal situation. there is a slight possibility it may not succeed in real network environment, which the worst can happen will be drop/silent calls if the handover fail.
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the info from u mobile.

it makes sense, because this solution relies on LTE. so u mobile has the greatest challenge on this solution as their LTE network comparing to other 3 telcos really .......

even the current calls or data, u mobile is already not on the ideal state, not to mention about LTE.

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ May 9 2017, 10:32 AM)
Works well on my Digi LTE too. The advantages I would say I truly enjoy is that the network wont switch to 3G when a call is made or a call comes in. So this is particularly important when you are tethering or using your data would not be affected when a call comes in. Network clarity on LTE calling is really good but its not that important as the other party may not have it.
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yup, this is the only advantage i can think of that one will care about VoLTE. but seriously speaking, normally one tether only from own devices. so even calls come in, the person will be attending to calls, so the cut of 4G during call should not be a big impact also.

same goes to the voice quality, nowadays the voice call quality is also not that bad also that one will need a super clear voice call. especially nowadays ppl really make voice call only when they really need it and the call is normally short.
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post May 9 2017, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(enviro @ May 9 2017, 04:40 PM)
Umobile so bad Now days. Thinking of going back to celcom. RM98 40gb all day.😁
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i tot 'always'. tongue.gif
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post May 16 2017, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ May 16 2017, 01:23 PM)
For App-Onz, Video-Onz, the bandwidth is capped at roughly 180kb/s.
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super no meaning. nowadays who wants to view 480p video.
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post May 17 2017, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ May 17 2017, 08:35 AM)
Well.. Issue is everybody is maximizing data quota usage by hogging the data.
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Expected ah since it is 'unlimited', ppl will maximise the usage to. And their $$ worthwhile then the rest will suffer.

that's why given the limited bandwidth of telco network, they should not probably even offer 'unlimited' unless they really have such bandwidth to sell.

Else they are actually overselling their products for this now.
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post May 17 2017, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(bshakj @ May 17 2017, 12:17 AM)
So silly the h78 plan, if 5mbps is unlimited ... why need to videoonz with capped 480p.... just use the unlimited 5 mbps high speed data for all videos la... stupid design plan. Wonder who smart alex thought of this....?
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that's why. video traffic is the no 1 traffic on Internet, they cap the video streaming quality of course they can offer 'unlimited'.
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 17 2017, 04:04 PM)
that's what FUP is for.. all telcos implemented this.

coz peoples want unlimited, but dun want to play their part by not abusing it.

bandwidths are expensive to provide, unless a telco controls everything from end-to-end; radio tower, fiber transmission access, core networks and finally towards the submarine cable. currently no telco in malaysia has that.

so the best right now is to offer unlimited access but with capping on the speed.  smile.gif
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that's why it depends on where this is implemented. if it is implemented in a place that ppl are full of integrity, then ok. bolehland? ...

actually quota based is still better. it is the most effective to control bandwidth. no matter how they cap, it will be misused.

and they can just offer 'real' unlimited broadband with much higher price so that ppl can use it for replacement of the fixed line broadband at home.
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post May 17 2017, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 17 2017, 04:43 PM)
unlimited capping at 64kbps is still manageable by telcos. higher than that, they will have significant congestion on their back end.
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64kbps is not usable to most users unless u are just doing whatsapp. To me as user, it is not even a 'cap' since it is not usable to me at all which I dun bother about using it at such speed either.

5Mbps capped is different as one do a continuous download. A 1gb file just need 28mins and 37 seconds to download at 5Mbps full speed. So one month anyone has such speed who download non stop can download easily as 1.5 Tb of data in total. It is not a tight control as 5Mbps is very usable speed for web browsing or even full hd video streaming with some buffering.

This explains why DiGi stops the rm80 plan with 5Mbps capped in less than one week of release.

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post May 17 2017, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 17 2017, 08:59 PM)
that's what it is all about. telcos need to safeguard their network as well. there are a lot of factors to weigh in before their marketing team come out with a new prepaid/postpaid plan.

if they just give in to customer demands, sure bungkus. need to find a win-win situation.
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obviously they are doing opposite. their network is not even 'ready' for unlimited at all, but their marketing are trying to come out such fake 'unlimited' or restrictive 'unlimited' plan just to get more subscribers.

in the end, they get $, but network infra suffers and customers are not happy due to network congestion issues etc. too.

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 17 2017, 09:27 PM)
if speaking bout readiness, not even Maxis, Celcom and Digi meet the requirements, else there will be no complaints at all.

but if have better network, so does the price will go up.  smile.gif
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maxis and celcom has good network to support normal quota limit plans but not unlimited for sure that's why they dun offer unlimited because they know that will not work without compromising things.

it is more of telcos who are not ready for unlimited, 'even' not ready for normal quota plans and again offers unlimited just to attract subscribers.

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post May 17 2017, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(stephantsen @ May 17 2017, 10:02 PM)
what to do? so many people demand umobile for unlimited plan. now they really launch the plan, but still got people complain for it.
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ppl who wants the price instead of everything, they will still go for the plans.

ppl all have different needs and requirements, that's why even for telco who does not make their network good, also there will be ppl using due to price etc.
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post May 18 2017, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 17 2017, 11:05 PM)
offering unlimited with speed cap wont compromise anything. the promised throughput & speed are maintained as long as subs dont exceed their quota usage.

when subscribers exceed normal data usage, they are put into category with low priority respective to resources access. technically ur packets will go through shaping and remarking at the telco's pgw. only drawback is subs still accessing the resources, which will increase contention access and some subs may experiences 'traffic starvation'.

as long as the telco reminded the subs of what happening, imo it is still better than no access at all.

the normal subs who are not yet exceed their quota are not affected by the above, as they have higher priority through their preemption capability and vulnerability.

contrary to non-unlimited, they will just drop ur packets through policers. this have the advantage of freeing the capacity, but u wont have access unless topup.  smile.gif
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Normal quota plan and unlimited plan is different. Quota plan control all the while are in place. And they are all the while working well. There is nothing need to be discussed about.

Unlimited has speed capped and there is no hard and fast rule for quota that's the only one needs to be concern about.

DiGi unlimited plan has no written quota for their unlimited plans but recently they had informed customers on the new quota to their unlimited plans. So it shows that in he end all telcos are not ready for real unlimited plan and again they implement it just for more profit. In the end, it still prove that quota control is still the key to ensure the service quality.
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post Jun 8 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(judehow @ Jun 8 2017, 08:18 AM)
U mobile sucks outide Tropical  city mall
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tot this is 'normal'? tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2017, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Awakensoul @ Jun 7 2017, 06:24 PM)
Actually, it's good everyone ports out. Just curious why everyone says Umobile is so bad when i'm enjoying it. Tested all over Penang, and with the exception of tesco e-gate without coverage, everywhere is good.

Even penangites say Umobile not good, but i've been experiencing positives. Oh well it's good everyone ports out. At least less congestion for me.
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the definition of 'good' coverage or 'bad' coverage of a telco depends on the overall experience of 'majority' and evidences gathered in terms of statistic.

if based on statistic, a telco is good, then it means it is good since the definition of 'good' applies to many many.

if one finds a telco is good based on own personal experience, location etc those personal factor, good for u. but there is no point to even discuss about it since it is not for 'majority'.

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