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TSwgy589
post Mar 15 2007, 02:19 PM, updated 19y ago

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I wish to know your advice on my application to local U Medical Course. I have just taken my results and I get 4A's for PA, Chem, Maths and Bio(all papers are A's), Muet Band 6, Co-curricular around 5 over 10.

My problem is: which Uni should I choose(UM, UKM, USM, Unimas, UPM, UMS). Of course like many others, my 1st choice is UM and UKM. However, I'm afraid the competition into their Medicine is too stiff. Any advice?
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post Mar 15 2007, 02:24 PM

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4As, excellent result.

My suggestion
UM > UKM > USM > [UPM & UNIMAS & UMS no idea]

Have friends in UM and UKM (medic), was told by them these U good for medic.
Consider put pharmacy/dentistry as backup for 7th/8th choices too. U won't know how many 4.00 matriculation students applied for medic.

And apply NUS/NTU too.


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post Mar 15 2007, 04:37 PM

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Yes, for sure the competition is stiff. I had a friend who took STPM the year before you.

4.00, active in co-curicular activities, also with the MUET band 6. This guy represented school in many competitions as well.

applied for medicine, listing UM and UKM as his first and second choice respectively.

Result : Medicine, UMS.

imagine the dissapointment. but at least he got the course he wanted. sweat.gif
good luck.
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post Mar 15 2007, 05:48 PM

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the general rule is, the established med schools like UM is always tops in the pecking order, and the straight 5As, and maybe some outstnading 4As will put it as first choice.

The unis always look at the those who put them as first choice first, and select from there. Then, they will look at the others. So some people with less than perfect results, to maximise their chances, will select one of the 2nd tier school as their first choice.

If you arew confident that your results are tops, then take the chance and put UM.

Remember, there is a quota system (no matter what the government says to the negative), and non-bumis only have between 20-40% of the places, the majority will be taken by the 4.0 from matriculation (bumis). Some med schools take in very few non-bumis.

The sad fact is, even with 4As there is no guarantee of a place..........
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post Mar 15 2007, 06:12 PM

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Excuse me for asking. Is meritocracy practised here? Or are decisions still made based on racial lines...like in those days where we had the quota system?

Can anyone enlighten.
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post Mar 15 2007, 07:08 PM

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Congrats~~~
Hope my STPM will get a result like urs.you must have been worked very hard.
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post Mar 15 2007, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Teong @ Mar 15 2007, 06:12 PM)
Excuse me for asking. Is meritocracy practised here? Or are decisions still made based on racial lines...like in those days where we had the quota system?

Can anyone enlighten.
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basically its 50% for STPM n 50% for matrics.

so if ur from STPM, tough luck then. ur fighting for that 50% places among other races.

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post Mar 15 2007, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Mar 15 2007, 07:14 PM)
basically its 50% for STPM n 50% for matrics.
so if ur from STPM, tough luck then. ur fighting for that 50% places among other races.
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may i know where u got that info from? have been wondering for long but dont seem to be able to find the answer to that. rclxub.gif
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post Mar 15 2007, 11:04 PM

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Thanks for the much advice. I really appreciate it.

However, I still couldn't decide which Uni to put as 1st choice. And I don't know how to value my confidence.

Any more advice? Am I considered as the better 4 A's as I get A in all papers? rolleyes.gif


Added on March 15, 2007, 11:10 pmQUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Mar 15 2007, 07:14 PM)
basically its 50% for STPM n 50% for matrics.
so if ur from STPM, tough luck then. ur fighting for that 50% places among other races.






may i know where u got that info from? have been wondering for long but dont seem to be able to find the answer to that.






My opinion is that it's even lower than 50 % for non-Bumis for Medic . That's why I am so worried which Uni to get.

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[quote=wgy589,Mar 15 2007, 11:04 PM]
Thanks for the much advice. I really appreciate it.

However, I still couldn't decide which Uni to put as 1st choice. And I don't know how to value my confidence.

Any more advice? Am I considered as the better 4 A's as I get A in all papers? rolleyes.gif[QUOTE]


since 4A's are less common already, better of the 4A's will mean u get a 4.00 cgpa. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 15 2007, 11:17 PM

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just look at the composition in the uni now, generally between 20-40% non bumi lah..................so yes it is tough, and i wonder if it will be a repeat of past years, 4 flat candidates turned down............

on paper it is meritocracy, but in practice, there are so many matric candidates with 4 flat, its up to them to choose, and there is no transparancy in the selection process.............

by the way, do you know that the matric qualification is not recognised for uni entry overseas (eg spore, oz, us etc), unlike stpm............and the govt scholars earmarked overseas are all doing A'levels, IB, SAM etc........
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post Mar 15 2007, 11:17 PM

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it would be much more easier to enter if u got NS service cert smile.gif
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post Mar 15 2007, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(shinobikit @ Mar 15 2007, 11:17 PM)
it would be much more easier to enter if u got NS service cert smile.gif
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are you sure? ns should NOT be used for consideration at all, as it is NOT a voluntary, or compulsory activity, and is based purely on the luck of the draw, where only 20-25% of the students are selected.................

how can something based on luck and random draw be used to decide uni entry!!!
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post Mar 16 2007, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 15 2007, 11:21 PM)
are you sure? ns should NOT be used for consideration at all, as it is NOT a voluntary, or compulsory activity, and is based purely on the luck of the draw, where only 20-25% of the students are selected.................

how can something based on luck and random draw be used to decide uni entry!!!
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Unfortunately, they do take into account if you've participated in national service. The application form even has a question asking if you've participated in NS before.

