FFK BY SYAHMI a.ka cipancipon 012-3111254(nickname at LYN) TWICE

This fellow send a pm to me at 12.03.2007 10.27pm ask me the best price and ask my contact number....after that we make appointment at 13.03.2007 4pm at kota raya no.1 cafe and he said 13.03.2007 he will hav a meeting at 11.00am will call me after meeting...when 13.03.2007...he called me around 12pm if i'm not mistaken...and tell me wanna c.o.d at 2pm but i hav class at tat time...so i delay it to after 4pm...he said ok...!!! when 3pm sumthing he sms me said tat he hav event at his office ...den i said better b4 6pm and he said he will try his best...so once after class i wait him start from 4pm and around 6pm sumthing i called him...he didn't answer my call after i called him several times...after that he called me and said cannot come due to traffic jam...and send me a sms at 13.03.2007 06.34pm "Ok.Tomorrow 4pm.I'll buy u drink.ok." after that i request add RM20 for transport fee bcoz he ffk...bcoz i park my car at kota raya area (i will take lrt normally but he promise wanna dealing around 4pm so i bring my car to prevent any delay bcoz kota raya at nite quite COMPLICATED)...n parking at kota raya not cheap!!!!!!!!!! I waited him for 2 hours ++...and go back home with ntg...

after 7.30pm sumthing i reached home...i called him bcoz he didn't reply my msg...he promise tomorrow (14.03.2007) 4pm...and willing to add extra RM20!!But i doubt about it and ask him double confirm at 12pm(14.03.2007)

when today 14.03.2007 he didn't call me at all and i sms him around 3pm sumthing...he send sms to me at 14.03.2007 03.31pm "Ivan..Can i bank in 1st coz right now i'm going back to muar. My grandmother just past away.Give me ur acc no.Deal on Friday...Regards". In my mind now is..NOT AGAIN??? den i send my acc number to him and send condolences to his family at 14.03.2007 3.39pm...but i found tat he off the phone oledi....and i try to called him...keep on call him until 14.03.2007 4.19pm...i was d*mn angry and send him a sms at 14.03.2007 04.19p, " Off hp? Wat a big conman!!! Wtf, just f*ck off if dun hav money, dun fooling around! Let the moderator judge u!!! Wtf" den he called me at 14.03.2007 4.37pm and f*** me kao kao...the thing tat make i angry is he "bangkit isu perkauman".....he said " u org cina semua sial...c*bai...apa kutuk2...and keep on scold rude words..." i just wanna earn a little bit pocket money...but met this kind of buyer..."-_-

and den tat phone is at my partner there...and i oledi take the fon and full packages from her twice which is 13.03.2007 and 14.03.2007 and end up i didn't sold the phone bcoz syhami ffk me twice sumore wanna f*** ***** cina semua sial and many many many....

haih better becareful next time, i still wait my buyer to pay me the 1k balance.. but he say no $$ what to do i have to wait(I've give him what i sell).. if the matter goes worse i will report him and find him at his working place (he is a bank staff.. my sis working bank too its easy to track him) and make him shame

But lucky my buyer not a rude malay not all malay bad de.. hopefully my buyer wont run away my rm1k lah

Cheers and be happy.. my situation far more worse then yours le bro..

aiyaaa.... malay people like this la make us malay so shame... ******* like him should go to hell

for whatever reasons, we still can accept, but no need to be rude and racist.. bodo punya orang..

you wrote :



i dunno what others will think
but if i am the buyer, although i "unintentionally" fail to meet you up for two times
but i do not deserve to get such sms/feedback from you

buyer could be having his own reason for postponing the deal
buyer could also be FFk (like what u said)

i dunno which one
only the real buyer, which is cipancipon have the answer.

you shouldnt have "scold" him via sms
you are ruining your own deal
cool down, and re-think

you said he off his phone after u sent him your acc no. (at 3.39pm)
then u try to call back, but u found tat he has switch off his phone
u lose contact wif him, you feel angry, and u scolded him via sms

why not u think this way, he might probably "not available" for that moment
afterall, from ur statement, u said he called u back (at 4.37pm)
i am sure he is not purposely avoiding you by switching off his phone

i dunno, i could be wrong.
cipancipon should have come here to clear his name
try PM him

add on :

cipancipon on the other hand, has his fault, too, for being rude by writing those racism stuff.

i deal with many malay b4...but mostly vy nice...this 1 i really dunno wat happen to him...

panasonic88 : thanks for ur advice....i will change it...but i really really really really d*mn angry....sumore kena hujan kao kao while on the way after take back the fon to my partner...luckily it is AFTER take the fon to my partner....really really HAK ZAI..anyone at kota raya today may noe there is a heavy rain today....if ffk once i can cool down...but twice....make me really angry....anyway...i will said sry if i being rudeness too...just need sum extra pocket money...dun like the feeling CON by ppl...

