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 Refinancing your property for cash, and credit consolidation

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csbong87
post Sep 6 2017, 10:28 PM

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How to get property valuer to up the property value ? say other unit is worth 320k, your unit is renovated so you opt for 380k, able to force the property valuer to put 400k ? so able to refinance at 400k ? subject is paid off, 13 yo property. New to this not understand.

say if able to cash out 400k. means that you have to serve the new loan @ 2k per month.
and if you take cash out 400k to downpayment for 600k property and take another loan 200k @ 1k per month. Meaning total loan serve is at 3k per month ?


if the cash out property @ 400k with new loan @ 2k per month, but monthly rental is only around 1.5k per month i think not worth it ? I think i'm stupid right now. blur.
csbong87
post Sep 6 2017, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Sep 6 2017, 10:36 PM)
Refinance / loan top up can be used for property full paid off, or still with loan. If the property still have existing loan, then top up with the same bank lo. If ur property is free of encumbrances, then you can select the one with the better rate.

On refinancing, i dun think you can refinance 100%. Most probably is 9
80 or 90%.. subject to banks guideline.

If the valuer gave a rm 400k value, say 80%, you can get 320k only.
On top of that, a loan top up have a difference kind of DSR calculation. Albeit the loan can be stretch up to 30 years or so, the DSR calculation is based on 10 years.

So you need to have very strong income.. if not, will be hard.

For more detail info, probably listen directly from a mortgage banker that is working in a bank, not outsourced one becuz outsource banker dont do refinancing / loan top up.
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Yes, i always heard those investors have very strong monthly income..as always is always about cold hard cash in property is a hustling arena with sweat tears blood emotions.. thumbsup.gif
csbong87
post Sep 7 2017, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 7 2017, 08:28 AM)
Valuation is subject to a few factors such as the renovation and material used.

At the same time looking at the sales price around the location or the same condo.
By cashing out the extra money, it depends on your purpose of the cash out, is it for renovation, investment, debt consolidation or other purposes?

Using that money and paying the interest rate of the housing loan, are you able to generate a higher return elsewhere with the bank's money although you're paying a higher installment.

If you don't refinance the property then you're sitting on the cash in paper value of your property until you sell it off to monetize it. If you intend to keep the property and use the money for other opportunities, then refinancing is a smart move.
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Renifancing is also subject to applicant's income right ?

Say income is 5 k

bank lending Subject to 1/3 salary which is 1.7k

Want to refinace 600k @ 3k per month

above situation also would be reject by bank right ? but what if we let the banks know that both the current refinanced property and future investment property or for rental income generating assets ?
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post Sep 7 2017, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 7 2017, 09:04 AM)
This is subject to your tier income, some banks take 10 years, AIA take up to 35 years calculation.

And no, they won't look into the future of the property or rental, bank do not want to hold your asset if you default, they want their interest and money back as soon as possible to give it to the next potential borrower who can pay their interest.
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Refinancing only get up to 10 years ? confused.gif
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post Sep 8 2017, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 8 2017, 07:27 AM)
When you sell the property, the new bank will pay off the full amount outstanding with your current bank.
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Based on the statement:

"we're having 2 different loan. 300k & 100k loan now.." Total loan value is 400k, meaning that if take 35y installament is around 2k/month, so the applicant's income if based on 1/3 calculation requirement from bank should be aroudn 6k inorder to get the loan ? notworthy.gif
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post Sep 8 2017, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 8 2017, 09:04 AM)
As mentioned, different FI will have different calculation on the DSR, the assumption of 1/3 is not usable.
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Do you have samples of different FI and its calculation on DSR ? say:

A: Salary worker (Income 6k)
B: Salary worker (Income 3K + Passive Income 2.5K)

How ?
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post Sep 8 2017, 09:53 AM

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DSR = (Total Commitment ÷ Nett Income) × 100

Passive incomes from properties rental can be submitted to bank and be counted as Nett Income ? But TA normally is 2 years only, what if after 2 years Tenant no renew, then for 6 months no potential Tenant thus no income for that few months ?

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