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post Mar 16 2007, 01:01 AM

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[quote=Nostalgia,Mar 16 2007, 12:12 AM]Unfortunately, they do take into account if you've participated in national service. The application form even has a question asking if you've participated in NS before.
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Nothing can be done. However, I was not a NS trainee.


Added on March 16, 2007, 1:42 am[quote=SuN_RaE198,Mar 15 2007, 11:12 PM]
[quote=wgy589,Mar 15 2007, 11:04 PM]
Thanks for the much advice. I really appreciate it.

However, I still couldn't decide which Uni to put as 1st choice. And I don't know how to value my confidence.

Any more advice? Am I considered as the better 4 A's as I get A in all papers? rolleyes.gif[QUOTE]
since 4A's are less common already, better of the 4A's will mean u get a 4.00 cgpa. icon_rolleyes.gif
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It should be the case where 4 A's=CGPA 4.00. A does not include A-.

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QUOTE(wgy589 @ Mar 15 2007, 02:19 PM)
I wish to know your advice on my application to local U Medical Course. I have just taken my results and I get 4A's for PA, Chem, Maths and Bio(all papers are A's), Muet Band 6, Co-curricular around 5 over 10.

My problem is: which Uni should I choose(UM, UKM, USM, Unimas, UPM, UMS). Of course like many others, my 1st choice is UM and UKM. However, I'm afraid the competition into their Medicine is too stiff. Any advice?
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hey congrats 1st of all
i think your result is quite good, coz during my batch there are some people who only got 3As but still managed to enter medic (almost 2 years ago sweat.gif )
Since ur Muet is Band 6 i dont think it is a problem.
During my days i put my 1st - 4th choice as UM, 5th - UKM, 6th USM, 7th - Pharmacy UM flex.gif

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post Mar 18 2007, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(hyperx @ Mar 17 2007, 07:13 PM)
hey congrats 1st of all
i think your result is quite good, coz during my batch there are some people who only got 3As but still managed to enter medic (almost 2 years ago  sweat.gif )
Since ur Muet is Band 6 i dont think it is a problem.
During my days i put my 1st - 4th choice as UM, 5th - UKM, 6th USM, 7th - Pharmacy UM  flex.gif

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Ya, I'm a Chinese. However, I'm still in dilemma now of whether to put UM, UKM, or USM as my first choice. My ultimate goal is not to get into UNIMASarawak or UMSabah.

Just curious, what's your results and where're you now.
Doing Medic?

Regarding MUET, I thought Band 5 is good enough, with Band 6 not having any advantage?

Last Question, do you think I can get into UM Medic with only 5 over 10 marks in co-co?

Your advice will be much appreciated! icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(wgy589 @ Mar 18 2007, 05:59 PM)
Ya, I'm a Chinese. However, I'm still in dilemma now of whether to put UM, UKM, or USM as my first choice. My ultimate goal is not to get into UNIMASarawak or UMSabah.
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Its up to you. But faculty of medicine in UM is one of the best med school here. We also have few numbers of world renowned doctors that contribute a lot in medicine field.
But from my experiences, comparing with my friends from the other 2 uni, i think UM is the hardest one
And if youre really interested to do medicine in UM, i dont think theres any problems with your result. Like i told you, last time when i fill the upu form, i just put in 1st to 4th choice as medic - UM (i went to see my school counselor and thats what she told me)
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Just curious, what's your results and where're you now.
Doing Medic?
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i'm from matriculation. cgpa 4.0, my muet only band 5. And yes, in UM
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Regarding MUET, I thought Band 5 is good enough, with Band 6 not having any advantage?
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minimum requirement to do medicine here in UM for the last year's intake is Band 3
having a muet cert is just like a compulsory requirement to enter university, thats all.
It wont necessary help you to get the place in uni
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Last Question, do you think I can get into UM Medic with only 5 over 10 marks in co-co?

Your advice will be much appreciated! icon_rolleyes.gif
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my co-co is quite good, i'm x-head prefect and also hold some other posts during my matriculation and school days.
I dont know much how this co-co will effect ur entry to uni coz during my time co-co activities is not really that important.
I have people in my batch that dont do anything for their co-co rclxub.gif


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post Mar 18 2007, 10:53 PM

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according to the star today, only two candidates got muet band 6, one is a girl from sarawak, are you the other one?
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yayaya,i aso want to ask that.....
waw....band 6...so u also receive rm 1000??congrats!!

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