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IReallyNeed Answers
post May 4 2017, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ May 4 2017, 02:18 PM)
Yes, it does stiffen the chassis a lot. I think the bad part is on uneven road (left and right), you can sometimes feel the car skipping something.

For the driver, it does feel more comfy when the bodyroll is reduced but yes, the drive feels a little heavier. I haven't gotten any feedback from rear passenger though.

If your car understeers, this would be a good remedy. What I can say is, for some cars this is quite necessary, for others perhaps you can live without it.

Conclusion: ARB is effective while FSB is ineffective.
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Thanks for the input ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

But when you say ineffective, does it mean no use at all?

Or the improvement/ effect is marginal?

I'm driving a Mazda3 BL.

Taking fast corner sometime and would like just a little bit more stability
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post May 4 2017, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ May 4 2017, 02:41 PM)
Thanks for the input ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

But when you say ineffective, does it mean no use at all?

Or the improvement/ effect is marginal?

I'm driving a Mazda3 BL.

Taking fast corner sometime and would like just a little bit more stability
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Well, I'll say difference is marginal, maybe 5-10% improvement only for FSB.

For me, it helps in the carpark when there are many sharp turns.

As for ARB, it helps significantly on the highway and junctions, can definitely feel the difference.

Actually, I never heard of people complaining about Mazda's handling before lol
IReallyNeed Answers
post May 4 2017, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ May 4 2017, 03:34 PM)
Well, I'll say difference is marginal, maybe 5-10% improvement only for FSB.

For me, it helps in the carpark when there are many sharp turns.

As for ARB, it helps significantly on the highway and junctions, can definitely feel the difference.

Actually, I never heard of people complaining about Mazda's handling before lol
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Nolar, not complaining,

It's good as it is, just tot abit more stability would make for a better ride.

Will consider your input๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ Very helpful
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post May 4 2017, 04:05 PM

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front struts bar is significant for autocrossing. for daily normal drive, not much difference.
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post May 4 2017, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ May 4 2017, 03:50 PM)
Nolar, not complaining,

It's good as it is, just tot abit more stability would make for a better ride.

Will consider your input๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ Very helpful
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No problem, hope you can try it out though and let us know your experience hehe
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post May 4 2017, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ May 3 2017, 03:52 PM)
Finally got my FSB and ARB installed to Myvi. It gives me peace of mind now coz I'm too used to driving Proton's with their respectable handling.

Bodyroll significantly reduced and my heart does not jump when taking corners at a slightly faster than normal speed. Before this, can feel the car want to fly off or move to another lane already, now it does not sway as much. This should have been a stock item for Myvi. I would recommend Myvi owners to get this.
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Does it help in reduction of the "cross-wind feel" when big lorry/bus passing-by in highway drive? Feel my polo sedan suspension is overly soft and this effect is quite obvious, was planning to change 3rd party OEM absorber or spend money adding the rear anti roll-bar
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post May 4 2017, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 4 2017, 09:10 PM)
Does it help in reduction of the "cross-wind feel" when big lorry/bus passing-by in highway drive? Feel my polo sedan suspension is overly soft and this effect is quite obvious, was planning to change 3rd party OEM absorber or spend money adding the rear anti roll-bar
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Yeah, I know what you mean but I have yet to experience it with these bars. But I doubt it will help in reducing this wind effect unless your car is heavier and perhaps lower.

Anyway, I'll still try to monitor if there is any difference on my car since Myvi is pretty light, weighs slightly less than a tonne I believe.
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post May 5 2017, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 4 2017, 09:10 PM)
Does it help in reduction of the "cross-wind feel" when big lorry/bus passing-by in highway drive? Feel my polo sedan suspension is overly soft and this effect is quite obvious, was planning to change 3rd party OEM absorber or spend money adding the rear anti roll-bar
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installed arb & fsb in my ride, they definitely help in reduction of the "cross-wind feel" when big lorry/bus passing-by in highway drive, but i m not sure which one is helping, just rough guess that fsb help in reduction of the "cross-wind feel".
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post May 5 2017, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 4 2017, 09:10 PM)
Does it help in reduction of the "cross-wind feel" when big lorry/bus passing-by in highway drive? Feel my polo sedan suspension is overly soft and this effect is quite obvious, was planning to change 3rd party OEM absorber or spend money adding the rear anti roll-bar
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Get stiffer, lowered suspension better.
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post May 17 2017, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Apr 16 2017, 11:03 PM)
does it make ur ride uncomfortable? how is the cornering during rainy day compared to before u installed it?
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For my case, the rear arb make ride more harsh, albeit it improves stability (makes your car feel planted during highspeed drive).
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post May 17 2017, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 5 2017, 02:53 PM)
Get stiffer, lowered suspension better.
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Agreed,