*Edited...typo

This post has been edited by vC_cRe@tioN: Mar 14 2007, 10:20 PM

I agree with Panasonic88. Just because you can't get through to his phone does not mean he's trying to con you. And by accusing him like that, you opened the door for him to be uncivilised towards you. But I'm not saying that excuses him of his behaviour.

p/s The reason you PMed me is..?

altie, he PM me, too

i told him to write at the Dispute Corner, rather than mass sending PMs to fellow mods & staffs.

IMHO,
well, the first FFK maybe because there is not time to meet, guess that's cipancipon fault...
and if the second FFK is really because his/her grandmother passed away,
I guess that is pretty reasonable rite?
after all, if he is with his family to pray for his/her grandmother, sure he dunwan the phone to ring rite?
and maybe after praying all done, then he receive ur msg, all his emotion erupted and being sent back to you lo...

OR maybe i am wrong...
Just wanna share my opinion about this matter..

I guess this is only back to cipancipon to explain...

apalah, TS, u started the flame.. dont u realise?
ffk ffk lah, whats the big deal?
juz because of several minutes he didnt reply then u curse the hell out of him? is that rational thing to do? think again, he said he is going back muar, chances that he is on highway without telco reception is posibble n u should b patient
btw, u r lucky coz he will pay u the rm20
if im the buyer, i wont give a damn bout the rm20 coz u choose to park/drive there..
bottom line is, u start to impatient, start the flame, close the deal
n u bear the consequences

btw, im chinese if u want to know

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Mar 15 2007, 05:21 PM

FFK is still normal to me.
But the buyer seems really uneducated at all which steps into religious thingy.
Scolding chinese instead of the seller , how retarted the buyer IS.

This post has been edited by Andy0625: Mar 15 2007, 05:29 PM

bro...i nvr curse him...refer to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse
CURSE..or u can refer to tarc lecturer??how serious u noe.. when u met this situation den u will noe...
Besides tat, ffk TWICE u noe??? ..anyway i oledi cancel the deal with him...just a phone only...i earn him how much?? 1K??? have to fooling by him like tat??? wasting time...plus i reserved the fon to him n reject a few offers...

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Added on March 15, 2007, 5:49 pmbro...i willing to said sry if i m being rudeness too but when involve in religious thingy..i really can't stand with it...even i scold by him cina sial like tat...i still patience and told with him "sabar..kawan...and ask him y wanna said cina sial..etc"

hopefully the cipancipon will come here to explain...wat a 30 years old man

This post has been edited by vC_cRe@tioN: Mar 15 2007, 06:15 PM

maybe bro imperialrealcs mean 'swear' not 'curse'..huehuehue..
anyhow..maybe mr cipancipun is sad for wat had happned to his famly.if i were him oso sad if my granpa/granma passed away..
when he sad then on a hp n read ur msg dat u sent to him maybe he's getting angry for wat u said.dats y he swear to u n mention bout 'pkauman'
emtional mabe coz of his granma passed away..
in my oppinion ony k bro..peace!

maybe...but i hav send my condolences to his family as well as my acc num too...but after i send the msg..i found tat it was pending...bro...it is less than 10 minutes time after i receive the msg from him...maybe he can reach the highway which dun hav signal of network in less than 10 minutes times? anyway...for me from pandan indah to tarc the fastest is 6 minutes...if plus the traffic light....it is more than 15 minutes....

i oledi fed up with wat he had did....plus i dealing with another forumer now...just waiting him come here to explain....malay and chinese and indian oso can be fren...all races are MALAYSIAN...y must seperate it to u org cina....u org melayu...u org india..????????

Cool down and wait his answer bah.. angry or sad also no use, maybe he say that couse someone of his family past away and he's really sad..

Better dont talk bout 'pkauman' .. this is very sensitive issue le..

"We Malaysian helping each others no matter who and what you are"

Cheers! I Love Peace!

I'm as Malay also feel shame on him .. .. Please don't be racist and curse another races just because one person fault, just curse with the person name just ok, no need to involve the races .. ...

We Malay, Chinese, and Indian live in one country , and should live happily ..

dats gud..maybe u just nid to be patient bro.its a 'lumrah' in business to meet dat kind of ppl.
take it as a lesson ok bro..i got my own prob now..

Good 1!

bro..i really learn a lesson...thanks...

nice br0
i think this fella(cipancipon) cant think as mature person

his relative passed-away i know its hard, but no need to racists like this
ppl like this also exist in LYn

what a shame

anyway...hp sold to another forumer....nice buyer....still waiting cipancipon to explain....will close this thread by this week if the cipancipon haven cum to explain...thanks