Unfortunately for factors like price and later .. comfort has to be considered..
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post May 19 2017, 09:20 AM

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Hi, anyone install Stage 2 on Almera or any other car model that can share some experience?
TCEAS told me that it will be ground clearance issue after installation...
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post May 20 2017, 04:01 PM

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Installed a hatchback bar since I drive a hatchback. For all hatchbacks this is the weakest part of the car (it's a big hole duh. That made a big difference to stability in every situation.

ARB connects the right and left wheel. A thicker ARB will keep your car flat during corners and reduce bodyroll. But stiff suspensions (springs, dampers, ARBs, tires, bushings etc) are bad for bad roads like ours, especially corners.

As for tower bars, depends how far your towers are from any other cross bar. If they're right next to the firewall, not much difference. But strut towers are usually made quite strong (you go knock yours and see) anyway.

Everything got pros and con. First thing you should do is go and look at your own chassis. See what's weak or thin and figure out how to rectify.
UR has done alot of the homework for you, but each person also has their own preference.
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post May 20 2017, 06:42 PM

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In all honesty no one has the blue print to their car and no one will know how much of a greater impact UR will bring towards the butt dyno. Generally UR bars stiffens your car chassis,yes your car body does flex to accommodate a bit of vibration dampening as well as reduction in load towards your bushing. but very minimal. By stiffening your car, ofcourse you feel more planted and feel more confident towards cornering, but you are putting additional stress into other components. E.g Bushing and Tyres.

No matter how stiff your car can be, there will still be a limit. So you need to balance between handling, comfort and practicality. I've seen my car club installed full fledge UR bars. But after test driving it, I just feel the additional money can be used to upgrade the suspension. Because when you stack on more bars, the effects will gradually be minimal. What you need is a specialist which can really understand or familiar with setting UR on most car. A few bars will be sufficient. Now need to be Ultra bars. I only install strut and ARB. Then i leave the rest to VSA/ESP to manage.
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post Jun 21 2017, 09:00 AM

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Any effect changing alza default ARB 16mm to UR ARB 19mm? Currently not so stable when running > 110kmh
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post Jun 21 2017, 12:02 PM

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Well, installed in my Vios 2013 which is few years back.
removed due to blocking the battery. When battery "Kong"......need to remove it for battery change. very "mafan".

Change better Tyre, bigger rim, lower with better suspension will do. DIRECTLY got feel. LOL!
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post Oct 9 2017, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(cw_diong @ Apr 16 2017, 11:01 PM)
i have install stage on my vios, and the feeling is excellent.

pro : car handling are better, and can corner at higher speed (tire need to be good as well)

cons : if you met accident, other side will get damage as well.  vehicle getting heavy a bit (2 metal bar installed)
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which burs did u install and what tyre u r using?
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post Nov 3 2017, 10:23 AM

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Hi all..
I have read all the comments and replies..

Just wondering..
I have installed stage 1 from Ultra Racing.
But I'm not sure whether to move forward to stage 2.
Which they recommend me to put on Front & Rear lower 4 point bar..

Does it necessary?

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post Nov 3 2017, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(aMing0 Tan @ Nov 3 2017, 10:23 AM)
Hi all..
I have read all the comments and replies..

Just wondering..
I have installed stage 1 from Ultra Racing.
But I'm not sure whether to move forward to stage 2.
Which they recommend me to put on Front & Rear lower 4 point bar..

Does it necessary?
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1st question - do you need it?
2nd question - why do u need it?
3rd question - do u really need it?

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post Dec 27 2017, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(aMing0 Tan @ Nov 3 2017, 10:23 AM)
Hi all..
I have read all the comments and replies..

Just wondering..
I have installed stage 1 from Ultra Racing.
But I'm not sure whether to move forward to stage 2.
Which they recommend me to put on Front & Rear lower 4 point bar..

Does it necessary?
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If u think you are heavy user, u could

here is a product recommendation by them

http://ultraracing.my/ecatalog/index.php/p...recommendation/

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